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Swine flu deaths show this flu is different: experts

Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:17pm EDT
 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Autopsies on people who have died from the new pandemic H1N1 flu show this virus is different from seasonal influenza, even if it has not yet caused more deaths, experts told a meeting on Tuesday.

Americans who died from swine flu had infections deep in their lungs, Dr. Sherif Zaki of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told a meeting of flu experts, including damage to the alveoli -- the structures in the lung that deliver oxygen to the blood.

This in turn caused what is known as acute respiratory distress syndrome -- an often fatal development that leaves patients gasping for breath.

The World Health Organization has confirmed 3,205 deaths globally from swine flu but experts agree all estimates of the extent of the pandemic are grossly understated because so few patients are ever actually tested.

Seasonal flu kills, too -- about 250,000 to 500,000 cases a year globally, according to the WHO. But not in the same way as swine flu, which unlike seasonal flu frequently causes severe disease in young adults and children.

"It is very rarely you see what we call diffuse alveolar damage in fatal seasonal influenza," Zaki told a meeting sponsored by the U.S. Institute of Medicine, which advises government on health matters.

Seasonal flu causes bronchitis and other upper respiratory disease. But Zaki, the chief infectious disease pathologist at CDC, said the new virus had burrowed into the lungs of the 90 or so people he examined after they died, and they had huge amounts of the virus in their blood.

"This is almost exactly what we see with avian flu," Zaki said. "This looks like avian flu on steroids."

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Dr. Yoshi Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin said tests in monkeys showed the virus lives and replicates 1,000-fold better in the lungs than does seasonal flu.

He said the No. 1 drug of choice against H1N1 -- Roche AG's and Gilead Sciences Inc's Tamiflu -- lowered the so-called viral load of virus in the lungs just enough to help the body fight back.

Experimental flu drugs lower it even more, notably Daiichi Sankyo Co Ltd's CS 8958 and another drug called T-705 or favipiravir, made by Fujifilm Holdings Corp unit Toyama Chemical Co, Kawaoka said.

Zaki said 90 percent of the fatalities he looked at had some condition that would predispose them to serious disease. They had a median age of 38 and one victim was a two-month-old infant who died within a day of getting sick.

Nearly half -- 46 percent -- were obese, many had fatty liver disease, 27 percent had heart disease and 22 percent had asthma, he said.

Dr. Guillermo Ruiz-Palacios of Mexico's National Institute of Medical Sciences and Nutrition said many Mexican patients with severe disease were also obese. In addition, patients came in late for treatment and many were infected with a second common virus, called parainfluenza virus. 

 
Fewer than a third of the U.S. deaths, 29 percent, had a so-called secondary bacterial infection, usually Streptococcus pneumoniae, Zaki said.

Ruiz-Palacios also said the new virus can be found in the urine and feces of patients, something that may affect how it spreads.

(Editing by Cynthia Osterman)

 
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Originally posted by Glow Glow wrote:

Hi everyone....my daughter is in 6th grade  and has told me that she sees a lot of kids carrying around their hand sanitizer...so there is some good.  I made sure that my daughter has one bottle hanging on her book bag and one in her pencil  bag and one in her lunch bag....am I getting paranoid?.....also she said that many of her teachers have a big bottle on their desk.  The one thing I hate is that they go from class to class.  I think that as a safegaurd they could of made teachers move around for the time being .
 
You are not paranoid, my daughter has the same, andshe has told me some of her friends do as well. She also carries individual disinfectant wipes, to clean her work area.
 
 
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Originally posted by Mississippi Mama Mississippi Mama wrote:

I hired some help in my office last week. She was suppose to start yesterday. We talked on Mon. to confirmed she would be there. She said yest but everyone in her household had the swine flu, and was on tamiflu. The doctors gave her tamiflu too. She was willing and eager to to come to work. I told her to stay home and take care of everyone and we would talk in about a week. No way was I going to let her come in.
 
 
Smart move, no point in inviting it in.
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H1N1 Spreads Long After Fever Breaks  

SAN FRANCISCO �  When the coughing stops is probably a better sign of when a swine flu patient is no longer contagious, experts said after seeing new research that suggests the virus can still spread many days after a fever goes away.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been telling people to stay home from work and school and avoid contact with others until a day after their fever breaks. The new research suggests they may need to be careful for longer � especially at home where the risk of spreading the germ is highest.

Swine flu also appears to be contagious longer than ordinary seasonal flu, several experts said.

"This study shows you're not contagious for a day or two. You're probably contagious for about a week," said Gaston De Serres, a scientist at the Institute of Public Health in Quebec.

 
He presented one of the studies Monday at an American Society for Microbiology conference. It is the first big meeting of infectious disease experts since last spring's emergence of swine flu, which now accounts for nearly all of the flu cases in the United States. More than 1 million Americans have been infected and nearly 600 have died from it, the CDC estimates.

It is unclear whether the new research will lead the CDC to rethink its advice on how long people with swine flu should hole up. Long breaks from school and work do not seem worth it for a virus that now seems to cause mostly mild illness, said the CDC's flu chief, Nancy Cox. Swine flu is spreading so widely now that confining the sick does less good, she said.

"We tried to have our guidance balance out all of these factors," she said. "It's just virtually impossible not to have virus introduced into settings such as schools and universities."

Doctors know that people can spread ordinary seasonal flu for a couple of days before and after symptoms start by studying virus that patients shed in mucus. The first such studies of swine flu are just coming out now, and they imply a longer contagious period for the novel bug.

