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    Posted: December 16 2012 at 7:21pm
I am so sorry for all of the children and adults killed by this very unstable kid. All of the families lives will never be the same.

Preppers are going to be attacked because Lanza's mom was a Prepper. That is why she had so many guns. Many people have guns but some are smart enough to have them in a gun safe or with trigger locks (with the key in a safe).

You need to especially take care to lock up if you have an unstable KID!

I have a teen but all of my guns are locked and my kid has NO ACCESS!

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Where did you read she was a prepper?
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Gunman's mother kept trials of home life hidden
By By ADAM GELLER

NEWTOWN, Conn

At the bar, everybody knew her name.

Nancy Lanza was the one who, if she heard you were short on cash, regularly offered to pick up the tab at My Place.

Two or three nights a week, Lanza � the mother of the gunman in Connecticut's horrific school massacre � came in for carryout salads, but stayed for Chardonnay and good humor. The divorced mother of two � still smooth-skinned and ash blonde at 52 � clearly didn't have to work, but was always glad to share talk of her beloved Red Sox, gardening and a growing enthusiasm for target shooting.

But while Lanza spoke proudly about her sons and brought them in for breakfast when they were younger, friends say she held one card very close: home life, especially its trials and setbacks, was off limits.

Now, the secrets Lanza kept are at the center of the questions that envelop this New England town, grieving over the slaughter unleashed by her 20-year-old son Adam, who investigators say killed his mother Friday with one of her own guns before murdering 26 children and teachers at a nearby school.

"Her family life was her family life. She kept it private, when we were together. That was her own thing," said Louise Tambascio, who runs the warmly lit pizzeria and bar with her own sons, and became a shopping and dining companion of Nancy Lanza's.

Friends had met Lanza's younger son, who stared down at the floor and didn't speak when she brought him in. They knew he'd switched schools more than once and that she'd tried home schooling him. But while she occasionally expressed concern about his future during evenings at the bar, she never complained about anything at all.

"I heard her as a parent. I always said that I wouldn't want to be in her shoes. But I thought, 'Wow. She holds it well,'" said Tambascio's son, John.

California resident Ryan Kraft told KCAL-TV in Los Angeles that when he was a teenager he lived a few doors down from the Lanza family and used to babysit Adam Lanza, then nine or 10 years old. He said the boy "struck me as an introverted kid."

"His mom Nancy had always instructed me to keep an eye on him at all times, never turn my back or even go to the bathroom or anything like that. Which I found odd but I really didn't ask; it wasn't any of my business," said Kraft, who lives in Hermosa Beach. "But looking back at it now, I guess there was something else going on."

Despite the challenges, the trappings of Lanza's life in Newtown were comfortable. When she and then-husband Peter Lanza moved to the central Connecticut community in 1998 from southern New Hampshire, they bought a brand new 3,100-square-foot colonial set on more than two acres in the Bennett's Farm neighborhood. Nancy Lanza had previously worked as a stock broker at John Hancock in Boston and her husband was a successful executive.

When the couple divorced in 2009, he left their spacious home to Nancy Lanza and told her she would never have to work another day in her life, said Marsha Lanza of Crystal Lake, Ill., Lanza's aunt. The split-up was not acrimonious and Adam spent time with both his mother and father, she said.

Those who knew Nancy Lanza recall her as very generous, often giving money to those she met and doing volunteer work.

When a mutual friend sought a loan from an acquaintance, Jim Leff, and Leff asked for collateral, Lanza intervened.

"Nancy overheard the discussion, and, unblinkingly, told him she'd just write him a check then and there," Leff recalled on his blog in a post after Lanza's death. "While I'm far from the most generous guy in the world, it's not often that I feel stingy. But I learned something from that. I should have just written him the check. She was right."

Mark Tambascio recalled the time Lanza invited him and his brother to attend a Boston Red Sox game, buying them tickets atop the outfield wall known as the Green Monster, and refusing any talk of repayment.

