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Tabitha111
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Posted: December 05 2020 at 11:12am |
Who else thinks it is ridiculous that the retirement community where I live - where cases are climbing in our State- has just opened the dining room to 33 people seated at one time! |
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Technophobe
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Not me, ridiculous is not a strong enough word. Actually, I don't have a strong enough word. The phrase: "bloody crimminally negligent!" comes to mind, but even that fails to reflect the full horror of this stupidity. |
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Little House
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I think that you have a right to be worried. I don’t remember where you are, but my MIL is in a similar place in Ohio. They ARE locked down. The dinning room is closed. No maid service (there are exception to this for people who cannot do important things, but extra precautions are taken). No activities in common areas. No card playing (I guess this is a big one.) But even with all the rules, there are people who just don’t care, who just won’t follow the rules. It is hard, no matter the situation you find yourself in. I am hoping that in six months, we will find ourselves in a very different situation. Hang in there and stay in your apartment. It won’t be forever. |
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ViQueen24
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You do have a right to be worried, Tabitha. You are being quite sensible, and I know you will continue to be. It is very frustrating when other people do not, as my mother says, seem to have the sense the Good Lord gave 'em. Lately the cases in our county have exploded. I remember this summer when we had 200 cases a day, and back then that was a lot. Today we had 1197 cases. My mum is similarly cautious, and had not been out to the grocery store since March. I just did all our shopping. But late in October it just so happened that we both had a lot to get at the same time, so my mum came with me. And was very surprised and upset by the lack of social distancing, careless mask protocols (as well as some high prices and lack of some products). She gave a tongue-lashing to someone who touched her cart, and I rebuked a lady who moved herself two feet away from me and my cart, and asked me how I was. I told her I was lovely, thank you, but would be a lot lovelier if she would move back, please. She moved back, but not to six feet. I am now only going out to a little one-stop store close to us to get bananas, milk, bread, etc. More exorbitant orders will just have to be delivered. My mother had a product she said she could only find one place, but I found it at Wal-Mart at a similar price, and I told her for the time being, it needs to be delivered. That leaves only her morphine, which does have to be picked up, but her drugstore will bring it out to the car for you. It is just too scary out there, between the upswing in cases, and people who will not keep sensible precautions. Be careful and stay well, everyone! 💛 |
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Technophobe
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I have not left my home since March. I even refused the flu vaccine for the first time ever (I hope it was also the last) as I would need to travel to the next town for it. Having missed two in-person cancer checkups, Hubby (who is in remission) will have to personally attend the next, which is on Wednesday. Believe me, if it were not for the huge risks involved in NOT going to this appointment, we would stay home for this too. Unavoidable risks are one thing, avoidable risks are another entirely. I simply think you are being sensible Tabitha. |
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Tabitha111
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Found out today that they stopped the "snack cart" which came by at 2 pm to each room- reason being- "WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO COME DOWN TO EAT IN THE DINING ROOM" unbelievable! I just don't get it. |
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I'd be taking my own lunch, snacks sitting alone in a park.....which is what I do most days Anyway.....lol Take care all 😷😉 |
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ViQueen24
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Don't know if this is the case where you are, Tabitha, but I used to work at an old age home back in the 80's. They had separate kitchens and staff for the meals that were served to the patients in their rooms, and for the ambulatory patients that ate in the dining room. Every year they would cross-train a few from each place to work in the other place, because the flu would rip through both patients and staff mercilessly. I remember because I was one of those who cross-trained. t It could be they're trying to get everyone to eat in one place because they don't have enough staff to do both? And maybe they didn't have the opportunity to cross-train. |
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Tabitha111
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Not sure about that. I know the orders come down from corporate to the various residential complexes. This is part of Holiday corporation. |
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Nah, the Grinch had muscles, not brains. |
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Tabitha111
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Today they have a Christmas Choir that came in from somewhere else (I believe a church) singing songs in our "atrium".....sounds lovely, I took a peek from 3 floors up....they are all in masks singing....but the spectators (people that live here) are sitting around with their masks off or pulled down. Crazy. I am sure some of the singing breath droplets are not contained completely in masks...esp as loud as they are singing. |
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Little House
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Tabitha, Things are crazy at your place. Do not, for one minute, even think that you are the crazy one. It is easy to start to doubt yourself when everyone else is doing what you want to be doing (but know better). Hang in there, and know that this is not forever. There will be a day when you can go down and enjoy the singing. A day when you can make new friends in the dining room. The day is coming, but it is not here yet. I keep seeing all of these crazy things going on there and know that on some level any normal person would wonder if maybe they were over doing it. You are not. You are not being paranoid, you are being safe. Keep up the good work. |
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Tabitha111
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Thank you! I know I am not crazy. LOL.....there happens to be a woman who resides here who fancies herself a world class singer and she is always in the atrium singing at the top of her lungs (with no mask of course) to all the Christmas Carols. She is very good but...I shudder when I have to go down there to pick up my mail or a package and she is there singing. Avoid Avoid!! |
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WitchMisspelled
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It's official. NYC's infection rate has caused Cuomo to close all indoor dining starting Monday. |
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Tabitha111
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Is there a pandemic going on? I don't think the residents here think so! |
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KiminNM
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You apparently are the only sane one in there. I'm so sorry you're surrounded by imbeciles. HUGS. |
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Technophobe
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I second that! DITTO! |
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carbon20