"It's probably realistic that this virus sheds much longer than seasonal flu," said Dr. Jonathan McCullers, an infectious diseases specialist at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn.

Three reports suggest this is so. De Serres and other researchers in Canada took nose and throat swabs from 43 patients with lab-confirmed flu and dozens of other sick family members.

On the eighth day after symptoms first appeared, 19 to 75 percent showed signs of virus remaining in their noses, depending on the type of test used.

"This proportion appears to be very big, and it is," but it's not clear how much virus is needed to actually spread flu, so the lower number is more reliable, he said.

Dr. David C. Lye reported on 70 patients treated at Tan Tock Seng Hospital in Singapore. Using a very sensitive test to detect virus in the nose or throat, he found that 80 percent had it five days after symptoms began, and 40 percent seven days after. Some still harbored virus as long as 16 days later. How soon they started on antiviral medicines such as Tamiflu made a difference in how much virus was found, but not whether virus was present at all.

A third report came from Dr. Guillermo Ruiz-Palacios of the National Institutes of Medical Science and Nutrition in Mexico, where the first cases of swine flu were detected.

Infected people "shed the virus for a very, very long time," often for more than a week after the start of symptoms, he told the conference. This was especially true of obese people, and patients who started on medicines longer than two days after symptoms first appeared.

The new reports suggest a longer contagious period for swine flu, but how long is not clear, Cox said. Even with it in your nose, "you might not be shedding enough virus to infect other people," she said.

That is why signs like coughing may matter more, De Serres said.

"Contagiousness varies, not only with the presence of the virus, but the other symptoms that would make you transmit," he said.

Swine flu symptoms can include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue, and sometimes diarrhea and vomiting. Young children may be cranky, less playful or not eat as much as normal, the CDC advises.

The agency's advice to stay home for a day after fever breaks does not apply to health care settings. There, confinement for seven days from the start of symptoms � or until they go away, whichever is longer � is still advised.

People who have had swine flu should cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze and wash their hands a lot once they do return to work and school, the CDC says.

 
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Mahshadin, this last post is really worisome indeed!!  They want kids to return to school anyways, instead of taking a few extra days after the fever subsides.  This is so unbelievable!!!! Now adults will for the most part comply with covering their mouths.  But for a minute think about elemantary school kids...they forget really easily and they sneeze all over the place, have running nose which they wipe with their hands.  A teacher has to deal with 20+ kids, its kind of unrealistic to expect one person to make sure kids are not spreading their germs.   Well, all I can't say is that I can't wait till Thanksgiving when all of this nightmare will hopefully be behind us. 
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Yes there does seem to be some relevent information being reported, its just sifting through it all Smile
 
Heres another good read from a year before things heated up.
 
Public Response to Community Mitigation Measures for Pandemic Influenza
 
20+ thats a good number, here it is 30+
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speaking of schools.....
 
 
 
 
Don't they come up with this same idea... every 5 yrs or so?
 
( I have friends who's children spent no time in school, and they are college grads)
 
 
 
 
More school: Obama would curtail summer vacation
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By LIBBY QUAID, Ap Education Writer - 1 hr 33 mins ago

 
WASHINGTON - Students beware: The summer vacation you just enjoyed could be sharply
 
curtailed if President Barack Obama gets his way.
 
Obama says American kids spend too little time in school, putting them at a disadvantage
 
with other students around the globe.
 
 
 
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Have special remedial schools in summer for kids who need it.
 
Don't we already have that?  
 
Just ...  Mandate ...  That.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by lastoneturnouttheli lastoneturnouttheli wrote:

I've been corresponding this morning with the reporter at Bloomberg who penned the piece, and she sent me to her sources that have the 6% figure, so that is what the quoted study claims and my supposition that it is .6% was wrong  However, the figure is based on an abstract model and the same study quotes other studies of actual experience that indicate a 10% absenteeism among the poorest resulting from closings because better-heeled folks find in-home daycare (babysitters).  The 6% figure assumes 40-100% absenteeism across the population, a stark contrast with the economic impact of 10% among the poorest.  I believe that this pandemic will roll down hill hard and a little higher mortality will mean that all bets are off.  Not closing schools when pandemic arrives in your town because of fears of decimating economic tolls would be a terrible mistake in every way.


Bloomberg, in their defense is one of the most solid sources of data around especially to many many people in the upper ranks and Wall Street.

Your conclusions as to the low mortality are not held up by figures we are getting from clinics with up to 10.4% of hospitalized patients for flu. Closing the schools would be MANY studies slow it down by 40%. Kids are spreaders.

As you know then we have communicator devices from Wall Street where we will receive information even if the stock market closes and there is no more ordinary communication. The wealthy of the world are informed and are kept informed. Bloomberg aren't scientists. They are in touch with them.

They have a huge network of information sources. Don't underestimate it.

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Second wave of swine flu pandemic begins to hit US

Surge in cases closes schools, strains hospitals

Technician%20Heather%20Bickley%20tested%20samples%20for%20H1N1%20flu%20at%20the%20Arizona%20State%20Health%20Lab%20in%20Phoenix.%20At%20least%2026%20states%20are%20now%20reporting%20widespread%20flu%20activity,%20federal%20officials%20said. Technician Heather Bickley tested samples for H1N1 flu at the Arizona State Health Lab in Phoenix. At least 26 states are now reporting widespread flu activity, federal officials said. (Matt York/ Associated Press)
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Washington Post / September 28, 2009
 
WASHINGTON - After months of warnings and frantic preparations, the second wave of the swine flu pandemic is starting to be felt around the country. Doctors, health clinics, hospitals, and schools are reporting rapidly increasing numbers of patients experiencing flu symptoms.
 
