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MIKE DROP: Flynn Pleads Guilty Today To Lying To FBI

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/mike-drop-flynn-pleads-guilty-today-lying

BREAKING: Trump Urged Top Republicans To End Russia Investigation

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/breaking-trump-urged-top-republicans-end


yeah 'cause this is how innocent people behave LOL


and the BIG question IS ???


did Flynn make a deal?

and if he did

WHO is going DOWN ???



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and will Chump sack Mueller before he gets SENT to the Big House for TREASON............or is that the CHAIR ????????????? lol

..................a fitting end to a DOUCHBAG..............
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Stocks close lower after Michael Flynn report sends Wall Street on wild ride

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/us-stock-futures-data-opec-tax-on-the-agenda.html


if this is true ....

JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians.


Donnie and Kushner must be wetting themselves about now

no wonder Trump pressured top Republicans to try and shut down the investigation

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If Flynn Is Small Fry, Who’s the Bigger Fish in Mueller’s Net?

The former national-security adviser pleads guilty to making false statements, and is now cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation.

Updated on December 1 at 12:00 p.m.

Whatever is on President Trump’s Christmas list, it didn’t include Friday’s news: Special Counsel Robert Mueller has charged former National-Security Adviser Michael Flynn with making false statements to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Worse, Flynn pleaded guilty Friday morning at federal court in Washington.

It’s an ironic turn for a man who first reached widespread national attention leading chants of “Lock her up!” about Hillary Clinton at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

And it is monumental news in the special counsel’s investigation, dwarfing even the indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. First, and most bluntly, it’s notable because the former national-security adviser, the closest adviser to the president on the most sensitive issues of defense and national safety, is pleading guilty to a felony committed while he served as national-security adviser.

Second, the move puts Mueller’s investigation inside the White House. As I wrote last month, a Flynn indictment filled the Trump team with particular dread, and for good reason. Before the Flynn charge, Mueller had charged two former campaign staffers with crimes committed outside of the campaign, and a low-level campaign staffer had pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his contacts with Russians during the campaign.Flynn, in contrast, was a top adviser to the president in the White House before he was fired in mid-February, for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about his conversations with Kislyak. That made his tenure as national-security adviser historically brief. So far, the special counsel has released little information about the charges, but the two-page document indicates that Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak concerned presidential policy. According to the special counsel, Flynn spoke to Kislyak asking him to refrain from responding to new sanctions imposed in the waning days of the Obama administration, and that Flynn asked Kislyak to delay or defeat a UN Security Council vote; he then lied about those conversations with the FBI.The fact that Flynn was operating on behalf of the incoming government represents the first concrete case of Trump’s presidential staff, rather than his campaign team, covering up contacts with Russia. Prosecutors said in court filings on Friday that Flynn called a “senior official of the Presidential Transition Team” on December 29, after being contacted by Kislyak, and was told that the transition did not want Russia to escalate the situation. Flynn then called Kislyak to request that Russia respond only in a reciprocal manner, which it subsequently did.The filings also said that, on December 22, “a very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments about a pending UN Security Council resolution on the issue of Israel settlements, to find out where they stood and to persuade them to delay or defeat the resolution. Flynn made that request of Kislyak that same day, but Kislyak told him the following day that Russia would not oppose the resolution if it came to a vote. (It passed with 14 votes in favors, and only the U.S. abstaining.)

Third, the plea appears to corroborate reports that Flynn was working toward a deal in which he would plead guilty in exchange for cooperating with the government. That’s also bad news for the Trump administration, because it indicates that Flynn knows something of value to the special counsel’s investigation. Mueller’s choice of lieutenants has suggested he is seeking to flip key witnesses in order to learn essential information, but so far that had only yielded George Papadopoulos, a previously little-known campaign aide. Flynn is a far larger catch. In fact, one might expect the national-security adviser to be near the top of the food chain, since he reports directly to the president. If Flynn is small fry, how many bigger fish are there, and who?

