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Posted: October 24 2006 at 2:39pm |
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Has anyone else seen or heard what this might be?? I can't translate but it looks serious what ever it is.
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Your link above says 18 infected. I googled it and can't find anything yet.
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CL,
The 18 infected is what caught my eye, I'm going to a cubscout pack meeting tonight and a father of a boy in our den is from Hungary and I hope he can still read his native language well enough to give me an idea of what this is all about. I hope to have some info in a couple hours.
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it looks like food posioning
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Dennis, My friend said the same thing. He said the story says the 18 people all were at a party and got ill. Some are very sick with stomach cramps, vomiting and diarrhea. It is interesting though that the story made the alert page. |
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Cruiser, sometimes I have wondered what I think you are wondering. Certainly there are countless small groupings of people that suddenly get sick where it turns out to be food poisoning. Yet this made the alert page as you pointed out. Are some of these folks on such high alert because they have more information than we do and know to expect a serious outbreak of h5n1 in people at any moment? I don't know of too many people or professions that are on top of things, even things they specialize in. Yet, these people seem to have been on top of this. Look up the region on Google. These foks in Hungary have problems. A lot of them. I find it almost impossible to believe that they would be on top of it unless they had reason to believe it more serious than what we know here in the states. I'm not saying that their government has been telling them secrets on the side so much as I suggest they get the real scoop from the neighbor up the road who gets it from their cousin on the other side of the mountain range. Am I making any sense? |
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stomach cramps, vomiting and diarrhea.
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I think food poisoning happens quickly...sooner than they might become ill with influenza after attending a party.
But we don't have the facts on the timing...
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CabinLass,
I guess we are conditioned here to not take any chances - which is good I think. We only have to think back to this summer when an entire family in Indo became "infected" with actual bird flu which has turned out to be the most recongized incident of H2H AVI. The world is a ticking time bomb and we are right in the middle of Flu Season. My friend who translated the story said he wasn't exactly sure of the cause or source. Also, we have seen other stories surface over infections that are already 2 weeks old so this story still has some potential until we get the full details.
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The neighboures Ukraine have a problem , popped up on RSOE , no details only 2 men .
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Ya, this is a weird alert: Two men sick and that's it!
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Sheesh, I know this is getting to much for my mind to digest. Just what is up? I can't believe that Hisz. alerts would put up a report of pickle poisoning, but now even worse, babies are dying! I just keep telling myself not to panic, I have food... and will do what I can. Many more alerts like this though and I might feel very different; as I would think many other will too.
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Hungary Veszprem 10/11/06 10 people sometype of epidemic . Number 18 mentioned . Epidemic Hazard - Europe
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Been going thru Hungary 's newspapers trying to find info on latest RSOE Harvaria Alert 10/11/06 there , only turned up this so far . Drug-resistant TB causes concern in Hungary - paper |
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It's at a Hospital , well the report is . 12/11/06 60 people .
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Nov 10, 2006: 10 people infected...........Nov 12, 2006: 60 people infected. What is this?! |
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If ignorance is bliss, what is chocolate?
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Does anyone know if there will be a translation on this latest rsoe report = 60 infected ?
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The Nov 10th post I picked out the word dysenteria-gyanús "dysentary"?? and am having scouts at my house on Tues and may be able to have the Hungarian born father try to translate again.
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Hungary dated 8th November
TUBERCULOSIS, MULTIRESISTANT - HUNGARY *************************************** A ProMED-mail post <http://www.promedmail.org> ProMED-mail is a program of the International Society for Infectious Diseases <http://www.isid.org Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 From: ProMED-mail <promed@promedmail.org> Source: Caboodle [edited] <http://www.caboodle.hu/nc/news/news_archive/single_page/article/11/three_hungar/?cHash=14adff50db> Three Hungarians have been quarantined after becoming infected with an untreatable [see comment below] strain of tuberculosis, index.hu reports. However, the situation is yet to develop into an epidemic. The WHO and the Red Cross say a serious epidemic is threatening Europe as a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis is spreading on the continent. According to the organizations, there have not been this many untreatable cases of the illness since the World War II. In related news, Hungary will not be able to buy new machines for its lung screening stations, because it has not been successful in winning a Norwegian tender for development of this area. The average age of equipment used at Hungary's 160 lung screening stations is 15 to 20 years. -- ProMED-mail http://www.promedmail.org/pls/promed/f?p=2400:1000 |
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more happening in Hungary. This time in Nyul Hungary
they say it is not bacterial. It is effecting 50 children(?) in day nurseries.
I don't know how a non-bacterial "food posioning" can get around between so many different cities.
