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TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007

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The news blackout of Ron Paul! It looks like the Lame Stream Media is pushing for a run-off with Romney, Perry, and Bachman.

Indecision 2012 - Corn Polled Edition - Ron Paul & the Top Tier
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With the Hope and Change con game in cinders, are the Dems going to dump Obama in the heap for Hilary Clinton?
If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination Obama would be toast!

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Ron Paul's Economic Plan Press Conference
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Why does Ron Paul try to Run as a Republican  (They want nothing to do with him)
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Maybe because the party has been hijacked by the RINO's at the leadership level?
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

Why does Ron Paul try to Run as a Republican  (They want nothing to do with him)


The same reason the establishment doesn't like The Hermanator: They're real conservatives or Libertarians.

They are in love with Romney.

If the Republican establishment pushes forth Romney, no matter who wins, we get Obama part two.

It is inarguable at this point that Obama has been the biggest disaster that has ever befallen the country. That isn't even opinion anymore, it's fact. He's got the most corrupt, least transparent, least competent administration the country's ever had. The man's even surpassed J.E. Hoover, J. Carter, G.W. Bush and W.J. Clinton as astounding as that sounds!

That said, however, if the Republicans foist Romney, I'll join you, Mahshadin, in voting for Zer0. Thereafter I'll vote a straight Republican/Libertarian ballot.
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In-Arguable
 
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I hadly agry with everything he has done, but thats just over the top!
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

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I hadly agry with everything he has done, but thats just over the top!


Name one thing he did right.

For extra credit, find something in foreign policy.

Sorry, "Killing Bin Laden" doesn't count as under Zer0's plans he technically should have captured him, per his rants, and even then it was G.W. Bush's policies of torture (Which Obama said he was specifically against) that got them the info that found him. That one gets chalked up the G.W.
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This is exactly the problem. There is such distain and hatred on the right you cant even give him credit for Bin Laden even though he told you he would finish it.
 
There is just no way the Right can get along with anyone at this point.
 
Its only a MY Way Or The Highway party right now (with Truth or Lies it does not matter to them)
 
And the Dems are not far behind. Division and ideological divides are the political word of the day and have been since 2000.
 
Name one thing he did right (TG).

We already played this game a year ago TG.

I did not buy in to the delegitimize campaign that has been raging since 08.

I support the President because he is the President and Commander In Chief of This Country. The reason I do this is because I am an American not political affiliation, to do anything else especially in Foreign Policy & the Economy is destructive to US.

It doesnt really matter anyway (This is the wrong fight). The country fights over the ideological Right and Left while our Country is literally being stolen right from under our feet.
 
The real fight is Wallstreet VS Mainstreet and always has been going back to the depression era. Until we all wake up and smell the Coffee there will just be more misdirected FEAR, ANGER, and HATRED (Atleast thats the Plan) and it is a Very Very Very well funded Plan.
 
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

This is exactly the problem. There is such distain and hatred on the right you cant even give him credit for Bin Laden even though he told you he would finish it.
 
There is just no way the Right can get along with anyone at this point


HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! You actually believe that?

I seem to remember Zer0 talking about how we should give these people a public trial in New York, capture instead of kill them, and even go so far as to read them their Miranda vs. Arizona rights. (Soldiers are not police, and Miranda does not apply outside of the United States)

The ****head killed Bin Laden because he had to.

Imagine the media circus if he had gone with his early plans, had him captured, then put his arse on trial. He wouldn't even have to try to get re-elected at that point. He'd probably wind up impeached.
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Not that I care for either party but I worry that if the party in power knows we are going to crash and burn they will try to crash the country before the election so there will be no election.

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Both sides say that stuff just before every election. The Democrats were saying it before the end of G.W.'s term was up, the Republicans are saying Zer0's gonna try it now.

It's poppycock.

Wanna see an armed revolt? Let a President, especially one as unbelievably unpopular as Zer0 decide to "Suspend" elections indefinitely...
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There are no politicians that really care about this country or the people they are supposed to represent anymore. They are ALL a disgrace to this great nation.
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OBAMA'S OWN WORDS TRAP HIM:
This has been going around the internet.  Every politician out there will do a 180 if it suits them.  The guy we've got now is no different.
2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."
2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."

