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If all info is accurate, this outbreak is officially over.   Not a bad drill, lol.

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January 12, 2020 / 6:06 PM / Updated 4 hours ago
China pneumonia outbreak not spreading at present - WHO

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LONDON/BEIJING (Reuters) - An outbreak of pneumonia that has killed one person in China and infected 40 others appears to be linked to a single seafood market in the central city of Wuhan and has not spread beyond there so far, the World Health Organisation said on Sunday.

The cluster of infections had raised fears of a potential epidemic after China said last week that the virus causing it was a previously unknown type but came from the same family of viruses that caused the SARS and MERS epidemics.

However, the WHO said the outbreak had not spread. The seafood market in Wuhan - a major domestic and international transport hub - is now closed and no cases have been reported elsewhere in China or internationally, it said.

“The evidence is highly suggestive that the outbreak is associated with exposures in one seafood market in Wuhan,” the WHO statement said, adding that the market was closed on Jan. 1. “At this stage, there is no infection among healthcare workers, and no clear evidence of human to human transmission.”

The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said in a separate statement late on Sunday that 4 additional patients have been released and that no new cases have been discovered as of Saturday.

Another 717 people deemed to be in close contact with the patients remain under medical observation, the authority said.

The WHO said last week that a newly emerging member of the ‘coronavirus’ family of viruses that caused the deadly Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) outbreaks was the likely cause of the outbreak.

Coronaviruses can cause infections ranging from the common cold to SARS. Some types cause less serious disease, while others can be far more severe.

Among 41 people confirmed as infected with the new viral pneumonia, one - a 61-year-old man with serious underlying medical conditions - died last week. Seven others are in critical condition, the Wuhan health authorities said.

The WHO said preliminary epidemiological investigations had found most cases were in people who either worked at or were frequent visitors to Wuhan’s Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market.

“To date, investigations are still under way to assess the full extent of the outbreak,” it added.


Source:   https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-china-virus/china-virus-outbreak-linked-to-seafood-market-not-currently-spreading-who-idUKKBN1ZB0LY
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[Hmmm..... Not quite, it seems]

WHO: First Case of New Virus Behind China Outbreak Found in Thailand

By Agence France-Presse
January 13, 2020 10:20 AM

GENEVA, SWITZERLAND - The World Health Organization confirmed Monday the first case in Thailand of a new virus from the same family as SARS that is behind a Chinese pneumonia outbreak.

The U.N. health agency said a person traveling from Wuhan, China, had been hospitalized in Thailand on January 8 after being diagnosed with mild pneumonia.

"Laboratory testing subsequently confirmed that the novel coronavirus was the cause," WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic told AFP in an email, referring to the new virus.

WHO said it might soon host an emergency meeting on the spread of the new virus.

The case marks the first outside of China, where 41 people with pneumonia-like symptoms have so far been diagnosed with the new virus in the central city of Wuhan, with one of the victims dying last Thursday.

The episode has caused alarm due to the specter of SARS, or Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome, which in 2002-2003 killed 349 people in mainland China and another 299 in Hong Kong, whose economy was hit hard by the epidemic's devastating impact on tourism.

The WHO has confirmed that the outbreak in China has been caused by a previously unknown type of corona virus, a broad family ranging from the common cold to more serious illnesses like SARS.

The agency said Monday it had been informed by Thai health officials that the patient there was recovering from the illness.

It stressed that it was not surprising that the virus had spread beyond China.

"The possibility of cases being identified in other countries was not unexpected, and reinforces why WHO calls for on-going active monitoring and preparedness in other countries," it said in a statement.

It pointed out that it had issued guidance on how to detect and treat people who fall ill with the new virus, and stressed that China's decision to rapidly share the genetic sequencing of the virus made it possible to quickly diagnose patients.

WHO has not recommended any specific measures for travelers or restrictions on trade with China, but stressed Monday it was taking the situation seriously.

"Given developments, WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus will consult with Emergency Committee members and could call for a meeting of the committee on short notice," it said in a statement.


Source:   https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/who-first-case-new-virus-behind-china-outbreak-found-thailand
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Must be fake news.   China has clearly stated market closed down for two weeks with no new cases and absolutely no human transmission.   How can this be possible? lol
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I suppose the planet will have to wait now,

until a real "Slate Wiper"

Rids the earth.......

Of the virus that is the human race......

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"Separately on Tuesday, the World Health Organization (WHO) said for the first time that there appeared to have been limited person-to-person transmission of the virus, according to Reuters news agency".

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Mystery virus from China which has put UK hospitals on alert

It comes as the World Health Organisation (WHO) issued guidance on the case

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14:34, 15 JAN 2020

The virus is currently affecting people in China

Hospitals across the UK have been warned to prepare for cases of a fatal and mystery virus that is currently affecting people in China.

HullLive reports that people across the country have been hospitalised because of the unknown virus which has killed one person and there are now fears that it could spread across the world.

It comes after the World Health Organisation (WHO) told hospitals worldwide to prepare for cases outside of China.

So far there have been 41 cases in Wuhan City, in south east China, since December.

One case has now been detected in Thailand.

It was initially thought that the virus had been caught by contact with animals, but the WHO now believes it may be contagious between humans.

The WHO has given guidance to hospitals across the world on how to contain the virus if cases are detected.

Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, acting head of WHO's emerging diseases unit, said: "This is something on our radar, it is possible, we need to prepare ourselves."

The first case was detected on December 31 last year.

The unknown virus causes cold-like symptoms including a runny nose, headache, cough, sore throat and a fever.
Symptoms of the virus include a runny nose, headache, cough, sore throat and a fever.

