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The circumstances were - Tradition. it is the tradition - even now - for Aborigines to kill, bash and rape women and children - and it always has been and it continues. They used to kill their own children and sometimes they would eat them - it was and still is their method of population control I have tried to tell you this and show you evidence - but you ignore it because of all your "Noble Savage" Bullshit. The tradition of the Aborigines is violence in the extreem. |
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Hi Cob, I think that we should all be very thankful that we live on a place were you can say what you think and not be arrested for it........ ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIR.......(love this country) Fair being the opreative word..... |
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The Queen has laws in place so you can't talk about her. Her rule is so insidious, her power is so great that you don't even know what you have lost. She rules the commonwealth by stealth. Its very cunning. You all know about the dictatorial Chinese Government. (Similar to Putin). If you ask Chinese people about Tankman and Tiananmen Square massacre. They literally know nothing about it. Its the weirdest thing. I've done it. They are completely ignorant of the topic. We in the West are similarly ignorant of similar things. For example. The British Crown genocide Australia's indigenous people. Bloody hard core genocide not long ago. They literally killed everyone in Tasmania and then covered it up. And still cover it up today. Terra nullius. Still a basis for our constitution. Nuff said |
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When people tell me to f..K off because they are losing an argument I tend to dismiss them....., Even though I agree on this one ...... Here's the link to boags https://g.co/kgs/6ozeT7 Enjoy ViQueen |
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Techno, you bring up a good point. Carbon, gonna go look for some Boag's Premium, I love trying new beers! |
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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”–George Santayana Did you not read this? Did the message not get through to you? The system works - people want to go to the UK to live under that system Here in Australia the staunchest supporters of the Monarchy that we have were the Vietnamese - I love them - they said to me "We had new President every 2 weeks. President no good. We love Queen. Queen much better." Also the Russians that live in Australia have had it with Presidents and Tyrants and love the system in Australia - they know what a shit system is - and they love the Monarchy. Look at the USA - all the Presidents have half the population who hate them and all of them are tainted by scandal - grabbing pussies etc. The Queen is above all that and most of the power is in the Parliament who represent the people. Show me a better system. |
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I agree, adding ,this woman (the queen) was quite literally thrown into a job ,that she wasn't born to do , However she has done her duty to the people , I admire her, wouldn't bend the knee ,might nod my head, Would like Australia to be a republic one day ,but when I see the mess the USA has made of it , maybe the monarchy has a place in the scheme of things ... Would hate us to end in with something like the Orange FACED clown 🤡...... We would have to insist that a future leader has a brain and Is of sound mind........ That would be a change I know ,one can only hope..... Take care all 😷😉 . |
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Ok, I have a third argument to throw into this mix. I am a republican. I would love to ditch the crown. Don't get me wrong. I love the queen. She has uncomplainingly given her whole life to the country. We are very lucky to have her. But our good luck is not hers. She has no choices in life. Every step she takes is ordained. She can't say what she really thinks on any subject. No royal gets free reign in whom they marry. So, she is rich, gets best medicine etc.. But a cage is a cage, however thick the gilding. |
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crap she is rich so she cannot be corrupted by money like a politician she is born to the job so she cannot be corrupted by politics like a politician she has a job to do - to sack useless and corrupt politicians - like Whitlam The system works - people want to go to the UK to live under that system Here in Australia the staunchest supporters of the Monarchy that we have were the Vietnamese - I love them - they said to me "We had new President every 2 weeks. President no good. We love Queen. Queen much better." Also the Russians that live in Australia have had it with Presidents and Tyrants and love the system in Australia - they know what a shit system is - and they love the Monarchy. Look at the USA - all the Presidents have half the population who hate them and all of them are tainted by scandal - grabbing pussies etc. The Queen is above all that and most of the power is in the Parliament who represent the people. Show me a better system. The Queen is a fascist dictator? Where are the Concentration Camps and Gas Chambers? The people are free under a Monarch such as the UK and Australia - but you lack the intelligence to understand. Go live in Zimbabwe. |
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The Queen of England is a fascist dictator. No country in the commonwealth can pass a law which could disrupt the queens business interests. Its written into our constitution and written in such a way that its obscured. The Queen is exempt from Freedom Of Information laws. |
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That song makes me want to puke - Leftists make me want to Puke “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.” ― George Orwell, 1984 |
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A great Aussie tune to go with the beer.....cheers All Take care all....... |
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My favourite is James Boag premium larger,it's a Tasmanian beer.... But there are so many different types, loads of small breweries , brewing boutique beers...... just remember drink it ice cold..... Take care all 😷😉 |
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What kind of beer do Australians drink? What is Australia's favorite beer?