2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."
2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."

2008: "Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."
2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."

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Paranoid Mom...Great Post! I know what change Obama was talking about Change him out of office Nov. 2012!
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Hope and Change through Executive Order?

Ron Paul: Obama Presidency On The Verge Of Being A "Dictatorship"




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Occupy movement makes sense to Ron Paul

Published: 11 November, 2011

 
While Republican attitudes towards Occupy Wall Street protesters have been largely negative, GOP hopeful Ron Paul aligned himself with those participating in the movement during last night’s televised presidential debate.

­In support of the agenda of the thousands of Americans participating in the Occupy movement, Texas Congressman Ron Paul said Wednesday night, "if you’re going after crony capitalism, I'm all for it."

According to Paul, crony capitalists are those "that benefit from contract from government, benefit from the Federal Reserve, benefit from all the bailouts. They don’t deserve compassion. They deserve taxation or they deserve to have all their benefits removed."

"But crony capitalism isn’t when someone makes money and they produce a product," added the candidate. "That is very important. We need to distinguish the two. And unfortunately I think some people mix that."

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The fix is in: Republicans make sure Obama serves second term!
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If We The People re-elect Obama we get what we deserve...a socialistic government that will fail. Like my 88 year old mama says, "I will vote for an old yellow dog instead of Obama!"
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Good campaign video, I can only imagine what Ron Paul would do to Obama if he wins the Republican nomination.

Newt Gingrich: Serial Hypocrisy
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Pt.1 PROOF Rigged Election - Watch the Vote 2012 - Iowa Caucus
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Sorry but Mitt is the only candidate that can win against Obama. Why because the independent voters can vote for Mitt the rest of the GOP pack are too conservative or too nutty for independents to vote for.

From the stats below looks like New Hampshire may have a better record for picking winners.

I really hope Mitt wins the nomination. Let us face it folks Iowa gave us Huckabee in 2008 and we all know how that turned out. So I fully expect Ron Paul to possibly win but that means nothing!

Winners of the Iowa Caucus who got the nomination of their party:

1976 Carter D, Ford* R
1980 Carter D
1984 Mondale D, Reagan* R
1992 Bush* R
1996 Clinton* D, Dole R
2000 Gore D, Bush R
2004 Kerry D, Bush* R
2008 Obama D

Winners of the Iowa Caucus who didn't get the nomination:

1972 Muskie D
1980 Bush R
1988 Gephardt D, Dole R
1992 Harkin D
2008 Huckabee R

New Hampshire's Primary Winners:

Republicans

2004: President George W. Bush (no serious opposition)
2000: Senator John S. McCain defeated Governor George W. Bush, Malcolm S. "Steve" Forbes, Jr., Ambassador Alan Keyes, and Gary L. Bauer
1996: Patrick J. "Pat" Buchanan defeated Senator Robert J. "Bob" Dole, Governor A. Lamar Alexander, Malcolm S. "Steve" Forbes, Jr., Senator Richard G. "Dick" Lugar, and Ambassador Alan Keyes
1992: President George H. W. Bush defeated Patrick J. "Pat" Buchanan
1988: Vice President George H. W. Bush defeated Senator Robert J. "Bob" Dole, Congressman Jack F. Kemp, Jr., Governor Pierre S. "Pete" du Pont IV, and Reverend Marion G. "Pat" Robertson
1984: President Ronald W. Reagan (no serious opposition)
1980: Governor Ronald W. Reagan defeated Ambassador George H. W. Bush, Senator Howard H. Baker, Jr., Congressman John B. Anderson, and Congressman Philip M. "Phil" Crane
1976: President Gerald R. Ford defeated Governor Ronald W. Reagan
1972: President Richard M. Nixon defeated Congressman Paul N. "Pete" McCloskey, Jr. and Congressman John M. Ashbrook
1968: Vice President Richard M. Nixon defeated Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller
1964: Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. defeated Senator Barry M. Goldwater, Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller, and Vice President Richard M. Nixon
1960: Vice President Richard M. Nixon (no serious opposition)
1956: President Dwight D. Eisenhower (no serious opposition)
1952: General Dwight D. Eisenhower defeated Senator Robert A. Taft and Governor Harold E. Stassen


