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    Posted: October 04 2014 at 12:18pm
I wonder what the code name is for the operation of intentional ebola genocide being actively waged against the US?
Unrestricted travel out of Africa during epidemic will spread ebola. Any US acquired ebola deaths are intentional murder by Obama,his administration, and supporters of a policy of Ebola genocide.
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One Trips Over The Coo Coos Nest?

It's The Ebola, Stupid?

Ebola House?

Usola?

I guess we could go on and on with that.
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I have one for the way ebola took over the web:  E-bola.  Yeah, I know, not funny.  Sigh.
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His lips or pen are moving.
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More Obama-bashing. You right-wingers are just plain stupid. No wonder the GOP is soon to be obsolete.
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I'd like to post on this one, but unless I buy the expensive foil the hat leaves a mark on my forehead and turns the tops of my ears green. Who's trying to kill who exactly?
Nice one, Techno...

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No worries inthesticks, i like Obama and voted for him.  Just disappointed in the handling on flights coming out of W. Africa.

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Originally posted by inthesticks inthesticks wrote:

More Obama-bashing. You right-wingers are just plain stupid. No wonder the GOP is soon to be obsolete.


Actually, I wasn't even thinking about Obama. It could of been Bush in there or my sister. I was thinking in terms of what might "they" be thinking up for a name if this really was such a conspiracy. Which I refuse to believe is. Or at least at this time. But since you brought it up, how about Ebolaputts? Get off rhe guilt trip with Obama. He's had his share of flops like all of the swine...flu...riddin'...pests.
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I get I've not been a long time member here... and maybe things have evolved... but things sure have changed.  You guys were known as the dark side to us at sf.org... where constant heated debates took place, where you shouldn't come 'round less you had your big girl panties on.  Know what I mean? 
 
We had an Off Topic forum over there (which I loved) and that's where all... well... off topic stuff went, but we were REALLY strict even there so if you wanted to speak your peace about whatever the thought was "go over to AFT".  Hope I don't offend any of you by saying this, but I'm just surprised it's not that way anymore.
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well, inthesticks, I don't appreciate being called stupid for having enough sense to not vote for someone who had no experience in anything but whining (activism).

I like America being a republic and will love for all those who wish for a socialist govt to go to country that has that form of govt and stop trying to vote it in here.

*flame off*

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Jen, it was pretty bad back in the day, wasn't it?
The tone has definitely changed - it's a lot less confrontational around here. There's always going to be differences of opinion (principally political), but it's much calmer here than in years past - I'm just glad I don't have to break up as many fights as I used to get into now that I'm a mod



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It does make you wonder. I expect incompetence out of the 20 year old LPN who never watches the news and couldn't find Africa on a map so yea, she checks the Liberia box and that's the end of it. But it seems there should be somebody higher up that knows how this thing is going to go down. We know. They do too. If we have to keep the planes flying, put them in isolation for 25 days.
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Jen, it was pretty bad back in the day, wasn't it?
The tone has definitely changed - it's a lot less confrontational around here. There's always going to be differences of opinion (principally political), but it's much calmer here than in years past - I'm just glad I don't have to break up as many fights as I used to get into now that I'm a mod



 
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Thanks Jen, but I was always in awe of the way you kept SF on an even keel, especially with all the spam you had to deal with over the years. I do like the way Albert has a bunch of mods now - makes everyone's lives a lot easier. Between Penham and the other mods, I don't have a fraction of the work you had.


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Suzi - - The following is what I posted on ebolainfo in response to "How Not to Clean Up Puke"

This clearly shows that some people do not know what this is all about. CDC can make statements all they want that they know how to stop ebola but all it takes is a few incidents like this an all bets are off. I said in a much earlier post that West Africa will start to win the battle when people are educated. I think we will be able to contain it in the US when all people are educated. CDC needs a BIG Public Info push.

What happened with the Duncan case scares me. First case out of the chute and it's screwed up royally. But my big concern is how CDC and the public are reacting - - I see a lot of people not knowing the basics and that's what's going to let this disease progress. For all of the talk about our robust health system, we were no better than West Africa in dealing with the first case.
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Originally posted by nc_girl nc_girl wrote:

well, inthesticks, I don't appreciate being called stupid for having enough sense to not vote for someone who had no experience in anything but whining (activism).

