http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_01/WindTurbineL_468x338.jpg

...The executive group, which calls itself the American Energy Innovation Council,
will propose a series of measures that it hopes will transcend the politics of the
moment and put the nation on a path to a different energy future.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/business/energy-environment/10gates.html?ref=john_doerr

 

Make sure they check out the things people hate about wind power-

 

the noise of the huge propellers, the flashing as the shadows move across the ground.

It makes people nervous and dizzy.  It is disruptive to daily life. And they are Ugly.

Make sure that the American Energy Innovation Council lives with it for>>  a week.

 

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyOImGHyJtQ

 

It sounded Like a Great Idea...

Wind turbines and health problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm0Oe8J6qT8&feature=related

 

If T. Boone wants to put up wind towers along the major migratory flyway,
we need to sit him down and tell him why it's not a good idea.  And talk to the Brits
who just had to scrap a big off shore wind power deal because over 100 of the monster structures were found to interfer with a defence radar system .

Take a page from the Brits-

http://www.moorsydeactiongroup.org.uk/

 

Have the American Energy Innovation Council visit people who use solar.

 

No noise, no flashing. less Ugly.

 

Companies are pulling out because people are showing great opposition to
The Ugly Noisy, flashing Monsters....

Vestas, a Danish company which is the world's biggest wind energy group, announced
in April it was pulling out of the UK, citing the difficulties of getting wind farms built
in Britain in the face of local "Nimby" opposition campaigns and the
slowness of the planning system.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/wind-power-plan-blown-off-course-1757467.html

 

The smaller turbines are not much better....

Noise from Small Wind Turbines: An Unaddressed Issue

http://www.wind-works.org/articles/noiseswt.html

 

 

New report ties wind turbine noise to potential health problems

 

http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2009/07/22/
new-report-ties-wind-turbine-noise-to-potential-health-problems/

 

 

Noise Impacts of Terrestrial Wind Turbines
by Sam Rigotti

http://www.acousticecology.org/sr_ccRigotti_windfarms.html

 

 

"Sleep Disturbance and Wind Turbine Noise."

 

Founder of the Leicester Sleep Disorders Service, which is the longest standing

and largest service of its kind in Great Britain, Dr. Christopher Hanning's work
 in the area of sleep disorders has spanned thirty years. He currently chairs the
advisory panel of the SOMNIA study, a major project investigating sleep quality
in the elderly.

 

Dr. Hanning writes, "Sleep disturbance and impairment of the ability to return
to sleep is not trivial, as almost all of us can testify."

http://betterplan.squarespace.com/todays-special/2009/7/22/72209-
why-is-wind-turbine-noise-a-potential-health-hazard.html

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Bill Gates' American Energy Innovation Council Unveils "Business Plan for America's Future"

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Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4&feature=player_embedded

Does anyone know anything about solar? Would this plan work?

We place solar cell pannels on 500 poultry houses in MS. They are 500 feet long. 

 

We sell the electricity to power companies for 10% less than what it costs them to produce it from fossil fuels.

 

We put the money from the sale of the electricity in a fund. As soon as there is enough money to install pannels on another house we do so. I have no idea how long that would take.

 

All factors being equal the #502 house should happen a little quicker and as the number gets larger the addition of new houses should be faster. I believe they call it exponetial. Like populations grow. And the sun will pay for all the systems on all the houses above #500.

 

When every poultry house in the sunny part of the country has pannels we could start with factories and other large buildings.

 

At some point it should be easy to pay back the original investment. Or maybe we could get grants and not have to pay it back.

 

Then we could do homes. Then we could switch the cars to electric.        

 

 

Suzi2 wrote: Does anyone know anything about solar? Would this plan work? We place solar cell pannels on 500 poultry houses in MS. They are 500 feet long.    We sell the electricity to power companies for 10% less than what it costs them to produce it from fossil fuels.   We put the money from the sale of the electricity in a fund. As soon as there is enough money to install pannels on another house we do so. I have no idea how long that would take.   All factors being equal the #502 house should happen a little quicker and as the number gets larger the addition of new houses should be faster. I believe they call it exponetial. Like populations grow. And the sun will pay for all the systems on all the houses above #500.   When every poultry house in the sunny part of the country has pannels we could start with factories and other large buildings.   At some point it should be easy to pay back the original investment. Or maybe we could get grants and not have to pay it back.   Then we could do homes. Then we could switch the cars to electric.

I like the idea! In fact it's an awesome idea as a stopgap!

There are a few problems in regards to using it on a wide scale though.

1. When it's cloudy and you're only receiving half as much sunlight, you don't just cut the power you receive in half, you actually gut it by three quarters or more. It makes keeping those babies charged tough.
2. Weather is a *HUGE* problem! One hail storm and you're going to lose a bit of your power input capacity.
3. The ingredients are rare, exotic, hard to find, and must be dug out of the ground using mining equipment that runs on: You guessed it! Oil!
4. Electricity doesn't have the energy density to run heavy mining machinery for any economical length of time. As great as it would be to run the machinery on electric, we can't.
5. We can't just switch cars to electric. Don't get me wrong, the Chevy Volt or the other electric only vehicles are not only nifty, but highly promising. Imagine every car in the United States being plugged into the power grid all at the same time. The power generating and transmission capacity simply isn't there for 20% of that load, much less everyone and won't be for even another twenty years. We are near capacity now and are expanding as fast as we can, but also there just isn't enough room.
6. A barrel of oil isn't only turned into gasoline and diesel. Actually only about a third is able to be made into the energy distillates. The rest goes into rubber, pesticides, fertilizers, plastics,industrial chemicals, etc. Many of those chemicals are necessary for making into the solar cells.

Even if we're not burning the distillates in our cars, the problem of our oil addiction simply isn't going to go away.

I sent the idea to Ed Begley Jr.