Fourth, it’s notable that the charge against Flynn is lying to the FBI. That’s because it has been more or less known since February that he did so. On February 16, three days after Flynn’s forced resignation, The Washington Post reported both that Flynn had denied speaking with Kislyak about the sanctions in a conversation with FBI agents, and that intelligence intercepts indicated he was lying. The FBI interview took place on January 24; on January 26, then-Acting Attorney General Sally Yates spoke to White House Counsel Don McGahn, and in testimony in May she implied that she had informed McGahn that Flynn lied to FBI agents. The investigation into Flynn’s alleged lying to FBI agents long-predates Mueller’s appointment as special counsel in May.


Flynn could also be in trouble for things he did before he was appointed national-security adviser. After leaving the military, Flynn was paid for trips overseas, including one to Russia for a fete celebrating RT, the Kremlin-backed news and propaganda outlet; at dinner, Flynn was seated with President Vladimir Putin. As former top brass, Flynn should have sought Pentagon permission before taking those trips; he also should have disclosed them when applying to renew his security clearance in 2016. Members of Congress allege that Flynn did neither.

These are only the incidents which have been publicly reported. Mueller may or may not know of other possible misdeeds.

The obvious question any time someone is caught lying to the FBI is, How could they have been so stupid? This is especially true in the case of Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. As a decorated and accomplished intelligence officer, he should have known that conversations with the Russian ambassador might be surveilled, producing irrefutable evidence that he was lying. His decision to lie about such a black-and-white matter raises questions about whether he might have hoped to cover something up.

The plea once again raises questions about the president’s judgment, both in hiring Flynn and afterwards. Flynn’s firing from the DIA by President Obama for mismanagement ought to have been a red flag. The campaign did not effectively vet Flynn, failing to turn up the missing security-clearance disclosures. The New York Times reports that Flynn told the Trump transition team in January that he was under investigation for undisclosed lobbying on behalf of Turkey. Top White House officials deny they were informed.

Nor did Trump act swiftly to deal with Flynn’s duplicity. Even after McGahn was apparently informed that Flynn had lied to the FBI, Trump did not force Flynn out until February 13—and then only after The Washington Post reported that Flynn had lied about his conversations with Kislyak. At the time, the White House said Flynn was forced out for lying to Mike Pence, and it also defended his character, even as it knew he’d lied to the FBI.

Once Flynn had been fired, the president pressured then-FBI Director James Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn, one of several incidents in which the president attempted to interfere in FBI probes. On May 9, Trump fired Comey, a decision he attributed to the Russia probe. Here, too, Trump’s aggressive steps to defend Flynn seem to defy simple explanation. Flynn’s plea could tie into a reported investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice by firing Comey.

Given the brevity of the public documents, there’s little else to be gleaned at this point. Mueller’s investigation has been highly disciplined about leaks, with little information reaching the public. There’s no way to predict how soon information obtained from Flynn might reach the public or help to produce fresh charges. But the simple fact of Mueller nabbing Flynn now is enough to take a little merrimentout of the president’s Christmas.

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The Trump-Russia Story Is Coming Together. Here’s How to Make Sense of It

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/6/1721815/-The-Trump-Russia-Story-Is-Coming-Together-Here-s-How-to-Make-Sense-of-It

Harper: Up to and including the firing of James Comey, Trump did everything he could to try to shut down, slow down or stop the investigation. First, he tried to shut down the investigation of Mike Flynn. Then it turned out that Mike Flynn is probably just a piece of a much larger problem, which is Russia. Trump admitted to the Russian ambassador and to the Russian foreign minister shortly after he fired Comey that now he’s got some relief from the Russia problem — in other words, Comey’s gone! But what’s happened since then is the continuing effort to interfere with the investigation, even in the form of tweets — all of which sure look a lot to me like witness intimidation for some of the key players in the saga.