While most cases so far are mild, and the health care system is handling the load, officials say the number of people seeking treatment for the flu is unprecedented for this time of year.

In Austin, so many parents are rushing their children to Dell Children’s Medical Center of Central Texas with swine flu symptoms that the hospital had to set up tents in the parking lot to cope with the onslaught.

In Memphis, the Le Bonheur Children’s Medical Center emergency room got so crowded with feverish, miserable youngsters that it had to do the same thing.

And in Manning, S.C., a private school where an 11-year-old girl died shut down after the number of pupils who were out sick with similar symptoms reached nearly a third of the student body.

“It just kind of snowballed,’’ said Kim Jordan, a teacher at Laurence Manning Academy, which closed Wednesday after Ashlie Pipkin died and the number of ill students hit 287. “We had several teachers out also.’’

“H1N1 is spreading widely throughout the US,’’ said Thomas Frieden, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. The CDC reported last week that at least 26 states are now reporting widespread flu activity, up from 21 a week earlier.

Even though some parts of the Southeast that started seeing a surge of cases first now seem to be showing a decline, that could be a temporary reprieve, Frieden said. And other parts of the country are probably just starting to feel the second wave.

“Influenza is perhaps the most unpredictable of all infectious diseases,’’ Frieden said.

The pandemic has prompted scattered school closings around the country in recent weeks, including 42 schools that closed in eight states Friday, affecting more than 16,000 students.

Many colleges and universities have been hit particularly hard, forcing some to open separate dorms for sick students. Ninety-one percent of the 267 colleges and universities being surveyed by the American College Health Association are now reporting cases.

The government is starting an unprecedented system to track possible side effects as mass flu vaccinations begin next month. The idea is to detect any rare but real problems quickly, and explain the inevitable coincidences that are sure to cause some false alarms.

In just a few months, health authorities hope to vaccinate well over half the population against swine flu, which doctors call the 2009 H1N1 strain. No more than 100 million Americans usually get vaccinated against regular winter flu, and never in such a short period.

The last mass inoculations against a different swine flu, in 1976, were marred by reports of a rare paralyzing condition, Guillain-Barré syndrome, a sometimes fatal paralysis. Other possible side effects could potentially include heart attacks, strokes, seizures, and miscarriages.

On top of routine vaccine tracking, these government-sponsored monitoring projects are planned:

■ Harvard Medical School scientists are linking large insurance databases that cover up to 50 million people with vaccination registries around the country for real-time checks of whether people see a doctor in the weeks after a flu shot and why. The huge numbers make it possible to quickly compare rates of complaints among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, said the project leader, Dr. Richard Platt, Harvard’s population medicine chief.

■ Johns Hopkins University will direct e-mails to at least 100,000 vaccine recipients to track how they’re feeling, including the smaller complaints that wouldn’t prompt a doctor visit. If anything seems connected, researchers can call to follow up with detailed questions.

■ The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is preparing take-home cards that tell vaccine recipients how to report any suspected side effects to the nation’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting system.

“Every day, bad things happen to people. When you vaccinate a lot of people in a short period of time, some of those things are going to happen to some people by chance alone,’’ said Dr. Daniel Salmon, a vaccine safety specialist at the Department of Health and Human Services.

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Flumist has arrived.

School age Children
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Once in each nostril.

 
 
Flumist is for Healthy people ages 2 to 49.
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Children under age 10, usually kdg through 4th grade, need two doses. 
 
 
Nasal Spray Flu Vaccine Becoming Available
FluMist To Guard Against H1N1 Swine Flu
Oct. 2, 2009
 
 
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Who should not be vaccinated
with the nasal-spray flu vaccine LAIV 

 
  FluMist
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People less than 2 years of age[3]
 
People 50 years of age and over[3]
 
People with a medical condition that places them at high risk for complications from
 
influenza, including those with chronic heart or lung disease, such as asthma or reactive
 
airways disease;
 
 
 
People with medical conditions such as diabetes or kidney failure; or people with
 
illnesses that weaken the immune system, or who take medications that can weaken
 
the immune system.
 
 
 
Children <5 years old with a history of recurrent wheezing
 
 
 
Children or adolescents receiving aspirin
 
 
 
People with a history of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare disorder of the nervous system
 
 
Pregnant women
 
 
 
People who have a severe allergy to chicken eggs or who are allergic to any of the nasal
 
spray vaccine components.[3]
 
 
The CDC wants Parents to be aware of Vaccine Safety....
 
 
 
They have a special PDF .... Please read All of it and know what members of your family should not have certain vaccines.
 
 
Not everyone should have all vaccines.... read the PDF...
 
 
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/vac-admin/downloads/contraindications_guide.pdf
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(note... 200 pound man and 3 yr old child get same dosage of nasal type FluMist spray.)
... (intranasal), the dose for children of all ages (and adults) is a 0.2 cc sprayer.
 
 
 
 
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please see  above  for-
 
Who should not be vaccinated
with the nasal-spray flu vaccine LAIV 
 
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Mary008
 
thanks for the post, thats good information.
 
A little tough to figure out but worth the time.
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So who is at a Higher Risk of Viral Infection during a Pandemic?????
 
