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    Posted: February 22 2006 at 2:14pm
bird flu found in australia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did you mean Austria in Europe??????

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What's your source? Nothing mentioned at what I consider the most thorough BF news site:

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Bird+Flu

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It's 9.25am, 23 Feb, Thursday - here in Melbourne / Australia...

Satomick, Having just perused the newspapers.. the only article on BF is attached.   Do you have a different source or link???

Avian flu likely in Australia: Scientist

Deadly avian flu is "highly likely" to have already reached Australia, a top scientist says.

Queensland-based medicinal chemist Professor Mark von Itzstein, who Avian flu likely in Australia: scientist has played a key role in efforts to develop a vaccine for the deadly H5N1 strain, said birds migrating from Indonesia could have brought the virus to northern Australia.

"The fact is Indonesia has now reported cases of bird flu ... and this is about the time of year the birds start to migrate," said Professor von Itzstein, the director of the Institute for Glycomics at Griffith University's Gold Coast campus.

Just because there have been no reported cases of the flu in Australia doesn't mean it isn't present, he said.

Hello, Baghdad Bob has moved to Australia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This link..

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Avian-flu-likely-in-A ustralia-scientist/2006/02/22/1140563844673.html



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i thank this is the one  , and it said that they had found two chicken with the bird flu. i am  new with this email  and i do not know how how to cut and past or i would have sent it.  the news is on a bbc site.
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The chickens thing is Austria not Australia.
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"many steps", is defined as two mutations, according to the experts.

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THERE IS NO BF IN AUSTRALIA

In the ABC article ---- Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service spokesman Carson Creagh says there has been no sign of H5N1 in northern Australia.

So, lets wait until the odd dead swan or migrating bird surfaces and shows a positive H5N1 test before we jump to conclusions.

Hey, if I hear my home country has anything remotely resembling BF or H2H or a Government cover-up --- I'll tell my forum partners first...

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200602/s1576522.htm



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Avian flu 'to come in from PNG'

From: AAP
By Lloyd Jones in Port Moresby

February 23, 2006
 

ONCE the deadly avian flu reached Papua New Guinea it would quickly spread to its near neighbour Australia along migratory bird flyways, a World Health Organisation (WHO) expert has warned.

Disease specialist Dr Luo Dapeng is assisting PNG health, quarantine and agriculture authorities prepare a contingency plan for the arrival of the H5N1 strain of the virus.

This month more than a dozen countries reported their first outbreaks of the deadly strain which has killed more than 90 people worldwide and prompted mass cullings of poultry.

Dr Luo believes it is inevitable avian flu will reach PNG if it is not already in the country and that it will quickly spread south to Australia with migratory birds crossing the Torres Strait.

"If something happens here, I think Australia cannot escape. I think Australia will have to help," Dr Luo told AAP in Port Moresby.

"What Australia could do is help Papua New Guinea set up a good surveillance system and get a preliminary diagnosis system in place so they can take action quickly.

"That's the way to protect people both in Papua New Guinea and in Australia."

Queensland-based medicinal chemist Professor Mark von Itzstein warned this week that bird flu was highly likely to have reached northern Australia already with birds migrating from Indonesia.

Dr Luo said that ensuring good preparedness in PNG for an outbreak was extremely important to delay the spread of the virus.

The same applied if the worst-case scenario happened and the virus evolved into a human-to-human form sparking a deadly pandemic, he said.

PNG authorities also needed to launch a public awareness campaign to ensure remote villagers understood the dangers of avian flu and the need to cull their chickens if there was an outbreak.

Villagers might be reluctant to cull an important protein source so authorities might have to pay compensation for culled birds.

The PNG Government has set up a co-ordinating committee to develop a bird flu outbreak and human pandemic response strategy based on a WHO model.

Dr Luo said migratory birds flying from Central Asia via Indonesia or from China via the Philippines were the most likely birds to carry the virus into PNG but fighting cocks smuggled by Asian workers into PNG's logging camps also posed a threat.

PNG's Western Province and the Sepik River region with their vast wetlands populated by migratory waterbirds and waders were the high risk areas, he said.

While backyard chickens were not as numerous in PNG as in Asian countries, the isolation of many villages posed a public health awareness problem.

"In this country, communications are not as good as in other Asian countries where they have television and see pictures every day and know how harmful this avian flu is for the people.

"We have to do health awareness campaigns in the remote villages so they can report if their poultry have died."

Another big problem was PNG's underfunded and overburdened health system, already struggling to cope with an HIV/AIDS crisis, Dr Luo said.

PNG's quarantine inspection service tests chickens and ducks in Western Province for the virus but blood samples have to be sent to Australia for analysis.

Dr Luo said preliminary diagnosis labs needed to be set up in PNG quickly to ensure a fast response to contain any outbreak by culling poultry in areas where infections occurred.

If a human pandemic occurred, PNG would need donor assistance to pay for Tamiflu drugs to protect people against the virus, he said.

Australian Deputy High Commissioner to PNG Ann Harrap said the PNG Government had yet to ask the Australian Government or other donors for funding to help prepare for the avian flu threat.

"Were they to do so we would obviously consider it in the context of other priorities and demonstrated performance in that area."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18247398-29277,00.html

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well at least they're thinking ahead of time, I wonder how much good it will do in the long run if it shows up in Australia. 

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With as quickly as this thing is moving across the earth, I would say in the next week it will be found.  I think the article up there where the guy says it's already likely in Autrailia is probably right on, or a few days ahead of himself.  He's the specialist and he knows - he doesn't need a dead swan for proof.  That will come....

We're all in this together - there is no way this is going to miss any part of the world.  where birds & pigs (and any other animal it seems) exist, so will this flu.  At least those who are willing to listen have had a little time to prep. 

Please do keep us posted in Austrailia - seems the rest of the world (India, Africa, Asia) not doing too great and we aren't getting the real story. 

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That one nearly caught me out. It came up on Newsnow. The source of
the report was an Australian news service and read like this:

(Text Bold)BF found in chickens in (Text Greyed Out)Australia.......

When you went to site it was clearly in Austria...

Never mind satomic easily done.....

The SUN newspaper (UK trash news) would have reported:

'Hot Chick gets Sick Down Under!!! What a Corker!'

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