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WHO DOES THAT? I HELP THEM AND HAVE ATTENDED THE POSTMORTEMS THEY GET TREATED LIKE SACRED COWS - THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK AND CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT - EVEN KILL AND RAPE - AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE ITS THEIR "CULTURE" YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FIRST THING |
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I have PTSD because of the things I have had to deal with. I love my country. I know the truth about the Aborigines. It is their "Tradition" and their "Culture" to inflict dreadful violence on each other and others and the crime rate is out of all control. It has to be seen to be believed. It is their "Culture" to rape and murder children in "Initiation Ceremonies" - why is it ok to torture, rape and kill children? Why is that OK for you? It is their "Culture to beat and kill women and children for some accidental seeing of a sacred ceremony. Is that OK for you? Why is it OK to bash and even kill women and children because they walk into a ceremony by accident? I have lost count of the number of times I have seen people wounded and even killed by an axe like in that photo I posted. Have you ever seen it? I have lost count. I have had to handle to corpses of children - babies that have been raped and murdered because of "Tradition". Their violence HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO BECAUSE THE WHITE PEOPLE SETTLED THIS CONTINENT - THEY KILL AND RAPE WOMEN AND CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THEIR LAWS AND TRADITION. I am talking to a brick wall because of people with shit for brains. The Australians do not hurt Aborigines and mistreat thyem - the opposite is true they are pandered to and given the best of everything. Where does Carbon live? Not Darwin and Not Alice Springs - some southern city full of idiots with no idea of anything - who believe bullshit. Carbon you should leave this country |
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Sorry technophobe, don't really liked been told t o f..k OFF by a racist BIGOT, Have learn it's best to stand up to bullies....... I'm more scared of you at 5ft 1,than a strip of yellow 6.3....lol Kilt you need to change jobs.......security work at the day care center I work at gets pretty rough some days......LMAO..... Ok enough enough...... Take care.....don't slip on the vomit........on the way out.....tee hee..... |
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Kilt, How 'bad' anyone was, or even is now, is no excuse to treat them as less than human. Either we are better than that, or we have learned nothing. Carbon, Enough, stop baiting him! |
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How much blood and shit and piss from aborigines have you cleaned up?
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I love Australia and I refuse to let cranks put my country down. Did you even listen to Jacinta speak? She tells the truth - the Aborigines are violent murdering savages - their violence is their culture - it has nothing to do with the British coming here. Quote Jacinta Price: |
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I don't believe lies,I have never said anyone should be ashamed of things done in the past, I do believe that we should recompense for wrong doings that happened in the past but we now realise where wrong. I've said is ,if 26 of January causes so much pain in our native 1st people,then we should change the day. I have said that day should be when the Queen pops off ,and we become a republic. I know bad thing happen in Aboriginal communities,first hand believe it or not ,( how easily you judge when you don't know me ,or what I have done in my life). Threats and violence and bad language ,feel as as sorry for the poor black fella that crosses your unbiased , unbigoted path........ Sad ,sad little man....... Quaking in my boots.....😂😘 |
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“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.” ― Alexander Solzhenitsyn |
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city idiot with NFI WARNING - BLOOD - VICTIM OF AN AXE ATTACK Who the hell do you think you are to judge me? You think its wrong for people to speak thew truth how many axe wounds have you had to deal with? I have lost count - I worked in the Hospitals in the Northern Territory - you have done nothing I speak truth you believe lies - I am 6'3" |
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you believe lies and you can't handle the truth https://www.abc.net.au/radio/adelaide/programs/mornings/jacinta-price/13117154 “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain |
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And Kilt.... You just showed everyone the DOG!!!!! you are....... Woof woof.... Lmao Take care all 😷😉 |
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An aside........ Australians don't drink Foster's......... Lol Take care all 😷😉..... |
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Kilt, Do not use the f word on here. Last warning. |
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I second that emotion, ye gods! I think I need a crate or two of Foster's after reading that! |
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Mods.... should this thread take a Walkabout to the Political section.... as I don't see it being settled over a crate of two of Fosters? |
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HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA LAUGHING MY F.......NG ARRSE OFF AND NO ..... I won't f..K off
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Traditional culture and laws - have a listen |
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INVASION DAY - is TOTAL BULLSHIT Its Australia Day If you do not love Australia go live in ZIMBABWE - or rack off to some other shit hole |
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I know what I have seen with my own eyes - you have not seen it. It was my profession to take care of these people. To you the history is irrelevant - but they keep doing it now. You say the reason is the British or Advance Australia Fair and I should be ashamed of it. It is their shame not mine. It is the personal responsibility of the person who harms another and not Captain Cook. I have lost count of the number of people wounded by an axe I have had to attend and care for. Just like this guy https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1356871611757002753 |
