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CDC report 79% of all Omnicrom cases are vaxxed

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    Posted: December 14 2021 at 8:10pm

CDC report shows 79% of omicron cases are vaccinated; nearly all are mild

New data released by the CDC shows who omicron is impacting.

Of 43 cases reported the first week of December:

  • 58% were young people between 18 and 39 years old.
  • 79% were vaccinated, including 14 people who received a booster dose.
  • 16% had been infected with COVID-19 before.
  • 33% had traveled internationally
  • 1 person, who is vaccinated, was hospitalized

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7050e1.htm

HOUSTON — It’s been one week since the first case of the omicron variant was detected in the Houston area. Now it makes up 15% of positive COVID cases at Houston Methodist.

The Houston Health Department said Monday the omicron variant has now been found in 25 of the city's 39 wastewater treatment plants.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cdc-79-percent-omicron-vaccinated/285-c4a5c9e4-118d-4b54-8a62-e4c0723d68dd

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I would like an updated definition of "mild".  At the beginning of this, "mild" included pneumonia! Basically if you didn't have to be admitted to the hospital it was referred to as "mild" by the CDC.  

But the general public hears "mild" and thinks of a cold.

Guess I'll go dig around the CDC website and see what I can find. 

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I understand it-in most cases-may take up to +two weeks before a positive test can result in hospitalization...So-yes most people testing positive-did have only mild symptoms...Would be welcome if it stayed that way...

High % of vaccinated case is-just as "it is only mild"-not good news...I wonder what the patterns may become-are hosts with higher level of (antibody) immunity overrepresented ? 

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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

I understand it-in most cases-may take up to +two weeks before a positive test can result in hospitalization...So-yes most people testing positive-did have only mild symptoms...Would be welcome if it stayed that way...

High % of vaccinated case is-just as "it is only mild"-not good news...I wonder what the patterns may become-are hosts with higher level of (antibody) immunity overrepresented ? 

DJ are you alluding to the potential of ADE occurring?

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ADE a Non-Issue With COVID Vaccines

Scientists say that ADE is pretty much a non-issue with COVID-19 vaccines, but what are they basing this on?


From the early stages of COVID-19 vaccine development, scientists sought to target a SARS-CoV-2 protein that was least likely to cause ADE. For example, when they found out that targeting the nucleoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 might cause ADE, they quickly abandoned that approach. The safest route seemed to be targeting the S2 subunit of the spike protein, and they ran with that, wrote Derek Lowe, PhD, in his Science Translational Medicine blog "In the Pipeline."

 

Scientists designed animal studies to look for ADE. They looked for it in human trials, and they've been looking for it in the real-world data for COVID-19 vaccines with emergency use authorization. So far, they haven't seen signs of it. In fact, the opposite is happening, Lowe noted.

 

"[W]hat seems to be beyond doubt is that the vaccinated subjects, over and over, show up with no severe coronavirus cases and no hospitalizations. That is the opposite of what you would expect if ADE were happening," he wrote.

 

Furthermore, ADE is an acute problem, and it can be very dramatic. If it was an issue with these vaccines, we would have spotted it by now, said Brian Lichty, PhD, an associate professor in pathology and molecular medicine at McMaster University in Toronto.

 

"It'll kill you quickly. In all the places I'm aware of ADE happening, it is an acute, mostly cytokine-driven event," he told MedPage Today.

 

The one exception may be an inactivated whole-cell, or "killed," vaccine developed by China. That vaccine uses alum, the same adjuvant that was used in the measles and RSV vaccines that caused ADE in the 1960s. The Chinese inactivated whole-cell vaccine could "conceivably" generate ADE like those older vaccines, according to Bloom.

 

"I don't think that vaccine is ever going to see the light of day in the U.S., and it may not even be worth mentioning. There have been no actual cases of ADE with the Chinese whole-cell killed vaccine, or if so, it hasn't been reported," he said.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91648



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DJ-[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-politician-omicron-idUSL1N2SU218[/url] or https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-politician-omicron-idUSL1N2SU218Cannon does not speak about antibody dependent enhancement or anything similar in the clip or the entire speech. He is merely postulating that the COVID-19 vaccine might not be effective against the Omicron variant of the virus.

I simply do not know enough of all of this...so-again-I am not an expert-just trying to form an opinion...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine_misinformation_and_hesitancy#Antibody-dependent_enhancement[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine_misinformation_and_hesitancy#Antibody-dependent_enhancement ; Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) is the phenomenon in which a person with antibodies against one virus (i.e. from infection or vaccination) can develop worse disease when infected by a second closely-related virus, due to a unique and rare reaction with proteins on the surface of the second virus.[52][53] ADE has been observed in animal studies during the development of past coronavirus[which?] vaccines, but as of 18 March 2021 there had been no observed incidences in human vaccine trials.[54] ADE has been observed in vitro and in animal studies with many different viruses that do not display ADE in humans.[55][52] Molecular simulations indicate that ADE might play a role in new strains such as delta, but none in the strains that the vaccines were originally designed for.[1]Anti-vaccination activists cited ADE as a reason to avoid vaccination against COVID-19.[28][56]

DJ In my very limited understanding of how this virus may develop I think it may be possible something like ADE may-one bad day-be the final outcome. Immunity (both vaccine and post-infection(s) pushing variant selection that way...

For now the mix of vaccines, limiting contacts to the minimum, semi-lockdown (war economy) and at least keep some testing/sequencing going in my-non expert-eyes may be the best we have...If we no longer can stop infections second "line of defense" as good as possible treatments ? 

Better suggestions more then welcome !

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