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Seven flu deaths have been reported in the Ternopol region, the only Ukrainian area having a flu epidemic, head of the regional health department Bogdan Onyskiv told a Tuesday press conference. Doctors explained the deaths of young and physically fit persons with flu complications. The flu epidemic in western Ukraine started two weeks ago, yet the type of the virus is still unknown. “It is possible to name the type of the flu only in ten days. Ukrainian and British doctors are making tests. The final results will be announced once a London laboratory confirms them,” Onyskiv said. The Ternopol region has over 10,000 flu cases. Public events are prohibited, and 109 schools with 42,000 students are under quarantine. Experts explain the early cold and flu outbreak with a sharp drop of temperatures a week before the beginning of the heating season. The region did not have flu epidemics for the past five or seven years. The local residents had no immunity from flu. An increase of the cold and flu rate was reported from all the Ukrainian regions, but the situation is generally stable, a source at the Ukrainian Health Ministry said. The rate is high in Chernigov, Lvov, Kiev, Vinnitsa, Dnepropetrovsk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kharkov.

thousands sick and only 6 dead sounds like h1n1 to me nothing remotely like a mutation why did you say that?

Thanks..

Update: Health Ministry Confirms 20 Lethal Pneumonia Cases In Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk And Lviv Regions

The Ministry of Healthcare confirms 20 lethal cases of pneumonia in Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv regions, first deputy health minister Vasyl Lazoryshynets, has told at a news conference.

Ukranian News

Russian News Source

// 30.10.2009 // 10:25 //
Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine? (updated at 11:13 am)
MIGnews.com.ua

Yesterday, on October 29 some media reported that allegedly in the Ternopil Region cases of ill people with typhus were registered, and that militarized detachments limited entrance and departure from the territory of the Ternopil Region. However, the Public Relations Center of the Ministry of Emergencies in the Ternopil Region denied information about it.

Yesterday, on October 29 the chief physician of the regional sanitary-epidemiological station Halyna Hrynchuk assured that Kyiv Region is ready for prophylaxis and treatment of influenza, reported Yulia Makoveeva, MIGnews.com.ua correspondent.

In the Ternopil Region 25 percents of infectiologists who worked with patients with acute respiratory viral infections are ill, the chairman of the Association of infectiologists of Ukraine Mykhaylo Andreychin reported yesterday, on October 29 at a press conference.

"One fourth of doctors had such a disease or they are ill with it now. Fortunately, they are recovering now and soon again be able to work", - said Mykhaylo Andreychin.

Yesterday, on October 29 in Morshyn, Lviv Region a doctor from a local hospital, who contacted with patients with viral infection and visited them, died, is reported by the Deputy Chief of the Health protection department in the Lviv Region Iryna Mykytchak. According to her, a 56-year-old woman "had been previously diagnosed with pneumonia," UNIAN reports.

The medical facilities in the Lviv region have medicines for treatment of influenza and acute respiratory infections for the three-day supply, is said in the summary of information of the General Directorate of Health Protection in the Lviv Regional at the State regional Administration, UNIAN reported.

Because of the mass acute respiratory infections residents of the Lviv Region began to buy up antiviral drugs and flu masks. Yesterday, on October 29 the Lviv residents could not purchase masks. Consequently, the director general of the Lviv regional pharmaceutical corporation Nelia Byk appealed to all residents of the region with the request not to buy drugs without the need, Glavred cites the Ministry’s report as saying.

Ministry of Health recommends using the methods of traditional and alternative medicine for prevention of acute respiratory viral diseases, including influenza, Ukrainian News cites the report of the Ministry as saying.

According to experts of Ministry of Health, filling nutrition, conditioning to the cold and frequent airing of premises are effective during the period of active disease. Also, the Ministry recommends using general health-improving and tonic immunomodulatory drugs. In addition, the Ministry recommends frequent hand washing and cover a nose and mouth with a handkerchief when coughing and sneezing.