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And why is it like that,?? I don't love people being hurt or killed.... You don't ,can't seem to understand ,or do you have any compassion..... Feel sorry for you..... Take care all 😷😉 |
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BULLSHIT - it was 100% Kerr because Whitlam was useless - and he lost the election the worst Landslide against Labor in 100 years - the people spoke. All Kerr did was sack a useless government - and its his job to do that - then install a Caretaker Government and have a Double Dissolution Election - and it went to the people to decide and they threw Whitlam and Labor out in a Landslide because they are utterly USELESS BASTARDS. Kerr let the people decide and the people decided Whitlam was USELESS |
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Its not the past - nothing has changed for them. The murder rate in the NT is 500% higher than the National average and Katherine and Tennant Creek the homicide rate is worse than the USA. I worked in the Health Care system - Hospitals. I have lost count of the axe wounds and spear wounds and murdered women and children - that is happening NOW. The Aborigines still murder children - NOW TODAY and they rape them in the Initiation Ceremonies NOW TODAY. I am living in reality in the NT and you live in a fantasy land in Disneyland. I have not seen cannibalism but I have handled the corpses and attended the postmortems of murdered women and children. Go work in the Tennant Creek Hospital and see the carnage NOW TODAY You do not know the first thing about reality. Do you want me to post evidence? I am appalled by the things I have seen them do - you love it. That makes you very strange. |
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How many Aboriginal people in the last 150 years have cannibalized anyone..... You Kilt are holding a race responsible for sins of their fathers...... "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" You would do well to take that on board..... |
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And what's your point....... This was their culture, practiced by them for 60 thousand years, What was your family doing 60 thousand years ago...? As you said they were primitive people...... If the land was Terra nullius,meaning "empty land" What were these people doing on there...... By your way of backward thinking ,you would be ok , murdering any native peoples that ate their enemy's......which was common practice in many tribal people....... Look. At PNG.....still doing it today....... You really should read more........ And you are really showing your true colours with people like you around no wonder we are stuck in the past.... Try moving forward and don't be so bitter....... Take care all 😷😉 |
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Sacked by Kerr, yeah yeah na. Kerr was a puppet. It was orchestrated by the Queen without doubt. She had full knowledge but denied it. She lied to everyone. She was busted recently when the truth came out. Her letters were released after a high court challenge in Australia. Gough was a threat to the Queens power. He broke away from British Anglo Banking Alliance and sort finance via India. look up the Khemlani affair. The queen wanted him gone. The Queen is truly a tyrant. She controls our entire monetary system. We are forced to go through her banks for finance. Her face is on all our currency. Roughly 70% of Australia's debt is through unreported non residents. Secret game this banking stuff. If you ever want to understand how the Queen controls Australia look up "the Lang Plan" Remember, no one messes with the Banks |
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It was Terra Nullius - nobody's land - except for murdering savages that ate their own children. Geoff Whitlam - who I once met was an incompetant buffoon who was sacked because hew was an incompetant buffoon and never seen again - sacked by Kerr not the Queen |
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They used to kill and eat their own children Wow is that OK by you? The sun had sunk very low in the western sky before the waiting warriors could be reasonably certain that all members of the Irbmangkara camp had returned. Keeping under the cover of bushes and trees, the armed men crept forward with the relentless and uncanny skill of hunters used to stalking suspicious game animals. As soon as the clearing around the camp had been reached, they rushed in, like swift dingoes upon a flock of unsuspecting emus. Spears and boomerangs flew with deadly aim. Within a matter of minutes Ltjabakuka and his men were lying lifeless in their blood at their brush shelters. Then the warriors turned their murderous attention to the women and older children, and either speared or clubbed them to death. Finally, according to the grim custom of warriors and avengers, they broke the limbs of the infants, leaving them to die "natural deaths". The final number of the dead could well have reached the high figure of from eighty to a hundred men, women, and children. Before leaving the stricken camp, the bodies of all clubbed victims were prodded with spears to make certain that there was no life left in them. For the warriors had to be sure beyond all doubt that no eyewitnesses had survived who could later on incite reprisals against them. The next step taken by the survivors was the selection and the ceremonial dedication and fitting out of a revenge party, who would be commissioned to go out as leltja and kill all of the men responsible for the massacre, down to the last guilty participant. Messengers went out as far as Njenkuguna in Central Aranda territory, Ulamba and Jamba in Northern Aranda territory, and the Ellery Creek and Upper Finke valley portions of Western Aranda territory; and everywhere mourning rites took place for the dead during which moral support was enlisted for the punishment of the Irbmangkara raiders. Finally a small party of avengers, chosen for their special prowess with weapons and their special skills in bushcraft, was assembled near Manta on the Finke River, some miles upstream from Irbmangkara. Here the men were put through the special ritual which was believed to endow avengers with the ability to creep upon their unsuspecting victims in safety and to evade without difficulty the spears of their enemies. For, unlike a band of tnengka warriors capable of destroying a whole camp in broad