The last line says something about being intimidated by the offical. (not sure of the translation.
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I have never seen so many types of illness in such a large porportion.
I wonder if the illnesses are being mistakin for something else. Or if they are just covering up what it really is. I also was wondering why rsoe site has no more bird flu birds on it like it use to. Cause the bf hasn't gone away. But the bf birds have? Something isn't right. But on a good note: I quit smoking cigerettes thought if i get the flu I wouldn't have a chance if i had lungs full of crap from smoking....Wish me luck...cause I haven't picked up a cig in a week. Bird flu was just the thing to get me to quit!!!! |
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Birdlady,
Awesome and way to go on kicking the habit. Try deep breathing 10 slow breaths when you get the urge - be strong, good luck.
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Epidemic - Europe
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Hungary anyone feel like a read . Here's some links for media We have a storm coming expect to loose power so better turn off old faithful here .
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16/11/06 3 events
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Personally, I think this is part of a strain of a pesky Norovirus that is hitting hard in many places right now. 2 weeks ago a big outbreak in Toronto, other places everywhere reporting similar symptoms, now here in Hungary. Cruise ships everywhere are dealing with mass outbreaks of this! My 10 year old was down and out for 3 days with severe diarrhrea, stomach cramps, vomiting, low fever then 2 days later the wife goes down. Guy at work out 3 days and counting so far with same. (Midwest - Chicago area) Stock up on TP everybody it is not pretty!
This is good practice for the BF since this virus is very contagious and easily transmitted from direct hand to mouth contacts. Wash hands and any food prep surfaces especially the bathrooms and bedding of sick ones. Stay away from infected people for at least 3 days after symptoms disappear and don't let them prepare food for at least 3 days after symptoms go away. They can carry virus for up to 2 weeks! Wash hands, wash hands!!!
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The Neighbours Romania <no english> 21/11/06
The word Farmon mintegy ??? = ?? Recom has alot on Romania .
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Again 8 infected
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Just posted Hungary again 30/11/06 below now its the neighbours again , both 2nd time in a week span Romania 36 infected............
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Sertéspestissel contaminated beasts however the Hunyad departmental brute - constitutional authority staff one skittish truck farm. THE authority selves the moneybags proprietor értesítette aki she told me : the contaminated beasts one Contaminated beasts (chickens?) On a truck farm the authority told me the contaminated beasts, more than 50 of them, that were cremated. The authority interdicted the pork could not be sold in the total territory. The police helped http://visz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert.php?lang=eng Calicivírus - contagion show who the trials on Thursday Kaposváron , the Clamp Moorish Oktatókórházban ; yet eight diseased bizonyosodott be the contagion intimidated Papp Elizabeth , the contagious class-room managing főorvos. THE contagion in the hospital day-by-day graduated fertőzésvizsgálatat során unclouded light she added. Papp Elizabeth she told me : similar symptoms diarrhea , spewing by more also they complained the it had passed suns , the required trials but to everyone get. The yet eight excluding however másnál not show who the contagion. Fourteen diseased in the event of this has not been result intimidated THE contagion because of the medicine , the tendance sorts and the mozgásszervi rehabilitation Thursday visiting prohibitions I ordered off. Where could it have been , the sorts within különítették off the betegeket. Where this not tudták unlink , from there the contagious class led them. THE főorvos suppositions according to the virus , which otherwise the stool spreads , probably the guests hiked be in the hospital. stress the go-by important the fundamental hygienics rules observance s for it in the hospital megvannak the conditions. http://visz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert.php? langeng = ___ virus contagious, doing tests on Thursday. Eight diseased in (hospital?) the manager of the isolation ward, Papp Elizabeth, said. The contagion in the hospital graduated daily. Similar symptoms diarrhea, spewing (vomiting), for days. They did the required tests. Excluding the eight, however did not show where the contagion came from. 14 diseased have not been the results of the contagion because of medicine, tendance sorts and rehabilitation. She took off the visiting prohibitions on Thursday. Suppositions according to the virus, which otherwise the stool spreads, probably the guests hiked be in the hospital. Stresses the importance of fundamental rules of good hygiene and observing them in the hospital. Többtucatnyi impersonal referred be the it had passed suns the nagyváradi pest-house infections hepatitis symptoms. Sonia Drăghici , the institution their leader she told me , the refers plurality Mezőpetriből Albisról Szalárdről and Révből he has arrived. Mintegy fifty icterus diseased handles. Foremost of these romaic community he has arrived , but umpteen there are here the romatelepekkel limitrophe territories is intimidated the directress. That also she told me , the diseased mickle part of her initially that trusted influenzában or valamilyen other contagious sickness sweat. THE pácienseknek legkevesebb deca your day have to in hospital spends , but heavier in cases even thirty daily also the institution tarthatják them. http://visz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert.php? langeng = For days - pest house infections with hepatitis symptoms. Sonia Draghici, the head of the institution (hospital?) told me that several different diseases have arrived, (from many areas?). 50 ___ diseased handles Foremost of the Roman community This intimidated the directress. Originally she thought it was influenza or valamilyen or other contagious sickness sweat. The ___ (staff nurses, doctors?) have to spend their days in the hospital. Sometimes there are even thirty cases daily |
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k, wow---Thirdy cases daily? I sure wish I was a fly on the wall right now. Or, maybe thats not a good idea either.