The number of people suffering from unknown virus in Ukraine is growing. According to the latest data of Ministry of Health, 30 deaths of flu and acute respiratory viral diseases have been recorded, starting from October, 19, in the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions. In particular, from October, 19 and until 04:00 p.m. on October 29 6 deaths have been recorded in the Ivano-Frankivsk Region, 12 - in the Lviv Region (including 1 child) and 12 - in the Ternopil Region. As of 04:00 p.m. on October 29 the number of people sick with influenza and acute respiratory viral infections in these regions has reached 37, 923 people, 951 out of them have been hospitalized.

11:04 a.m. The information has been received that 3 people died from complicated pneumonia for the last 3 days in Chernivtsi. In total, during the last day the number of people sick with acute respiratory vital infections in Chernivtsi increased from 2,623 to 4,053 people. Only in 8 cases influenza was diagnosed.

According to the doctors, now in Chernivtsi unidentified viral infection is being observed. The first results of virological studies that will identify the virus, will be ready only in two weeks.

Also, three people died in the Rivne Region, and one person- in Transcarpathia.

In total, according to unconfirmed reports, 37 people died.

In connection with this anti-epidemic measures are introduced at the Lviv railway.

A spokesman for the chairman of the Lviv regional state administration Olha Kulyk also reported that "Lviv airport and Lviv Customs are under control”.

The Ternopil Regional Council decided to hold an extraordinary session on October 30. MPs will start the meeting at 02:00 p.m. today.

The emergency antiepidemic and antiepizootic Committee will be gathered today in the Cabinet of Ministers, declared First Deputy Prime Minister Olexander Turchynov in the air of 5 Kanal.

In addition, commenting on the growth of drug prices, he appealed to owners of pharmacies: "Stop be a parasite on the problems of citizens and do not play with the prices because we will have to answer for it. We are not joking, and we will act fairly tightly."

11:13 a.m. The information has been received that 3 people died from complicated pneumonia for the last 3 days in Chernivtsi. In total, during the last day the number of people sick with acute respiratory vital infections in Chernivtsi increased from 2,623 to 4,053 people. Only in 8 cases influenza was diagnosed.

According to the doctors, now in Chernivtsi unidentified viral infection is being observed. The first results of virological studies that will identify the virus, will be ready only in two weeks.

Also, three people died in the Rivne Region, and one person- in Transcarpathia.

In total, according to unconfirmed reports, 37 people died.

In connection with this anti-epidemic measures are introduced at the Lviv railway.

A spokesman for the chairman of the Lviv regional state administration Olha Kulyk also reported that "Lviv airport and Lviv Customs are under control”.

The Ternopil Regional Council decided to hold an extraordinary session on October 30. MPs will start the meeting at 02:00 p.m. today.

The emergency antiepidemic and antiepizootic Committee will have a conference today in the Cabinet of Ministers, declared First Deputy Prime Minister Olexander Turchynov in the air of 5 Kanal.

In addition, commenting on the growth of drug prices, he appealed to owners of pharmacies: "Stop be a parasite on the problems of citizens and do not play with the prices because we will have to answer for it. We are not joking, and we will act fairly tightly."

Olexander Turchynov also said that the leadership of the Ternopil Regional Health Protection Department "waited for a few weeks, did not informed the center and only after they had realized they would not cope with the situation, attended the press conference, instead of immediately informing Kyiv”.

Poland is keeping an eye on the situation with a possible virus epidemic in Ukraine. But while the State Sanitary Inspectorate of the country (GIS) does not see reasons to limit or close traffic on the common border. According to the GIS, the inspection has instructed its offices in Rzeszow and Lublin strengthen sanitary control at checkpoints on the common border, as well as monitor the current situation. In addition, the service should inform travelers about the possible threat of the epidemic and prevent the need to immediately contact a doctor in case of symptoms appearing.

GIS representative noted that from October 31 to November 3 the number of Poles crossing the Polish-Ukrainian border, will increase because many people will visit the cemeteries in Ukraine.

Member of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Health Lilia Hrihorovich (Our Ukraine-People’s Self-Defense faction) is convinced of the necessity to declare the state of emergency in five regions of Ukraine.