There were moments when she appeared carefree. Inside My Place on Sunday, friends passed around a book of photos from a 2008 sailing trip off Newport, R.I., including one showing Lanza, her eyes gently closed and head tilted back as the sea breeze blew through her hair. "Dreamer!" read the caption.

Neighbors knew her from the monthly gathering of women who rotated between homes for games of the dice game bunko. Lanza enthused about gardening, while poking fun of the fact that few could see the result because her house was set back from the road on a low rise, partly cloaked by trees.

"She used to give me a hard time, you know, because I put out all these Christmas lights, and she said, 'I put out mine, too, but you can't even see them,'" said Rhonda Cullens, who lives one street over.

Lanza also began telling friends that she'd bought guns and had taken up target shooting, John Tambascio said.

All three of the guns that Adam Lanza carried into Sandy Hook Elementary were owned and registered by his mother � a pair of handguns and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, his primary weapon.

Investigators said Sunday that Nancy Lanza visited shooting ranges several times and that her son also visited an area range.

Ginger Colbrun, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, said it's still not clear whether Nancy Lanza brought her son to the range or whether he ever fired a weapon there.

Marsha Lanza told the Chicago Sun-Times that Nancy Lanza wanted guns for protection. "She prepared for the worst," Marsha Lanza told the newspaper. "I didn't know that they (the guns) would be used on her."

Guns were her hobby," Dan Holmes, who got to know Lanza while doing landscaping work for her, told The Washington Post. "She told me she liked the single-mindedness of shooting."

But while trips to shooting ranges gave Lanza an outlet, she returned home to the ever-present challenges of raising a son with intractable problems.

At Newtown High School, Adam Lanza was often having crises that only his mother could defuse.

"He would have an episode, and she'd have to return or come to the high school and deal with it," said Richard Novia, the school district's head of security until 2008, who got to know the family because both Lanza sons joined the school technology club he chartered.

Novia said Adam Lanza would sometimes withdraw completely "from whatever he was supposed to be doing," whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.

Adam Lanza "could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn't a rebellious or defiant thing," Novia said. "It was withdrawal."

The club gave the boy a place where he could be more at ease and indulge his interest in computers. His anxieties appeared to ease somewhat, but they never disappeared. When people approached him in the hallways, he would press himself against the wall or walk in a different direction, clutching tight to his black briefcase.

Marsha Lanza described Nancy Lanza as a good mother.

"If he had needed consulting, she would have gotten it," Marsha Lanza said. "Nancy wasn't one to deny reality."

But friends and neighbors said Lanza never spoke about the difficulties of raising her son. Mostly she noted how smart he was and that she hoped, even with his problems, that he'd find a way to succeed.

"We never talked about the family," John Tambascio said. "She just came in to have a great time."

 
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'She would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him:' Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother

•Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns
•She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son
•Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles
•Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms
•Friend: Mrs Lanza 'would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him'

•Moved to Sandy Hook in around 1998 but Mrs Lanza and husband divorced
•Funerals for the young victims held today

•All schools in Ridgefield, Connecticut, were in lockdown today because of a suspicious person who might be armed, police said




By Tom Leonard and Jill Reilly

PUBLISHED: 19:03 EST, 16 December 2012 | UPDATED: 12:13 EST, 17 December 2012

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Not sure if this is true but it is out there so people will believe it.

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I've seen that she was going to commit his ass to the loony bin and that's why he went nuts.

It's about time we re-open the loony bins and get these wackos behind bars where they belong.

Them and Child Molesters.

Actually screw that. Just shoot the child molesters.
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There should be mental hospitals. There are so many ill people out on the streets in all cities. These people use to be in hospitals. That being said these hospitals would have to be closely watched since the menatlly ill can be taken advantage of.

As far as chld molesters...I agree...just shoot them.
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Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

I've seen that she was going to commit his ass to the loony bin and that's why he went nuts.

It's about time we re-open the loony bins and get these wackos behind bars where they belong.

