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Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ShaRenKa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 4:05pm
Tongue  Great Letter Gettingready! But in all honesty...its their job to keep all the info away from us, until they can no longer hide the facts;( IMO? I can see this boiling down to a cleansing of this planet, getting rid of many, while the Gov't stand strong in the end....except for the chosen few who make it thru it all. Call me nutz...whatever....but I do not trust the Gov't...any Gov't...or part of.  Shocked
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Oldasrocks,
 That's strange info. Everything I've ever read or heard about the black death is that it's caused by a nasty bacteria called yersinias pestis, which multiplies in the lymphatic nodes causing the characteristic "bubos" that give it the name bubonic plague.
Focusing on the obvious will lead to disaster. It's what you don't aniticipate that gets you killed.
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WHO Probes Bird Flu Cluster
Signs of Human Transmission Sought in Indonesian Deaths

By Alan Sipress
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, May 19, 2006; A17

JAKARTA, Indonesia, May 18 -- An international team of health investigators arrived on the Indonesian island of Sumatra on Thursday to determine whether an unusually large cluster of human bird flu cases indicates that the highly lethal virus has mutated into a form easily spread among people.

Laboratory tests conducted for the World Health Organization confirmed this week that five members of one extended family in Kubu Sembilang village had died of bird flu during the first two weeks of May and a sixth had been infected but was recovering. A seventh family member, a 37-year-old woman who had been the first to fall ill, is also suspected of succumbing to the disease but was buried before samples could be taken.

The Sumatran cluster is the world's largest since the disease emerged in East Asia in 2003, although several dozen others have been reported. Any cluster raises the prospect that the virus has undergone genetic change allowing it to spread more readily among people, increasing the likelihood of a global pandemic.

WHO dispatched two investigators from its Jakarta office to northern Sumatra last week, but their initial efforts were stymied by distraught relatives' reluctance to discuss the cases. A second team, which arrived Thursday, included a senior epidemiologist from WHO's headquarters in Geneva and investigators from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta and WHO's regional office in New Delhi.

"We are taking this very seriously," said Sari Setiogi, spokeswoman for WHO's Indonesia office. "The good news is that from our investigation to date, there's no evidence of further spread of the virus beyond the family."

Setiogi said that relatives, neighbors and health-care workers who treated the patients were being monitored and that none had shown influenza-like symptoms.

Influenza specialists have said they suspect human transmission played a role in several other clusters of infection, including instances in Thailand, Vietnam and elsewhere in Indonesia. But the disease has yet to demonstrate it can pass beyond the confines of a family, which would be necessary for bird flu to spark a global epidemic.

The source of the Sumatra outbreak remains unclear. Health officials said that they had heard a report of sick chickens near one of the victims' homes but that tests of poultry and other livestock in the village had failed to identify any infected animals. Agriculture Minister Anton Apriyantono said Thursday, however, that samples taken from chickens, ducks and pigs from the surrounding district had tested positive for exposure to bird flu.

Some Indonesian health officials have speculated that the afflicted family members, who lived near each other in four houses, had contracted the virus either by sharing a feast of infected chicken and pork or from contaminated manure. Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari minimized the possibility that the virus had spread from one family member to another.

If they had all caught bird flu from the same contaminated source, the victims would have been expected to become sick within the normal incubation period for the disease, which at most is slightly more than one week. But the final victim, a toddler, became ill after that, raising the possibility that the virus was passed between relatives.

Nur Rasyid Lubis, who heads the bird flu prevention team at Adam Malik Hospital in North Sumatra, said five members of the family, including at least two children, were admitted at the same time on May 8 with fever and respiratory problems. X-rays showed symptoms of pneumonia. They all died over the following week.

Lubis reported that all seven victims from the family were related to one another by blood rather than through marriage, reinforcing the suspicions of some influenza specialists that genetic susceptibility could play a role in determining who catches bird flu.

The Sumatra cases and a separate fatal infection confirmed this week in Surabaya, Indonesia's second-largest city, increased the country's death toll from the disease to at least 30. Bird flu has infected more than 216 people worldwide, killing more than half.

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Yes you are right but the History channel said the initial spread was most probably from ducks or geese. As i said it jumped around and skipped whole countries only to appear later. As people traveled by boat, horse or foot it couyld not spread like it could now with jets.  I ordered the tape but never received it.
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http://www.liputan6.com/view/3,123161,1,0,1148122198.html

Liputan6.com, Medan: the positive Patient bird flu, Jonnes Ginting that was treated in Adam's Hospital the Owner, Medan, North Sumatra, began to obey the doctor's advice.
The patient that could bolt twice this began to realise the illness that was suffered very dangerous.
Was like this it was said Mombang Ginting, the mother Jonnes, in Medan, recently.
As far as this is concerned indeed the Jonnes condition improved.
The progress was marked by the temperature of the normal body and the breathless loss after being given antibiotik and the infusion continually.
The man from the Karo Land, North Sumatra this also was guarded tight so that still did not bolt [read: wanted to drink Coffee, Jonnes Ginting Again bolted].
While Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari stressed, the Department of the Health did not yet pull out the status of the extraordinary incident (KLB) bird flu in the Motherland.
Siti Fadilah stressed, up to now was not yet found by existence proof of the spreading of the virus avian sub-type influenza H5N1.
That it was stressed the alumnus of the University Gadjah Stupid that when the case cluster or the bird flu sufferer in one family improved to six cases [read: Lima the Patient was ascertained Positive Terjangkit Bird Flu].
Recorded, in the Simbelang Fortification Village, the Karo Land, there were four people it was confirmed died because of bird flu.
Now another that died also it was suspected because of bird flu.
(AIS/Chaerul Dharma and the Arbianto Choke)
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Well, doctor, I have written to my Senators about this issue.  No response back yet.  I have called on this board and my Aztectalk3 board for others to write.  Hopefully some will.
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   Joe, I also have written to my senators (NY) as well as my representative. I will follow up with a phone call, probably on Friday.
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Pressure is mounting.
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