Democrats

2004: Senator John F. Kerry defeated Governor Howard B. Dean III, General Wesley K. Clark, Senator John Edwards, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich and Civil Rights Activist Al Sharpton.
2000: Vice President Albert A. Gore Jr. defeated Senator William W. "Bill" Bradley
1996: President William J. "Bill" Clinton (no serious opposition)
1992: Senator Paul E. Tsongas defeated Governor William J. "Bill" Clinton, Senator J. Robert "Bob" Kerrey, Senator Thomas R. "Tom" Harkin, and Governor Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown, Jr.
1988: Governor Michael S. Dukakis defeated Congressman Richard A. "Dick" Gephardt, Senator Paul M. Simon, Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, and Senator Albert A. Gore, Jr.
1984: Senator Gary W. Hart defeated Vice President Walter F. "Fritz" Mondale, Senator John H. Glenn, Jr., Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, and Senator George S. McGovern
1980: President James E. "Jimmy" Carter, Jr. defeated Senator Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy and Governor Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown, Jr.
1976: Governor James E. "Jimmy" Carter, Jr. defeated Congressman Morris K. "Mo" Udall, Senator Birch Evans Bayh II, Senator Fred R. Harris, and Ambassador R. Sargent Shriver
1972: Senator Edmund S. Muskie defeated Senator George S. McGovern and Mayor Samuel William "Sam" Yorty
1968: President Lyndon B. Johnson defeated Senator Eugene J. "Gene" McCarthy
1964: President Lyndon B. Johnson (no serious opposition)
1960: Senator John F. Kennedy (no serious opposition)
1956: Senator C. Estes Kefauver defeated Governor Adlai E. Stevenson II
1952: Senator C. Estes Kefauver defeated President Harry S. Truman
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So – having to show an ID to vote disenfranchises minority voters – who also can’t get their welfare checks, social security checks, medicare/medicaid benefits, etc WITHOUT an ID. However, if you don’t have to show an ID, then someone else can show up and vote in my name – which disenfranchises me (or any other registered voter for that matter). Lib logic at its finest… s/ ~comment from article ~
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You need ID to cash a check, rent a video or buy a gun.

But ID to vote, that’s racist dude. ~ Comment ~

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Voter ID affects three of the Democrat’s most reliable voting blocks. Illegal aliens, felons and dead people.

kurtzz3 on December 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Abso-friggin’-lutely. And they fool no-one but racialists with this nonsense, while making themselves look like clowns. ~ Comment ~

Holder bets Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act on opposition to photo-ID voting requirements

posted at 12:00 pm on December 30, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

For a man who supposedly doesn’t have the faintest clue what his own ATF is doing while bodies pile up in the hundreds in Mexico, thanks to Operation Fast and Furious, Eric Holder is rather busy sticking his nose into the business of states — and perhaps spelling the end of disparate treatment by the Department of Justice of southern states entirely. The DoJ, through its Civil Rights division, announced that it would block a new South Carolina law that required voters to show a photo ID when casting a vote, claiming that it had a disproportionate impact on minority voters. The Wall Street Journal scoffs at the claim, and points out that Holder has put the DoJ on a fast track to losing Section 5 in the 1965 Civil Rights Act as a result:

In a letter to South Carolina’s government, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Thomas Perez called the state law—which would require voters to present one of five forms of photo ID at the polls—a violation of Section 5 of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Overall, he noted, 8.4% of the state’s registered white voters lack photo ID, compared to 10% of nonwhite voters.

This is the yawning chasm the Justice Department is now using to justify the unprecedented federal intrusion into state election law, and the first denial of a “pre-clearance” Voting Rights request since 1994.

