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    Posted: April 30 2022 at 9:09pm

[url][/url] or ; Dystopia (from Ancient Greek δυσ- "bad, hard" and τόπος "place"; alternatively cacotopia[2] or simply anti-utopia) is a speculated community or society that is undesirable or frightening.[3][4] It is often treated as an antonym of utopia, a term that was coined by Sir Thomas More and figures as the title of his best known work, published in 1516, which created a blueprint for an ideal society with minimal crime, violence and poverty. The relationship between utopia and dystopia is in actuality not one simple opposition, as many utopian elements and components are found in dystopias as well, and vice versa.

DJ In a democracy people elect representatives to work on their behalf-for the public interests. This Politics (from GreekΠολιτικάpolitiká, 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals, such as the distribution of resources or status.

In the "west" we had once the hope governments would function well enough for the general well being to provide us a future...

Of course it was not perfect, far from it...but we did get far...

Kicking the can down the road, in the hope time would offer a (better, more fitting) solution is what humans can and may do in complex matters...Maybe not "unwise" even...


When time has to solve to many problems because politics fail a crisis is to be expected. 

With many problems you end op with many crises...not just one.

-We had fiat-currency; based on "future growth-money"...It did work once...

-"Progress" did see us-most of us-driving in cars, flying in planes...

-Climate "change" was the outcome...[url][/url] or the "best options left" are damage control...

-On top of that-but related-diseases did create more crises; [url][/url] or 

-Now we face a global war-[url][/url] or ;

Minister Sergei Lavrov had once again detailed how the Americans “no longer insist on the implementation of international law, but on respect for the ‘rules-based world order’. These ‘rules’ are not deciphered in any way. They say that now there are few rules. For us, they don’t exist at all. There is international law. We respect it, as does the UN Charter. The key provision, the main principle is the sovereign equality of states. The U.S. flagrantly violates its obligations under the UN Charter when it promotes its ‘rules’”.

Lavrov had to stress, once again, that the current incandescent situation may be compared to the Cuban Missile Crisis: “In those years, there was a channel of communication that both leaders trusted. Now there is no such channel. No one is trying to create it.”

The Empire of Lies, in its current state, does not do diplomacy.

DJ The outcome will be [url][/url] or ...The US claims to have a "right of first use" now involved in yet another regime change save its "fiat currency" $...

At the end it does not matter from wich country the nuclear weapon did come-when it is killing you...

This dystopia is presented as a "new normal"; "we are good, they are bad"...

DJ-I hope to be very wrong ! Maybe I am just crazy...."normal is what most people do" [url][/url] or ; when most adults smoke-you do not "you want to be different"....If most people want "total war" and you think that is insane...sorry...war is "the norm"; peace is "abnormal"....

I write this, maybe as a sort of warning...hope to find some has become a "desert" (not only on this forum) ...full of "zombies"...

A "real nightmare"....

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Three years ago I did not expect to see a CoViD-pandemic...We have had SARS-1, I expected a possible corona-virus-disease would be detected even earlier...we had been warned...Well I was wrong...'economy first"-economic (short term) interest; profit has become a top-priority over public health...

Half a year ago I did not expect a NATO-Russia war...well-we are in fact in such a war.... I hesitate...I do not want to believe "we" as humans will "go nuclear"....on the other hand we are NOT stopping climate change, denying the pandemic...downplaying the risks for nuclear war...

How to deal with that ? 

So far I was able to "put the bad news in a box" and put it aside...(that is what I use this once-a-forum for..). YES-I know there are lots of terrible stories...not denying them, not willing to ignore their warning...But I also "have a life to live"...

One option I now have is to "create more distance"...Go and enjoy nature, good food (I love good food !), the "good things" still within my reach..knowing I am very privileged to be in such a position. 

Following the "bad news" should not destroy me...

YES-There should be far more public action against "insanity as a new normal"...I am in a "fool-on-the-hill" position, an observer...not the best person to "mobilize the masses"..

I find it very hard to understand a "human aspect" in history. Why are people willing to kill other people ? I fail to get that part...[url][/url] or ...

When I was born the town I live in was still recoviring from the [url][/url] or -the destruction W.W.2 did bring...People lived in emergency housing...made out of the ruins of the pre-battle town. 

I did hear and read the horror stories of those that did see the war; the terror of shelling-people in the basement of their houses-running for safety when fires started...How illness and starvation did kill tens-of-thousends here in NL in the winter of 1944-45...

If we are not willing to face history how we are ever going to learn from it ? 

[url][/url] or ;Biden, $33B for Ukraine. Ministry of Truth, USA. Poland exercises. Elensky UK citizen. Update 1 Topic 519

Alex Christoforou (als) wondering if biden is insane...

[url][/url] or AP;Nearly 400 people in the Kharkiv region alone have been detained under anti-collaboration laws enacted quickly by Ukraine's parliament and signed by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after Russia's February 24 invasion.

Major "crime" is being ethnic Russian...

[url][/url] or Western media/elite "nazi's are okay"...

[url][/url] or ;U.S. Congress continues to funnel money and weapons to the Azov Regiment, a neo-nazi-run paramilitary in Ukraine. This is not some fringe group but rather a major part of Ukraine's military. 🚨 We're being censored, and it's more important than ever to have a home away from these big tech oligarchs. That's why we built Please come on over and sign up for FREE, so we always have a way to stay in touch. 🚨

DJ, censorship is a new normal..."the we-say-so society" room for other views...on anything...