Teachers/Educators        Or        Doctors/Healthcare
 
 
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Educator Dies (Swine Flu)
 
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Teacher's   deserve combat pay..
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Things are heating up here in the desert.
 
My daughter is sick, and most of her friends are as well. She has missed 3 days of school now. She went into Doctor Friday and was diagnosed with Influenza. They took a culture from her nose and sent it in for influenza typing. Doctor prescribed Tamiflu and today she will take her last dose. We were told the test would not be back for several days which we have not heard anything back yet and it is day 5 since we were at the Doctors Office.
 
My wife (Teacher) was also seen that day and was having Influenza symtoms starting around the same time maybe a day later. At her school they have several teachers out and quite a few students as well. Lots of kids sniffling and coughing. She to was given Tamiflu and finishes her doses today.
 
A friend has a child in Phoenix Childrens hospital with Swine flu, more severe case (Also a Teacher). 
 
I guess we Missed The Vaccine by a week or 2.
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Confirmed Test results back on daughter yesterday. Doctor told us to keep her home today and tommarrow (School). He also ordered Chest Xray and a CBC as precautions, her cough just will not break. Doc also told us to be cautious in severity of symtoms and to bring her to emergency room if her fever and cough got worse, or if she was complaining of any breathing difficulty, and told us of 2 other patients both children whos symtoms progressed into more serious illness with one being hospitalized. He didnt say who or when but he looked a little rattled or more concerned than normal.
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Oh man, good luck with that Mahshadin.
 
I've seen a few people that are H1N1 infected amd they got better after seven to ten days. Your daughter should start showing improvement after the six day mark. Before that it's a tossup.
 
This virus is in the kid population bigtime. Everyone knows that kids are superbug factories, so I'm surprised that schools, and especially day care centers, are still open and operating.
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Thanks TG, nice to hear from you. It is day 7 today so I am hoping to see her starting to get better. She has lung issues so I have been a little more cocerned as is the Doctor.
 
Another note
 
The Doctor also instructed me to call in a confirmed case to the School. 
 
I to am perplexed by the School & Daycare Policy, the priorities seem to be out of wack.
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Mahshadin, I am also in the PHX. area. Did you hear that Brophy was closed last week. I heard from word of mouth not media. I did not confirm. I am guessing that your daughter goes to the girls school near by. North Canyon in PV is asking every absentee call in a series of questions as to why their student is not in school. Fever? How high? Any other symthoms. I'm not sure what good it will do .  I am happy to hear she is getting better. How are you feeling? Did you get Tamiflu for you ?
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I did not here that about Brophy.
We are in North Valley, and daugter goes to Public School  (Deer Valley District)
 
I did ask for a another script for Tamiflu, but Doc was un willing to accomidate without syntpoms and an appointment. I have not had any symptoms to date, but I hardly ever get sick even when whole family is ill (Not Sure Why).
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Pittston schools close over swine flu fears
 
October 08, 2009
 
PITTSTON (AP) � A school district in northeastern Pennsylvania is canceling Friday's classes due to swine flu concerns.

Pittston Area School District Superintendent George Cosgrove says classes should resume on Tuesday. No classes were scheduled Monday because of the Columbus Day holiday.

 
Parents have notified the district about 10 to 15 cases of doctor-confirmed swine flu and many students have been absent. As of 10 a.m. Thursday, 34.4 percent of the district's high school students were absent, as were 26.3 percent of the middle school students.
 
 
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More classroom flexibility, student responsibility in proposed UWSP swine flu plan

October 8, 2009

A possible attendance policy at the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point to deal with swine flu would require greater flexibility from professors for students missing classes, while at the same time documenting when students were absent.

The policy, passed Monday by the Academic Affairs committee, would need to be adopted by the full Faculty Senate to become official.

If passed, the policy would address the concerns of many students that they would be penalized for self-quarantining and missing classes, the recommended action if flu-like symptoms present themselves.

It would also create a paper trail in the case of a student needing to drop the class later in the semester if they can’t catch up after their absence. Students would be required to e-mail their professors within 10 days of the illness to verify the absences were because of the flu or flu-like symptoms.

“If months later it turns out Student A can’t really catch up, then the professor knows at that point they can’t hack it because this problem took place and was documented weeks ago,” said professor Larry Ball.

Some faculty, including Student Academic Advising Center members who manage student appeals for late withdrawal from courses, were concerned that without some sort of record of a student missing time for swine flu, the committee that makes the decision wouldn’t know how much of the semester’s absence was due to swine flu, and how much was for other reasons.

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AP Medical Writer

One quarter of Americans sick enough to be hospitalized with swine flu last spring wound up needing intensive care and 7 percent of them died, the first such study of the early months of the global epidemic suggests.

That's a little higher than with ordinary seasonal flu, several experts said.

What is striking and unusual is that children and teens accounted for nearly half of the hospitalized cases, including many who were previously healthy. The study did not give a breakdown of deaths by age.

"Contrary to the perception among many people that this influenza, novel H1N1, is mild, these data vividly demonstrate that influenza can make you very, very ill," said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University flu expert and spokesman for the Infectious Diseases Society of America.

"Clearly, the best way to protect yourself and your family is to get vaccine as soon as it becomes available," said Schaffner, who had no role in the study but has consulted for swine flu vaccine makers.

The study was done by researchers at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, working with hospitals and state and local health departments. Results were published online Thursday by the New England Journal of Medicine.

