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Wasn’t that REM? |
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Posted: March 12 2020 at 6:28pm |
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By that same measure, assuming CFR is 3%...with 41 current US deaths, and considering 4 week infection to death timeline...that would mean about 41 x 100/3 = 1367 US infections around 4 weeks ago, so....assuming a 4 day doubling time from recent confirmed data, we'd have: 2/12 1,367 2/16 2,734 2/20 5,468 2/24 10,936 2/28 21,872 3/3 43,744 3/7 87,488 3/11 174,976 3/15 349,952 Which aligns pretty well with my 50k-250k previous estimate.. If assuming a doubling time of 5 days: 2/12 1,367 2/17 2,734 2/22 5,468 2/27 10,936 3/3 21,872 3/3 43,744 3/8 87,488 3/13 174,976 Logical, no? |
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Posted: March 12 2020 at 6:37pm |
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Yeah, my best estimate for current US infections today is 150,000... Given that,with 4.5 doubling, we'll have: 3/12 150,000 3/16 and a half 300,000 3/21 600,000 (HERE IS WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING EFFORTS MAY BECOME APPARENT) 3/25 and a half: 1.2 MILLION 3/30 2.4 MILLION Americans infected --- It looks like 600,000 US infected already ensured. At a minimum, I foresee 600,000 x.01 (1% due to likely undercount/undertesting) deaths = 6,000 deaths in next five weeks, only partial v. more complete shutdowns will lead to more deaths, probably see "only" 24,000 deaths within two months if we're lucky imo |
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Posted: March 12 2020 at 7:34pm |
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Perhaps the Ohio deaths are reported under other headings. People die all the time and particularly if they are elderly. Perhaps cause of death is organ failure, or respiratory failure. I once sat with an elderly relative as she died of extreme old age and the doctor, who told me she had died from old age, had to put heart failure on the death certificate as technically that was the last part of her that stopped working. There may be old people who die at home of respiratory failure or undiagnosed pneumonia (which was always called the old man's friend because it was a painless way to die) and when they've been found it's been put down as some form of organ failure. It's not like an autopsy is done on every one. |
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Posted: March 12 2020 at 7:46pm |
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Great point. In fact, that was exactly the experience in the Life Care (?) nursing home facility in WA. They had residents who died of "viral pneumonia" who were later found to be positive once they re-ran the samples once the cluster was discovered a week or two later. But if so, probably at the most, in the low dozens statewide or I'd think they'd find the cluster. |
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Posted: March 12 2020 at 8:30pm |
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US Numbers as of later evening 3/12... |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 5:28am |
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Here's the logic behind Ohio's 100K figure...basically, community spread they believe implies minimum 1% general pop.: 100,000 cases: estimate by Ohio state health director. “We know now, just fact of community spread, says that at least 1%, at very least, of our population is carrying this virus in Ohio today. We have 11.7 mil people. So math is over 100,000." #COVID19 |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 6:21am |
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It might be better to adjust that graph based on population to show a better representation. Or maybe use individual states such as CA, MA, NY, etc. |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 6:49am |
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Closely following the daily upticks in NY, I think BabyCat's chart is pretty accurate. Cases are rising exponentially and too fast for my comfort in the last week. That pink line set my neck hairs standing. |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 7:04am |
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Singapore has a population of 6 mil., US 300+ mil. So if you divided the US cases (2000) by 50, you'd come up with about 40 cases per 6 mil of population. The pink line would be on the bottom. If you plotted NY on that graph, it would have an almost identical line as Singapore, but lower on the graph once again. |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 8:09am |
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FYI The City of New York has a population of 8.3 million alone. The entire state has 19.4 million. |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 8:39am |
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I used 18 mil. for NY. so 3 times as large as Singapore. Simply divide NY case number by 3 and that would give you a comparable number based on population. |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 9:00am |
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Presidential emergency declaration under Stafford Act by 3pm EST by Pres. Trump. As predicted, by Tuesday. I thought it would be sooner, but said Tuesday to be safe. :) |
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Posted: March 13 2020 at 9:36am |
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That's my nap time. Darn! I'll miss it. I guess I'll just have to watch the round-up... |
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Today is March 16, currently 98,657 worldwide ex-China reported infections, will reach 100K in moments... Pretty close to projections - would have been by 12th-15th if S. Korea hadn't done such a great job in containment. Nevertheless, my projection weeks ago that we'd reach 100k between 12th and 20th was spot on (16th). Us at 4,289. We'll see when we reach 10,000. I had projected by 3/18 (end of day). I think we'll be pretty close, much of rise captured by increased testing capacity. May have time for more projections, may not. It's a dice roll now. Watch Italy. If they crest soon, a very good sign. Watch UK and their 'herd immunity' experiment. Could be a disaster, maybe not because many people will choose to socially distance themselves despite the lack of compulsion from government. |
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It might work, but I doubt it. Very glad I'm a prepper. VERY GLAD! |
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Posted: 7 hours 29 minutes ago at 1:21pm |
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100,498 reported worldwide ex-China infections. A milestone. Next stop: 1,000,000. Will project if I get time, but I seriously believe that with concerted efforts from many countries we can flatten and lengthen the curve. The Swedish and British approach to let it burn out in the young actually has some insane plausibility, but it's a risk that is just very, very high. Someone said that ID call "herd immunity" at the end "pack of survivors". You're on your own, if that's still not clear. It's the people that are ahead of the curve, leading the leaders. |
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BabyCat, I have been thinking about you. I would have PM’d you, but can’t figure out how to do it on here (I guess I should be named “TechnoInept! LOL). I’m glad you’re well. Thanks again for all of your hard work and sounding the alarm. |
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You're so sweet (as are most here...except AI ;) I'm fine - made a bold decision, maybe I'll share it someday. |
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You headed out of the city to a safer place far away?!?!? |
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If it's to be - it's up to me!
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Hmm...well, some say I have an uncanny knack for seeing the future. Read this Santa Clara County SIP Order. It's unlike anything I've ever seen. Necessary, for sure, but just, wow. Gee, someone who could have seen when that was coming could have made sure to prep ahead for every contingency.. ;). (looks back to prior posts on timing of mandatory SIP orders)... |
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Posted: 7 minutes ago at 8:43pm |
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US on track for 100k by 3/27 (+/2). However, while I expect social distancing measures to start having an effect, the lack of testing, and testing ramp up will balance that for a while, so the 100K projection looks pretty solid at this point. Remember Wuhan, then Hubei a day later, then rest of China a day after that, was locked down at about 800 cases and China leveled off around 80,000 up to now. The 1 million mark is an open question when and whether it will be reached. Depends on each and every one of us.
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