Possible cases have been detected in Hong Kong and Singapore.

WHO has ruled out the unknown virus being SARS, bird flu, MERS or adenovirus.

Source:   https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mystery-virus-china-put-uk-3741877
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China's new SARS-like virus has spread to Japan, but we still know very little about it
By Nectar Gan, CNN
Updated 3:57 AM EST, Thu January 16, 2020


(CNN)Fears are mounting across Asia over the cross-border spread of a new coronavirus identified in China that has killed one patient and sickened dozens, as health authorities race to identify the source of the pathogen.

The new strain of coronavirus, in the same family as the deadly severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), originated in Wuhan, the largest city in central China. It was confirmed Thursday to have been detected in Japan, a few days after Thailand confirmed its first case of infection.

The outbreak has cast a shadow over Lunar New Year celebrations and put the rest of Asia on alert. Virologists around the world are now studying its genome sequence shared by Chinese researchers, but many questions still remain.


Researchers have yet to rule out the possibility that the virus could be transmitted from person to person, and on Wednesday, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a Watch Level 1 Alert -- the lowest of a three-tier travel health notices that warns visitors of Wuhan to "be aware and practice usual precautions."

Two cases detected outside China
On Thursday, Japanese authorities confirmed that a man who had traveled to Wuhan was infected with the virus.

The man, in his 30s, lives in the coastal Kanagawa Prefecture just south of Tokyo. He developed a high fever on January 3 while in Wuhan, and returned three days later to Japan, where he was tested positive for the virus, according to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.

He has since recovered and was discharged from hospital on Wednesday, the ministry said. He said he had not visited the seafood market linked to the outbreak while in Wuhan.

The confirmation comes just days after Thai authorities said a Chinese tourist arriving from Wuhan had been quarantined with the new virus, the first time it had been detected outside China.

According to the World Health Organization, the 61-year-old woman also said she had not been to the seafood market in Wuhan. But she did report "a history of visiting a local fresh market in Wuhan on a regular basis prior to the onset of illness" on January 5, the WHO said in a statement.

The first, and the majority, of the infected cases in Wuhan have been traced to the Nanhua Wholesale Seafood Market, which has been shut down for disinfection since January 1. Wuhan health authorities said on Wednesday that some "environmental samples" taken from the market tested positive for the virus.

Apart from fish, the market also sold other live animals, including birds, rabbits and snakes -- sparking concerns that the virus might have been transmitted to humans from animals, just like SARS and MERS.

The seafood market at the center of China's pneunomia outbreak has been closed down.
Leo Poon, a virologist at the University of Hong Kong who was among the first to decode the SARS coronavirus, said the Thai case suggests two possibilities: the woman was either infected by an animal in another market, or by another person.

The first possibility would mean that the source of the new virus is more widespread than authorities previously believed, and the second would indicate its ability to transmit between humans -- which could turn a local outbreak into a global pandemic.

"I think the first possibility is more likely," Poon said. "This also reiterates the issue of food safety -- the risk of selling exotic animals in markets should be assessed now and new policy should be established as soon as possible."

China -- and the world -- has paid a heavy price for the consumption of wild animals. The SARS epidemic from November 2002 to July 2003 killed 774 people after spreading to 37 countries. The coronavirus was traced to the civet cat, a wild animal considered a delicacy in parts of southern China, where the epidemic began.

But Professor Poon and other experts in Hong Kong said the possibility of human-to-human transmission cannot be excluded.

Can it be transmitted between humans?
The question of transmission between humans is particularly crucial as China's busy Lunar New Year travel season has recently begun. Hundreds of millions of Chinese are expected to be crammed into trains, buses and planes for family reunions. Millions of Chinese are also expected to travel overseas around Lunar New Year, which falls on January 25.

Chinese health authorities and the WHO had long maintained that there is no "obvious evidence" of human-to-human transmission, and that no health care workers have been infected by the new coronavirus. But early on Friday, while maintaining the lack of clear evidence of such a transmission, Wuhan health authorities said in an announcement that "the possibility of human to human transmission cannot be excluded."

It reported a case where a couple were infected by the new coronavirus. The husband, who caught the illness first, worked at the Nanhua Wholesale Seafood Market, but the wife said she had no direct exposure to the market. A few other infected patients also denied they had any exposure to the market.

Migrant workers wait outside the Guangzhou train station before returning home because of the worry over SARS during the deadly epidemic in 2003.
To gain more understanding of the outbreak, a group of Hong Kong experts traveled to Wuhan this week to meet with Chinese authorities and visit the hospital where those infected were quarantined.

Chuang Shuk-kwan, head of the Communicable Disease department at Hong Kong's Centre for Health Protection, said that it is possible that the husband had transmitted the disease to his wife a few days after he was infected, and therefore human-to-human transmission cannot be ruled out.

But the risk of sustained transmission between humans is low, given that no medical workers have been infected, Chuang said at a press conference on Wednesday.

Not as lethal as SARS
For now, the new coronavirus appears to not be as lethal or contagious as SARS or MERS. Its symptoms are mainly fever and coughing, with a number of patients having difficulty breathing.

A mysterious virus is making China (and the rest of Asia) nervous. It's not SARS, so what is it?
As of Thursday, six patients remain in critical condition. Among them, some have renal and liver failures, and two are relying on life support, said Raymond Lai Wai-man, the chief infection control officer of the Hong Kong Hospital Authority, who is among the group that visited Wuhan.

Compared with 2003, when Chinese officials initially covered up the extent of the SARS outbreak, authorities in the country have been more open and timely in sharing information this time around.

