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    Posted: March 03 2007 at 3:58pm
    Hi there-

We LOVE homeschooling! Right now we have one in 8th grade level, one in 5th, one in 3rd, and one in 1st. When we had more than one child we decided private school was out and public school wasn't an option for us. Don't get me wrong, there are days that I want to pull out my hair! For the most part though, we have a good time with it. And yes, we plan on schooling all the way through. I can't imagine going to all this work to let the kids loose in a public high school. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them.

FYI- We made the decision to homeschool when our oldest was 3 1/2.
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    Thank you sooooo much! We are in the state that ranks dead last in it's child care regulations, and can't say too much more for the education system here. For various reasons, most of them ethical I am interested in homeschooling, so thank you!!!!!!
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I am too. How do you get your curriculum, or decide what to teach? Do you have a support system?
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ParanoidMom, I will help answer some questions if you would like,

We have been homeschooling for 16 years. We have graduated 2 children and have 2 more to go, currently in 5th grade and pre-k. My graduates are both in college, my dd finish her BS this summer in criminal justice and is currently internting for the DEA and my ds graduated with his AA this May and next year will be going to William and Mary.

We attend a homeschool convention each year to have a look at what is available as far as curriculuim goes. We also have a homeschool here that has used and new book. I like to go there because I can grab the books I'm interested in and sit down and really go throught them. With homeschooling there is a broad spectrum you can choose a very laid back approach - ex. for science go for a nature walk take pictures come back and draw pictures of what you saw or research what you saw ect. To a very rigid style very much like public school. You have a textbook, quizes, tests, even lesson plans are ready written out for you. You have to look are everything and decide what will fit you and your child.

When we started the first few years I was very rigid. I wanted to make sure I was covering everything I needed to. But as I got a few years and a little confidence under my belt I loosen up. It also helped that each year as my children took those standardized test they always scored well.

I am also the president of our local homeschool support group. And I would really encourage you to find a group.


    
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How do you handle socialization issues? I'm really torn on homeschooling verses school, and that's one of the biggies. I know that there's a lot of morality issues to homeschooling, but as I was a former HR manager, I saw firsthand the struggles people face in the real world when they're lacking real world people skills. Getting through school for some folks is bad, but if they can't learn to cope with the in-fighting, backstabbing and just plain meanness of folks in school, then they're learning it sometimes for real at their first jobs. At the same time some of them are learning the whole thing of love, or lack thereof and the desperateness of that, freedom, etc. So I'm lost a little in the "let them sink/swim now, while I can be there to help them float" and making it easy for them now by sheltering them and keeping them in my "sane" world VERSES sending them to school and just letting them cope with it all.

We're active in church, but as my kids are still pretty young, there isn't much socialization other than Sunday School. Playgroups don't do that much good either, as it's a natural selection process on my part - if the kids are mean to my kids, then we don't play, period. (I'm a hard#$! of "don't bite/kick/hit/push/grope/curse at my kids!!!")
    
    
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Homeschooling is fairly common around here, I know several people who have managed to socialize the kids in sports and after school activities, but I know it has to be a lot of work! My biggest fear is the education system in this area in particular--the schools are horrid! Sooooo I either save my pennies for private schooling or home school public school in this area is just not an option. Who knows what tomorrow will bring anyhow? I'm trying to teach my little ones by example, as they are so young, on how to behave--that may be the hardest lesson for me as well! LOL
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and next year will be going to William and Mary.
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hi... do you live in J. City County?
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but if they can't learn to cope with the in-fighting, backstabbing and just plain meanness of folks in school, then they're learning it sometimes for real at their first jobs.
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I'm not sure that would be the ideal situation for an intellectually uplifting
environment... for any child...  :O
 
 
Homeschooled children do not live and learn in isolation, just the opposite.
 
They take more nature, historical site trips, vacations, museum, library visits, park days, picnics, shopping excursions, precisely because they are not tied to an institution of same age mates day after day.... 
 
Education in the real world... all through childhood... is a beautiful and freeing experience.
 
 
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I worked in the private Christian school environment for many years.  The younger two boys of ours went through that same school from 4th & 5th grade through graduation; while our oldest boy went through public school through graduation.  The oldest boy was already a freshman in high school and did not want to leave when the others started private school.   This past year I helped to homeschool  my 5th grade grandson.  Having seen some of it all I can say that if I had it to do over again, I would homeschool in a minute!  I love the interaction of teaching/learning with the kids and love the Abeka Christian curriculum.   We did use another math curriculum (Saxon).  The local homeschool group is very active; field trips are held as well as a science fair.  Homeschooling is so rewarding, but does require a strong commitment as well as good organizational skills and discipline.
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Dixie,

We use Saxon and Abeka too.

Ann,

no, we live in Southampton Co.

4Abby,

Socialization, first I guess I should say I'm not a fan of socializing my children with only children their own age. Which is what most people mean when they say socializing. I don't think there is a lot one 5 yr, old can learn from another except how to be mean. Yes, they can play together but they already know how to do that. We socialize our children with a wide range of children and adults through our homeschool group, church, sports, and family and friends. And here is a few things I have noticed about homeschool children and in my children. They can talk with and enjoy a larger age range. It's nothing to see a 11th grader talking to a 7th grader or a 5th grader sitting and talking to an adult. Most children would never hang out with younger kids and they have nothing to say to adults. Another thing is my daughter was a follower and boy crazy, but by keeping her in a more sheltered environment. By the time she got a job at 16 or started college she had learned how to be a leader. She had developed her own style and had decided she didn't need to follow anyone. At 17 when she had her first boyfriend after he made a comment that he didn't need God, she decided she didn't need him. I know that  it would not have been that way if she had gone to public school.

