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 Topic: NL in crisisPosted: February 28 2024 at 3:02am |
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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BsDLD_Zk04[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BsDLD_Zk04 Al Jazeera-English; Dutch Diplomat Angelique Eijpe resigns in protest of Dutch government's Gaza policySome civil servants in the US and Europe are taking a stand against their governments' support for Israel's war in Gaza. Several have resigned because they no longer feel able to implement government policies they disagreed with. One Dutch diplomat tells Al Jazeera why she made the decision. DJ...I did see this video "by accident" on YouTube...I did know there were civil servants protesting against the west being a partner in genocide...However high ranking NL diplomats resigning should deserve more attention... The resignation is part of the story...NL/western media ignoring it...is the other part of the scandal... Again...Dutch politics -from left to right- simply ignoring NATO supporting genocide (as long as rutte can get his NATO job ?) is "shocking"... |
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Posted: February 27 2024 at 12:35am |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/childcare-benefit-report-slams-failings-which-ruined-lives/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/childcare-benefit-report-slams-failings-which-ruined-lives/ ; Government failings have crushed people’s lives and the same thing could happen again unless officials fundamentally change the way they look at people’s constitutional rights, according to the formal report on the childcare benefit scandal DJ....maybe this -in short- can be seen as a summary of how "western politics" has failed-is failing and keeps failing...Here in NL the health minister did see his job as minister as "a position in between (real) jobs"..."Our" PM...mark rutte is doing all he can to become the next secretary general of NATO....
“The powers that be were blind to the consequences of policies and decision-making,” the commission, chaired by Socialist party MP Michiel van Nispen said in the 500-page report. “They were blind to people, blind to justice and blind to people’s rights. A government that does not see people loses trust.” Tens of thousands of Dutch parents were incorrectly accused of fraud and unjustly ordered to pay back thousands of euros in childcare benefit by the Dutch tax office. Between 2004 and 2019, parents had their childcare benefits stopped and were ordered to repay every penny ever received, sometimes due to the smallest mistakes. Over 1,600 children whose parents were caught up in the scandal were removed from their homes by social workers. Marriages broke up and people lost their homes. The tax office also admitted that 11,000 people were subjected to extra scrutiny because they had dual nationality. Many were labeled fraudsters, and their details shared across government departments, with devastating consequences for their financial, personal and children’s well-being. The scandal led to the collapse of the government in 2021 but has still not been properly resolved, and thousands of people are still waiting for compensation. Failed “The cabinet and parliament failed, government services acted illegally and the legal system fell short,” the report said. “People’s constitutional rights were infringed and the rule of law was ignored in a hardened political and social climate. And because of this, people’s lives were ruined.” Nationality was registered as a “risk factor” in multiple government services, in contravention of equal opportunity rules, the report said. “The government presented itself as the opponent of the ordinary citizen,” Van Nispen said at the presentation in front of an audience of campaigners and families. “And the shocking thing is, this is no longer considered shocking.” The patterns which led to the scandal are still there and the next scandal can happen at any moment, the commission said. The recommendations are not new, but nothing so far has been done. “That makes the lack of action even more serious,” the commission said. Some of the mistakes, it said, date back 20 years. MPs also failed because they voted in favour of bad laws and did not try to rectify problems. DJ..on the "media"; Journalists and MPs brought out the worst in each other by encouraging tougher policy. Giant headlines in the newspapers spoke of fraud and there was a “disproportionate response” to problems with the social security system, particularly when people with ethnic minority roots are concerned. The report also looked at the so-called “Bulgarian fraud” of 2013, in which it was claimed Bulgarian criminal gangs arranged for people to travel to the Netherlands and register as residents so they could claim healthcare and housing benefits. Media hype The press, the report said, parroted each other and created a hype, when the reality was far more nuanced. The furore around the Bulgarian fraud was seen as one of the reasons the tax office and other institutions started to take a more aggressive stance towards perceived benefit fraud by non-Dutch citizens. The commission said the budget of the privacy watchdog AP should be boosted to €100 million to help it perform its job. The conditions for legal aid should be widened and the human touch should be brought back to points of contact between government officials and the ordinary citizen. MPs should also be given more support to do their job in making laws and controlling the way they are applied. The report also slammed the Council of State, the highest administrative court in the Netherlands, which it said continued to approve the “all or nothing approach”, even when the disastrous consequences had become known. The court apologised to parents in 2021. DJ..the "rule of law" failed because of bad laws not being corrected...even civil servants did see the law was bad-but were silenced...lost their job... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/uns-top-court-declines-to-rule-on-mh17/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/uns-top-court-declines-to-rule-on-mh17/ ; The International Court of Justice on Wednesday rejected a request from Ukraine to hold Russia culpable for the downing of Flight MH17, finding the terrorism convention under which Kyiv brought the case only covers monetary support. Ukraine filed a complaint with the Hague-based court in 2017, accusing Moscow of violating international law by supporting separatists and annexing the Crimean Peninsula. However, judges at the United Nations’ highest court faulted Russia for only minor violations of the two international treaties at stake: the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism, or ICSFT, and the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, CERD. DJ, my view; Ukraine did shoot down the MH17 flight...however it did NOT fit in the NATO story...(or was it even a NATO plan ???) So Russia was blamed for it...One of the reasons why NL did spend billions on "supporting Ukraine"....NL did send parts for F35's to "israel" until court stopped that... I am anti-war...but no major party in NL politics shows tself able to even ask critical questions on NATO wars any longer... |
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Posted: February 05 2024 at 9:25pm |
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[url]https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8093639/boze-boeren-stichten-brand-op-snelwegen#[/url] or https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8093639/boze-boeren-stichten-brand-op-snelwegen# ; Angry farmers set fires on highwaysSeveral groups of angry farmers set fire to a number of highways in Gelderland on Monday evening. On the A50, near Apeldoorn, a large fire raged in the central reservation and on the road surface. Footage shows how trailers full of wood, tyres and other rubbish have been emptied on the verge of the A50 and set on fire. Fireworks have also been set off. Some burning parts lay on the road, where trucks and passenger cars rushed past. According to a correspondent, there were about 150 tractors on and along the A50. Multiple protest firesThe A50 is not the only place where there was a fire along or on the motorway. Farmers also lit a large protest fire on the A28 at the 't Harde exit and a motorway fire raged further on near Nijkerk. Fires were set in several places on the A15 and protesting farmers stood along two slip roads of the A12 near De Klomp. DJ, "politics" protecting airlines, car/fossil fuel lobby and try to make farmers pay.... I think the policy is unbalanced...NL is the 5th largest food-exporter in the world...and that is "a lot".... From a public health point of view we should decrease the number of farm animals...maybe by over 50%...BUT you have to talk with the farmers !!!! We are moving towards a global food-shortage so we NEED !!!! farmers !!!!!! They have knowledge on water management, clever ways to produce food... We need to DECREASE the air-transport sector...politics however is increasing air travel, we have a record number of cars (9,5 million !!! on a population just under 18 million) on the road while public transport is in a (man made) crisis...Almost daily a person riding an (e)-bike is getting killed in traffic... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/coalition-talks-continue-as-february-report-back-deadline-nears/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/coalition-talks-continue-as-february-report-back-deadline-nears/ ; The formation process has been ongoing for over two months with little obvious progress and parliament is supposed to debate the situation before the February 16 spring recess. DJ, the anti-islam neo-fascist "pvv" may get 50-out of the 150- seats in the "second chamber"-parliament..according to a latest poll... Trust in politics is gone... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/in-the-netherlands-you-can-just-be-yourself-do-what-you-want/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/in-the-netherlands-you-can-just-be-yourself-do-what-you-want/ ...however in NL so far "political disagreements" only result in limited "political tensions"...Most cities are "left wing"...the sub-urban (often richer) areas are more right wing...There may still be some links between education and political views but higher education no longer translates in being more left wing...(maybe in the older age groups one may see such a link).... There is "limited" discussion on conscription/increasing the military...shortage on the job-"market" does not leave much room...Unemployment is increasing but still "low"...long CoViD however IS a problem...(ignored...). Inflation last month was 3,2% (year-to-year)....in general salaries increased but do not fully cover the inflation of the last two years... Switching from fossil fuel to renewable-electricity means a lot of building projects are further delayed...with also water and traffic-problems getting worse... However...NL is still "rich"...for most people here a good place to be... |