A second study released by the journal revealed that swine flu had a profound effect on intensive care units in Australia and New Zealand from June through August - winter months and the normal flu season in the Southern Hemisphere.

"They had a 15-fold increase in ICU care. That's a 1,500 percent increase," said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "We're still heading into our flu season. Will we see this same big increase in cases over the next several months or will we have a peak in cases in October or November?"

In the U.S. study, researchers led by the CDC's Dr. Seema Jain identified 272 patients hospitalized for at least a day from April through mid-June, when the novel virus caused its first wave of cases. That's about one-fourth of the total hospitalizations for swine flu reported during that time, but researchers only studied lab-confirmed cases and patients who agreed to be part of the study.

Three-fourths of these patients had other health problems, such as diabetes - typical of seasonal flu, too. However, only 5 percent were 65 and older; ordinary seasonal flu usually hits hardest in the elderly.

Seven percent were pregnant, even though pregnant women make up only 1 percent of the general population. Among hospitalized patients whose weight was known, 26 percent were very obese, confirming a risk factor suggested by other information from the outbreak.

Symptoms were different - 39 percent had diarrhea or vomiting versus only 5 percent with regular flu. About 40 percent had pneumonia. Seven percent died, and all had been put on breathing machines.

About three-fourths of hospitalized patients were given Tamiflu or other antiviral medicines, although most did not get these within the two days of first symptoms, as doctors recommend. Survival appeared to be better among those who got treatment quickly.

"The use of antivirals is critical," Jain said. "Start them, start them early. The patients who are hospitalized should get them quickly."

Other experts caution against making too much of specific numbers from these early results.

"We don't know how good these numbers are. They've done a good job; it's the best that we've got," Osterholm said. "But there are deaths out there that are not being recognized as influenza - only an autopsy would pick them up. And there are likely hospitalizations for flu that were missed as flu."

The Southern Hemisphere study involved 722 patients with confirmed cases of swine flu who were treated in intensive care units. More than 14 percent, or one in seven, died. That study also found a disproportionately large number of cases in pregnant women and the very obese.

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CDC: 76 children dead of swine flu as cases rise; leveling off apparently short-lived
 
ATLANTA (AP) � Health officials said Friday that 76 children have died of swine flu, including 16 new reports in the past week � more evidence the new virus is unusually dangerous in kids.

The regular
flu kills between 46 and 88 children a year, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.

With swine flu cases increasing throughout most of the country, more deaths are likely, Dr. Anne Schu****** said at a press conference Friday.

She noted that 37 states now are reporting widespread swine flu cases, up from 27 a week ago. A week ago, reports suggested that cases might be leveling off and even decreasing in some areas of the country, but that did not turn out to be an enduring national trend.

"We are seeing more illness, more hospitalizations, and more deaths," said Schu******, who heads the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Meanwhile, CDC officials say states have ordered 3.7 million doses of swine flu
vaccine for a campaign that started this week. Demand is exceeding supply, at least so far, and people seeking the vaccination can start by contacting their state or local health department to find out where to go, she said.

Health officials also said more data is trickling in from several clinical trials of the new vaccine, and so far no serious side effects have been reported.

Preliminary information from one study indicates that both a seasonal flu shot and a swine flu shot are effective when given during the same doctor's office visit. However, the government is not recommending that people get the nasal spray versions of the seasonal and swine flu vaccines at the same time.

The nasal sprays contain weakened, live virus, and the government doesn't have data on how a person's
immune system would react to exposure to both at the same time, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The CDC doesn't have an exact count of all swine flu deaths and hospitalizations, but existing reports suggest the infection has caused more than 600 deaths and more than 9,000 hospitalizations since it was first identified in April.

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On the Net:

CDC swine flu update: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/swine-flu/sns-ap-us-med-swine-flu,0,2044663.story


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 Asthma Most Common Condition In Hospitalized Swine Flu Patients
 
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An analysis in 10 states of people hospitalized with the pandemic strain of H1N1 influenza shows that asthma is by far the most common underlying condition associated with severe cases of the disease.
 

In children, other, much rarer chronic conditions, such as sickle cell anemia, cerebral palsy and muscular dystrophy, are also predisposing patients to life-threatening bouts of the virus, federal health officials said.

Epidemiologists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention studied the experience of about 1,400 people older than 18 and 500 children who had been hospitalized in 10 states since the new influenza strain emerged in April.

 
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Daughter and Wife have now recovered fully and are back in school (Student---Teacher). I ended up not catching anything this time around (Whew). Was fun playing Family Nurse with a plan though (thanks to All).
 
Hopefully thats the worste of it.
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glad your family is better Mahs...         ( like the blue)
 
Seems some of the people who were hardest hit were pregnant ... with.... asthma.
 
 
They will have few serious side effects with the egg based non-adjuvanted vaccine... very
 
little of the vaccines have been used so we are not amazed at little showing at this point...
 
it is later if "demand" picks up and... all that is available is.... experimental and adjuvanted
 
vaccine.
 
 
 
(my dad wanted the pandemic vaccine... but he is in the over 65 group ...they feel has
 
some immunity and is further down the line to get it.)
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School To Shut Down After Major Flu Outbreak

Oct 20, 2009 3:37 pm US/Central

900 Students At St. Charles East Call In Sick; School To Close Tomorrow And May Not Reopen Until Monday

A suburban high school is shutting down after more than 900 students were out sick with flu-like symptoms on Tuesday, school officials said.