And then there’s a third component, which is in a way the most insidious — the willingness of the congressional GOP to be complicit in all of this. We’re talking now about a prescription for disaster for democracy. It’s all part of the same story. If you think about it, every single person who has said something about there being no connection between Trump and Russia during the campaign has been caught in a lie about it. Even with this fellow George Papadopoulos, the talking point immediately became, “Well, he didn’t get in trouble for anything that he did, he got in trouble for lying to federal investigators.” Sure, and what was he lying to federal investigators about? About whether or not there were any contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia. And that’s the part that everybody glosses over in terms of the talking points on the Republican side.


let me repeat that one part


" If you think about it, every single person who has said something about there being no connection between Trump and Russia during the campaign has been caught in a lie about it."


EVERY SINGLE PERSON


as I have asked before

if your not doing anything wrong

they why the &*^%$*   are you constantly LYING ???



and then there is this

Moyers: Harding, who’s a very experienced reporter, quotes the British ex-spy, Christopher Steele, who worked in Russia for years and compiled that notorious dossier on Trump that mysteriously appeared last year. He quotes Steele saying that “Russian intelligence has been secretly cultivating Trump for years.” As you and I discussed in August, Trump appears to have attracted the attention of Soviet intelligence as far back as 1987, on his first visit to Moscow — a visit arranged by the top level of the Soviet diplomatic service, with the assistance of the KGB.


what was that one part again?



He quotes Steele saying that “Russian intelligence has been secretly cultivating Trump for years.”


no wonder Trump is pressuring top Republicans to shut Mueller down


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Keeping up with my Paul Manafort bashing.....he's a traitor against the USA.   And, apparently, he's a blooming idiot! 


Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manfort allegedly violated orders from the judge who is presiding over his case by attempting to sneak a ghostwritten op-ed in praise of Paul Manafort into the press, according to court filings that special counsel Robert Mueller’s team issued on Monday. Mueller’s office changed its position on the loosening of bail terms for Manafort based on the alleged attempted shenanigans.

On Wednesday, Talking Points Memo published the op-ed in question, which it received from professed author Oleg Voloshyn. It is a hoot!

TPM reported that the op-ed could be described as a “love letter to Manafort.” That description, however, does a disservice to love letters, which generally are a little more subtle.

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Americans Are Allowing Trump To Turn U.S. Into Russia, Garry Kasparov Warns


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kasparov-warningto-americans-ontrump_us_5a38a2d5e4b0fc99878e473a?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Russian chess champion and political activist Garry Kasparov has a chilling warning for Americans: While you’re distracted by the bully in the White House, democratic institutions are being ripped apart.

Kasparov said he sees some of the same tactics he witnessed in Russia being used in the U.S., like a leader “lying constantly while attacking targets for lying” and the “escalation of rhetoric to dictatorial extremes.”


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White House Counsel McGahn Knew Flynn was Crooked in January, and Warned Trump

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/20/1726340/-White-House-Counsel-McGahn-Knew-Flynn-was-Crooked-in-January-and-Warned-Trump

and
AND

even the outgoing Obama administration WARNED Trump about FlynnLOL

best judgment ever LOL
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Sarah Kendzior: Trump Likely To Be Threatening, Blackmailing Republicans


https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/sarah-kendzior-trump-may-be-threatening



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Unbelievable: New Russian Link to Trump, Direct Money From Russian Government!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/2/1729202/-Unbelievable-New-Russian-Link-to-Trump-Direct-Money-to-Russian-Government
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oh is getting good
REAL good

NYT: Founders of Fusion GPS Say GOP is Hiding Their Trump-Russia Testimony

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/2/1729314/-NYT-Founders-of-Fusion-GPS-Say-GOP-is-Hiding-Their-Trump-Russia-Testimony

Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.

We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.


what was that last part again ?

the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp."


no wonder Republicans are so DESPERATE to shut down the Mueller investigation

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Fusion GPS founders call on Congress to release their testimony, public deserves the shocking truth

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/3/1729490/-Fusion-GPS-founders-call-on-Congress-to-release-their-testimony-public-deserves-the-shocking-truth

In the op-ed, Simpson and Fritsch accuse Republicans of blocking the full release of their testimony, which they say contains jaw-dropping information the public deserves to know about Donald Trump, his finances and his campaign. They even told congressional investigators precisely where to find the evidence they need to prove Trump's crimes:

We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.