One of the forms of acceptable photo ID is the South Carolina identification card issued by the state … for free. Applicants have to show proof of residency in the state and a birth certificate or passport that shows US citizenship. If they lack a birth certificate, the state will provide a certified copy for $12, either in person, by mail, or by phone for an additional fee of $12.95. Note that the federal government requires states to check photo-IDs to get gun permits, another right explicitly guaranteed by the Constitution, for which all of these same fees would apply in South Carolina.

Interestingly, this is almost identical to Indiana, which has a provision for free state IDs but only for the purpose of voting. They require the same documents to get the state ID, and charge between $5 to $12, depending on which county the birth record resides. Why is Indiana important? Because the Supreme Court approved an identical photo-ID voting requirement in Indiana in 2008, not to mention one in Georgia, also covered by Section 5, in 2005:

The 1965 Voting Rights Act was created to combat the systematic disenfranchisement of minorities, especially in Southern states with a history of discrimination. But the Justice position is a lead zeppelin, contradicting both the Supreme Court and the Department’s own precedent. In 2005, Justice approved a Georgia law with the same provisions and protections of the one Mr. Holder nixed for South Carolina. In 2008, the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board that an Indiana law requiring photo ID did not present an undue burden on voters.

In a later case, this one involving Holder, the Court declined to make a decision about Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, although they did note the “substantial federalism costs” of interfering in the law-making ability of a subset of states decades after the voting-rights issues have been settled. But that’s not all they said on the matter to Holder:

A second case offers a further glimpse into the High Court’s perspective on the modern use of Section 5. In 2009′sNorthwest Austin Municipal Utility District v. Holder, the Court declined to decide the question of the constitutionality of Section 5, writing that while it imposes “substantial federalism costs,” the “importance of the question does not justify our rushing to decide it.” But the Justices didn’t stop there.

They also cast real doubt on the long-term viability of the law, noting in an 8-1 decision by Chief Justice John Roberts that it “imposes current burdens and must be justified by current needs.” That such strong criticism was signed by even the Court’s liberals should concern Mr. Holder, who may eventually have to defend his South Carolina smackdown in court.

South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley tells us she “will absolutely sue” Justice over its denial of her state’s law and that challenge will go directly to federal district court in Washington, D.C. From there it may be appealed directly to the Supreme Court, which would have to consider whether South Carolina can be blocked from implementing a law identical to the one the High Court approved for Indiana, simply because South Carolina is a “covered” jurisdiction under the Voting Rights Act.

In the 2008 case, Section 5 wasn’t an issue, since Indiana wasn’t a covered state under its terms. It will be a big part of the case when Haley pushes it to the Supreme Court, not just on the thin 1.6% difference that the DoJ cited, but because the Court will have to take into account the 2008 case when it decides on South Carolina’s law. They can’t uphold the DoJ’s interpretation without relying on Section 5, but overruling the DoJ on this would all but eviscerate that section — and return the states under its aegis to the same voting-rights standards as every other state in the union, even if the Supreme Court doesn’t explicitly end Section 5, which the 2009 case showed they seriously considered doing at the time.

That wouldn’t be a bad outcome for anyone except Holder, Obama, and the radical activists on their staff at the DoJ’s Civil Rights division

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FluMom, I'd have a hard time voting for a flip flopped such as Romney. He reminds me of a slick used car salesman that will say anything to get you to sign on the dotted line. He was the Scott Brown of Massachusetts ten years ago.

Democrats Keep Focus on Romney
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OMG.....OBAMBA MUST GO!  As well as the corrupt DOJ Eric Holder
 
Just who is putting politics before Country and the Rule of Law????   December 29th Memo
So.. the federal government will not do the one job the Constitution specifically allows, But will sue the States if they try to uphold Federal Law.
Here In Arizona police detained illegal human smugglers for ICE to pick up. ICE then refuses to follow through because of new directives from the Department of Justice.
Putting the burden on the States.
"The new rule “is almost an obstruction of justice,” because it reduces the chance that the families of people victimized by illegal immigrants will ever see justice, said Vaughan"
 
Just who is putting politics before Country and the Rule of Law????   Please Read........

White House sets new obstacle to immigration enforcement

By Neil Munro Published: 1:51 PM 12/31/2011 | Updated: 1:53 PM 12/31/2011
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An administration Dec. 29 memo declares that illegal immigrants may have to be held until they’re convicted in local courts before the federal government will begin deportation proceedings.