St. Charles East High School will be closed, starting Wednesday and won't re-open until Monday at the earliest. All extra-curricular activities and athletic events have also been canceled.

More than 700 students called in sick on Monday. The school enrolls about 2,100 kids, meaning about 40 percent of the student body stayed home from class today.

Administrators do not know if the students are suffering from H1N1 or some other virus because they do not ask specifically about symptoms when students or their parents call in sick.

It is believed to be the biggest outbreak of flu-like illness in the Chicago area since the school year began.

"The high level of absences is beginning to impact normal school operations," the school said on its website.

"Extra-curricular activities for Tuesday, October 20th will go forward as scheduled. All athletic extra-curricular and parent night activities scheduled Wednesday through Friday are postponed until further notice."

"Homework assignments, tests, exams, and project due dates will all be rescheduled when East High School reopens. Parents will be informed via connect-ed and the district website as to when East High School will reopen."

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Waiting until almost half the school population is out sick with the flu is just to long, I have to wonder exactly what guidlines they are using.
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Mahshadin what the authorities are doing is right down shameful!!!  I have  a few teacher friends and one of them has a heart condition, one has high blood pressure and diabetes, and the another one has kidney disease....can you imagine the fear they have to live in with comming in contact with hundreds of kids each day.
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Oct 20, 2009 3:37 pm US/Central

900 Students At St. Charles East Call In Sick; School To Close Tomorrow And May Not Reopen Until Monday

A suburban high school is shutting down after more than 900 students were out sick with flu-like symptoms on Tuesday, school officials said.

St. Charles East High School will be closed, starting Wednesday and won't re-open until Monday at the earliest. All extra-curricular activities and athletic events have also been canceled.

More than 700 students called in sick on Monday. The school enrolls about 2,100 kids, meaning about 40 percent of the student body stayed home from class today.

Administrators do not know if the students are suffering from H1N1 or some other virus because they do not ask specifically about symptoms when students or their parents call in sick.

It is believed to be the biggest outbreak of flu-like illness in the Chicago area since the school year began.

"The high level of absences is beginning to impact normal school operations," the school said on its website.

"Extra-curricular activities for Tuesday, October 20th will go forward as scheduled. All athletic extra-curricular and parent night activities scheduled Wednesday through Friday are postponed until further notice."

"Homework assignments, tests, exams, and project due dates will all be rescheduled when East High School reopens. Parents will be informed via connect-ed and the district website as to when East High School will reopen."

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this is right next door to me..and still no vac..i am not afraid of the vac but i am concerned about my type 1 diabetic daughter and my asthmaic son..
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I know how you feel ops144, I have several in my immediate and exteneded family with asthma, diabetic, COPD, or other lung issues.
 
I tried to get info on vaccines here in the desert and ran into a brick wall, basically I was told they dont know when it will be in, what facilities will get it, or what vaccine will arrive.
 
It was a joke (Local Gov)
 
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Walgreens%20In-Store%20Flu%20Vaccination%20Program.
Beginning in October, participating Walgreens locations will give you the edge in fighting the flu season. Licensed health care professionals will administer flu shots and nasal spray flu vaccines in-store. Some locations will also be offering pneumonia vaccinations. Please
 
call ahead to make an appointment or for answers to any questions you may have.
 
 
 
 
 
 
CVS
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MinuteClinic nurse practitioners are offering flu shots every day inside select CVS/pharmacy stores. It’s quick and easy; you don’t even need an appointment. Age restrictions vary by store. See store locator for details. Find a MinuteClinic location >
 
 
Rite Aid
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Rite Aid seasonal flu and pneumonia shots*

It's not too late to get your flu shot!
Select stores on the East Coast will be holding immunization clinics on 10/20, 10/21, and 10/22. Walk-ins are welcome.
 
*Supplies are limited. Influenza vaccine (flu shot) is available for adults 18 and older. In select states, minors may also be eligible, a prescription may be required. You cannot receive an Influenza vaccine (flu shot) if you are currently ill, allergic to eggs or thimerosal, taking high dose steroids, or have had a serious reaction after receiving a vaccination. A prescription is required if pregnant. Pneumococcal vaccine is available for adults 65 and older, patients with chronic disease, smokers, and patients with asthma. You cannot receive a Pneumococcal vaccine if you have received one within the last 5 years. Other restrictions may apply. If you have any questions check with your Pharmacist or healthcare provider. Medicare Part B accepted. Other insurances may be accepted. You must show a valid insurance card at time of service.
 
 
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Called them to Mary08, they will not be administering any vaacinations to anyone under the age of 18, which in my view does not make any sense whatsoever, and they also had no clue when or what vaccine they would get.
 
Even better try to find a single dose version without any Mercury in it, you would think you were asking for a ride to the moon by the responses I recieved.
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My mom heard similar...   but was able to get an apt. at a drug store.
 
We should note they they said  they will have vaccines  (drugstores) in November also ...so
 
people should call/plan ahead.
 
They are also sending Vaccines to County Health Departments.
 
Please see
 
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Flu closes NICE

By JOHANNA BOYLE Journal Ishpeming Bureau
POSTED: October 21, 2009
 
ISHPEMING - The number of students absent due to illness has caused the NICE Community Schools to close for the remainder of the week.

According to Superintendent Michael Haynes, 15 percent of students were absent Monday and 22 percent Tuesday.