 
Smartest thing I have heard on the subject to date TG.
 
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Whats worth more themoney or the 20 kids?
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I have a little personal experience with this kind of problem. Very Close family friend of mine has three boys, one is just off always has been. Is 19 now and about 4 months ago he shows up at my house physically shaking and emotionally very close to an emotional breakdown or atleast thats what it looked like to me. I sat with the boy for 2 hours and tried to ratioally talk him through things but just was not connecting. His dad gets off work and comes and picks him up and I told him you need to bring him to a professional right now. By this time the teen is somewhat back to normal and friend reacts with disbelief and blows me off. Three days later I get a call from his older brother that everything is expolding at the house with the teen and father so I go over and the teen is by now unable to rationalize right from wrong. After 2 hours of discussion I finally talked friend in to bringing him for an evaluation to the local hospital. I slend the next hour trying to rationalize with this teen to go to the hospital finall y we get there and just as were getting out of the car the teen refuses to go in and physicall attacks dad in the parking lot (thankfully no weapons available) he just snapped. the hospital security notice whats going on and help me drag the teen off Dad and we get him in to the hospital. The next 4 hours we wait for local hospital specialist to get to the hospital and perform an initial interview. The results were shocking, the teen admits on several occasions pacing outside the parents room in the middle of the night having thoughts of going in and doing harm to Dad as well as the other 2 boys in the house among other things. the person doing the interview after finishing commits him for the legqal 10-14 day assessment and warns Dad of physical threat to him. After the assessment they have no choice but to release him to a halfway house because thats all his dads insurance would cover and only for a short time as well as the facilty is not a long term facility (They have all been closed in the (70's and 80's). He goes to a private facilty and finds out the cost would be more than he makes for the whole year and his insurance is now done. the teen is back home and Dad is back to where he was before, I guess they call this unconditional love which I do understand having had children and now grandchildren.
 
theres a lot more to this story but I think you get the picture
 
I volunteered to take his weapons and keep them locked up at my house but he refused, in denial. Having second thoughts about friendship and whether its worth putting family in what looks to me like harms way. I just hope he doesnt go off like a school or theatre thing when he snaps next time.
 
Not many options for 90 percent of the population!!!!!!!!!!!     (financially)
 
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Well, if we're going to be forced at gunpoint (Literally) to pay for health insurance, we might as well put it to good use.

As a former cop, having to deal with the mentally unstable was a daily, sometimes, hourly occurrence.

We had one woman who had like twenty three distinct personalities all vying for control at any given moment.

One time we got called out for a rape in progress. She, in her slut personality, had met a nice man at a bar and took him home for some special one on one time. About halfway through the session, she switches gears into a hardcore racist personality and he was a black man who was currently inside her. To say things quickly got out of hand doesn't quite do what happened justice. We'll just say he got stabbed.

He ran to the bathroom with her in hot pursuit and got the door closed. She called the police from one phone, and he did the same from another. We got there and got him out and to the hospital. My sergeant had experience with her kind of crazy and asked for a more rational personality, who declined to press charges.

She has years worth of cuts all over her arms, one of the personalities is a self cutter and one is a raging psychopath. Think Hannibal Lector.

She has a, now, seventeen year old son. I can't imagine what that kid had to deal with having that nutcase as a mother. She should have been committed years ago, but she's out there........
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Biden will just come up with take all the guns out of our homes but NO MENTAL HEALTH HELP! Why... it is cheaper and easier to get our guns than put a 19+ crazy kid away.

Mahshadin's story is one of a million kids that are not all there. You can tell from the time they hit Kindergarten that something is wrong. Sometimes they grow out of it sometimes not. Parents for the most part ignore the fact that little Johnny or Sally are not right.

Been doing this too long and it is getting worse. Why because parents want to make kids HAPPY all the time no harsh words, no discipline and no parent just a friend.   This is not just in my school it is in all schools. How do I know this because teachers go to district and inter-district meetings and they are all saying the same thing. Wealthy or poor it is the same.