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[url]https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8063784/slachtoffers-toeslagenaffaire-bij-elkaar-werken-aan-vertrouwen[/url] or https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8063784/slachtoffers-toeslagenaffaire-bij-elkaar-werken-aan-vertrouwen ; Victims of the childcare benefits scandal together: 'Working on trust'ARNHEM - The childcare benefits scandal has countless faces. The face of 17-year-old Gijs-Paul van Groenestein from Arnhem is just one of them. A face that saw how his parents were weighed down by the affair, there was no longer expensive meat on the table and his shoes no longer came from Nike, but from Scapino. In the end, Gijs-Paul was removed from his home and lost all confidence. And trust was the goal of a special day in Arnhem on Saturday. "Daycare, fraud, no money, that's it", is how Gijs-Paul describes the childcare benefits scandal in an ultra-succinct way. "We had to pay back and all of a sudden there was no money left. We could no longer take out subscriptions and no longer order anything from the Wehkamp. I used to be in sports and we ate meat, but then I didn't." So the impact was big for the family. To make matters worse, Gijs-Paul's mother became ill and his father became incapacitated for work. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, Gijs-Paul was placed out of the house. "Certain things" from that time still haunt the teenager a few years later. So it's no wonder that Gijs-Paul's trust in society dropped to freezing point. Restoring that trust, that's what it was all about on Saturday during a day for children who became victims of the childcare benefits scandal. Arnhem alone has 799 recognised victims. These families have a total of 1053 children. "We want to find young people like Gijs-Paul, because sometimes they disappear from the radar," says youth worker Nabil Elberkani of the Local Expertise Team. "The goal is to build a relationship of trust and, above all, to help them move forward." DJ, the neo-liberal vvd -rutte- government ruined many households in NL. Not only via tax-benefits, also treating people in social security (including those with chronc disease, Long CoViD) as criminals...Gas exploration was more important in the north of NL than people living there... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/the-dutch-can-send-f35-parts-to-israel-says-hague-court/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/the-dutch-can-send-f35-parts-to-israel-says-hague-court/ ...NL sending another 500 million in "aid" to a corrupt regime in Ukraine to keep wars going on...(PM rutte wants to become next NATO secretary general...to promote war...). [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henk_Kamp[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henk_Kamp was a.o. responsible for government benefits-crime...only to become a member-of-honor in the vvd neo liberal "club"... DJ-Most people in NL are totally fed up with present "politics"...a very major problem-and in lots of countries-"politics tend to become a uni-party"...it does not matter wich party you vote...you end up with criminal politics anyway... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/16/state-commission-discrimination-occurs-everywhere-netherlands[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/16/state-commission-discrimination-occurs-everywhere-netherlands ; Discrimination is everywhere in the Netherlands, and not only isolated incidents but structural forms of discrimination which transcend stages of life, generations, and sectors. It results in people dealing with discrimination in school and also later in their job, concluded the State Commission against Discrimination and Racism based on existing reports and conversations that researchers had with experienced specialists and other stakeholders in different sectors. DJ, more findings (after a.o. the UN, Amnesty International) to ignore by a political elite getting more and more isolated... |
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I can not get to "post options"...no doubt Russian, China, North Korea and/or Iran cyber attack ???? I wanted to post a link on NL politics, pvv would even get more seats in a latest polll [url]https://home.noties.nl/peil/[/url] or https://home.noties.nl/peil/ 37 seats in last elections-42 in early december poll...The pvv is very pro-Israel (may have been started by Israel ? [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/17bgjej/leaked_documents_show_connections_between_pvv_and/?rdt=61184[/url] or https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/17bgjej/leaked_documents_show_connections_between_pvv_and/?rdt=61184 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Fitna[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Fitna DJ-I expect new elections in 2024...the pvv may find out no one trust them... |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/omtzigt-puts-policy-before-partnerships-in-coalition-talks/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/omtzigt-puts-policy-before-partnerships-in-coalition-talks/ ; Pieter Omtzigt, the former Christian Democrat MP whose new party Nieuw Sociaal Contract won 