We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.

We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.


the drip drip drip has now turned into a constant stream,

just waiting for the raging river with class 5 rapids next


Trump and fellow CORRUPT  Republicans are doing everything they can to stop this investigation,now we know why



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Bannon reportedly to Tell ALL to Mueller

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/16/1733451/-Bannon-reportedly-to-Tell-ALL-to-Mueller

Trump already invoking Executive Privilege to shut Bannon down

cause this is what innocent people who have nothing to hide do LOL
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The underlying reason for executive privilege -- that a chief executive is entitled to candid advice from close aides without fear that such discussions would be revealed in a courtroom -- has been upheld in the courts.

But while validating the theory of executive privilege, those courts have sometimes refused to let a president exercise it. The most important test of the doctrine was the Supreme Court's decision in 1974 that both formally established executive privilege and ruled that Nixon could not hide criminal behavior behind it. The contents of Nixon's White House tapes ultimately ended his presidency.

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Trump already invoking Executive Privilege to shut Bannon down

cause this is what innocent people who have nothing to hide do LOL

Won't work...Mueller operates under the same branch of government as Trump (executive).  I expect Bannon to really go after Kushner (Javanka)!  

Axios said executive privilege probably wouldn’t apply to the Mueller interview, because Mueller himself is working for the executive branch. 

Bannon “can say whatever the hell he wants to say to [Mueller] about whatever topic that he wants,” a source familiar with Bannon’s thinking told Axios.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bannon-mueller-cooperate_us_5a5f37ace4b0ee2ff32c0056?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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Former Trump Aide’s Fiancee Warns White House: ‘A Lot To Come’

Simona Mangiante is engaged to George Papadopoulos, and they’ve both cooperated with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/papadopoulos-fiancee-speaks_us_5a669c71e4b0e5630072d8a5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


oh

and remember that memo that is going to be "worse than Watergate" ?

you know the one the Repub's said would shut Mueller down?

now slime ball David Nunes is refusing to release it

LOL !!!


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NYT: Trump tried to fire Mueller but was blocked by his White House counsel

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/25/1736066/-NYT-Trump-tried-to-fire-Mueller-but-was-blocked-by-his-White-House-counsel

yeah
'cause Trump is innocent LOL
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BREAKING: Devin Nunes Altered His Memo, After The Committee Approved It’s Release

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/31/1737761/-BREAKING-Devin-Nunes-Altered-His-Memo-After-The-Committee-Approved-It-s-Release

LOL !!!

drain the swamp ???

hahaha

SUCKERS !!!
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NYT: Ex-Trump Legal Spokesman to Tell Mueller of Flagrant Obstruction by Trump & Hope Hicks

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/31/1737752/-NYT-Ex-Trump-Legal-Spokesman-to-Tell-Mueller-of-Flagrant-Obstruction-by-Trump-amp-Hope-Hicks

if Lil' Donnie's" Trump " card is that big scary memo
he better release it SOON LOL !!! LOL
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Well, Well, Well: Nunes Admits the Partisan Origins of the Dossier *Had* Been Disclosed After All


https://www.redstate.com/patterico/2018/02/05/well-well-well-nunes-admits-the-partisan-origins-of-the-dossier-had-been-disclosed-after-all/

Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009



well golly gee whiz ain't this a surprise LOL


Nunes caught lying AGAIN


IF Trump is innocent

then WHY is he and EVERYONE associated with him LYING

again and again and AGAIN ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Newly Obtained Docs Show Trump And His Mouthpiece Sanders Flat-Out Lied About Why Comey Was Fired.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/5/1738889/-Newly-Obtained-Docs-Show-Trump-And-His-Mouthpiece-Sanders-Flat-Out-Lied-About-Why-Comey-Was-Fired

the LIES Trump and his stooges tell are just not going to ever stop
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Nunes Forced to Admit: The FBI Didn’t Lie (so Where’s Their Apology?)