So I really don't think that socialization is an issue.

Quite honestly I think the biggest problem I face with homeschooling is discipline. With myself and the children. I can handle the lesson plans, finding the books, everything. But there are days when it's tough to get out of bed and get going but it has to be done. My motto is school doesn't have to be fun it just has to be done. I try to make it fun but math can only be so fun, especially when you are struggling with it like my ds is now. It's tough to see them struggling and struggling and you have tried every way you can to explain it and they just don't get it. But that is also when something else wonderful happens after struggling one day everything will fall into place and he will understand it completely. Those are the days I love and one of the reasons I homeschool, It's like seeing them take their first steps as a baby. I don't want those great days to be given to some teacher I want to share them with my child.

That is something else that you will find. Your relationship with you children will change. It will get deeper, better, I can't explain it. But your bond will grow. Another great reason for homeschooling.

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I must say it's so nice to see pro-homeschooling people on this site.

When we first started homeschooling, we had desks, chalkboards, posters, you name it. We were going to make sure we had everything by the book. After a few years we figured out that we were simply copying what someone else's book said. The kids now, sort of, start out at the kitchen table and migrate from there. Some are flopped on the couch, some seek solitude in their room and (I love this one) the favorite spot is sitting on the deck on the outside swing in the sun. So much for desks!

We have tried many curricula over the past years. At this point we've settled on Abeka for reading and phonics (early grades), Saxon math, and everything else from Seton. A bit of a conglomeration. It works for us, but not necessarily for everyone else.

The biggest thing I'd say is try not to be overwhelmed. There's a lot of information out there. Try to find a family that's homeschooling to your style and ask questions. You've taught your children all of their lives up until they turn five (CA rules) and then the state comes along and say "We'll take it from here." I don't think so! You have the abilty. It's as it was intended.

As far as socialization goes, it can drive you to an early grave trying to keep up with the opportunities. Our kids have a choice of two things they can be involved in. Considering we have four in school years, that's a lot of choices. Luckily, we've combined a few. My oldest has Boy Scouts and trapshooting. The next in line has trapshooting and art. The two younger ones take the same art class.

Ask yourself how much "socializing" your child(ren) get in school. It's my understanding they are in school to learn things. They have two short breaks and a lunch-time. Pretty much the same thing as the average adult who goes to work everyday. All of their socializing is done "after school." If you become part of a group there are always opportunities for park days, outings and get-togethers. Good luck finding time to get the actual schoolwork done!

As it was mentioned, your relationship with your kids will definitely be different than anything you can imagine. All of a sudden you're the one they will seek advice from. They will learn they can rely on their parent to be the one there for them. Talk about a solid foundation! It doesn't get much better than that.

From the responses here it looks like you've found a great place to start with the questions. I'm personally enjoying all the answers as well.


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Lion... what age is your son?  Have you read what Dr. Moore says about the brain being reading for learning math?  (he spoke with a specialist)
I took note of it for when my child was older...and began Saxon Algebra/Geom combo at 15... got right up to speed and avoided yrs of tears :)
 
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I find that it's hard for parents to trust that it can happen...
 
when it's the right time to happen.
 
We parents need to get in there and.... make it happen.  :)
 
I decided to go with Dr. Moore's later is better.
 
no tests... (until 15...saxon, bio, chem, French)
 
no book reports   (too busy reading, drawing and talking about it)
 
writing was mainly, letters, making books, cards, posters, newsletters, newspapers were big when we got a computer.
 
 
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Thanks so much all for the help!! I knew I could count on the knowledgable people from this site to point me in the right direction!! Thanks so much, and blessings to you all!
    
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We used some of the curriculum mentioned here.  But not any one in it's
entirety.  We mostly attended L.E.A.H. but enjoyed other groups as well.
There is a homeschooling area here on Avian Flu Talk with all kinds of good ideas to read through. 
 
 
sorry....we Used to have.... a nice bit of info on homeschooling.
I'm not sure why it vanished?  It would have been helpful but just google it and a wealth of info will pop up.
 
This is all thats left...
 
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Ann,

My son struggling with math right now is in the 5th grade and it just getting everything solid and memorizing multiplication tables that he is struggling with.

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hi there...  we loved Family math.  Used m&m's etc... one type of game involved paper bags... that one stands out.  Even games meant for younger age we played if it looked like fun.
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Here is a story for you...
 
Tried the times table thing ..similar age, mine would give a look...
as if to say, are you serious? 
I tried the sing song tape etc.  
I'm a good mom, did my best.
Kid was bored to death with rote memorization...
not a bad sign.
Just now I called out...what's 8x8?    64   7x7?  "I don't know."
we are laughing...
kid has a 3.8 GPA... does not know times tables.   :)
 
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anyway... I like Amazon... all kinds of deals and I never wanted to pay full price.
 
 
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