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 Topic: ??? Canadian Goose Has Bird FluPosted: June 19 2006 at 9:12am |
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Note Jhetta: Still do not know if it is H5N1... funny how they alwasy leave the important info out!
Canadian Goose Has Bird Flu A goose in Canada has tested positive for bird flu. |
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 9:32am |
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I think people are just confused. When they write the first of it's kind in North or South America, it implies H5N1 because we have had other types of bird flu in our countries.
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 9:48am |
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what does it mean when they say in romania not sure how it was spread to birds maybe humans cars and something else i forget its at oie romania update #3
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 10:28am |
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If this is true it is a scoop because NOONE else is reporting it YET.
The deaths of those goslings would be consistent with h5n1 findings.
Its a normal logical thought process that would lead anyone to conclude this.
Can we get a verification on this ?
CBS affiliate in California reporting this.
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 10:53am |
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I'm surprised no one here mentioned a couple facts that are known.
It is quicker and cheaper to test for H5 than it is for N1. One source said they would have the N1 results Tuesday (tomorrow). Let's hope.
H5N2 has been in North America before, so this is one reason to hope it is not H5N1. None of them are things we want to see, but no one so far has said H5N2 is a threat.
article (find others with search on google for H5N1 "not N1" ) :
The country has weathered three major outbreaks of highly pathogenic bird
flu before (see 'Past US outbreaks'). 'Low-pathogenic' bird flu, which kills few infected birds, occurs far more regularly. In the latest case, New Jersey's agriculture department made a public announcement about the discovery of an avian-flu strain — but it left out salient details. The announcement on 28 April did not mention when or specifically where
the infection was detected, saying only that preliminary tests had marked it as negative for the neuraminidase protein N1. The statement did not mention the haemagglutinin protein; Nature learned later that the state had a faint positive for H5, which can occur in both high- and low-pathogenic strains. The first samples were tested on 21 April. |
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 11:10am |
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Supposedly the low path is not dangerous to people. So why would they be looking for symptoms if not the N1. |
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 11:11am |
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"Health officials said they are monitoring people who live in the area for any flu-like symptoms."
Yeah, odd.
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 11:17am |
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This is what I posted on another thread links are on the other thread to the scource.
The United Nations health agency said H5 and H7 viruses are probably introduced to poultry flocks in their low pathogenic form. When allowed to circulate in poultry populations, the viruses can mutate, usually within a few months, into the highly pathogenic form
Sounds like trouble either which way. |
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 1:37pm |
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Also it said it was the first case of its kind in North or South America. h5 was just found in NJ not long ago.
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 1:42pm |
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Didnt they say it was low path in NJ? Ok im hoping it was taken care of properly.Im gonna worry now..................If it spread it could become high path.............. |
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 2:35pm |
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You can't wait for the end of virus testing to also check to see if people are getting sick. Someone might die a couple days after exposure if it is HPAI, and you want to isolate people that might be spreading a serious disease, as you would capture a dog who bit someone without explanation and see if there is reason to test it for rabies. If the virus samples are not highly pathogenic, that is good news for whoever is sick.
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 2:43pm |
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A second P.E.I. farm quarantined in wake of bird flu concerns A second Prince Edward Island farm has been placed under a quarantine order as a precautionary measure as authorities investigate the finding of an H5 avian flu virus in a domestic goose in that province. An official of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said the move was taken when investigators learned there had been traffic of people and perhaps poultry between the farm where the virus was found and another farm, both of which have small, mixed, free-range backyard flocks. Dr. Jim Clark said no birds from the second farm have displayed signs of illness and for the time being, authorities have not ordered their destruction. It will be Tuesday or Wednesday at the earliest before lab testing confirms whether the virus was truly an H5, and whether it was a highly pathogenic form or a virus of low pathogenicity. The Asian H5N1 virus is a high path virus. The CFIA's National Centre for Foreign Animal Diseases in Winnipeg will also be looking to determine whether the virus is of a North American lineage or is one of the Asian viruses. ''The fact that there are no birds ill there - if the virus has moved - that again would be additional evidence that what we're dealing with here is a low pathogenicity virus,'' the Ottawa-based Clark, national manager of CFIA's avian influenza working group, said in a conference call with journalists. ''There's nothing that's obvious for us that would suggest . . . it is anything except a low pathogenicity virus,'' he said, but added that until testing is done there is no way to be sure. The goose that tested positive for the virus was from a flock of 40 birds - Embden geese, muscovy ducks and plymouth bard rock chickens - in western P.E.I. Four of 11 geese died Monday. A post-mortem examination of the bird was inconclusive, said Clark, who noted a number of diseases could have caused the organ damage seen. - The Canadian Press Contaminated feed blamed for mad cow case in B.C. OTTAWA (CP) - Federal investigators believe a case of mad cow confirmed in a Fraser Valley dairy cow in April was probably caused by contaminated feed. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency has traced the feed to a supplier whose product appears linked to another BSE-infected animal that was confirmed in late January. The agency says the possible link suggests that all five of Canada's BSE cases fall within one cluster. Officials have said no parts of the B.C. animal entered the food chain and there is no danger to human health. The investigation looked at 148 cows associated with the infected animal. Twenty-two live animals were located and all tested negative for BSE and an additional pregnant cow will be tested after calving. http://www.birdflubreakingnews.com/templates/birdflu/window.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyheraldtribune.com%2FZ10_00bcanadainbrief0619.lasso |
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 3:37pm |
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H5 avian flu virus found in Canadian poultryJun 19, 2006 (CIDRAP News ) – An H5 avian influenza virus was found in a dead gosling in a backyard flock in eastern Canada late last week, but authorities said today there is "no evidence" that the virus is the deadly H5N1 strain. Meanwhile, Hungary was culling poultry following the recent confirmation of the country's first H5N1 outbreak in domestic birds, according to Agence France-Presse (AFP). In Canada, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) announced Jun 16 that a young goose on Prince Edward Island had tested positive for an H5 virus. The gosling was one of four birds that died in a flock of about 40, according to a Jun 18 Reuters report. Further testing was under way at the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease in Winnipeg, Man., the CFIA said. "There is no evidence to suggest that we are dealing with the H5N1 strain currently in Asia and other countries," the CFIA said in an update today. "That virus is marked by very high mortality in birds, which was not observed in this particular situation." If the virus turned out to be the deadly Asian strain of H5N1, this would mark its first appearance in North America. But mild H5 viruses have been found in Canadian poultry before. About 58,000 poultry were culled near Chilliwack, British Columbia, last November to stop an outbreak of a low-pathogenic H5 virus. The CFIA destroyed the Prince Edward Island flock of 35 to 40 ducks, geese, and chickens Jun 16, the Reuters report said. In addition, the CFIA said today it had quarantined a farm next to the affected one and was testing the birds there. "There has been no evidence of AI [avian influenza] in the birds on this second premises, but there has been regular movement of people and possibly animals between the two premises," the agency said. A CFIA veterinarian named Jim Clark suggested that the four dead birds on the affected farm might have died of something other than avian flu. "There's no direct evidence that the influenza virus was the cause of the problem in the four birds that died," Clark told Reuters. H5 and H7 viruses can have either high or low pathogenicity. Low-pathogenic forms circulating in poultry can mutate into high-pathogenic strains. If the Prince Edward Island virus is found to be highly pathogenic, all poultry within 3 kilometers of the affected farm will be culled, according to CFIA spokesman Marc Richard, as quoted by the Bloomberg news agency today. Canada had a bout with a highly pathogenic H7N3 avian flu virus in southern British Columbia 2 years ago, the Bloomberg reported noted. Authorities destroyed 17 million poultry to stop that outbreak. In Hungary, poultry culling was already under way when the European Union's avian flu reference laboratory in Weybridge, England, confirmed Jun 16 that the deadly H5N1 strain caused a disease outbreak on a farm in Kiskunmajsa, according to a Jun 16 AFP report. The outbreak was Hungary's first in domestic birds, according to an online report today by the weekly newspaper The Budapest Times. The country reported H5N1 cases in wild swans in February. Hungary reported the poultry outbreak to the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) Jun 9, listing the virus as an H5. The disease killed about 800 geese and prompted the culling of 2,300 more, according to the OIE report. The Budapest Times said the virus was found on several farms. "Authorities said all poultry within one kilometer of the outbreaks must be destroyed, meaning about half a million birds," the story said. Hungarian Agriculture Minister Jozsef Graf said the government had allocated 11 million euros to compensate farmers affected by the outbreak, the newspaper reported. Graf also said Hungary had asked the European Union for 32 million euros in compensation for losses due to avian flu. In other developments, China reported an avian flu outbreak on poultry farms in the northern province of Shanxi, according to an AFP story based on information from Xinhua. The story gave no details on the size of the outbreak. The deadly strain of H5N1 has affected poultry in 34 countries since late 2003, according to the OIE. The organization published a chart today that listed the number of reported outbreaks by country. Vietnam led the list with 2,313 outbreaks, followed by Thailand (1,078), Indonesia (211), Turkey (176), Romania (168), Russia (121), China (80), Nigeria (69), Ukraine (23), Korea (19), and Cambodia (16). See also: CFIA update on Canadian outbreak OIE report on Hungary outbreak OIE graph of poultry outbreaks by country Dec 30, 2005, CIDRAP News story "H5N1 avian flu viruses: What's in a name?" |
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