https://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2018/02/06/nunes-forced-admit-fbi-didnt-lie-wheres-apology/

The wailing ridiculousness of Trump’s lackeys, that this would be bigger than Watergate, people were going to prison, the world was about to stop spinning on its axis… none of that happened, nor will it.


this whole memo things REEKS of desperation on Trumps part

what a sad,pathetic attempt to evade the truth

he IS guilty



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and the lies and the obfuscation from the Trump administration CONTINUE
golly gee whiz
what a surprise !!!

Bannon refuses to answer anything but Trump-approved questions, House considering contempt

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741684/-Bannon-refuses-to-answer-anything-but-Trump-approved-questions-House-considering-contempt
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TrumpRussia News: Rick Gates might be getting a plea deal.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741784/-TrumpRussia-News-Rick-Gates-might-be-getting-a-plea-deal

uh oh
ANOTHER plea deal
ALWAYS bad news for someone higher up in the food chainLOL
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Jared Kushner's Finances Are In Shambles And He's A Threat To National Security
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741765/-Jared-Kushner-s-Finances-Are-In-Shambles-And-He-s-A-Threat-To-National-Security

as they say "FOLLOW THE MONEY"
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Mueller indicts 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies for interfering in 2016 election

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/16/1741984/-DOJ-indicts-thirteen-Russian-nationals-and-three-Russian-companies-for-interfering-in-2016-election

and yet Trump continues to insist the Russians are not involved ?????????
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Thirteen Russians criminally charged for interfering in US election, Mueller announces

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Thirteen Russians have been criminally charged for interfering in the 2016 US election to help Donald Trump, the office of Robert Mueller, the special counsel, announced on Friday.

Mueller’s office said 13 Russians and three Russian entities, including the notorious state-backed “troll farm” the Internet Research Agency, had been indicted by a federal grand jury in Washington DC.

A 37-page indictment alleged that the Russians’ operations “included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton,” his Democratic opponent.

Mueller alleged that Russian operatives “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign”, but the indictment did not address the question of whether anyone else in Trump’s team had knowingly colluded.

Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, said at a press conference in Washington: “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge.” Rosenstein added that the charges did not mean the Russian activity had an effect on the outcome of the election.

The Russians allegedly posed as Americans to operate bogus social media accounts, buy advertisements and stage political rallies. They stole the identities of real people in the US to post online and built computer systems in the US to hide the Russian origin of their activity, according prosecutors.

“This indictment serves as a reminder that people are not always who they appear to be on the internet,” said Rosenstein. He alleged that the Russians had “worked to promote discord in the United States and undermine public confidence in democracy,” adding: “We must not allow them to succeed.”

The charges state that from as far back as 2014, the defendants conspired together to defraud the US by “impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of government” through interference with the American political and electoral processes.

One defendant, Yevgeniy Prigozhin, is accused of using companies he controlled – including Concord Management and Consulting, and Concord Catering – to finance the operations against the US. The operation at one stage had a monthly budget of $1.25m, according to Mueller, which paid for operatives’ salaries and bonuses.

Events were organised by Russians posing as Trump supporters and as groups opposed to Trump such as Black Lives Matter, according to prosecutors. One advertisement shortly before the election promoted the Green party candidate Jill Stein, who is blamed by some Clinton backers for splitting the anti-Trump vote.

In August 2016, Russian operatives communicated with Trump campaign staff in Florida through their “@donaldtrump.com” email addresses to coordinate a series of pro-Trump rallies in the state, according to Mueller, and then bought advertisements on social media to promote the events.

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At one rally in West Palm Beach, a Russian operative is even alleged to have paid Americans to build a cage on a flatbed truck and to have an actor posing as Clinton in a prison uniform stand inside.