MP of the Verkhovna Rada from the Party of Regions faction, deputy chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Health Viktor Korzh says that the Ministry of Health is not ready to struggle against flu and acute respiratory viral infections epidemic.

Director of the Ukrainian Center for influenza and respiratory infections, the Ministry of Health of Ukraine Olexander Hrynevich is convinced that Ukraine needs a massive vaccination against influenza in connection with a high incidence of acute respiratory infections. By reports of Interfax-Ukraine, UNIAN, Ukrainian News, Ukrainskaya pravda

As a reminder, October 28 flu epidemic in the Ternopil Region, which had appeared a week ago, mowed down nearly 10,000 of residents. Moreover - unknown virus has already killed seven people. Ministry of Health has confirmed 20 deaths from pneumonia in Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions.

A closed meeting has been held in Ivano-Frankivsk, at which participants agreed that epidemic of the so-called "pneumonic plague" is being spread throughout Ukraine. But the problem is its form is unknown, it is ATYPICAL nobody knows how to treat it.

It is starting to look like that coyote. I know India had said this about a month ago. They were experiencing rapid deaths. Looks like victims now are dying within 3 days of onset in many fatal cases.

Im seeing traveling increasing risk (students for sporting competitions, cross country truckers etc) and of course also those attending or teaching in schools and colleges. Im seeing about a 3 day deterioration from onset of symptoms, to death in fatalities. Lungs effected. I hope it has not mutated. Im pretty sure this is what they were reporting in India about a month ago.

INTERNATIONAL

   


Poland to shut border with Ukraine after flu outbreak?
30.10.2009 13:52

Poland’s health authorities are to decide whether extra security measures should be taken after the outbreak of a flu epidemic in Ukraine.



The Chief Sanitary Inspectorate (GIS) is monitoring Polish-Ukrainian border crossings. “People who are travelling to Ukraine are being informed about the flu hazard and instructed how to protect themselves against it,” says Tomasz Miszczak from GIS.



Ukraine’s health minister has announced a state of emergency after thirty-three people died from an unknown flu virus in western Ukraine, near the Polish border.



Almost 1000 people, mainly from the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions, infected with the virus have been hospitalized, including almost 500 children. Hundreds of people have been referred to medical centres and clinics with flu symptoms.



Earlier, Poland’s health hinister, Ewa Kopacz, announced that Polish-Ukrainian border crossings might be closed if the flu virus turns out to be dangerous for Poles. She added that at the moment there is no need to do this.



Border traffic is getting heavier as Poles visit their relatives’ graves in Ukraine to celebrate All Saints’ Day. (mg)



Related story:

Flu epidemic panics Ukraine , thenews.pl 30.10.2009

Reuters: Ukraine shuts schools, halts campaigning over H1N1

AFP - Swine flu deaths soar, Ukraine closes schools

This is a serious amount of info... Thanks Coyote

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It's time to place this on a sticky.   

Albert wrote: It's time to place this on a sticky.    This could be the same H1N1, and the Ukraine has limited (or no) med supplies & antivirals such as tamiflu.  Or something has changed.  The numbers indicate this is more severe than what we've seen.

It is hemorrhagic. And if they respond to this with the same mentality, they will make it immune to Tamiflu- and this could get a lot more virulent.  Is it a mutated H1N1? We can run a sequence on this in 3 days. Need to realize we have some amazing technology and toys and it is not that hard to figure stuff out. For instance, the differences in the sequence, the markers, and look at the symptoms, and way it behaves. It is not 2-3 days to catch- it is 7. It results in some serious bleeding respiratory and it kills.

Notable is it kills those over 60 as well. So much for the Baby Boomer free out card.

Albert, I am thinking maybe 3 Pandemics at once. We already have 6-7. And as per other research we are thinking two or three viruses traveling together and hitting and really putting people in a serious way.

Why aren't they giving Relenza?  You know Relenza works. Because - they are saving it.