Apart from inviting experts from Hong Kong and Taiwan to visit Wuhan, Chinese researchers have also shared the genome sequence of the new coronavirus with the WHO.

"Additional investigation is needed to ascertain the presence of human-to-human transmission, modes of transmission, common source of exposure and the presence of asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases that are undetected," the WHO said in the statement. "It is critical to review all available information to fully understand the potential transmissibility among humans."

CNN's Junko Ogura contributed to this report.
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Absolutely no doubt that China has lied about limited h2h transmission, but that's just the way they operate and it's no surprise. They will also withhold random cases without reporting. Why the WHO defends them or is unaware of these things makes them look a little inept. After all, a few days ago the WHO was praising them for containing it and China's transparency in it all, and meanwhile other cases pop up outside of China. Typical...

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'Sars-family' virus claims second victim in China

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A second person has died in China from a new, pneumonia-like virus, local officials have announced.


They say the death was recorded in the eastern city of Wuhan, where the outbreak began in December.

Meanwhile, Japan confirmed its first case of the virus - the second country outside China after Thailand to do so.

The disease has been identified as a coronavirus, which can cause illnesses ranging from common colds to the potentially deadly Sars.

The new virus has infected dozens of people, and many cases have been linked to a fish market in Wuhan. The market was closed on 1 January.

Sars - severe acute respiratory syndrome - killed more than 700 people around the world during an outbreak in 2002-03, after originating in China.

In total, it infected more than 8,000 people in 26 countries. China has been free of Sars since May 2004.

Unconfirmed reports on social media say the latest victim was 69 years old.

What about the Japanese case?

The Japanese authorities say the man in his 30s recently travelled to Wuhan.

They say he lives near Tokyo, without identifying him. Local media say he is a Chinese national.

It is not yet clear whether the virus can be transmitted between humans.

Earlier this week, a woman in Thailand became the first person outside China diagnosed with the virus.

The woman - who has not been named - was quarantined after landing in Bangkok from Wuhan.


Source:   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51141007

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China's Mystery Virus Has Now Been Confirmed in Japan

HIROSHI HIYAMA, AFP 16 JAN 2020

Japan has confirmed a case of a mystery virus that first emerged in China and is from the same family as the deadly SARS pathogen, authorities said Thursday.

It appears to be only the second time the novel coronavirus has been detected outside China, after the World Health Organization (WHO) confirmed a case in Thailand.

Japan's health ministry said a man who had visited the central Chinese city of Wuhan, the apparent epicentre of the outbreak, was hospitalised on January 10, four days after his return to Japan. He reported a persistent fever.

Tests on the patient, who was released from hospital on Wednesday, confirmed he was infected with the new virus.

"This is the first domestic discovery of a pneumonia case related to the new coronavirus," the ministry said in a statement.

"We will continue active epidemiological research while also coordinating efforts with the World Health Organization and related agencies to conduct a risk assessment."

The outbreak has killed one person so far, with 41 patients reported in Wuhan. [Technophobe: I believe the death toll is actually now two.]

The outbreak has caused alarm because the new virus is from the same family as the pathogen that causes SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome), which killed 349 people in mainland China and 299 in Hong Kong in 2002 and 2003.

Authorities in Wuhan said a seafood market was the centre of the outbreak. It was closed on January 1.

Japanese authorities said the man had not visited the market and that it was possible he had been in contact with a person infected with the virus while in Wuhan.

Outbreak in Japan 'unlikely'

Health ministry official Eiji Hino*****a told reporters that the risk of the disease spreading from the patient was considered low, with careful checks done on those who had been in close contact with him.

"At this point, we feel it is unlikely this will lead to a dramatic outbreak," he said, adding that the patient was no longer suffering a fever and was recuperating at home.

Officials declined to give further information on the man, including his nationality, citing privacy concerns.

Local media said the patient was a Chinese national in his 30s living in Kanagawa, just southwest of Tokyo.

Public broadcaster NHK said he had already recovered and was resting at home, as quarantine officials at Tokyo's Narita airport boosted health checks on all travellers.

The health ministry urged people who develop a cough or fever after visiting Wuhan to wear a surgical mask and "swiftly visit a medical institution".

Hino*****a said Japan would need to be on guard ahead of the Lunar New Year, a popular travel period in China.

"It is expected that Japan will see many visitors from China," he said.

It is not yet clear whether the mystery virus can be transmitted between humans, but on Wednesday authorities said it was possible it had spread inside a family.


The woman diagnosed in Thailand, who is in a stable condition, also said she had not visited the Wuhan seafood market.

And WHO doctor Maria Van Kerkhove on Tuesday said she "wouldn't be surprised if there was some limited human-to-human transmission, especially among families who have close contact with one another".

Hong Kong authorities on Tuesday said several dozen people had been hospitalised with fever or respiratory symptoms after travelling to Wuhan, but no cases of the new virus have so far been confirmed.


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Hong Kong authorities on Tuesday said several dozen people had been hospitalised with fever or respiratory symptoms after travelling to Wuhan, but no cases of the new virus have so far been confirmed.



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Hello.

I am glad to find this chan.


I am Jac Wong from Wuhan.

Believe me please. More people than 27 are sick. I am one, but I know 5 more personally. I never went to a seafood market. China is covering up the extent of this. I do not know what caused. I feel like I have a very sore throat, have lost my voice and feel weighted down by headache and fatigue. I fear it will get worse soon. Will update.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7900047/Scientists-fear-4-500-Chinese-patients-caught-coronavirus.html

Bear in mind that news is from the daily mail?