One defendant, Irina Kaverzina, is accused of admitting her involvement in the operation and a subsequent coverup in an email to a relative in September last year, after Mueller’s inquiry had begun. “We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity,” Kaverzina allegedly wrote, “so I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with the colleagues.”

The Russians are also accused of working to suppress turnout among ethnic minority voters. They allegedly created an Instagram account posing as “Woke Blacks” and railed against the notion that African Americans should choose Clinton as “the lesser of two devils” against Trump.

In early November 2016, according to the indictment, the Russian operatives used bogus “United Muslims of America” social media accounts to claim that “American Muslims [are] boycotting elections today.”

Following Trump’s victory, the Russian operation promoted allegations of voter fraud by the Democratic party, according to Mueller’s team. Around that time, Trump repeatedly claimed without evidence that he would have won the popular vote if not for large-scale voter fraud.

The individuals charged are Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov, Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik, Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova, Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva, Sergey Pavlovich Polozov, Maria Anatolyevna Bovda, Robert Sergeyevich Bovda, Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly, Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev, Gleb Igorevitch Vasilchenko, Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin and Vladimir Venkov.

All were charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States. Three defendants were charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants were charged with aggravated identity theft.

Separately, Mueller’s office announced that Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, California, had pleaded guilty to identity fraud. Pinedo, 28, admitted to running a website that offered stolen identities to help customers get around the security measures of major online payment sites. It was not made clear whether his service had been used by the Russian operatives.

Rosenstein said no contact had been made with Russian authorities regarding the charges so far, but that US officials intended to seek extradition of the defendants.

US intelligence agencies previously concluded that Russians mounted an attack on the US election system aimed at electing Donald Trump to the presidency.

Mueller is conducting a criminal inquiry into interference by Russians and possible collusion by Trump’s campaign. Two Trump campaign advisers have pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Two others have been charged with federal crimes.

US investigators have long signalled their belief that Prigozhin, a 56-year-old billionaire businessman, is behind Russia’s internet troll factories.

Nicknamed the “Kremlin’s chef”, Prigozhin once ran Putin’s favourite restaurant in St Petersburg, after which he was awarded multi-billion pound state catering contracts.

He provided catering for Dmitry Medvedev’s presidential inauguration in 2008, and also has lucrative contracts to feed Russia’s army and Moscow’s schoolchildren.

Prigozhin, who has also been linked to the Wagner Group, a shadowy Kremlin-linked private military contractor believed to be operating in Syria, was included on a US sanctions list in July.

Speaking to the RIA Novosti state news agency on Friday, Prigozhin said: “The Americans are really impressionable people, they see what they want to see. I have great respect for them. If they want to see the devil – let them see him.”

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova called the allegations “absurd”.

“13 people carried out interference in the US elections? 13 people against special services with a budgets of billions?” she wrote in a Facebook post.

Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Russian media he had not yet had a chance to study the indictments.


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So far this is not blaming Trump, but....

"Thirteen Russians have been charged with interfering in the US 2016 election, in a major development in the FBI investigation.

Three of those named have also been accused of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and five have been accused of aggravated identity theft."http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43092085


It seems they had a a budget of over $1 million/month to work on social media and other platforms.

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It's easier to fool people,than to get them to accept that they have been fooled.....
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Honestly, I think this is designed to buy time and silence the calls to fire Mueller. His team is top heavy with people who's field of expertise is in money laundering. This is not what they're concentrating on, but it is significant in it's implications concerning the election.

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It looks to me as if the question of Russian electoral influence is clearly answered. - YES!  There sure was!

However, much as I dislike and mistrust Trump, there is no proof (yet) of his collusion,- at least no definitive proof.  Although I personally doubt his innocence, it is only fair to give him the benefit of said doubt; at least unless/until real concrete proof emerges.  I know he looks as dirty as sin, but that is appearance - not proof.
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if Chump didnt Know,

why would the Ruskis want him as president ?

what would they gain by having a buffoon runing the USA............ 
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Too many secret meetings with Russian officials, and too many shady dealings involving Russian mob money in the past to give Trump a pass yet.