20 seats in last week’s election, has said he is not yet ready to start talks on forming a new cabinet. Omtzigt’s support is crucial in forming a right-wing coalition with the far-right PVV, together with the pro-countryside BBB and possibly the VVD. However, he told Ronald Plasterk, who has been charged with carrying out initial coalition talks, that he was not ready to discuss forming either a majority or a minority cabinet. Instead, he said, Plasterk should focus on what the policies of the parties are to deal with the “big problems facing the Netherlands”, which range he said “from bad governance to financial security and from migration to housing.” Omtzigt also said that he still has issues with an alliance with the PVV and the party must first make it clear what leader Geert Wilders meant when he said some parts of the manifesto could be “put on ice”. Wilders told Nieuwsuur during the campaign he was prepared to put the policies that have defined his party for 25 years into cold storage, such as a ban on the Qur’an, a referendum on Nexit and closing Islamic schools. Omtzigt has said repeatedly that he cannot support parts of Wilders’ policy which he considers to be undemocratic, and this remains a problem, he reiterated on Wednesday. DJ, in the news also a story "Muslims would have voted for wilders"; statistics on neighbourhoods with a larger Muslim population do not indicate that. However third generation immigrant background-in fact in many ways "Dutch"-may have supported the pvv more than their parents...Also Suriname, NL Antilles background may have supported pvv at the same level of the NL population. -Omtzigt/NSC is trying to focus on solving problems...He may try to get a cabinet with some distance from present political parties. His idea of trying to get different majorities for different solutions/problems may not be very realistic. He could try to get e "center-left" majority on housing, a "center right" majority on energy... -The neo-liberal vvd is split. Part of the problem is pvv has 20 new MP's -almost non of them have any experience in politics... [url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/politiek/van-de-4-grote-partijen-is-er-maar-1-leider-met-zijn-hoofd-bij-de-formatie-de-rest-voert-campagne~a720bbc67/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/politiek/van-de-4-grote-partijen-is-er-maar-1-leider-met-zijn-hoofd-bij-de-formatie-de-rest-voert-campagne~a720bbc67/ ...Most political parties are still/again in election campain modus... The Duran [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhTGics-lNU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhTGics-lNU ; UK economic stagnation. Netherlands election creates tension in Britain- Food inflation in the Netherlands remains high, with prices for groceries some 7.3% up on November 2022, national statistics agency CBS said in a flash forecast on Thursday. Nevertheless, food inflation is slowing, the figures show. In October food prices were 8.7% higher, and in September 10%. Taking energy prices into account, inflation is 1.6%, the CBS said. This is up on October, when the consumer price index showed prices fell by -0.4% in the last year. Price movements for energy have a major impact on the inflation figures, and excluding energy prices would put the November inflation rate at 4.1%. The CBS will publish updated figures on December 12.  00:02 The UK economy is impacted by the recent election in the Netherlands. 02:18 UK economy stagnant, high taxes, falling living standards 04:49 UK economic stagnation and tension in Britain due to Netherlands election. 07:18 The possibility of a Wilder-type party emerging in Britain could lead to a significant electoral shock and change the political landscape. 09:48 The traditional left in Europe has declined, while right-wing personalities are gaining influence. 12:15 UK economic stagnation and the impact of the Netherlands election in Britain 14:46 UK unlikely to have a friendly relationship with Russia in the near future. 16:56 Establishing a friendly relationship with Russia is possible but not with the current political establishment. Crafted by Merlin AI. DJ, The NL crisis reflects a crisis in most western countries. The "old" idea of "left" and "right" wing politics does not fit...Maybe "globalists" and "anti-globalists"? [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/food-inflation-slows-but-remains-high-at-7-3-in-november/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/food-inflation-slows-but-remains-high-at-7-3-in-november/ ; DJ |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/raised-eyebrows-at-geert-wilders-kijkduin-refugee-visit/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/raised-eyebrows-at-geert-wilders-kijkduin-refugee-visit/ ; The leaders of two parties that could form a right-wing coalition with the far right PVV have both expressed their surprise at party leader Geert Wilder’s backing for an anti-refugee protest on Tuesday evening. Wilders paid a lightning visit to the protest at the seaside resort of Kijkduin, where up to 120 asylum seekers are being housed in a hotel. The asylum seekers were placed there at the weekend because of the shortage of beds at the Ter Apel reception centre. Wilders, who did not go into the information evening organised by The Hague city council because of “security concerns”, told reporters outside he was there to “give a boost” to the protestors. He said he often attended similar gatherings in towns and villages that are being “flooded” by asylum seekers who live in “rooms with big televisions, swimming pools, free food and drink and heating, which many Dutch people don’t have.” DJ, wilders does NOT want pvv in any government...claim he is kept out...hoping it will bring more votes...I think he has NO room for this kind of stupidity...In regional elections [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Dutch_provincial_elections[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Dutch_provincial_elections march 15 2023 the "farmersparty" did get 19,19% of the votes, pvv only 5,76%... Most parties will welcome new parliament elections in 2024 expecting pvv will see lots of it support vanish... |