The numbers might be out, DM is not the best newspaper,

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[I share your lack of faith in our tabloid press, Carbon, but in this case, in light of this article, I am prepared to suspend disbelief this time.]

Public Health Screening to Begin at 3 U.S. Airports for 2019 Novel Coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”)

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department of Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will implement enhanced health screenings to detect ill travelers traveling to the United States on direct or connecting flights from Wuhan, China. This activity is in response to an outbreak in China caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (2019 nCoV), with exported cases to Thailand and Japan.

Starting January 17, 2020, travelers from Wuhan to the United States will undergo entry screening for symptoms associated with 2019-nCoV at three U.S. airports that receive most of the travelers from Wuhan, China: San Francisco (SFO), New York (JFK), and Los Angeles (LAX) airports.

“To further protect the health of the American public during the emergence of this novel coronavirus, CDC is beginning entry screening at three ports of entry. Investigations into this novel coronavirus are ongoing and we are monitoring and responding to this evolving situation,” said Martin Cetron, M.D., Director of CDC’s Division of Global Migration and Quarantine.

Based on current information, the risk from 2019-nCoV to the American public is currently deemed to be low. Nevertheless, CDC is taking proactive preparedness precautions.

Entry screening is part of a layered approach used with other public health measures already in place to detect arriving travelers who are sick (such as detection and reporting of ill travelers by airlines during travel and referral of ill travelers arriving at a US port of entry by CBP) to slow and reduce the spread of any disease into the United States.

CDC is deploying about 100 additional staff to the three airports (SFO, JFK, and LAX) to supplement existing staff at CDC quarantine stations located at those airports.

CDC is actively monitoring this situation for pertinent information about the source of outbreak, and risk for further spread through person-to-person or animal-to-person transmission. CDC may adjust screening procedures and other response activities as this outbreak investigation continues and more is learned about the newly emerging virus. Entry screening alone is not a guarantee against the possible importation of this new virus but is an important public health tool during periods of uncertainty and part of a multilayered government response strategy. As new information emerges, CDC will reassess entry screening measures and could scale activities up or down accordingly.

On Jan. 11, 2020, CDC updated a Level 1 Travel Health Notice (“practice usual precautions”) for travelers to Wuhan City and an updated Health Alert to health care professionals and public health partners with new and updated guidance is forthcoming.

China health officials report that most of the patients infected with 2019-nCoV have had exposure to a large market where live animals were present, suggesting this is a novel virus that has jumped the species barrier to infect people. Chinese authorities additionally report that several hundred health care workers caring for outbreak patients are being monitored and no spread of this virus from patients to health care workers has been seen. They report no sustained spread of this virus in the community, however there are indications that some limited person-to-person spread may have occurred. CDC is responding to this outbreak out of an abundance of caution, ready to detect people infected with 2019-CoV.

For the latest information on the outbreak, visit CDC’s Novel Coronavirus 2019 website:   https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/novel-coronavirus-2019.html


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[This is Carbon's article - minus the attendant pictures and graphics (Sorry but I can't upload them. If you want them follow Carbon's link.). As you can tell from all the yellow, it contains a wealth of new information (THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CARBON!). The only bit that is not news is that the information from China is patchy at best; which should have been expected on China's past behaviour.]

Scientists fear up to 4,500 Chinese patients may have caught the new coronavirus as health chiefs in Wuhan confirm four more cases

    Health officials confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48
    Imperial College London researchers say the true toll is likely to be much higher
    They estimated there have been 1,700 cases of the coronavirus, and up to 4,000
This was based on the fact three cases have been recorded outside of China

By Vanessa Chalmers Health Reporter For Mailonline

Published: 17:11, 17 January 2020 | Updated: 18:49, 17 January 2020

Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear.

Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak which started in December – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48.

But Imperial College London researchers say this may be the 'tip of the iceberg' after analysing flights out of the city.

Experts say the fact three Chinese tourists have tested positive for the virus outside Wuhan indicates the disease toll may be higher than reported.

They estimated there has been 1,700 cases of the coronavirus – which has never before seen in humans. But they added it could have passed 4,000.

Thailand today announced a second confirmed case of the coronavirus in a woman who had travelled from Wuhan. Japan reported its first case on Thursday.

Two men in their sixties in Wuhan have already died in the outbreak, which has left health chiefs scrambling to contain the virus amid fears it will spread.

Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear. Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48

People carrying the novel coronavirus may only have mild symptoms and assume they have a common cold, British scientists warned.

Some 1.4billion Chinese citizens will be travelling abroad during Lunar New Year.

Professor Neil Ferguson, who led the research, told MailOnline: 'Our main estimate is 1,700, but the range means we are 95 per cent sure the real number relies within 190 and over 4,000.

'I became more concerned when cases were detected in places other than China. Generally when we see cases overseas it implies there are more cases.

'There have been three cases detected overseas. There is about one in 600 chance each case would happen to be getting on a plane and going somewhere.

'If that’s the case, it would imply there is 1,700 cases in Wuhan itself. Which is a lot more that has been so far confirmed. There have to be a lot more cases.'

A total of 48 people who have pneumonia-like symptoms have now tested positive for the coronavirus, Wuhan Municipal Health Commission has said.

Four new cases were revealed today, all of whom were male and fell ill between January 5 and 8, and hospitalised between January 8 and 13. They are now in a stable condition at Jinyintan Hospital.

'We don’t know if this is the tip of the iceberg. We need more information, we only have scant details,' Professor Ferguson said.

He investigated the spate of cases in Wuhan city with colleagues at MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis and Modelling, a branch of Imperial College London which provides advice for new diseases.