I like America being a republic and will love for all those who wish for a socialist govt to go to country that has that form of govt and stop trying to vote it in here.

*flame off*



I totally agree with you!

Obama had no experience managing anything. People voted for him simply because they felt it was time to have a black president, but that was a poor excuse. I'd rather have a business man or woman at the helm rather than a dope smoking community organizer with a huge chip on his shoulder against whitey.
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My thought was it should be called operation blind complacency.
Unrestricted travel out of Africa during epidemic will spread ebola. Any US acquired ebola deaths are intentional murder by Obama,his administration, and supporters of a policy of Ebola genocide.
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For the record I would be just as hacked about this if any president of any party was doing this. I am for sending aid in. But no one should be allowed out except through quarantine. (Nod to Suzi). Still I believe we should be able to deliver aid without violating quarantine. Who is killing who JD? Anyone   who supports unrestricted travel out of a known Ebola epidemic region is responsible for each and every death occurring from any US acquired ebola cases. I truly hope I am wrong and there are no US or UK acquired cases. Then you all can just call me a nut and a fool.
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Originally posted by inthesticks inthesticks wrote:

More Obama-bashing. You right-wingers are just plain stupid. No wonder the GOP is soon to be obsolete.


Do you think allowing travel without quarantine from an Ebola epidemic area to an area without infection is a good plan? Does this policy match our accumulated knowledge on preventing/slowing the spread of a highly pathogenic organism? Isolation is what we try to do in hospitals. Restricting travel its the same concept on a larger scale, do you think we should do away with isolation in hospitals as well?

I just want you know, I would say the same things if a right winger was president.

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How about code name Operation Methuselah.
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(nc_girl: well, inthesticks, I don't appreciate being called stupid for having enough sense to not vote for someone who had no experience in anything but whining (activism).)


Well dear, if the shoe fits.... The right-wing, bigoted, homophobic, God Squad, and STUPID types are ruining this country. Everything that President Obama has done while in office has been criticized and bashed by the stupid FOX News types. If the GOP cannot change with the times (which they can't seem to do), then they are doomed to the trash heap of history. Oh, and BTW...America is only a Republic in name, but is a DEMOCRACY in actuality.
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Drumfish, please don't take offense.
I understand that you're referring to the continued flights out of West Africa, and I share your concern - it was a knee jerk reaction from me because it does get thrown out as a legitimate theory (usually with a political bias) and it doesn't make sense in the context of this Ebola outbreak. It's too sloppy and slow to spread, and doesn't strike me as a realistic candidate for the job. Now that's not to say I wouldn't ever rule it out completely - I can be as conspirational as the best of them if the planetary alignment is just so.
There are many who share this little rock that count their wealth in the "more than God" range, and if one of them decided that the minions were getting out of hand and taking the whole go forth and multiply thing a little too literally, I could see the right (or wrong) person or persons deciding to retreat to their compound/fortress/bunker/supervillain island while the overpopulation issue was dealt with "twelve monkeys" style. But not with Ebola.
Now Chuck's freeze dried smallpox in Russia would be another matter altogether - especially as nobody has vaccinated civilians for years, despite the continued existence of the virus in labs. But that would be crazy talk...

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Inthesticks, take a breath dude. From personal experience, I know that coming out swinging rarely changes minds, and typically escalates the thread into an all out (and unproductive) brawl pretty quickly. Your politics are not that far from mine, but nc_girl is a long standing and respected member on AFT and didn't deserve that. Arguing your point without resorting to name calling would be very much appreciated.



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JD if it is two sloppy and slow to spread what is happening in Africa? Is it a scam to get us to throw money at Africa or is it an epidemic spiraling out of control? I ascribe to the theory that because of our population, society, and mobility. If it gets loose here it could be worse than in the 3rd world. I full well know there are things much worse than Ebola. But their not here happening right now.
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JD I did not take offense with what you had said. I do disagree though. If we didn't disagree there would be nothing to talk about
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That's why AFT works so well. If you go on other forums and offering an opposing view, you get treated like a child (ask me how I know). That's why I stay here - stifling free expression doesn't make for a healthy forum.