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A few points;

1. [url][/url] or ;

In 1956, Phillip Cagan wrote The Monetary Dynamics of Hyperinflation, the book often regarded as the first serious study of hyperinflation and its effects[5] (though The Economics of Inflation by C. Bresciani-Turroni on the German hyperinflation was published in Italian in 1931[6]). In his book, Cagan defined a hyperinflationary episode as starting in the month that the monthly inflation rate exceeds 50%, and as ending when the monthly inflation rate drops below 50% and stays that way for at least a year.[7] Economists usually follow Cagan's description that hyperinflation occurs when the monthly inflation rate exceeds 50% (this is equivalent to a yearly rate of 12874.63%).[5]

The International Accounting Standards Board has issued guidance on accounting rules in a hyperinflationary environment. It does not establish an absolute rule on when hyperinflation arises, but instead lists factors that indicate the existence of hyperinflation:[8]

  • -The general population prefers to keep its wealth in non-monetary assets or in a relatively stable foreign currency. Amounts of local currency held are immediately invested to maintain purchasing power;
  • -The general population regards monetary amounts not in terms of the local currency but in terms of a relatively stable foreign currency. Prices may be quoted in that currency;
  • -Sales and purchases on credit take place at prices that compensate for the expected loss of purchasing power during the credit period, even if the period is short;
  • Interest rates, wages, and prices are linked to a price index; and
  • -The cumulative inflation rate over three years approaches, or exceeds, 100%.

DJ, So on average 3x33,3%+ years of inflation would mean "hyperinflation".  Maybe a year-to-year inflation of 30%+ -for a shorter time-could be considered as "early hyperinflation"? 

Most of the "west" is on its way to [url][/url] or; In a 1974 The New York Times article, Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics Julius Shiskin suggested several rules of thumb for defining a recession, one of which was two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth.[6] In time, the other rules of thumb were forgotten. Some economists prefer a definition of a 1.5-2 percentage points rise in unemployment within 12 months

In the United Kingdomrecessions are generally defined as two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth, as measured by the seasonal adjusted quarter-on-quarter figures for real GDP.[4][5] The European Union does not use this definition, instead using a range of other criteria such as employment rate and the depth of decline in economic activity

there is not a 100% definitive and clear definition..."politics" play with numbers (tax) when there is an election coming. 

[url][/url] or

Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative to the amount that could be produced using current resources and technology (potential output).[2] Another proposed definition of depression includes two general rules:[3][4]

  1. a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or
  2. a recession lasting 2 or more years.

There are also differences in the duration of depression across definitions. Some economists refer only to the period when economic activity is declining. The more common use, however, also encompasses the time until the economic activity has returned close to normal levels.[1]

DJ, biden wants to destroy Russia...So "we' are already in a total economic war. 

[url][/url] or  (DJ-I do not believe in "a great reset"...[url][/url] or in such a very divided world-I do believe in "collapse of fiat currencies"...).

[url][/url] or on a global scale will be a "great reset" resulting in economic disaster...

DJ-So even without a single shot fired countries "can kill eachother/the world" in an economic war. [url][/url] or  and [url][/url] or Bernhard was an exercise by Nazi Germany to forge British bank notes

"digital money" is asking for "digital economic warfare"....

2. [url][/url] or The US nuclear bombs used against Japan in august 1945 are "small" compared with what is possebile/available now...Not only did the Russian Television network show this to the entire country, but they went even farther . . . finally admitting what has long been rumored about Russia having developed a 100 MEGA-ton nuclear drone torpedo.    Look at what the Russian people were told on their TV's tonight: Plunge Britain into the sea by Tsunami from a nuclear torpedo drone!

DJ, Weapons "strong enough" to wipe out countries in one strike...MAD [url][/url] or was meant to avoid total wars...not to fight them...

DJ-I am NOT neutral, I blame biden...the US for seeking "regime change" in Moscow...For pushing weapons towards Ukraine fascist to start an offensive meant to kill as many ethnic Russians in (the east of) Ukraine-planned to start end of february-Russia stopped that. 

So if we want to get out of this MAD-ness "regime change" in the US/NATO is needed...Somehow the "political elite" seems to be unable to understand what they did start...YES War can destroy this planet, kill us all...You do not have to like eachother...maybe not seeing eachother that much is a better alternative...

3. [url][/url] or ; This book is based on the famous experiments conducted by Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram, which concluded that given an adjusted, controlled environment, most of us will act in a manner at total odds with our normal behavior patterns. Dr. Hans Askenasy agrees with these findings, and presents, with compelling logic and scholarship, a most disquieting view: that the Nazis who carried out the murder of six million Jews were neither sadists, madmen or monsters. Most of us would like to think they were, for then the responsibility for the atrocities they committed could be placed upon a special class of criminals or lunatics essentially different from the rest of us. Auschwitz could not, we like to believe, have happened here--yet it is psychologically easy to ignore responsibility when one is only an intermediate link in a chain of evil. The author concludes that the main cause of large-scale destructiveness is not individual criminality, but social abnormality--a collective madness which we do not fully understand and with which we have not yet come to terms.--From publisher description.

DJ, What does a person change from a friendly neighbour into "the killer next door" ? As happened in most civil wars ....Do we have (to have) a "moral compass" stopping us from doing things we may regret the rest of our lives ? 

Fact is-most of us seem to be "following" not "thinking" enough for themselves...I see myself as a pacifist-but when loved ones are in danger (including pets)or vulnerable are at risk (small children, the old) I do not know what I would do...

I was very lucky so far not to have lived in a war-zone...

Some questions to start of the first week in may...stay safe...

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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