The declaration “means lots of criminal aliens will be released if the locals don’t have the resources or inclination to prosecute, or if the [suspect] is found not guilty because of a technicality,” said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

Many absconders already settle in other states, and some commit additional crimes against Americans. In October, for example, an illegal immigrant from Bolivia was convicted or murdering a nun in a drunk-driving crash in Virginia.

Under long-standing laws, state officials are allowed to hold illegal immigrants for an extra 48 hours if federal immigration officers offer to take them into custody for subsequent deportation.

The new rule shows “the administration wants to give up one of the most important tools in preserving public safety,” said Krikorian. “We’ll have more and more instances of illegals released by police because [federal immigration officials] wouldn’t take them [and] who then go on to commit some heinous crime,” he said.

The U.S. hosts perhaps 9 million illegal immigrants, of which roughly 1.5 million illegals have committed major or minor crimes while staying in the country, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at the CIS.

The new rule complements administration efforts to spur Hispanic support for the 2012 election by relaxing enforcement of immigration laws.

President Barack Obama’s campaign aides frequently say they’re seeking Hispanic support to win crucial states, such as North Carolina and Arizona. On Dec. 19, for example, Obama’s campaign manager Jim Messina released a video in which he said Arizona was winnable because “hundreds of thousands” of people in the state have not registered to vote.

The campaign is using Hispanic ethnic lobbies, such as La Raza, to help register Hispanics and to persuade them to vote in November.

But the ethnic lobbies have their own demands.

They want easier immigration for their ethnic or religious groups, including Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Irish and Muslims.

The public and Congress oppose amnesty bills, so the lobbies’ demands have prompted administration officials to roll back enforcement of immigration laws.

In recent months, Eric Holder, the scandal-plagued Attorney General, has launched lawsuits against successful reforms implemented by several states — including Arizona — and has sued Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s police department in Arizona.

Janet Napolitano, who heads the Department of Homeland Security which oversees immigration enforcement, has also let her political deputies end routine checks of travelers in bus depots and has stopped legal proceedings against many illegals. Her department has also ordered immigration officials to largely ignore illegals who have not been convicted major crimes, and released the new memo Dec. 29.

These rollback policies are also being adopted despite the immigration reforms in Arizona and Alabama that have reduced the local unemployment rates.

The Dec. 29 memo announced a new 24-hour legal-aid hotline for illegal immigrants, but it also introduced a revised checklist for federal immigration officers.

The checklist is dubbed a “detainer” form, which federal officers have long used to request their state or local counterparts hold an illegal immigrant for an extra 48 hours beyond that allowed by local courts.

The new form includes a new box that federal officials can tick to make the detainer request conditional “upon the subject’s conviction.” The Dec. 29 memo says officials can “make the detainer operative only upon the individual’s conviction of the offense for which he or she was arrested.”

Translated, that new rule means Obama’s appointees say they may not allow federal immigration officers to accept illegal immigrants for deportation until after state and local officials detain, arraign, try and convict the suspects for the crimes they were initially arrested, said Vaughan.

But that trial process can take many months, and it is often abandoned once illegal-immigrant defendants — whom federal officers have declined to detain — skip bail or overburden local courts, she said. The new rule also increases the incentive for illegal-immigrant suspects to contest every legal step.

The new rule “is almost an obstruction of justice,” because it reduces the chance that the families of people victimized by illegal immigrants will ever see justice, said Vaughan.

Already, administration officials require local police to ignore likely illegal immigrants unless they have courtroom-ready evidence of illegality, she said. This month, for example, Arizona sheriff Arpaio announced that ICE officials have stopped accepting suspected illegals detained by his deputies in Arizona.

This new rule would allow the federal agencies to avoid detaining and deporting illegals even when police have courtroom-ready evidence of crimes, she said.

Political appointees in the ICE agency will use the new rule to pressure subordinate officers to refuse custody of illegals until they’ve been convicted by local courts, Vaughan said. The appointees have to pressure the immigration officers because those officers are already working to enforce the laws despite the other enforcement-rollback directives, she said.