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In Germany-Berlin another LEFT wing demonstration against NATO and war...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscjKng4FIo&t=228s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscjKng4FIo&t=228s Sahra Wagenknecht managing to get wide support for MORE money to public health. housing, transport, education etc...LESS money to a "war industry gone out of control"... DJ Also in NL "old" left is very critical over NATO, EU...somehow "new left" (like tony blair new labour) is not "left"....The pvv did use the room "left" parties ignored... So with the neo-liberal "vvd" claiming not willing to join wilders/pvv DJ-another option could open; -pvv/wilders knows he has to make a lot of compromises -Lots of "social matters" in the pvv-"plan" are "old left wing"... -Maybe "backdoor"talks with NSC and PvdA/GL on finding some common interests ? ----- The pvv has to give up being anti-Islam...however "limiting ALL religion" tax rules etc may be "open"??? wilders may have decided to stay in parliament...another (very likely NOT pvv) person as PM "new left" supported NATO moving east, causing the Ukraine war, pvv is very pro-Israel...both could try to become anti war (industry)... For New Social Contract/Omtzigt it would be a "victory" if they could get a pvv-nsc-PvdA/GL cabinet...The main goal of NSC is reform of the NL political system... ------------- The Gaza-genocide is bringing lots of protests in NL...A "political elite" is supporting still sending spare parts for F35's to Israel (a.o.)...The Ukraine war/sanctions against Russia did cause high inflation in NL... Altough "media" still go for Ukraine (and Israeli) propaganda "alternative media" make clear NATO is part of the problem... If you want less refugees here-stop wars there ! People in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine are killed for western goals... -We may have to wait and see how Wagenknecht in Germany may change politics... [url]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-last-generation-activists-blockade-berlin-streets/a-67552555[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/germany-last-generation-activists-blockade-berlin-streets/a-67552555 Climate protests in most countries underline lack of trust in ALL politics...In Germany the "green party" betrayed their voters by becoming a bunch of crazy war mongers... [url]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-grapples-with-its-debt-brake/a-67551491[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/germany-grapples-with-its-debt-brake/a-67551491 The German "government" wanted to use reserves for dealing with economic damage from the pandemic for "green goals"...Those reserves were NOT meant to be used that way German court decided... So the present German "government-gang" may have NO money for most "green idea's" (cheaper/better public transport was one of them-very welcome !) but ends up with spending tens-of-billions on weapons (for Ukraine)... Since Germany is a federal state there soon may be elections in a member state...If Wagenknecht manages to get a lot of votes from both AfD and "old left wing" (betrayed by present new left) it may wake up "the left" in NL. It could also warn wilders/pvv to use the chance now or lose that chance for ever... If pvv would show itself as anti-war, pro-public services "old left wing" may be able to get NL "left" in the more progressive direction... |
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[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hackett_(British_Army_officer)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hackett_(British_Army_officer) Once described Dutch military conscripts as "long haired, undisciplined" -however he was very impressed by the same Dutch conscripts able to read maps, speak languages and show initiative.... Most of the world is NOT "Dutch"..."Dutch" and "Deutsch" often get mixed up...The "Dutch" do have a history of trade...Germany has a much more agriculture background... NL stayed out of World War 1 with Dutch Fokker becoming the main German aircraft supplier...DJ-One of hitlers biggest mistakes was invading NL. As a "neutral" country NL very likely would have been a major trading place for nazi-germany...(so NL identity is NOT always good !)