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I did meet leavitt once.
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I liked him - he was one of the few that admitted the prospect of a pandemic scared him while he was still HHS Secretary. Tommy Thompson waited until he quit before admitting it was the one thing that had kept him awake at night.



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It's not about republicans and democrats. That's just theatre. See the big picture. It's about the deconstruction of the U.S. The money thing is not working anymore. This way they won't be blamed.
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People need to get over the whole Republican / Democrat thing, both parties are screwing us six ways to Sunday!

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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Thanks Jen, but I was always in awe of the way you kept SF on an even keel, especially with all the spam you had to deal with over the years. I do like the way Albert has a bunch of mods now - makes everyone's lives a lot easier. Between Penham and the other mods, I don't have a fraction of the work you had.






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mrmouse I salute you.  Your posted video is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 

The last person to come up with this idea defeated the British army, controlled by a king who was so crazy he planted joints of beef in his garden so he could grow beef trees.  200yrs ago when that bunch of naer-do-wells had finished fighting amongst themselves they started a nation.  That nation became the most powerfull on earth, with a written constitution and a bill of rights.  They prospered and became rich.  It even had the audacity to walk on the moon and send a small robot envoy to the stars.  The people of that nation have lost some of their rights, they had them chipped away and it is still happening, courtesy of the Mr Jonses, wether they be politicians or religionists, and yet, the whole world is jealous of them. 

The land of the King and those controlling soldiers of yesteryear has no right to bear arms, its people are given crumbs and told they are wonderful and for this they should be greatful.  The Jonses of the old nation are desperately planning to increase their power over the people by breaking up their European relationship, overruling and destroying the European Bill of Rights and ensuring the upper chamber of their house of governance is infilled and controlled by the state religion with its Lord Bishops and a house full of untouchables.  Even the King's line is subdued and controlled.  Yet the people cheer Mr Jones and honour him by their fanatical crowding to the voting booths in his name, regardless of the colour of the flag he waves.

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WillobyBrat, thank you for the salute!

The Founding Fathers fundamental flaw in the formation of the United States was that they allowed slavery to continue!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

It's as if the seeds of the Civil War over State Rights were planted at the very beginning.
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mrmouse,Thomas Jefferson also said that he could NOT justify Slavery and he owned slaves. He described it like "having a Wolf by the ears,you knew that you could not continue to hold on,but you were afraid to turn lose".Johnray1
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Ah guys "Rome is burning"

operation blind complacency

Ring any bells??
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A wolf that continues to haunt us to this day Johnray1!
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Originally posted by inthesticks inthesticks wrote:

Oh, and BTW...America is only a Republic in name, but is a DEMOCRACY in actuality.

(Much name-calling snipped)

(Darkwombat puts on pedantic monocle and tweed jacket)

Sorry, but I just cannot let this pass.  You have it backwards -- The USA is often casually called a democracy, but is in fact more specifically a Constitutional Republic.

It is true that Constitutional Republics, as well as other forms of government such as Parliamentary Republics and Constitutional Monarchies, can be considered "representative democracies" -- that is, all of them rely on elected officials rather than on direct referendum.  However, this does NOT mean they are not their own specific mode of government.
 
A Constitutional Republic is government by elected representatives of the people, who are bound to govern by a constitution. This exactly and spoecifically described the mode of the US federal government.
 
Lions, tigers, and cheetahs are all varieties of big cat -- but one would never say "That is a tiger in name only -- it is ACTUALLY a Big Cat!"  It is correct to say that a tiger is a big cat.  But it is more accurate and specific to call a tiger a tiger. 
 
It is correct to say that the US is a representative democracy.  But it is more accurate and specific to say that the US is a Constitutional Republic.


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I think that the US is more accurately described as a "corporate oligarchy"


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Real, real is infected are being brought into our countries. The smartest people in the room are still saying its OK we can contain it. Then they continue to bring the infected. So are they just that stupid or is it done with purpose? Operation blind complacency?
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drumfish,they are that stupid mixed with an arrogance that most would not believe.Johnray1
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