That additional pressure is being applied already, because translated versions of the detainer form — including information about the new conviction rule and the hotline number — will be provided to apprehended suspects who can’t speak English, says the new memo.

The form will be translated for Spanish-speaking Hispanics, French-speaking Haitians, for Portuguese-speaking Africans and Brazilians, as well as Chinese speakers and Vietnamese, according to ICE.

Still, the political impact of the rollback policy is unclear because most Hispanics voters tell pollsters that their top political priorities are the economy and education, not immigration.

Those priorities give GOP candidates the opportunity to win perhaps 40 percent of votes from Hispanic communities. These communities include distinctly different groups, such as GOP-leaning Cubans and Democratic-dominated Puerto Ricans in Florida, Mexicans in California and El Salvadorian business-owners on the East Coast.

But pollsters also say Hispanics’ voting is also heavily influenced by candidates’ apparent insults or compliments of their community. That respect factor works to the Democrats’ advantage because many GOP candidates’ support for the enforcement of immigration law is portrayed by established media and Spanish-language media as personal animus towards Hispanics.

Obama’s approval among Hispanics is down from its 2008 level, but remains above 60 percent.

However, Obama’s campaign officials are worried that Hispanics who are disappointed with the stalled economy won’t turn out to vote in 2012 unless they also see a GOP presidential candidate as hostile to their ethnic group.

The effort to rollback enforcement of immigration law follows the refusal by the White House to push for an amnesty bill.

The White House balked, in part, because the public and Congress oppose any amnesty that would bring more low-skilled workers into an economy where unemployment is above 10 percent among low-skilled workers, Hispanics and African-Americans.

Unemployment is so high that fewer than 50 percent of African-American males aged between 20 and 30 have a full-time job.

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Here's an interesting tidbit!

On December 15, 2011, Defendant, President Barack Obama, moved for dismissal of Plaintiffs' challenge to his qualifications for office. The Court has jurisdiction to hear this contested case pursuant to Chapter 13 of Title 50, the "Georgia Administrative Procedure Act."
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I'm like my 88 yr old mama, "I'll vote for an old yeller dog against Obama!"

Still say only Romney can win against Obama because the independents can vote for him unlike all the other Candidates. Even Newt is to right for independents to vote for.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I'm like my 88 yr old mama, "I'll vote for an old yeller dog against Obama!"

Still say only Romney can win against Obama because the independents can vote for him unlike all the other Candidates. Even Newt is to right for independents to vote for.
Romney being  a member of a cult that believes in science fiction like beings traveling from planet to planet to planet colonizing their own people on those planets so they can become gods to the people will lose the Christian Reich, who will probably flee to a Third Party candidate. They just will not be able to vote for a member of a space cadet cult. Study Mormonism and you will understand why.

Of all the Republican candidates, Santorum is the least offensive. It is a shame that the Republicans have no better men or women to put into the contest.

In this case, Obama wins by default.
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This Affidavit Changes the Winner from Romney To Santorum!
www.watchthevote2012.com/AffidavitTrue.htm
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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

This Affidavit Changes the Winner from Romney To Santorum!
www.watchthevote2012.com/AffidavitTrue.htm


Santorum needs all the help he can get.   I see the contest for the Republican Presidential Candidate to be between Santorum and Romney.  Romney to me represents all that is evil about the greed of the Republican rich.

Santorum represents morality and old fashioned ethics that have long been absent in Republican leadership.

The Big Monied interests in the Republican Party will probably squash Santorum.

For the Christian Fundamentalists (The Christian Reich) they have a choice between a Mormon Cult Member and a Catholic (Which to many in the Christian Reich is a cult, too.)

Like that refined gentleman of 2000 years ago, Pilate,I wash my hands of the matter.



Matthew 27:24
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
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What a hateful thing to say Joe. I hope you wash your hands and keep your mouth shut.

American has freedom of religion and people like you would like to take that freedom away...what are you Joe a Liberal? No conservative would want to take the freedom of religion away from the American people.