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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
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So this is what we know...  Russian companies spent around a million dollars a month to buy political influence.   Even so there is no distinct pro trump quality to it.... they just wanted to create chaos.  Hillary spent a billion dollars so this Russian program was  just chump change.    The DNC leaks where probably an inside job.   There was no collusion according to Muller his report states that no Americans knowingly helped the Russians.   Nobody alleges that the vote count was altered or manipulated in any way. 

The whole purpose of this conspiracy was not to get Trump elected, it is a simple continuation of a long term soviet goal of getting Americans not to trust their political system.   With all the hysteria from the media and dems I think this plan  has been far more successful than they could have hoped for.

As a matter of fact I expect this whole thing to go away soon... way to many democrats have dirty hands in this...    nobody wants a full investigation.
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That sounds a lot like what Fox News knows. There's much more to this story than a few bullet points.

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Trump Will Not Act Against Russia Because He Is Very Likely Being Blackmailed By Russia.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/17/1742323/-Trump-Will-Not-Act-Against-Russia-Because-He-Is-Very-Likely-Being-Blackmailed-By-Russia

"All in all, the odds are disconcertingly high that Russia, or somebody, has blackmail leverage over the president of the United States."

Trump and all those around him have done nothing but LIE and obfuscate on this issue since day one
IF your not guilty of something THEN why all the LIES ???

Trump REPEATEDLY said he had nothing to do with the Russians
even his own sons have contradicted him on this

we DO KNOW that the Russians did indeed meddle in the election
this is an established FACT at this point
Trump has said from day one that NO this is not the case
and now he denies saying this ???

Trump refused to invoke further sanctions against Russia
WHY ???

it certainly appears someone has something on him

Mr. Trump
IF your not guilty
then STOP LYING

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"That sounds a lot more like what Fox News knows. There's much more to this story than a few bullet points."

talking points is exactly right
and incorrect ones at that LOL
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Trump: I Never Said Russia Did Not Meddle in Our Election. Reality: Your Pants Are on Fire

https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2018/02/18/trump-never-said-russia-not-meddle-election-reality-pants-fire/


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The internet, while often used as a tool to make people think they’re experts in fields they are not, does provide a functional way for people to check on whether somebody else is lying or not.

And President Trump is lying."


gee

ya think LOL

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I honestly want to know, for those saying that Trump colluded what did trump get from it?    Like I said that million dollars a month they spent was like pissing in the ocean, the DNC leaks by all accounts really does seem be an inside job, maybe the Russians were responsible for the Podesta emails I don't know.  Even so the emails didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.... I don't think they swayed many people.

How did Trump benefit from any of this?

Edit: I will concede that perhaps Trump could have been duped but I don't see any motivation for him to be willingly involved.
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Let me put it much simpler.... Trumps own resources VASTLY exceeds those given to these meddling efforts.  If he thought any thing they where doing was useful.... he could have easily paid for it himself and had no toxic associations.   He didn't need the Russians.
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Trump likes to win.  He probably wanted to win the presidential race even more than he wanted to be President. 

His money, influence and, most importantly, his media-savvy made him almost incapable of losing.  But almost is not certainty and he would have wanted certainty.

That does not mean he colluded, but it does give him motive.
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whats the lesson here .......

the internet is not safe,

elections should be  a cross in a box on a balot paper, forget machines,

and FOES will try and destroy democracy,

 by ANY MEANS............

maybe we woke up to the danger now ,

Trump is just the stooge in all of this its way over his head..............

and it has been going on long before Chump and his sideshow appeared............
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Technophobe so are you arguing that 1 million dollars a month offered Trump "certainty"?  LOL like I said the Russian effort was like pissing in the ocean.
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No, DeepThinker, not certainty, but a small step closer to it.
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SOURCE: Rick Gates To Plead Guilty And Agrees To Testify Against Manafort


https://crooksandliars.com/2018/02/source-rick-gates-plead-guilty-and-agrees


and do I really need to explain the fallacy of this argument ???

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