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Having been on this site for a few years, and disscused many things, I never in my wildest scenarios, dreamed that people would not believe it's happening,when it is...... I"ve had people scoff at the idea of a pandemic when I mentioned it.... I am absolutely gobsmacked that people still denying this is happening even after 300,000 DEAD in the USA alone.........countries going into lock down all over the World..... I'm so proud of my fellow AUSSIES...... Take care all 😷😷😷😷😉 |
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Sorry if off topic,just reading this, seemed relevant..... DW (English): American evangelicals and the resistance to COVID vaccines. https://dw.com/p/3mnD1?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews |
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Tabitha111
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I go downstairs to the main lobby to pick up mail....what do I see....and why doesn't the staff tell these folks??? I see a lady who has just been discharged from the HOSPITAL from surgery then went to a Rehab cener -hip surgery I overhear- well...she was ...talking up a storm to the front desk lady with NO MASK on. |
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ViQueen24
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Grrr. How infuriating! |
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Tabitha, it's the same way every where, that's why our country is in the state it is in. I go to work, which I'm Native American and work for my Tribe and they are VERY strict about the masks. They even provide them. But I go to the grocery store once a week and half the people are not wearing masks, it's not mandatory in our state, only in certain towns. It's ridiculous. |
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roni3470
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The people in my neighborhood in Colorado are having an Elf crawl this weekend. Its about 50 people, going from house to house eating and drinking. No masks, no social distancing. One of my friends said, "well, half of the people going have already had it" We are not going. We are doing our part to stay away. None of us have been sick at our house including the usual bronchitis we get in the winter. I wish everyone had the same common sense! |
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
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Tabitha111
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AND..... We have another Covid + staff member! |
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ViQueen24
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Do you do your own cooking, or do they bring up your meals, Tabitha? |
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carbon20
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Sorry in advance for being pragmatic, Tabitha (love that name,reminds me of one of my favourite TV shows,"Bewitched") In anyway does the place you live in benifit if the residents die......? Sorry to ask ,but the behaviour you discribe is like they want people to get infected..... Take care all 😷😉 |
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Tabitha111
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They prepare all meals and deliver them to your apartment if you choose not to go to the dining room.
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Tabitha111
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I really don't understand this place- tomorrow they are increasing the indoor dining capacity to 33 again. They sent out a paper for all of us, I believe its to make this place "look good" - saying we are lifting some restrictions here....unbelievable when cases are rising and out of control in our city...when we just had a staff member with Covid...when the director wears a gaiter style mask that does no good, and another staff member wears her mask below her chin... |
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ViQueen24
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Maybe you can talk to your Representative and they could do something? |
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KiminNM
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Tabitha - I'd be furious if I were you. I think you've shown an incredible amount of restraint. |
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roni3470
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Our in-door dining just opened last week at a 25% capacity(Colorado). I run into more people at the grocery so its not too concerning at this point but the push is to continue to open. I wouldn't go to a restaurant right now at full capacity, no way! |
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Tabitha111
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The director called me yesterday to ask if I would be a "mentor" to the other residents and help them with certain things computer related- that corporate picked two people in the community to do this to help them with surveys and such...I had to say no- and I told him my reasons- most residents don't wear masks properly or at all and I can not sit next to them at a computer because of that -(never mind that we would not be physically distanced!) I told him I was very covid aware and I would be telling them "pull your mask up" or "go put a mask on" .....he understood. |
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Tabitha111
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It was only a matter of time: we now have a resident with Covid. This particular person gets together after hours (staff goes home at 7 pm) to play cards in the library with a group of other residents. I have seen them when I first moved in and none of them wear masks when playing cards! All of the card players are in quarantine in their rooms. |
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There may be another name in the states for them, but over here they are called: "draught excluders". Sadly, your position has been vindicated, Tabitha. For God's sake, don't let your guard down now. |
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In NL there is a saying "The shore has to stop the ship" (de wal moet het schip keren)...If people do not stop corona, corona will stop people...But it is sad it has to go that way... |
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ViQueen24
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Tabitha, please, contact a Representative or maybe the media in your locality, or both. I know you're afraid of being exposed as the informant, but seriously, things are becoming life and death now. |
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Tabitha111
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One of my neighbors (who feels like I do) is calling the local health department today. Like you said, I don't want to be the informer around here. |
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I don't blame you. It is an unsafe situation either way. Push is coming to shove. I pray that your health department will do what needs to be done. Hang in there. You are taking every possible precaution to protect yourself. You are in my prayers! |
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Tabitha111
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GRRRR....the resident with Covid here was hospitalized, I have heard she is out of the hospital and her daughter is looking for somewhere to "place her". I guess a rehab type place? |
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Not everyone is as well clued-up as you Tabitha (their fault) and not as smart either (you can't fix stupid). |
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ViQueen24
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Grrrr is right, Tabitha. How scary and frustrating! |
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Tabitha111
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I am probably worried for nothing- but I can't help but feel that right after we all get the first shot of the vaccine here- people will feel that we are immune right away and start acting like it. |
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