Obama will just want to take our guns and tell eveyone Obamacare will cure the mentally ill.
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Mental Health was abandoned 40 years ago and put on a path of big pharma has all the answers (NOT). There just is no help for average folks on this stuff and its a Real problem, but not the whole problem.
 
Its interesting how peoples opinions change over time and circumstances. Here are quoted remarks for a Self Described Republican (Conservative) Judge appointed by Bush who big time supported the supreme court second ammendment rulings. Im not a big fan of any gun control myself but it looks like both sides are starting to bend a little after this horrific event
 
Anf the Judge who Ruled over and sentenced Jered Loughner
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By Larry Alan Burns  Federal District Judge       December 20, 2012
 
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An assault weapon similar to the type used in the Newtown, Conn. shooting. (Joe Raedle / Getty Images / December 18, 2012)

Last month, I sentenced Jared Lee Loughner to seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years in federal prison for his shooting rampage in Tucson. That tragedy left six people dead, more than twice that number injured and a community shaken to its core.

Loughner deserved his punishment. But during the sentencing, I also questioned the social utility of high-capacity magazines like the one that fed his Glock. And I lamented the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban in 2004, which prohibited the manufacture and importation of certain particularly deadly guns, as well as magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

The ban wasn't all that stringent — if you already owned a banned gun or high-capacity magazine you could keep it, and you could sell it to someone else — but at least it was something.

And it says something that half of the nation's deadliest shootings occurred after the ban expired, including the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. It also says something that it has not even been two years since Loughner's rampage, and already six mass shootings have been deadlier.

I am not a social scientist, and I know that very smart ones are divided on what to do about gun violence. But reasonable, good-faith debates have boundaries, and in the debate about guns, a high-capacity magazine has always seemed to me beyond them.

Bystanders got to Loughner and subdued him only after he emptied one 31-round magazine and was trying to load another. Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter, chose as his primary weapon a semiautomatic rifle with 30-round magazines. And we don't even bother to call the 100-rounder that James Holmes is accused of emptying in an Aurora, Colo., movie theater a magazine — it is a drum. How is this not an argument for regulating the number of rounds a gun can fire?

I get it. Someone bent on mass murder who has only a 10-round magazine or revolvers at his disposal probably is not going to abandon his plan and instead try to talk his problems out. But we might be able to take the "mass" out of "mass shooting," or at least make the perpetrator's job a bit harder.

To guarantee that there would never be another Tucson or Sandy Hook, we would probably have to make it a capital offense to so much as look at a gun. And that would create serious 2nd Amendment, 8th Amendment and logistical problems.

So what's the alternative? Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it.

I say all of this as a gun owner. I say it as a conservative who was appointed to the federal bench by a Republican president. I say it as someone who prefers Fox News to MSNBC, and National Review Online to the Daily Kos. I say it as someone who thinks the Supreme Court got it right in District of Columbia vs. Heller, when it held that the 2nd Amendment gives us the right to possess guns for self-defense. (That's why I have mine.) I say it as someone who, generally speaking, is not a big fan of the regulatory state.

I even say it as someone whose feelings about the NRA mirror the left's feelings about Planned Parenthood: It has a useful advocacy function in our deliberative democracy, and much of what it does should not be controversial at all.

And I say it, finally, mindful of the arguments on the other side, at least as I understand them: that a high-capacity magazine is not that different from multiple smaller-capacity magazines; and that if we ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines one day, there's a danger we would ban guns altogether the next, and your life might depend on you having one.

But if we can't find a way to draw sensible lines with guns that balance individual rights and the public interest, we may as well call the American experiment in democracy a failure.

There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Gun enthusiasts can still have their venison chili, shoot for sport and competition, and make a home invader flee for his life without pretending they are a part of the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden.