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I don't know if a fly can get bird flu. I did get a little chuckle out of that though. Maybe a surveillance camera would be better .
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WEll you never know. ha Everything is so political, maybe we just never heard about it cause we're not supposed to. |
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Cruiser.... :) Good Call...
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rabbit haemorrhagic disease virus (RHDV) (see below how it spread.....)
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human SRSV-group II
porcine enteric calicivirus (PoCV) Ungrouped Caliciviruses canine calicivirus chicken calicivirus feline enteric calicivirus goldfinch calicivirus Guinea fowl calicivirus lion calicivirus mink calicivirus pheasant calicivirus walrus calicivirus white tern calicivirus Just like they use a bacteria
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Australian authorities deliberately spread
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Myxomatosis and several species of flea across Australia. Current research into viral vectored immunocontraception, which may eventually escape onto the Australian continent, gives great cause for concern. Many viruses are capable of crossing species lines as well as mutation and recombination. "No man is an island unto himself." - John Donne *********************************** No island is an island unto itself and no disease is an island unto itself. |
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Fleas,and flies may spread birdflu? Is that what im reading?
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Muriel...thanks for the translation
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"... infections with hepatitis symptoms. Sonia Draghici, the head of the institution (hospital?) told me that several different diseases have arrived, (from many areas?). 50 ___ diseased handles Foremost of the Roman community
This intimidated the directress. Originally she thought it was influenza or valamilyen or other contagious sickness sweat. The ___ (staff nurses, doctors?) have to spend their days in the hospital. Sometimes there are even thirty cases daily..." Seems to cover everything there is.... Chronic Hepatitis SymptomsAnxiety Arthritis Ascites (swelling in the stomach area) Blurred Vision Chills Dark Urine Decline in sex drive Depression Dizziness Dry Skin Edema (swelling of the hands, feet & legs) Excessive Bleeding Excessive gas Eye or eyesight problems (blurred vision or dry eyes) Fatigue Fever Flu-like symptoms Gallstones Gray, yellow, white or light colored stools Headaches Hepatalgia (pain or discomfort in liver area) Hot flashes Indigestion Inflammation in the joints Insomnia Irritability Itching Jaundice (yellowing of eyes and/or skin) Joint pain Mood changes or swings Memory loss, mental confusion Menstrual problems Muscle aches Nausea Rashes/Red spots Red palms Sensitivity to heat or cold Sleep disturbances Slow healing and recovery Susceptibility to illness/flu Sweating Vertigo Vomiting Water retention Weakness Weight gain Weight loss |
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"... infections with hepatitis symptoms. Sonia Draghici, the head of the institution (hospital?) told me that several different diseases have arrived, (from many areas?). 50 ___ diseased handles Foremost of the Roman community
This intimidated the directress. Originally she thought it was influenza or valamilyen or other contagious sickness sweat. The ___ (staff nurses, doctors?) have to spend their days in the hospital. Sometimes there are even thirty cases daily..." .................................................................................. Coronaviruses
also cause a range of diseases in farm animals and domesticated pets, some of which can be serious and are a threat to the farming industry. Economically significant coronaviruses of farm animals
include porcine coronavirus (transmissible gastroenteritis, TGE) and
Feline enteric coronavirus is a pathogen of minor clinical significance,
but spontaneous mutation of this virus can result in feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), a disease associated with high mortality.
Mouse Hepatitis Virus (MHV) is a coronavirus
that causes an epidemic murine illness with high mortality, especially among colonies of laboratory mice.
Prior to the discovery of SARS-CoV,
MHV had been the best-studied coronavirus
both in vivo and in vitro as well as at the molecular level.