daylight, the leltja were avengers who had to move stealthily through hostile territory in order to kill isolated individuals who had left the security of their main group camps. After passing through their special ritual, the members of this leltja party made their way down the Finke valley. Their leader was Nameia, who had by now fully recovered from his wounds. The party included at least two of Ltjabakuka's sons, also several of his close relatives. But the numbers of the avengers had to be kept to the lowest possible limits commensurate with safety. Possibly no more than ten men went out on this revenge expedition. They knew that it would take them at least a couple of years to achieve their retaliatory errand. For they were moving into the well-populated country of enemies who were expecting a reprisal visit, and who were therefore on their guard. They would have to pick their victims off, perhaps one man, and certainly no more than three men, at a time, preferably when they were out hunting; and after each kill the avengers would have to lie low for weeks till their victims' relatives had given up looking for them. They would have to live off the land in hostile territory, and often move about singly so that any persons sighted from a distance accidentally could not raise an alarm about a travelling band of warriors. But with their own lives continually at stake, these leltja avengers killed - and waited between kills - with the determination and the patience of highly intelligent beasts of prey. Sometimes the killing of a man might involve also the killing of his wife and children in order to wipe out all danger of eyewitness evidence. But slowly they achieved their purpose. One of the few Irbmangkara raiders who escaped retribution was Kangkia. He was cornered, but succeeded in convincing the avengers that he had been compelled by force to accompany the tnengka band, and that he had hung back during the at tack so as not to kill anyone personally. After they had picked off the guilty Aranda warriors, Nameia's band of avengers moved from the Horseshoe Bend area across the South Australian border as far south as the Hamilton River; for some of the Matuntara men had gone down into this distant region. After that the avengers made their way back in a northwesterly direction into the Palmer valley. In the end even the dreaded and watchful Tjinawariti and the respected Kapaluru succumbed to their spears. After these final successes the avenging party hastened to return to the security of the Krichauff Ranges, probably at some point south of Alitera; and then they made their proud return journey up the Finke River into Western Aranda territory. Here they found that the world which they had left behind over three years earlier had changed completely. It was 1878 by now; and white men had invaded their land during their long and dangerous absence. The first structures built by white men greeted their eyes on the banks of the Finke at Hermannsburg. Their friends and relatives in the native camp were overjoyed to see their courageous kinsmen returning. Their spare and gaunt forms proved how tough life had been for them during the past three years, and how often they had had to endure hungry days and nights because there had been too many enemy hunters waiting for them in the best game country. But they had achieved their object, and there had not been a single casualty among them. They were given a heroes' welcome, and no one ever forgot the amazing achievement of these warriors - an achievement that would bear comparison with that of any modern guerilla fighters in any other part of the world. By 1878 stations were being established and cattle were being moved into the valleys of the Finke and the Palmer; and the new era of violence brought on by white settlement ended any chances of counter-reprisals being made, except perhaps against some individual members of the leltja party. In any case men and women in all groups affected by the Irbmangkara massacre had become sickened by several years of murder and killing, and longed to return to an era of peace and quiet amity. Only the Matuntara remained unhappy, for in Tjinawariti and Kapaluru they had lost two of their outstanding leader figures and ceremonial chiefs. In return for their deaths it was decided by their kinsmen that at least one Irbmangkara man should lose his life. The man marked out for the final killing that would close the whole grim episode was, naturally, Nameia. Not only had he been a Matuntara himself, but he had also been the only man capable of identifying all the members of the original band of raiding warriors. He had been the leader of the avengers, and it had been his intimate knowledge of the Matuntara area that had made possible the stalking and the killing of Tjinawariti and of Kapaluru. But having come to the decision of executing Nameia, the Matuntara were willing to wait several years before taking any action: this time no risks were to be incurred that the executioners themselves would once more be detected by unforeseen eyewitnesses. http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/p/2005/strehlow-research/journeyhorseshoebend.pdf |
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Agree...... Apart from the queen being a tyrant.....lol Take care all 😷😉 |
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Bloddy hell, is this post still going... Interesting arguments. Those who say that the Abbo's should lose their land rights due to the barbarianism. Really! That's a strawman and myopic at best. Step back for a second and look at our own culture. We still kill babies while in the womb. We mutilate boys genitals. We kill our neighbor's with bombs and guns. I could go on for hours. We be crazy AF... I've studied the Aboriginal history. Its amazing. They had the most extensive trading system. Their lands were very well defined and marked through out Australia. They were a nation of laws. Maybe not the same laws as ours, but they existed. And for 40,000 years. The British claim that Australia was "Terra Nullius" is plainly wrong. The Queen and British Anglo alliance still has an unfair advantage in the Australian market to this day. They literally have written into law that loans made by the Australian Government have to go through a panel. This panel just so happens to be managed by the Queen. And if you want to know what happens when you go outside this arrangement.. Just ask Gough Whitlam The Queen is a tyrant. |
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