Using flight data, they reported that 3,300 people in Wuhan fly internationally per day, and Wuhan International Airport has a catchment population of 19million individuals.

Based on these figures, and the time it takes for symptoms to onset, they calculated that there is only a one in 574 chance that a person infected in Wuhan would travel overseas before they sought medical care in their holiday destination.

Using the number of cases detected outside China, researchers estimated how many people within Wuhan city may carry the virus.

Three travellers from Wuhan have tested positive for the coronavirus outside China, which implies there might have been over 1,700 cases in Wuhan so far.

But researchers add the estimated figure could be anywhere from 190 cases to 4,471 based on different scenarios.

The report concludes: 'It is likely that the Wuhan outbreak of a novel coronavirus has caused substantially more cases of moderate or severe respiratory illness than currently reported.'

The new coronavirus, which is yet to be named, causes cold-like symptoms including a runny nose, headache, cough, sore throat and a fever.

Professor Ferguson said: 'It's winter, it’s an enormous city with lots of people with cold and flu. People would realise they were feeling ill, but not that they have the coronavirus.

'We want to start recommendation from this that surveillance needs to be enhanced across the city, looking for people that are reporting even flu-like symptoms.

'They need to start looking generally in hospitals for people with respiratory symptoms – that might be happening already but we don’t know.'

Forty-five cases have been contained in the Chinese city of Wuhan since December. The majority of patients have been traced to the Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market

Some 1.4billion Chinese citizens will be travelling abroad during Lunar New Year. Airports have stepped up surveillance, including in Japan

The second case in Thailand was reported on January 17. A 74-year-old tourist was intercepted at Thailand's biggest airport Suvarnabhumi. Pictured, Bangkok airport staff performing thermal scans on a traveller

GERMAN RESEARCHERS DEVELOP FIRST TEST FOR NEW VIRUS IN CHINA

Scientists scrambling to contain the outbreak of the mystery virus have developed the first diagnostic test for doctors.

Virologists in Germany claim the test will allow laboratories to diagnose the 'novel' coronavirus in a 'very short period of time'.

World Health Organization chiefs will share details of the test with countries around the world, amid fears cases may crop up in other nations.

Laboratories can order a molecule from the team AT Berlin's Charite hospital to compare patient samples with that of an infected adult.

Following its online publication by the WHO, the test protocol will now serve as a guideline for laboratories.

Dr Christian Drosten, a virologist at the institute, said: 'We have just started receiving orders and are now starting to post the molecule.'

So far, doctors have only been able to perform a general virus test and then had to sequence and interpret the genome, which takes time.

The report added that if cases are this high, substantial human to human transmission can't be ruled out.

It flies in the face of statements from the World Health Organization (WHO), which state there is 'limited' to zero evidence that humans can spread the virus.

Investigations have focused on animals as the source because the majority of the infected patients in Wuhan have been traced to the Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market, which has been shut down since January 1.

The WHO has said 'much remains to be understood' about the coronavirus, which has been described as 'novel'.   

Although the genetic sequence of the strain has now been released, scientists are still questioning how deadly it is, and whether it can be spread between humans.

Professor Ferguson said information like this tends to come to light around one month after the outbreak begins, but relies heavily on co-operation from China.

He said: 'We need more systemic data from China. Their only really two weeks from discovering this and I suspect they are focusing on collecting data.

'We really don’t know the spectrum for the disease severity is.'

Fears of global spread have increased after Thailand announced it has detected a second case of the virus in a 74-year-old woman.
Local authorities have confirmed that a second person in Wuhan has died of a pneumonia-like virus since the outbreak started in December.

Authorities said she had been quarantined since her arrival at Thailand's biggest airport Suvarnabhumi on January 13. She lived in Wuhan.

She is being treated in the same hospital, east of Bangkok, as a Chinese woman who was diagnosed with the virus after entering the country last week.

The 61-year-old, also from Wuhan, was the first case of the coronavirus to be detected outside of China on January 8.

Yesterday, Japan's health ministry announced its first case, a man who had been hospitalised with pneumonia symptoms after travelling to Wuhan earlier this month.

Though the known cases of the pneumonia outbreak so far involve only individuals who have travelled to or live in Wuhan, the WHO has warned that a wider outbreak is possible.

It comes just days before Lunar New Year holidays next week, when nearly a million Chinese visitors are expected to arrive in Thailand.

Some 1.4billion Chinese citizens will be travelling abroad, leaving airports scrambling to implement surveillance in Singapore, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Thailand and Japan.

The first patient diagnosed with the novel strain, a 61-year-old man, died on January 9. The second death, a man known only as Xiong, died on January 15.

Both suffered other health problems, the former from abdominal tumours and chronic liver disease and the latter of severe cardiomyopathy – a heart condition, abnormal kidney function, and seriously damaged organs.

But it is not clear if these were complications of the virus or underlying conditions.


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THE NEW CORONAVIRUS IN CHINA TIMELINE

December 31 2019: The WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China. Around 44 suspected cases were reported in the month of December.

January 1 2020: A seafood market was closed for environmental sanitation and disinfection after being closely linked with the patients.

January 5 2020: Doctors ruled out severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) as being the cause of the virus, as well as bird flu, Middle East respiratory syndrome and adenovirus. Meanwhile, Hong Kong reported

January 9 2020: A preliminary investigation identified the respiratory disease as a new type of coronavirus, Chinese state media reported.

Officials at Wuhan Municipal Health Commission reported the outbreak's first death on January 9, a 61-year-old man.

January 13 2020: A Chinese woman in Thailand was the first confirmed case of the mystery virus outside of China. The 61-year-old was quarantined on January 8, but has since returned home in a stable condition after having treatment, the Thai Health Ministry said.

