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    Posted: December 08 2021 at 9:54am

Edited to add: It's not in this article, but there is a lot of data out there about how levels in wastewater preceded an increase in cases and hospital admissions. I'm trying to find a 3 chart comparison I saw earlier on my phone but am not having any luck. If I find it I'll add it. 


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/12/07/nation/weekly-averages-covid-19-detected-boston-wastewater-reach-highest-levels-yet/

As hospital beds in Massachusetts fill up, experts are trying to predict how bad the winter surge could be, and the state's wastewater could hold the key.

The Boston-area wastewater tracker is showing the highest level of the virus that has been seen so far this year, about as high as last winter's spike reached.

"Right now, we are seeing another spike," said Mariana Matus, the CEO and founder of Biobot Analytics.

 Biodot's wastewater COVID data from Dec. 6, 2021.

Biobot, a Cambridge-based company, has been tracking the viral concentration of COVID-19 in the state's wastewater since March 2020. Matus said researchers started to notice a new uptick starting in late October of this year.

"We don't know yet if this spike could be driven by Thanksgiving activities or if it could be contribution from the new omicron variant," Matus said.

Her team is doing sequencing to try and find out the source, but medical experts said there already takeaways.

"What it tells me is that COVID is out there, but it may be asymptomatic in patients that have been vaccinated," Dr. Ali Raja said.

Raja said it supports the case to continue to wear masks in public indoor settings and for getting the booster, especially as hospital beds start to fill up across the state.

"Our hospital is packed. I just walked down the hall to the ER and we are stuffed to the gills of really sick patients," Raja said.

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Found it... 

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So if they are seeing levels of the virus in wastewater almost similar to last winter which was prior to the majority of people getting the vaxx in Boston (Massachusetts) and Massachusetts currently has a 70% vaxx rate that would indicate those "rare" vaxx breakthrough cases are not rare in any shape or fashion. In fact it would indicate it's extremely common.


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That's an incredible spike. I wonder if it is Omicron? Maybe it is more widespread than first thought. Afterall, if they weren't testing specifically for it, they wouldn't know it's there. I also wonder if the spike is indicating it has a long incubation period?

Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

That's an incredible spike. I wonder if it is Omicron? Maybe it is more widespread than first thought. Afterall, if they weren't testing specifically for it, they wouldn't know it's there. I also wonder if the spike is indicating it has a long incubation period?

If it were Omnicron and those wastewater virus levels as well as the virus levels in the community are basically the same as last year, then it would mean the CDC utterly failed to detect a new variant that has become the dominant strain right under it's very nose.

Of course failure isn't new to the CDC ie May 13 2021 "if you'r vaccinated you don't have to wear a mask or social distance" fast forward July 27th 2021 " the vaxxed can and do get covid and spread it. Put your masks back on and resume social distancing"

Wonder how many cases of covid and lives were lost on that bit of bad advice by the CDC? It certainly lead to and significantly contributed to the exponential spread of the Delta variant in the US for 2.5 months by 100 million vaxxed due to the CDC's bad advice. 

Somehow the MSM just glossed right on by and ignored the above information. Bad information not conforming to the the official narrative no doubt, so it doesn't exist.

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https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/11/23/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-surge-6917-last-week-infection-counts-spiking-before-thanksgiving/

Massachusetts coronavirus breakthrough cases surge, hitting 6,917 in approach to Thanksgiving

reakthrough cases in Massachusetts have been making up about 35% to 40% of the state’s overall cases in recent months amid the more highly contagious delta variant.

Breakthrough hospitalizations have been accounting for 30% to 35% of current COVID-19 hospitalizations. 

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Originally posted by ksc ksc wrote:

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/11/23/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-surge-6917-last-week-infection-counts-spiking-before-thanksgiving/

Massachusetts coronavirus breakthrough cases surge, hitting 6,917 in approach to Thanksgiving

reakthrough cases in Massachusetts have been making up about 35% to 40% of the state’s overall cases in recent months amid the more highly contagious delta variant.

 Breakthrough hospitalizations have been accounting for 30% to 35% of current COVID-19 hospitalizations. 

I wonder what the percentages of non hospitalized vaxxed covid cases are? Remember the CDC also said 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) updated its guidance for people who are fully vaccinated, saying that most don’t need to be tested for COVID-19, even after having a known exposure to the virus.

The CDC guidance specifically says that fully vaccinated people can “refrain” from testing unless they’re residents or employees of a correctional or detention facility, or a homeless shelter. As a whole, though, the CDC says that the risk of infection for someone who is fully vaccinated is “low."1


Guess they were wrong about that as well. 

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At the time they released that they were correct. Now that it's fact that the vaccine wains guidance has changed.

 Based on evolving evidence, CDC recommends fully vaccinated people get tested 5-7 days after close contact with a person with suspected or confirmed COVID-19. 

  1. Oct 15, 2021 · Based on evolving evidenceCDC recommends fully vaccinated people get tested 5-7 days after close contact with a person with suspected or confirmed COVID-19. Added Annex describing what vaccines qualify people as fully vaccinated and how to interpret vaccine records.


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Originally posted by ksc ksc wrote:

At the time they released that they were correct. Now that it's fact that the vaccine wains guidance has changed.

 Based on evolving evidence, CDC recommends fully vaccinated people get tested 5-7 days after close contact with a person with suspected or confirmed COVID-19. 

  1. Oct 15, 2021 · Based on evolving evidenceCDC recommends fully vaccinated people get tested 5-7 days after close contact with a person with suspected or confirmed COVID-19. Added Annex describing what vaccines qualify people as fully vaccinated and how to interpret vaccine records.


No the CDC were incorrect. They came to a scientific conclusion without the benefit of proper actual in depth study as should have been done prior to changing their guidance.

 2.5 months for a total about face shows that to be absolutely true.

The question is how many covid cases did it cause and how many paid with their lives as a direct result of the CDC's incompetence?


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Minister is 36 years old, went out clubbing till 4am, left her work phone at home and was therefore unreachable to get a text telling her she needed to quarantine.
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Maybe the CDC should offer one to the  families of those that suffered losses as a direct result of their inept advice. And maybe main stream media will investigate and cover the actions of the CDC that lead to those losses. The likelihood of both of those or even one of those happening is pretty much ZERO.

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I feel like this is one of those scenarios that when what we are all thinking turns out to be true, a spike in cases, we are all going to be questioning why no one seemed to listen to this news about waste water!

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