Has anyone even bothered to find out where the cases came from? In HIV we could track the people. How hard is it to ask patient 0- there was a time when could find patient 0- what country did this come from?

Med

 

 This is what I was trying to say

Time Line To Disaster

April 6, 1917

• U.S. declares war on Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, Germany and the Ottoman Empire.

• America swings into full production of war material.

• American men are drafted into military service and deployed for training in Spain.

• ALL NEW RECRUITS ARE GIVEN MANDATORY VACCINATIONS—including a "broad-spectrum" live virus influenza vaccination.

• Rockefeller makes millions in vaccine sales while consolidating Standard Oil contracts worldwide.

• The first British soldiers committed to World War I are deployed to Iraq to protect American oil interests there.

• Following mass vaccine injections, U.S. soldiers are crowded into troop ships and sent to "train" in Spain. Seasick and stressed, soldiers aged 18-34 exhibit influenza symptoms on the voyage.

• Immediately after arriving in Spain, U.S. soldiers are "trained," that is, exposed to the various forms of gas they will experience in the trenches in France

• Exposure to these highly toxic gasses causes the live-virus influenza organisms to mutate into an extremely lethal and highly communicable form of virus.

• Millions of young, healthy men and women aged 18-34 die worldwide as a result of vaccinations combined with novel and highly toxic chemicals.

Loribearme wrote: This is what I was trying to say Time Line To Disaster April 6, 1917 • U.S. declares war on Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, Germany and the Ottoman Empire. • America swings into full production of war material. • American men are drafted into military service and deployed for training in Spain. • ALL NEW RECRUITS ARE GIVEN MANDATORY VACCINATIONS—including a "broad-spectrum" live virus influenza vaccination. • Rockefeller makes millions in vaccine sales while consolidating Standard Oil contracts worldwide. • The first British soldiers committed to World War I are deployed to Iraq to protect American oil interests there. • Following mass vaccine injections, U.S. soldiers are crowded into troop ships and sent to "train" in Spain. Seasick and stressed, soldiers aged 18-34 exhibit influenza symptoms on the voyage. • Immediately after arriving in Spain, U.S. soldiers are "trained," that is, exposed to the various forms of gas they will experience in the trenches in France • Exposure to these highly toxic gasses causes the live-virus influenza organisms to mutate into an extremely lethal and highly communicable form of virus. • Millions of young, healthy men and women aged 18-34 die worldwide as a result of vaccinations combined with novel and highly toxic chemicals.

Loribearme, Penham said to try and use credible sources and Prison Planet is not one of them. I'm betting the reason you didn't post a link is because you probably jacked that post from the dysfunctional Prison Planet Forum.

It would be nice if you tried to post from credible sources.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:mOBP4kIdrVEJ:forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D101090.0+%22U.S.+declares+war+on+Austria-Hungary,+Bulgaria,+Germany+and+the+Ottoman+Empire%22&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

Whatever is happening in The Ukraine, it's off and running now.  We will need to track the CFR as well as all information as accurately as possible so we can figure out what we're dealing with.   Another flu virus piggybacking off h1n1?   These "non-h1n1" and "unexplained" deaths is a little odd.    

Its too early to even begin calculating a CFR.   It is quite possible that the number of deaths are underestimated.  We need to give this time and see what the next several days brings us in terms of new information.   Time will tell....

We would have a difficult time comparing death rates between countries... It is not something we want to do.... focus on.  It isn't nice to point out any particular countries rate of ill health and adding H1N1... the number of deaths it causes.  The death rate would have to be extremely high for concern , which it isn't at this point, mainly because they were smart to close down schools and mass gatherings.

Caution since I am not sure about the souce but:

Dennis, it sure was smart of them to close schools...this should slow the transmission and buy them some time and save lives. 

Dennis
Thank you for the information. I had read on another blog that about 4 out of the roughly 60 deaths were doctors. Have you seen that in your reading? Sounds like a very high percentage of HCW if true.  Thank you again.
D

There was a similar... panic ....in Mexico... but we see that closing things down for several weeks works quite well. 

better trans here...