January 14 2020: The WHO told hospitals around the globe to prepare, in the 'possible' event of the infection spreading.

It said there is some 'limited' human-to-human transmission of the virus. Two days previously, the UN agency said there was 'no clear evidence of human to human transmission'.

January 16 2020: A man in Tokyo is confirmed to have tested positive for the disease after travelling to the Chinese city of Wuhan.

A second death, a 69-year-old man, was reported by officials at Wuhan Municipal Health Commission. He died in the early hours of January 15 at Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan city having first been admitted to hospital on December 31.

January 17 2020: Thailand announces it has detected a second case. The 74-year-old woman had been quarantined since her arrival on Monday. She lived in Wuhan.
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And the Mass Migration for Chinese New Year begins.............................................     
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Oh, Yeah....

Welcome aboard jac_wong ! VERY, VERY PLEASED TO HAVE YOU!
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BBC News - New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51148303
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From the link Carbon posted.

Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

While the outbreak is centred on Wuhan, there have been two cases in Thailand and one in Japan.

"That caused me to worry," said Prof Ferguson.

He added: "For Wuhan to have exported three cases to other countries would imply there would have to be many more cases than have been reported."

It is impossible to get the precise number, but outbreak modelling, which is based on the virus, the local population and flight data, can give an idea.

Wuhan International Airport serves a population of 19 million people, but only 3,400 a day travel internationally.

The detailed calculations, which have been posted online ahead of publication in a scientific journal, came up with a figure of 1,700 cases.


The estimate of 1 700 cases is less than a previous reported estimate of over 4 000 cases, but in anyways both are vastly more than being reported.
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Have to think about the passengers on the plane....

Where are they?

Have they been on a few planes?


And they still havnt given it a Name.

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More cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in the Chinese city of Wuhan and a second person has died, according to local authorities. It comes as disease-modelling experts warned that far more people may have been affected by the previously unknown virus than thought.

The Wuhan municipal health commission said in a statement that four patients diagnosed with pneumonia on Thursday were in a stable condition, taking the total number of cases to nearly 50. The statement released in the early hours on Saturday is the first confirmation of new cases by the commission in nearly a week.

On Friday, the commission announced the second death from the virus. A 69-year-old man was admitted to hospital with abnormal renal function and severe damage to multiple organs, and died on 15 January, the commission said.

Preliminary lab tests cited by state media showed the pathogen could be from a new type of coronavirus, a large family of viruses that can cause infections ranging from the common cold to deadly severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars).

Case of mystery Sars-like illness found outside China for first time
World Health Organization disease-modelling experts based at Imperial College, London, said that far more people may have been infected and they warned human-to-human transmission could not be ruled out.

Prof Neil Ferguson and colleagues, from the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial, calculated that the number of cases in Wuhan may be more than 1,700. “It is likely that the Wuhan outbreak of a novel coronavirus has caused substantially more cases of moderate or severe respiratory illness than currently reported,” they said in a report.

The report said all hospitalised cases of pneumonia or severe respiratory disease in the Wuhan area and other well-connected Chinese cities should be investigated.

Japan confirms first case of new China coronavirus strain
They cautioned that because of the unknown factors in their estimates, the case numbers could be anywhere from 190 to over 4,000. But in a tweet, they said that “the magnitude of these numbers suggests that substantial human-to-human transmission cannot be ruled out. Heightened surveillance, prompt information sharing and enhanced preparedness are recommended.”

Their calculation is based on the two people in Thailand and one in Japan who were diagnosed with the virus. Based on flight and population data, said Ferguson, “there is only a 1 in 574 chance that a person infected in Wuhan would travel overseas before they sought medical care. This implies there might have been over 1,700 (3 x 574) cases in Wuhan so far.”

US authorities announced they would begin screening passengers arriving from Wuhan on direct or connecting flights at three airports: San Francisco, New York’s JFK and Los Angeles. Authorities in Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea, Indonesia and the Philippines have all stepped up screening.

In Australia, the New South Wales and Victorian governments both issued alerts to health professionals about the virus, but there was no specific screening for the virus or change to travel advice.

Japan and Thailand both reported new cases of the mystery strain of coronavirus virus this week and experts say it might spread further as a result of the Chinese lunar new year holiday starting next week, which sees millions of people travel across the country.

On Thursday Japan confirmed a man in his 30s had been infected with the virus, and a Chinese woman was quarantined in Thailand. The World Health Organization (WHO) has warned a wider outbreak is possible.

On Friday, Thailand confirmed a second case. A 74-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan had been quarantined since her arrival on Monday and was found to be infected with the newly identified coronavirus, said Sukhum Karnchanapimai, permanent secretary of the Public Health Ministry.

Sukhum also urged Thais to remain calm, saying that there was no outbreak in the country.

The Wuhan health commission said late on Thursday that 12 people had recovered and been discharged from hospital but five others were in serious condition. It also said no human-to-human transmission had been confirmed but the possibility “cannot be excluded”.

China pneumonia outbreak may be caused by Sars-type virus: WHO
Another WHO doctor said it would not be surprising if there was “some limited human-to-human transmission, especially among families who have close contact with one another”.

“It is not surprising that we are starting to hear of more cases in other countries and a range of severity from asymptomatic, to mild and severe illness,” said infectious disease expert and director of Wellcome Dr Jeremy Farrar.

“It is possible that the often mild symptoms from this coronavirus may be masking the true numbers of people who have been infected, or the extent of person-to-person transmission. It is probable that we are looking at patients being affected over a number of days from multiple animal sources and with some degree of human-to-human transmission.”