It speaks horribly of the public discourse in this country that talking about gun reform in the wake of a mass shooting is regarded as inappropriate or as politicizing the tragedy. But such a conversation is political only to those who are ideologically predisposed to see regulation of any kind as the creep of tyranny. And it is inappropriate only to those delusional enough to believe it would disrespect the victims of gun violence to do anything other than sit around and mourn their passing. Mourning is important, but so is decisive action.

Congress must reinstate and toughen the ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

 
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NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) - He was the awkward kid who wore the same clothes to school every day.

He rarely spoke and even gave a school presentation entirely by computer, never uttering a word.

He liked tinkering with computers and other gadgets, and seemed to enjoy playing a violent video game, choosing a military-style assault rifle as one of his weapons.

New details about Adam Lanza emerged as Newtown wrapped up a wrenching week of farewells, with funerals scheduled Saturday for three of the slain children. Lanza slaughtered 20 children and six adults during the Dec. 14 rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Lanza also fatally shot his mother before blasting his way into Sandy Hook, and killed himself after the school massacre.

In high school, Lanza would walk through the hallways, awkwardly pressing himself against the wall while wearing the same green shirt and khaki pants every day. He hardly ever talked to his classmates.

"As long as I knew him, he never really spoke," said Daniel Frost, who took a computer class with Lanza and remembered his skill with electronics. Lanza could take apart and reassemble a computer in a matter of minutes

Lanza seemed to spend most of his time in the basement of the home he shared with his mother, who kept a collection of guns there, said Russell Ford, a friend of Nancy Lanza's who had done chimney and pipe work on the house.

Nancy Lanza was often seen around town and regularly met friends at a local restaurant. But her 20-year-old son was seldom spotted around town, Ford and other townspeople said.

The basement of the Lanza home had a computer, flat-screen TV, couches and an elaborate setup for video games. Nancy Lanza kept her guns in what appeared to be a secure case in another part of the basement, said Ford, who often met her and other friends at a regular Tuesday gathering at My Place, a local restaurant.

During the past year and a half, Ford said, Nancy Lanza had told him that she planned to move out West and enroll Adam in a "school or a center." The plan started unfolding after Adam turned 18.

"She knew she needed to be near him," Ford said. "She was trying to do what was positive for him."

Ford said Nancy Lanza didn't elaborate on what type of services she wanted her son to receive. He said she made fewer appearances at the restaurant in recent months.

Mark Tambascio, owner of My Place, said Nancy Lanza described the same plan to him, saying she might move to Washington State.

Back in high school, Frost recalled, someone brought in a video game called "Counter-Strike," a shooting video game in which players compete against each other as either terrorists or counter-terrorists.

Lanza "seemed pretty interested in the game," Frost said, and would play it with other students. He remembers the weapons Lanza chose: an M4 military-style assault rifle and a Glock handgun.

Authorities said Lanza used a military-style assault rifle and carried handguns during the rampage at the school. They still have no clear reason why Lanza would lash out at defenseless first-graders and their caretakers.

State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said a final report on the investigation could be months away.

A moment of silence was held Friday in remembrance of those killed at the school. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy gathered with other officials in rain and wind on the steps of the Edmond Town Hall as the bell rang. Similar commemorations took place across the country.

Also on Friday, the National Rifle Association called for armed police officers to be stationed at schools. Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the nation's largest gun-rights lobbing group, said at a Washington news conference that "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

LaPierre blamed video games, music and videos for exposing children to violence.

The founder of a video game website said he expects tens of thousands of players of online shooter games to participate in a 24-hour cease-fire that started at noon Friday. Antwand Pearman, founder of GamerFitNation, said the cease-fire is meant to show respect for those killed in the Newtown shooting. He said video games don't cause violence.

Services are scheduled Saturday in Connecticut for 7-year-old Josephine Gay and 6-year-old Ana Marquez-Greene. A service was also planned in Utah for 6-year-old Emilie Parker.

A spokeswoman for the Connecticut Funeral Directors Association says the last victim funerals it knows of are taking place Saturday, although some of the burials are private.

 
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