Bird Flu Terrorism???

Welcome Zenn! Good question.  Lets hope THAT dosen't happen!  

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Welcome Zenn....good point I guess that is something we have all thought about,but tucked away into the reeses of our minds..we are really more worried about trying to keep our loved ones alive..even if terrorists don,t start the pandemic...birds might,humans might...but still an excellent point...keep a posting away...have you prepped as of yet..

I've been thru all the same scenarios as everyone else. It helps with the
insomnia. I.e. it keeps me awake.

On balance though I think it is too chaotic to be warfare, unless fear is the
ammo. not the actual flu and it will be followed up by some other shocker to
finish us off.

  

i BELIEVE  THIS FLU WILL HIT Hardest in the Arab world and they would not want to stir the pot.  Terrorist may want to but the flu would be unstable and hard to target to just the American and by the time it i easy transmittable the poorer Arab countries would already be entrenched in the virus 

. I believe there may be some lose cannons

willing to risk their lives, 

 actually when I think of it yes they will try to stir the pot and yes they will target airports 

not good

 

At this time H5N1 would not be an effective weapon. It does not transmit from H2H very easy right now.

When things change and it becomes easily transmittable from H2H then I think we will see some groups using it as a weapon.

You would probably see it in war zones first when terrorists will get infected on purpose and then surrender to Army troops thus infecting them.

Also some will get infected and board international flights before showing any symptoms and infect people on board the flight and at any airport they stop at.

Opps, I meant, no terrorist weapon of much concern...

What would be the point?  Bird Flu will be in the Americas within a month or so anyway.  Our birds will have it, and it will cause financial chaos with our poultry industry.  If the virus mutates to H2H we will have a problem... along with the rest of the world.

I agree, that BF, although not yet H2H, will house a huge prob. in the US.  (Sooner, rather than later I'm afraid.)

I live very near a small town where the local turkey plant is the #1 employeer of a city of 2000+ people!  Talk about major ramifications!!!

My family is ready...the majority in my area are not.

I sit, I wait...I PRAY!!!

God help us all...
Peggy in MN

I deleted my comments out of  this because once I posted it, I was afraid to give any ideas to the terrorists.  Most likely dumb. but, just in case.

Th ere are  dogs sniffing out  birdfeathers and stuff.   But this does not stop a terrorist of going on a plan after being exposed to the virus.

Still I think the virus is too unstable to be used as a weapon  becauce they know the path back to their countries and it is a pandoras box

They have more to fear than us because they have a more fragile

infracture  .   We would have a better chance of surviving this virus.

 

 

 

 

Well osama did say last month, he wasn't finished.

outsidethecamp
I thought that BF tourism was a great idea even if by mistake!!!

My hope is that if Bin Laden has survived, bombings, special
forces,earthquakes in Parkistan, etc. at least the BF will get him!!!!!
Now that's terrorism!

there are some thoughts on this topic from an old thread of the same topic if ya dig for it on the forum. try using search. may shed some light from previous discussions.

ah....try this thread with 47 post http://www.superflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1036&KW= terrorist

personally I would enjoy shoving an infested chicken up Osama and his mommas A$$. We could do the same thing to them. We can overnight an infected party platter to them or something. I'm sure they are hungry after a long night of planting heavy bombs and goat tipping.

 

maybe we can airlift some infected beard trimmers to the region?

Actually we've already seen terrorists use disease as a weapon - everybody remembers the ANTHRAX letters, right?  Anthrax is not commonly transmitted human-to-human, so it makes a great bio-weapon, as in, only those initially exposed are at risk.

In this context, the current version of the BF virus would make a good candidate for a bio weapon, since it doesn't (yet) exhibit sustained h2h transmission.  However, I think it would be much harder to "aerosolize" a virus - typically flu virii live inside living cells, and their viability outside those cells is pretty limited and hard to sustain without "just right" conditions.  So there would be some pretty substantial technical hurdles, and I don't think many terrorist groups have that kind of technological prowess.  They did apparently get ahold of "weaponized" anthrax, but there are only 3 places in the world where that is produced, so it was likely stolen.  Nobody (that we know of) has any "weaponized" BF so they would have to cook it up themselves.

Of course if they got a few infected birds smuggled into Arkansas, they could really decimate the US poultry industry.

All excellent ideas TJ108.

Teagan

'You stated Your 'terrorist' could just as well use anything to cause damage. But why would they? when they too could be infected

Terrorists use many means to cause damage. If you think for one instance that they would not infect themselves to cause many deaths and a huge economic impact then I fear you don't understand terrorism.

If they have a choice of blowing themselves up and killing 5- 20 people if they are lucky or infecting themselves with an infectious disease and killing thousands I am sure they would choose the spreading of the disease. '

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I know more about 'terrorism; than i suspedct you do. I know that terrorism is the new 'communism', something used by the National Security state to strike fear into the citizenary. have you eveer read 1984? The terrorists you are referring to a bogeymen, theya re not the people who link an act of violence to a political agenda.

Most people are conditioned to think of'terrorists' as being muslims. It doesnt help that peoples ideas of terrorists are gained from watching Hollywood films. In reality, most 'terrorist; acts take place in situ,not in foreign countries and are designed to remove foreign occupiers.

Incidentyally m everone favourite 'terrorist', Bin Laden, has denied being coinnected to 911...publically in a pakistani newspaper interview. The subsequent videos have been proven bogus.

So,am i worried about 'terrorists and bird flu? No, not one bit. I am worrie about the factory farming mentality, which in Vietnam is already gearing up to take advantage of this crisis.