"The primary reason for closing is we were seeing a spike in the number of absentees due to flu-like symptoms," Haynes said.

Absences reached as high as 30 percent of students at the Aspen Ridge Middle School.

Closing for the rest of the week will allow sick students to recover and will give school staff time to disinfect hard surfaces in the buildings. Haynes said several factors were taken into consideration regarding the closing, including the health of students and the quality of instruction with so many students absent.

Based on how early the flu has hit and the trend across the country, Marquette County Health Department officials said they believe the strain of the flu hitting the county is H1N1 rather than the seasonal flu.

"It is very reasonable to project that what is happening right now is H1N1," said Corrine Brownell, personal health director.

Brownell said that although all flu cases are not being tested for H1N1, the strain has been found within the county.

"The best way for anyone to protect themselves is handwashing," she said.

Those experiencing a fever should stay home for at least 24 hours after the fever subsides to avoid passing the flu to others, she added.

Hospitals in the area have also noticed a spike in patients seeking care for flu-like symptoms.

"It's early. Usually the flu season is later," said Dave Edwards, spokesman for Bell Hospital. "It hit early and hit hard."

Edwards said the hospital has seen a large number of flu patients in the emergency room and the walk-in clinic, which treated more than 40 patients with flu symptoms Tuesday.

In order to limit the spread of the flu within the hospital, Edwards said visitors are being limited, especially children. In addition, people who are experiencing cold or flu symptoms should stay home unless they need immediate medical care, Edwards said.

"We're asking people to use common sense right now," he said.

Other schools in the west end have also seen a higher number of absences, but are so far remaining open

On Monday, 196 students at the Ishpeming Public Schools were absent or left school at some point during the day, which amounts to about 22 percent of the district. On Tuesday the absences numbered 197.

"We've been monitoring every day," Superintendent Stephen Piereson said. "We're paying close attention to this."

Piereson said the district has been in discussions with health department personnel and will be seeking further recommendations today as to whether the district should remain open.

The decision to cancel school will be made based on the number of students affected, if teachers are also getting sick and discussions with the health department, he said.

Negaunee Public Schools has also seen a large number of absences, particularly at the Negaunee Middle School.

There were 70 students absent Monday from the middle school, roughly 23 percent of the school, and 150 absent from the total district. On Tuesday, 174 were absent from the district. Superintendent Jim Derocher said the decision to cancel school will be made when 25 percent of the total district is absent, or about 360 students.

"At this point, I don't see us closing," Derocher said. "We're continuing to monitor it."

Derocher and Piereson said students were experiencing flu-like symptoms that typically last for 24 to 48 hours.

To stay healthy, students are encouraged to wash their hands regularly and thoroughly, sneeze into their sleeves instead of into the air and avoid touching their mouth or eyes.

"We're monitoring the situation on a daily basis," Derocher said.

Marquette Area Public Schools has also experienced an increase in absent students, but not to the degree of students in the west end of the county.

"Our absence records are being checked right now," Superintendent Jon Hartwig said.

In the past couple days, Hartwig said the district experienced about 10 percent absences.

"It appears to be less than that at this point," he said. "So far so good. We're encouraged."

Hartwig said the district was concentrating on making sure kids who are sick stay home.

 
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

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By JOHANNA BOYLE Journal Ishpeming Bureau
POSTED: October 21, 2009
 
ISHPEMING - The number of students absent due to illness has caused the NICE Community Schools to close for the remainder of the week.

According to Superintendent Michael Haynes, 15 percent of students were absent Monday and 22 percent Tuesday.

"The primary reason for closing is we were seeing a spike in the number of absentees due to flu-like symptoms," Haynes said.

Absences reached as high as 30 percent of students at the Aspen Ridge Middle School.

Closing for the rest of the week will allow sick students to recover and will give school staff time to disinfect hard surfaces in the buildings. Haynes said several factors were taken into consideration regarding the closing, including the health of students and the quality of instruction with so many students absent.


 


Mahshadin - congrats on carrying the torch on this one and you are doing a great job. I put up a mini Wisconsin thing- but I can nut shell it for you- they wouldn't not close down the schools to stop this- could have cut infection by 40% and not it is second Wave and something it hitting the schools. I love my little guy (Skye) but they are walking petri dishes and often parents are total oblivious as they sneeze and grandma and great grandma have a kissy face experience of mushiness and then we are doomed- for then they cook the big dinner with guess what as seasoning.. lightly sauted virus.

So it is gonna sweep. We may set records here as far as bodies infected. And as it gets into gear mutating (the chant of it hasn't mutated and no one expects it to suddenly go Mr. Hyde. ) I think it will. It is IMHO- but I think this little 3 recombo present from those decided to play with mother nature is gonna turn pit pull. Then we are in a Julie Andrews movie with Freddy Krueger. Our little cute flu assassins.

The tragedy, and I have my own personal rug rat- well he is now a good walker so we call him the 'little man' is a prime carrier of something.

And count or no count- empty chairs and principles are Apocalypse Now when absent students mean.. less money. They will become violent in an institution type way. Working mothers will be decimated at staying home in a recession and missing out on work where our employers have zero compassion. Had a friend working for someone very significant and he had surgery for face cancer- really intense- and they were unhappy because he took the day off to save his life.

Pre-school unleashed huh. With no vaccine. Yep- it will be here and gone as we await the potion to stop the Pandemic and Tamiflu will be a memory...

Good tracking..you can see where we are- intelligence versus desperate budget cut schools. I wonder what will win.