The first confirmed fatality from the virus was a 61-year-old man in Wuhan who died of pneumonia after testing positive.

Memories remain fresh in Asia of a 2002-03 outbreak of Sars, which emerged in China and killed nearly 800 people around the world.

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"On Friday, the commission announced the second death from the virus. A 69-year-old man was admitted to hospital with abnormal renal function and severe damage to multiple organs, and died on 15 January, the commission said"

That bits scary.......

Marberg??

H5N1??
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Jac here.

Lung condition worse, coughing and not able to speak at all.

Talking to 15 people on wechat who also have it. Friends not from chan like this. 50 seems still low.

The organ damage is scary.
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Jac - the moderators can see each poster’s location, and you’re showing up in Clinton, New Jersey. Any reason why?

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Carbon - multi organ failure can also result from sepsis following an infection like pneumonia.

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Hello Jac_wong, welcome.

Interesting you are talking on wechat. Would love to see the link to that and to see what people are saying.

People typically get arrested in China for talking about it or spreading rumors, so if you are using a proxy server that is fine. Or if you have connections in Wuhan that is fine, but continue to share any rumors and info, lol.

Post our link on Wechat. :)

   


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An estimated 1700 infected? Well if that were true, then the next pandemic has most likely begun.   China is the master of cover-ups. And they are not making the WHO look good in all of this.    

JFK airport is also now screening passengers. hmmmm
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They cautioned that because of the unknown factors in their estimates, the case numbers could be anywhere from 190 to over 4,000. But in a tweet, they said that “the magnitude of these numbers suggests that substantial human-to-human transmission cannot be ruled out. Heightened surveillance, prompt information sharing and enhanced preparedness are recommended.”

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That is only the top of the bell-curve of prediction. 6σ in mathematical modeling (or the very much less likely option - but still just possible - in normal speak) could be far higher.

There is a glimmer of good news: so far only very ill people (sick before infection) have died, so this could be less serious than a dose of the flu. It will be a while before the whole picture emerges* however, so we will have to just wait and see.

It's too early to panic, but a close watch is recommended




*A bloody long time if China has its way.

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If Ferguson's estimates are correct, then Canada or U.S. will report a case in next few days.   
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Based on the original pandemic model and original definition, we're at defcon 3.

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Thanks Jacksdad,

Early reports said "lesions in lungs"

This virus leads to Pneumonia H1N1 "black feet"springs to mind....

Quote:

"Many sufferers had typical symptoms: three days of fever, drippy nose, achy bones, followed by a slow recovery. Others it struck like poison: knockout fever, bloody sputum, lungs filled with a reddish fluid. Then the body, deprived of oxygen, turned dark blue, the feet black, and people died."







Watch for cases here aswell,

when people start travelling for Chinese New Year,that might see a big upsurge
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Anyone any ideas how long incubation time ?

How long after infection are you contagious?

How long before you start to show symptoms ?

Surely they know the answers ?
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JFK Among Airports Screening For New Virus from China

Travelers from China will be screening at JFK, as well as LAX and San Francisco International Airport, for a virus that may have jumped from animals to humans in central China. NBC New York’s Ray Villeda reports.


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China reports 17 new cases of mystery virus in Wuhan


Of the 17 new cases in the central city of Wuhan - believed to be the epicentre of the outbreak - three were described as "severe" with two of those patients too critical to be moved, authorities said.


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This thing is going to be a monster if it goes global.

If any cases pop up outside of Asia (and Japan), we'll probably head to defcon 4.
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SCREENINGS

UK - None yet https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/18/no-airport-screening-for-new-sars-like-virus-yet-china

Canada - Three airports https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/01/17/three-canadian-airports-to-screen-air-travellers-from-central-china-amid-outbreak.html

TESTS

18 January 2020 Last Updated at 3:06 pm | Source: IANS
Researchers develop 1st diagnostic test for new Chinese virus

London, Jan 18 (IANS) Researchers have developed the first diagnostic test to detect the novel Chinese coronavirus, which is likely to spread globally.

The assay protocol has now been published by the World Health Organisation (WHO) as a guideline for diagnostic detection. The new method also enables suspected cases to be tested quickly.

The virus, which first emerged in Wuhan, China, and can cause severe pneumonia, can now be detected in the laboratory.

"Now that this diagnostic test is widely available, I expect that it won''t be long before we are able to reliably diagnose suspected cases," said study researcher Christian Drosten, Director of the Institute of Virology on Campus Charité Mitte in Germany.

"This will also help scientists understand whether the virus is capable of spreading from human to human, this is an important step in our fight against this new virus," Drosten added.

Developed by a researchers from German Centre for Infection Research, the world''s first diagnostic test for the coronavirus has now been made publicly available.

Following its online publication by the WHO, the test protocol will now serve as a guideline for laboratories. An international consortium is currently conducting a joint evaluation study.

The Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare on Friday issued an advisory for travellers visiting China in the wake of the Novel Coronavirus outbreak in the neighbouring country.

As on January 11, 41 novel coronavirus confirmed infection case have been reported from China, of which one has died. One travel related case each has been reported in Thailand and Japan.

The clinical signs and symptoms are mainly fever with a few patients having difficulty in breathing. The mode of transmission is unclear as of now. However, so far there is little evidence of significant human-to-human transmission.

--IANS

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China getting busted in cover-up once again? Seems like nobody believes China at this stage.


