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Deltacron in the UK

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    Posted: February 11 2022 at 11:46am
Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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I just don't see this being a concern.  Hopefully I am right!!

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"Yaneer Bar-Yam@yaneerbaryamDeltaChron hybrid now in the UK. 


Many different hybrids are possible. Properties of one may be very different from those of another. 


Virus advantage by having many possibilities to try. 


Our disadvantage is passivity.Quote TweetChris Turnbull@EnemyInAState · 17hIt's OFFICIAL, DELTACRON IS HERE IN THE UK: AND IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT: Delta has merged with Omicron and is now an official variant under investigation:Show this thread6:21 PM · Feb 12, 2022·Twitter Web App"

DJ in a reaction;

"Pr. Nonos@Pr_Nonos·10hReplying to @yaneerbaryam"DeltaChron hybrid now in the UK. 


Many different hybrids are possible."


I've been warning for quite a long time about the risk of a hybrid between CoV-2 and... HIV.


That day will be Armageddon!


And we just let the virus mooooove into the population, as said BoJo..."

DJ, In Cyprus "Deltacron" most likely was a coinfection of Delta and Omicron...we are now a bit further and "indications are" Delta and Omicron ([url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-new-recombinant-sars-cov-2-variant-involving-delta-subvariant-ay-119-2-and-omicron-ba-1-1-has-already-emerged-in-the-united-states[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-new-recombinant-sars-cov-2-variant-involving-delta-subvariant-ay-119-2-and-omicron-ba-1-1-has-already-emerged-in-the-united-states most likely AY.119.2 and BA.1.1 sub-variants) did form a "new variant"...But this is a US story !!! Some cases may have been exported to the UK....

Selective pressure will see this new variant has the qualities to "spread better"...giving the virus more chances for growth....

Deltacron (and possibly Beta-Delta-mix [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/recombination/preprint-possible-recombination-between-beta-and-delta/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/recombination/preprint-possible-recombination-between-beta-and-delta/ ) could have been expected as a very likely outcome of co-infections in a host. 

The chance it get detected in such an early stage that there are "only very limited numbers" is "unrealistcly optimistic"...the US is "not very good at sequencing" so when this kind of recombination shows up it must be allready be spreading and evolving...

With restrictions lifted more spread will see more mutations giving Deltacron better chance to get "major"....Looking at [url]https://outbreak.info/location-reports?loc=USA&dark=true[/url] or https://outbreak.info/location-reports?loc=USA&dark=true BA.1 and BA.1.1 are "in competition", still no sign of BA.2 (or BA.2+)...it may be that in the US the "US form of BA.1.1 may in fact-at least for some part-be Deltacron" ? 

Will it "get big", maybe it allready is "big"....and may push up US cases...(by a stop on testing and reporting it may not show up in statistics...for some time...). 

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