We currently have a former Muslim as President so freedom is religion is a good thing. Hope we keep it that way!
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

What a hateful thing to say Joe. I hope you wash your hands and keep your mouth shut.

American has freedom of religion and people like you would like to take that freedom away...what are you Joe a Liberal? No conservative would want to take the freedom of religion away from the American people.

We currently have a former Muslim as President so freedom is religion is a good thing. Hope we keep it that way!


Will you please explain where you are coming from?  What you are posting makes absolutely no sense.  If you were a guy, I would suspect that you were heavily intoxicated.

There is not one thing hateful in what I posted.  Where would you get an outrageous idea like that?

How would I want to take freedom of religion away?  What gave you a crazy idea like that? There is absolutely noting in my post that would in any way hint that an abridgment of religion was desired or needed.

The only thing I can figure is that you are acting silly to make people laugh.

If you were trying to be serious than you owe me an apology.
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And Obama = STUPIDITY!
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Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:

And Obama = STUPIDITY!


Actually he is quite intelligent.  So far he has made all the right moves.  He has not made millions of artificial jobs to put people back to work, unlike FDR.  Jobs are gradually coming back and education for other jobs is readily available.  My hat is off to the man. I do not expect to vote for him, but he has earned my respect.
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Joe,
 
The fact that he hasn't made millions of artificial jobs in light of the trillions he has spent to do so is quite the problem.  His quantitative easing is bankrupting this country & we have nothing to show for it
 
If you voted for Obama to prove you're not a racist then vote for anyone else to prove you're not stupid!
 
 
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It would be nice to change the way the debates are held before the nomination of the Republican candidate for president this time around. Have each of the Republican candidates go head to head with Obama for an hour before the convention, and let's see who comes out on top. That way we can have a preview of who might best topple Obama in November. After all it our country, and their the supposed public servants. Why can't the 207,643,594 American voters ask 5 or 6 people for a little latitude in this years election process?
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It's funny Joe, the men and women in the military don't think Ron Paul is nuts! What do you know that they don't?

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Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:

Joe,
 
The fact that he hasn't made millions of artificial jobs in light of the trillions he has spent to do so is quite the problem.  His quantitative easing is bankrupting this country & we have nothing to show for it
 
If you voted for Obama to prove you're not a racist then vote for anyone else to prove you're not stupid!
 
 


Obama has not spent trillions to create artificial jobs.  That is simply pure bullsh!t.

Quantative easing has absolutely no effect on the solvency of the United States. Do you want to tell me where you get these most unusual ideas?

Why people come on boards like this and post outrageous lies I do not understand. 
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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

It's funny Joe, the men and women in the military don't think Ron Paul is nuts! What do you know that they don't?

Adherence To the Oath :60
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Totally untrue and nothing but lies from an insane man who thinks he is running for office.  Granted there are a lot to totally stupid people out there who jump on the Ron Paul bandwagon because they think that LSD, Crack Cocaine and Ecstasy should all be made legal.  They also do not want to go to war.  It is OK to be in the reserves when you do not have to go to Afghanistan, but when you are in Afghanistan and there is a candidate who says we should only fight on our own soil and we should let all of the terrorists go free, they will give vocal approval to a crazy lunatic like that.

As most of the intelligent people know, if we let the terrorists all go free, they will still attack us,  because they hate what we stand for.  They hate the concept of Democracy and know that it is not approved by the Koran. As long as we are not under a dictatorship of the Mullahs and saddled by Sharia Law then according to the Koran it is  OK to kill us.  Ron Paul is too stupid to understand that.  Senior military men like me are not that stupid.
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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

It would be nice to change the way the debates are held before the nomination of the Republican candidate for president this time around. Have each of the Republican candidates go head to head with Obama for an hour before the convention, and let's see who comes out on top. That way we can have a preview of who might best topple Obama in November. After all it our country, and their the supposed public servants. Why can't the 207,643,594 American voters ask 5 or 6 people for a little latitude in this years election process?


I do not see any way that any of those Greedy and morally corrupt Republican Candidates could carry more than six or seven highly corrupt states.

We are going to see an Obama landslide.
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