China coronavirus: Beijing breaks its silence, but only to ‘deny rumours’

•     National disease control centre says new virus ‘is not Sars’, dismisses claims there has been a cover-up in the reporting of cases outside Wuhan

•     But doctor in Shanghai, where a suspected case is believed to have been reported, says his hospital is preparing staff to deal with a possible pneumonia outbreak

China’s central government has broken its silence on the Wuhan
pneumonia outbreak.

with an online post aimed at “defying the rumours” surrounding the spread of the new coronavirus but without providing any new facts or figures.
In an information poster reproduced on social media and its own website on Saturday night, the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention said the new virus was not Sars (severe acute respiratory syndrome),which killed more than 700 people around the world in 2003.

The centre also dismissed suggestions that hospitals outside Wuhan had been secretly treating people infected with the virus, saying that all known cases were being dealt with in the central China city.

Despite its efforts to counter the so-called rumours, the notice left many people on social media with more questions than answers.
“How infectious the virus is, how serious it is and if it can spread from human to human – the poster just keeps people guessing,” said a person on Weibo, China’s Twitter-like platform.
Another suggested that “all the information we see has been filtered … the real situation could be worse”.

“Just for sake of protecting yourself, please wear masks, wash your hands often and avoid crowded places,” the person said.

As of Sunday afternoon, the centre’s post had generated more than 5,300 comments, many of them asking the same question: how can there not have been cases in other Chinese cities if two Chinese visitors to Thailand and a Chinese man working in Japan have been confirmed as being infected?

Later on Sunday China’s National Health Commission said that the outbreak was “preventable and controllable”. However, it added that the source of virus has yet to be found and its path has yet to be fully mapped.

“It still requires close monitoring for any possible mutations,” the commission’s statement said.

The municipal health commission in Wuhan has been the sole source of official information about the new coronavirus, interest in which has been growing both within China and around the world. The commission reported 17 new cases on Friday, taking the total in the city to 62, but no other mainland cities have reported any confirmed or suspected cases.
However, the South China Morning Post reported on Saturday that at least two suspected cases had been recorded in Shenzhen and a third in Shanghai. Authorities in the two cities declined to comment on the suggestions and the central government has made no mention of them.
There was little coverage of the pneumonia outbreak in Shanghai’s media on Sunday, and no obvious signs on the city’s streets that more people than normal were wearing face masks. But a doctor at a leading hospital there said medical staff were being prepared for a possible outbreak. “I heard there was a suspected case in Shanghai today [Sunday] and our hospital is holding a training session on virus prevention and treatment,” he said.
“The hospital is rushing to buy more masks, caps and hand sanitiser for us,” he said on condition of anonymity as he is not authorised to speak to the media.
“To be honest, I feel frightened. It is a virus with a lot of aspects still unclear.”

Despite the lack of reported infections or suspected cases outside Wuhan, a study by the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London estimated that as of January 12, there were likely to have been 1,723. “It is likely that the Wuhan outbreak of a novel coronavirus has caused substantially more cases of moderate or severe respiratory illness than currently reported,” it said. While the study was produced in association with the World Health Organisation it does not represent its official view. The WHO said on Friday that while it was unaware of any cases outside Wuhan, it had not ruled out the possibility that there were some.

“To date there have been no reported cases in China outside Wuhan, but we are still in the early stages of understanding this new virus, where it came from, and how it affects people,” it said. According to health authorities in Wuhan, as of Saturday, 681 of the 763 people known to have been in close contact with the 62 confirmed cases had been tested for the virus – named 2019-nCoV by the WHO – but given the all-clear. The strain has so far claimed two lives, both men, aged 61 and 69, who had pre-existing medical conditions before being admitted to hospital with the virus.

Meanwhile, public health experts in Hong Kong urged the city’s health authorities to step up prevention measures after the reports of new cases in Shenzhen and Hong Kong brought the threat closer to the city.
Doctors said Hong Kong needed to be more proactive in requesting information from mainland Chinese authorities, as well as requiring visitors to the city to fill in health declaration forms.

“As hospitals outside Wuhan now have the ability to test for the new virus, it is only a matter of time before there will be cases in other provinces. There is also the risk a visitor to Hong Kong may have already contracted the virus but not yet fallen ill,” said Professor David Hui Shu-cheong, an expert in respiratory medicine at Chinese University in a public forum organised by the city’s public broadcaster.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3046732/china-coronavirus-beijing-breaks-its-silence-only-deny-rumours




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[In my opinion, this is just more proof (As if we needed it!) that China intends to whitewash everything.]


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January 19, 2020 / 12:07 PM / Updated 2 hours ago

China's national health commission says viral outbreak is 'controllable'

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BEIJING (Reuters) - China’s National Health Commission on Sunday said the outbreak of a new strain of coronavirus is controllable, in the first statement from the body since the outbreak was reported in late December.

The transmission path of the new virus hasn’t been mapped completely and the source of the virus is unknown, it said, adding that it will step up monitoring during Lunar new year, when much of China’s population will travel to celebrate the holiday next week.


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London, Jan 18 (IANS) Researchers have developed the first diagnostic test to detect the novel Chinese coronavirus, which is likely to spread globally.


Likely to spread globally? A novel virus that spreads globally is by definition a pandemic. Wonder what the estimated fatality rate is?
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At the moment, 1700 are estimated to have it and 2 have died. That is not a high fatality rate; 2/1700 is just over 0.1% (0.1176470588235294%).

Of course, more may die yet. We do not know the R0, method of transmission, incubation period - OR EVEN THE FULL SET OF SYMPTOMS. We don't know even if it exhibits H2H transmission, let alone how long it remains contagious for - assuming H2H.

So, ignore my figures, only God knows - and he/she is as silent as the Chinese!

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