Will H5N1 and H1N1 Mix?

I believe that it has already happened. Its just a matter of time before the mainstream media will report on it...wish people didn't eat things like duck blood soup and pudding...

Sadly I think it will.  I am just hoping / praying the mutation wll be in a less deadly form.

I think, mind you, I am only thinking and commenting, I have nothing to back up any of my thoughts, but here goes.

I think you will have a recombination and it will happen this month. 

January 2010 will be the start of stacking dead in the streets.  The recombination will be in china, so that is where the stacking will start.  They will burn dead bodies day and night.  The panic will start around the world.  The Koreas will be hit just as hard as China, Indonesia and India.  Japan will start a quaranteen and close airports and all shipping.  Eastern Europe and European Russia will battle the virus like there is no tomorrow, More burning of bodies and quaranteened cities, no one in and no one out.  Western Europe and england will be batteling the virus just like the other countries in europe but will not be hit as hard but will still do a lot of quaranteening of their cities.

The US will be hit hard on both coasts and will soon learn the need to quaranteen, shutting everything down.  Central US & Canada will do the best in beating this virus.  Mexico and areas south will have less problems.  By this time it will be late spring.

Things will not be the same, however the ones who survive will start to stock pile food and prepare for the outbreak scheduled for the fall 1010.

I voted yes because "stuff happens" why not a combination of H1N1 and H5N1.

I have been getting rid of my can goods because of short expiration dates but have my long term storage stuff. I will renew all necessary items this summer because I believe no matter what happens we need to be prepared for what ever comes.

Hi tech, it accepts multiple votes so more than one person in a household can vote, and so guests can vote, etc ....   

What about starting a poll asking why many guests don't register?

People might not know that they can register by just picking a name and password. OR that some really great names are available.

Jesus
Al Gore
Barack Obama :)
Are available:

No email address needed and they can do it without giving any personal data whatsoever.

Pookey wrote: In my opinion, there may be an outside chance of a reassortment with H5N1, but H5N1 has had several years to reassort with seasonal flu ...

According to WHO, widespread tamiflu resistant mutations are common with the season flu, but have yet to cross over to the Swine Flu. Out of the over 500,000 cases of H1N1 across the world, only 75 mutations have been reported. They will continue to monitor the mutated strains to see if its becoming more common, and how often it leads to severe disease...just a thought.

yes, but they're still dating and figuring out how to consumate the relationship. They both have what the other needs to be the huge killer I'm preparing for.

Hi gang, am voting YES only because H5 and H1 are always going to be around and all it needs is time and enough hosts be it humans or animals.  Of course I am going to stay optimistic and just hope that it doesn't.  take care, Tip

U.S. to Create a Bird Flu Virus Mutation


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The Washington Times

Atlanta, GA, Mar. 24, 2005 (UPI) -- The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has begun a series of experiments to see how likely the bird flu virus could result in a human pandemic.

The six-month series of experiments seeks to simulate the mixing and matching of genes from the H5N1 avian flu virus that has plagued Asia and a common human flu virus that public-health experts fear could turn avian flu into a pandemic, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

CDC scientists inside an ultra-secure laboratory have started swapping the genes of the H5N1 avian virus with the genes of an H3N2 virus, the strain behind most recent human flu outbreaks.

The goal is to substitute the eight genes of each virus, one by one, with the eight genes from the other virus to see which of more than 250 possible combinations create flu viruses that could spread easily among humans.

The work responds to fears by global public health experts that the bird flu virus could mutate to form one that could spawn a global outbreak of the disease.

By: Devvy Kidd

Healwayshasaplan, I'm with you.  I think it will if it hasn't already. 

Ok, so I have this image of the CDC highest level with the suits and stuff and the guys mixing H1N1 snot with H5N1 snot in petri dishes and putting it in differnt situations to see if they mix. LOL! I have such strange images...I watch too much TV!

Myself, my Chihuahua, my infant son and then my wife, in that order have all come down with something flu/like. Be it "seasonal" or H1N1 or some other cold/flu bug I don't know but I'm tired of hearing that dogs don't get what we get. They clearly do. My dog licked the nostril of my severely stuffed nose and two days later became modderately ill with severe sinus stuffing and drainage just like the rest of us and days later is still ill. This is not the first time I have inadvertantly infected my dog with some kind of contaigion. But everyone keeps telling me it does not happen. EVERY ONE of you are dead wrong.

I spent Christmas Eve in the hospital getting a iv drip of fluids meds etc and finalyy a nebulzer treatment.  They said i had swine flu , pnuemonia, and asthma.

Prepgirl, I hope you start feeling better soon!  I am on my third round of antibiotics myself for an ongoing sinus infection, mine is finally starting to clear up. I kept going back to the doc because I wanted to try to prevent it from turning into bronchitis or pneumonia because that is definately no fun.

my symptoms when i had the flu was totally blocked nose.  And my lung filled up xmas eve really fast where as the onset of my choking started. Like someone pour a hose down my lungs full of fluid. You could hear the fluild weez in my lungs really loud..  And the hardest part was what was in my lung was not moving a inch... I could not cough it up not even after they gave me the nebulizer treatment.  It took a few hours for me to be able to clear my lung enough to breath..  Would fill right back up again.  Deffinately was nasty.  When I coughed my lungs burned so bad it hurt like i was having a heart attack..  They took ekg my heart was fine.  I really didnt want to cough.  Now I realize when someone earlier said how their lungs felts. Like my lungs where being ripped out of my body..

Oh I want to thank everyone. Including Penham .  I am feeling week but better.  Still have the lung and nose thing going.  And I wouldnt suggest pushing it either ..  This feels like it could turn at anytime and take control again.. I am taking no chances with this one.  I will get the bed rest the doctered told me to get.

Oh my gosh Prepgirl, that sounds like a terrible experience! I am glad you are feeling a bit better!

Albuterol sounds like what you got in the nebulizer (we have asthma and have it at home) there is also a steroid they can add in with the Albuterol to help out. If you find out (after finishing the Zithromax antibiotic) that you start to feel bad again, get right back to the doctor. Zithromax (Z pack) was the second antibiotic I was on with my current sinus infection, I did well on it started getting better until it was done, then it all came right back. So be careful with that. Wednesday when I went in to see the doctor, they gave me a shot of Rocephin (antibiotic) and Decadron (steroid) then sent me home with Levaquin and Prednisone which seems to be working! Just be on the watch after you finish the antibiotics to make sure you continue to get better!

PrepGirl wrote: Oh and I had both shots regular flu shot and h1n1 shot. I hate to see hhow sick i would have been if i didnt have those shots.

How many days after those shots did you get sick and have you had the pneumonia shot within 5 years?

hi all

happy new year

i had shot in november no side affects

i voted yes, because just before xmas, in thailand,  h1n1 passed to pigs from a human,the pig

 is  an ideal mixing vessel for a recombiation this was the first case in asia,as we know h5n1

abounds there so i think its only a matter of time .