Some strains of MHV cause a progressive demyelinating encephalitis in mice which has been used as a murine model for multiple sclerosis. Significant research efforts have been focused on elucidating the viral pathogenesis of these animal coronaviruses, especially by virologists interested in veterinary and zoonotic diseases.
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What do you call a fly without wings ?
A walk ...............
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From the 16th November Hungary reported by China ...................
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http://english.hotnews.ro/29-bird-flu-hotbeds-left-in-Romania-articol_43053.htm From Late June 2006
29 bird flu hotbeds left in Romania
The authority fighting the avian flue announced that 29 bird flu hotbeds are still to be extinguished in the counties of Brasov, Bacau, Buzau, Prahova, Arges, Ilfov, Ialomita, Giurgiu and Harghita, following the closing down of 14 hotbeds in the counties of Neamt, Mures, Alba, Iasi and Prahova. The authorities remain vigillant, while the Institute of Animal Health the vets continue to make lab analyses of the samples received from the local level.The National Veterinary Authority displays information on its site regarding the prevention of avian flue. HotNews.ro, Jun 27, 2006 ........................................................................................................................
Bird flu epidemic officially over in Romania July 31 less than 4 weeks later .
The last bird flu hotbed in Romania was officially dealt with by Sunday morning, the Agriculture Ministry in Bucharest has announced. But experts warn that while Romania got rid officially of the epidemic that led to the culling of hundreds of thousands of flock this spring the risk of new new hotbeds appearing is not over. Over 12,000 tests have been made to check whether the potentially deadly H5N1 bird flu strain appeared anywhere else in the country. The Agriculture Ministry also announced that Romanian vets were continuing their activities of supervision of wild and domestic bird flocks. And the Animal Health and Diagnosis Institute continues lab investigations over probes received from around the country. Some one million fowl were culled in the latest bird flu epidemic in Romania this year. HotNews.ro, Jul 31, 2006 http://english.hotnews.ro/Bird-flu-epidemic-officially-over-in-Romania-articol_43286.htm 16 weeks later ....................... 30/11/06 |
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The most recent is September BF news travelling back months from then .
One article reports 153 different areas of BF affected . Hot Beds as described . here is the link for the last few months
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Detection and isolation of highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza A viruses from blow flies collected in the vicinity of an infected poultry farm in Kyoto, Japan, 2004.
Department of Medical Entomology, National Institute of Infectious Diseases, Tokyo, Japan. sawabe@nih.go.jp During the outbreak of highly pathogenic avian influenza that occurred in Tamba Town, Kyoto Prefecture in 2004, a total of 926 flies were collected from six sites within a radius of 2.3 km from the poultry farm. The H5 influenza A virus genes were detected from the intestinal organs, crop, and gut of the two blow fly species, Calliphora nigribarbis and Aldrichina grahami, by reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction for the matrix protein (M) and hemagglutinin (HA) genes. The HA gene encoding multiple basic amino acids at the HA cleavage site indicated that this virus is a highly pathogenic strain. Based on the full-length sequences of the M, HA, and neuraminidase (NA) segments of virus isolates through embryonated chicken eggs, the virus from C. nigribarbis (A/blow fly/Kyoto/93/2004) was characterized as H5N1 subtype influenza A virus and shown to have > 99.9% identities in all three RNA segments to a strain from chickens (A/chicken/Kyoto/3/2004) and crows (A/crows/Kyoto/53/2004) derived during this outbreak period in Kyoto in 2004. Our results suggest it is possible that blow flies could become a mechanical transmitter of H5N1 influenza virus. PMID: 16896143 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] |
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Romania , one of their neighbours is the Ukriane and its the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea lapping Poland . And Cholera .
Cholera in the ocean ................. and fresh water and next door to Romania
Discussion In Europe, infections with V. cholerae non-O1, non-O139 serotypes are rare, and sporadic cases are generally reported. Experimental infections in healthy volunteers and data from gastroenteritis outbreak investigations indicate that the incubation period is 10 hours in volunteers and 12 to 24 hours in outbreaks. The median duration of illness ranges from 12 to 24 hours [3]. Symptoms of V. cholerae non-O1, non-O139 infection include gastroenteritis if large numbers of the bacteria enter the digestive tract, and wound infections. Septicaemia is also a possibility, especially in infected patients who are immunocompromised [1,2,3]. The atypically high temperatures in the summer of 2006 provided conditions favourable for the growth of Vibrio bacteria in the environment. During such hot summer, routine testing of water samples from bathing beaches should be extended to detect the presence of Vibrio, due to the increased level of bacteria in the water. Just some of the ref's..
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bird lady,,that is just awesome news!! keep up the good work!!
be proud of yourself
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