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Other schools or school districts closed in or around the same geographical area
 

Saint Francis

CLOSED 10/22 & 10/23

NICE Community Schools

Closed 10-21 through 10-23

Ishpeming Public Schools

CLOSED 10/22, 10/23, 10/26

Holy Name

CLOSED 10/22 & 10/23

Escanaba Public Schools

CLOSED 10/22 & 10/23

Dollar Bay/Tamarack Area Schools

CLOSED 10/21 through 10/23

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Sounds like this area is taking a more pro-active approach in protecting the children, faculty, and staff.
 
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I grew up in this area (UP of Michigan) and spent most of my adult life there.
 
I can tell you one thing about this area
 
They value their children
ABOVE ALL THINGS
 
Period!
 
I have seen some reports of schools waiting until almost half the students and faculty are out before they consider closing.
 
Wheres the priority
 
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Today 194 michigan schools have closed in the current Swine Flu outbreak.
 
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 CDC says swine flu has caused 95 children's deaths since April

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ATLANTA � The government's latest figures show swine flu is widespread across the country and increasing in almost every state. It's now caused at least 95 children's deaths since April.

 
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released the new tally this morning.

Forty-six states now have widespread flu activity. The only states without widespread flu are Hawaii, Connecticut, New Jersey and South Carolina.

There are at least two different types of flu causing illnesses now, but testing from about 5,000 patients suggests that nearly all of the flu cases are swine flu.

Meanwhile, in Geneva, the World health Organization said today that nearly 5,000 people have reportedly died from swine flu since it emerged this year and developed into a global epidemic.

Since most countries have stopped counting individual swine flu cases, the figure is considered an underestimate.

WHO said there were 4,999 total deaths through Oct. 18, most of them in the Western Hemisphere. The figure was up 264 from a week earlier.

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CDC swine flu update: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

 
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Flu school closures set to surpass spring count

Already this academic year, 600 schools have temporarily closed

 
CHICAGO - Across the country schools are closing by the dozen as officials say they’re being hit so hard by swine flu that they feel shutting down for a few days is the only feasible option.

The U.S. Education Department says at least 351 schools were closed last week alone — affecting 126,000 students in 19 states. So far this school year, about 600 total schools have temporarily closed.

The number of closures this year appears on target to surpass the roughly 700 schools closed last spring when the swine flu outbreak first hit. Flu season hasn’t peaked yet, and each day more schools are closing.

 
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New CDC numbers confirm that swine flu targets the young

The revised figures for H1N1 cases (22 million) and deaths (3,900) do not indicate a worsening pandemic. But they add to the evidence that those under age 65 are most susceptible.


At least 22 million Americans have contracted pandemic H1N1 influenza since the outbreak began in April and 3,900 have died, including about 540 children, according to new estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The numbers confirm what officials have been saying all along -- that swine flu is a young person's disease.

The total is about three times the number of deaths that the agency has been reporting, but the previous figures were based on laboratory-confirmed cases, whereas the new number reflects agency epidemiologists' best estimate of the total.

The new death toll is compiled in the same manner used for estimating deaths from seasonal flu, and gives a better comparison to those numbers. The numbers suggest that the toll from swine flu may approach that normally associated with seasonal flu. In a typical flu season, about 35,000 Americans die from influenza and related causes.

The estimates are compiled from both the number of laboratory-confirmed cases and from cases that may be listed on death certificates as pneumonia, organ failure or other infections, but which were precipitated by flu.

The new estimate does not mean that swine flu is worse than previously thought, simply that the CDC is getting a better handle on the situation. The previous numbers were "potentially giving an incomplete story of the pandemic," Dr. Anne Schu******, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a Thursday news conference. "What we are really trying to do is give a bigger picture."

To compile the estimates, researchers use comprehensive data from 62 counties in 10 states, including deaths outside hospitalizations in which laboratory confirmation did not occur; a fraction of deaths in which lab tests were negative (the tests give as many as 40% false negatives); and a variety of other data. The results are then extrapolated to the country at large.

CDC estimated that:

* 8 million children up to age 17 were stricken by swine flu; 36,000 were hospitalized; and 540 died.

* 12 million adults ages 18 to 64 were infected; 53,000 were hospitalized; and 2,900 died.

* 2 million people 65 or older were infected; 9,000 were hospitalized; and 440 died. In a normal flu season, 90% of deaths occur in those over 65.


The new estimates do not include infections and deaths since Oct. 17, a period in which swine flu has been circulating at its highest rate. Schu****** said the agency would provide updates every three to four weeks.

She said that 41.6 million doses of swine flu vaccine were available Thursday, "not as much as we have hoped to have by today." About 94 million doses of seasonal flu vaccine have been distributed, 3 million more than last week.

Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg said at the Reuters Health Summit in New York, however, that she expected to see the supply of swine flu vaccine improve soon.

"The gap between need and availability is narrowing," she said. "I think we are going to see doses coming off the lines and into people's arms or noses on a regular basis now."
 
 
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not to minimize this... but it is good to see a very low death rate for the  62 countries...    more people die of accidents in the home.   (we
spent 5-6 Billion on vaccine)
 
 
It's a little late... but hopefully at risk people can now be served....
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"I think we are going to see doses coming off the lines and into people's arms or noses on a regular basis now."
 
 
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I would talk to my Doctor....  If I were at risk and wanted a vaccine.
 
 
 
interesting info here...
 
 
 
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