....Over 40,000 Dutch joined the nazi-army...Did fight in the Soviet Union "against Bolsjewism"... A lot of fascists have a catholic background-however MOST catholics are NOT fascists...The pvv-wilders did get a lot of support from the south of NL...once a catholic part of NL. -[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/a-chilly-weekend-ahead-with-sleet-and-night-frosts-next-week/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/a-chilly-weekend-ahead-with-sleet-and-night-frosts-next-week/ ; The Netherlands will be hit by showers, strong winds, and chilly temperatures from Friday and there could even be sleet or snow next week, according to the Weeronline weather bureau. DJ, Cold weather will increase worries over (extreme) high energy costs...and we could see a lot of cold weather...The "easy game" is blame solar/wind energy for rising costs...Ignoring the NATO war against Russia cutting Europe of of cheap Russian energy...The pvv/wilders very likely will play both cards.... [url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/coronavirus-wint-razendsnel-terrein-29-procent-meer-virusdeeltjes-in-week-tijd~ac0e1ca0/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/coronavirus-wint-razendsnel-terrein-29-procent-meer-virusdeeltjes-in-week-tijd~ac0e1ca0/ ; Wastewater testing, small test groups show a strong increase of CoViD cases in NL. Hospital cases still not increasing yet... DJ...so energy costs pushing up even further inflation, CoViD-other diseases on the rise....frustration on present politics only will grow... And both present politics and pvv/wilders have NO real answers... High energy costs, shortage of staff a.o. also blocking new houses being build. There is a shortage of almost 1 million houses...and no easy answers... pvv and other right wing parties claim "nuclear energy is also green"...putting billions into building a few nuclear powerplants in some more remote area will take years...Than you may find out uranium may be the next problem... Environmental problems are linked to fossil fuel usage...so you have to limit airlines, cars...They both have strong lobby support so "politics" went for strict rules on farmers...It is welcome to reduce farming in NL...but it may NOT be the major problem...Fossil fuel companies/banks "support/pay" politics...The farmersparty bbb now is paid by animal-food producers and Bayer-Monsanto...And bbb no longer is a "hype"... We could end up with parliament elections -again- in 2024 and than see what other "hype" may win a lot of votes...It is NOT getting us out of the swamp-might be dragging us into it even harder...Political "realism" has become "not done".... In some ways NL could be an indicator for some other European country-crises.... |
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Posted: November 24 2023 at 9:15pm |
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Dj The Duran story (post above) is putting the (outcome of) NL elections in a European perspective. Puts former German PM Merkel in a position of "stabilizing" Europe. Since she left that job the EU did de-stabilize...so NL-PM rutte may have decided to no longer run NL neo-liberals... In Germany [url]https://nie-wieder-krieg.org/[/url] or https://nie-wieder-krieg.org/ Sahra Wagenknecht -former "the Left"- stepped into the gap left behind by "left wing party elites betraying their voters"...German "green party", "social democratic party" now both promoting and supporting war... 21 wars and 216 armed military conflicts currently threaten the world (Heidelberg Institute for International Conflict Research HIIK). The danger of the war in Ukraine escalating to nuclear war is growing day by day. Innocent people die every day. We are worried about our future, the future of our children and grandchildren. We need a culture of peace and shared security. Instead of relying on de-escalation and diplomacy, the federal government is supplying more and more weapons and is massively arming itself. Large parts of politics and the media are militarizing society. For the first time, Germany will reach the two percent target (according to NATO criteria). At 85.5 billion euros, military spending in 2024 will be the largest since the Federal Republic was founded. The healthcare system, infrastructure, support for children and affordable rents, education, science and training, on the other hand, are threatened by dramatic funding cuts. A social and economic catastrophe is looming for more and more people. The sanctions against Russia, which affect people in the global south, in Europe and in Germany, also contribute significantly to this: inflation, increased energy and food prices as well as loss of real wages affect the population, especially the poorer sections of it, and endanger industrial development also in our country. Hunger crises are looming in the global south because grain, corn, vegetable oil and fertilizers are no longer arriving and prices have risen massively. We condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022. We also condemn the previous breaches of treaties and non-fulfillment of commitments by NATO countries. DJ..."left wing party elites" are destroying their own parties by going for extreme right wing politics... [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/where-europes-far-right-has-gained-ground[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/where-europes-far-right-has-gained-ground (very biased...ZH sometimes is right wing)... DJ-A growing worry has to be "governments/politics" out of contact with the public...A "steering wheel" no longer connected to the wheels on the road...A main difference between the Dutch and the Germans is most of the time the Dutch may NOT blindly do what "authorities" tell them to do...In 1940-45 the nazi's did find out that -in that perspective-the Dutch -pften- are NOT "german"... Yes there is a lot of frustration-in most of the west- over "leaders" ignoring/destroying public interests to create money and send it to "the rich"....Populists do "play" with that... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/vvds-yesilgoz-says-no-but-will-prop-up-a-wilders-led-cabinet/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/vvds-yesilgoz-says-no-but-will-prop-up-a-wilders-led-cabinet/ ; The VVD will not be in the next cabinet because of its major losses in Wednesday’s general election, leader Dilan Yesilgöz told reporters on Friday at the start of talks on forming a new government. “The PVV and the NSC are the big winners. After 13 years, it is appropriate for us to take a different role,” Yesilgöz said, reflecting on the 13 years the VVD led the government under the leadership of Mark Rutte. “But we will make a centre-right coalition possible and we will support constructive suggestions,” she said. DJ, wilders/pvv now only is supported by the bbb-"farmersparty"....There may be a lot of talking...at the end wilders very likely will NOT become PM. Big comnpanies do not want this nazi as PM. There are almost daily protests against "anti-islam-ism" ... The pvv also denying climate collapse, long CoViD, ...They are in favor of 140 km/h car driving, against tax on flying...may even claim to be willing to get NL out of the Euro and EU... A lot of votes for the pvv are against the present political arrogance...but not in favor of the insanity the pvv/wilders is promoting... Another problem the pvv may have to face is "who is funding" the pvv ? Israel, US anti-islam crazies, some Russian sponsors...The pvv only has one (1) member...wilders himself... NL in crisis may be reflecting "the west" in crisis...Lots of reforms are needed...but kicking cans down the road only undermined any trust left in politics... DJ-I did vote for a party that did not make it into parliament...so I do NOT feel represented by ANY partu in NL parliament any longer...The "gap" between "politics" and "voters" is becoming a disasterzone... |
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Posted: November 24 2023 at 9:54am |
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The Duran on NL elections [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_YMusQsZaU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_YMusQsZaU ; Wilders win exposes fragile EU system, but don't count Globalists out=  00:02 Gert Wilders wins big in Netherlands election, causing shock in EU 02:35 The Dutch political system is fragmented and the winning party may not end up with the Prime Minister position 05:28 Fragile EU system exposed after Wilders' win 08:14 Rolling back sanctions on Russia will be difficult for Wilders. 10:43 Merkel's departure has led to changes in European politics, including the resignation of Rooter in the Netherlands. 13:34 Merkel's absence has exposed growing problems in Germany 16:23 EU and NATO are moving towards a more aggressive stance against Russia. 18:13 EU politicians are focusing on Russia as the real threat in Europe instead of China. 20:33 War economy for all of Europe is a disastrous idea. 22:47 Wilders win exposes fragile EU system Crafted by Merlin AI. DJ, There is hardly any left wing opposition left in NL...In cities 1-in-4 voters did not vote... |
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Posted: November 22 2023 at 10:17pm |
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[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/geert-wilders-conservatives-surge-top-polls-just-days-dutch-election[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/geert-wilders-conservatives-surge-top-polls-just-days-dutch-election ; Update (1841ET): It's official - Geert Wilders has won the Dutch elections and says he will lead the country's next government. DJ, Wilders may be correct in claiming the NL voter is totally fed up with (present) politics...However for now he may NOT be able to get ANY !!! party to work with him... From [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/far-rights-wilders-wins-a-shock-23-of-dutch-vote-in-exit-poll/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/far-rights-wilders-wins-a-shock-23-of-dutch-vote-in-exit-poll/ ; VVD leader Dilan Yesilgöz denied her party had made a “tactical error” by dropping Mark Rutte’s block on Geert Wilders’s party. Rob Jetten, leader of D66, said that despite Wilder’s efforts to appear milder in his campaign, “his extreme ideas are still there in the background”. D66 is on target to win 10 seats, well down on its current total of 24 but better than had been forecast. However, Jetten said, the VVD is also to blame. The party chose to allow the coalition to collapse in the summer “over the backs of refugees”. The VVD has “opened the door” to the PVV by normalizing the politics of intolerance”. Groningen University political scientist Leone de Jong told NOS that Jetten was right to partly blame the VVD. “The VVD let the cabinet fall over migration, but that theme has been claimed by the PVV and people prefer the original,” she said. DJ, Most center and left wing parties will blame the vvd for creating (in more than one way) the crisis that did result in the pvv becoming the largest NL party... pvv 37, vvd 24 seats out of 150 seats...together 61 seats...and most other parties may not want to work with them... Labour/pvda 23, NSC/omtzigt 20, D66 "green liberal" 9 = 52 seats...with lots of other small parties they may be able to keep pvv and vvd (extremists) out... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/election-2023-the-votes-have-been-counted-what-happens-next/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/election-2023-the-votes-have-been-counted-what-happens-next/ ; Votes in the general election are still being counted and the official result is still some days away, but the process of putting a new coalition together is about to begin. Here’s what you need to know. Firstly, will Geert Wilders be the next prime minister of the Netherlands? His party may have won 23% of the vote, and be by far the biggest in the lower house of parliament, but there are a whole load of bridges to cross before then. Coalition negotiationsLater on Thursday, the leaders of all the parties which have won seats will meet parliamentary chairwoman Vera Bergkamp to decide who should be the verkenner – a senior statesman or women who looks into possible government coalitions in the days after a general election. The verkenner holds talks with party leaders to sound them out on potential partnerships. Once a potential coalition has been identified, the verkenner suggests a potential informateur, an appointment which has to be approved by the new house of parliament. He or she will then carry out the detailed negotiations with the parties likely to form a new cabinet. DJ...The EU may "go" for Timmermans labour party leader as next PM... |
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Posted: November 22 2023 at 9:37pm |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/far-rights-wilders-wins-a-shock-23-of-dutch-vote-in-exit-poll/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/far-rights-wilders-wins-a-shock-23-of-dutch-vote-in-exit-poll/ ; The far right PVV, which wants to close the borders to all immigration and ban the Koran, is the big winner in the Dutch general election. The shock exit poll result, which had not been predicted, saw the party take 23% of the vote, doubling its support from 2021. DJ, Blaming the housing crisis on refugees, NOT "mark(et) economy"...At first the pvv claimed "foreigners" take the jobs (and of course "women") now "refugees" steal the houses... Yes-we do see a lot of refugees...because we-in NATO-do start/support a lot of wars..."We" keep worsening climate change... -It fits in a trend; Argentina with Milei winning the Argentina elections...trump very likely winning in the US 24...In Germany, France also "right wing populists" score well in polls... -NL can be seen in many different ways; Urban-rural... North part may still have Scandinavian influence, the east German, South French influence...The west part of NL ("Holland" with over 5 million out of 118 million Dutch) has "Anglo Saxon influence... I still have to look at statistics; North may see more "social democratic influence", East may have gone for "Omtzigt" New Social Contract, the south may have gone for PVV, the west for "vvd" neo-liberals... Also the four main parties are run by people from the south (PVV, Social democratic), east (Omtzigt.NSC) only the vvd-neo-liberal is run by a person (the only woman) from Amsterdam... -DJ, This outcome (or any outcome) for now very likely will result in new elections within a few years... The pvv in some aspects (social security, some public interests) may do less harm than the vvd has done...The vvd forced new elections over "refugees" while the problems (wars, bad housing policy) were the outcome of their neo-liberal extremism...In my view the vvd paved the road for the pvv.. The pvv may also be "very pro-Israel"...could even have been "started" with Israeli help...So the "Gaza-genocide" with NL media being pro-Israel in general, may also have been a factor... -Some cities may have a totally different election outcome...Arnhem may not have seen 70%+ of the voters going to vote...(so 30%+ did not vote). In rural area's often 80%+ is voting... -It will further worsen the many crises...We may have cold winter weather; resulting in energy costs further increasing inflation... -It will be interesting to see if wilders/pvv can start/ger a governmentcoalition...It may take a lot of time (months) and might end up with nothing... -The farmersparty "BBB" went from 1 to 7 seaths in the 150 seats "second chamber"-marginal... -We still may see 16 parties in parliament (and some of the parties may see PM's going their own way...) -For that matter "chaos" is also reflected in these elections...but "politics" is supposed to get us out of chaos..not further in... |
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Posted: November 22 2023 at 1:13am |
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Parliament elections today in NL [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/live-blog-dutch-election-day-as-it-happens/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/live-blog-dutch-election-day-as-it-happens/ ; Among the more unusual locations where voting is taking place are the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam and Madurodam in The Hague. Cinemas, museums, churches and even a private home will also become polling stations for the day. The weather forecast for Wednesday is for a dry day with some sunshine in the morning, and frost in sheltered places at night. Experts suggest that good weather encourages more people to vote, with the lowest turnout ever recorded – just 73% – taking place on a chilly wet day in 1998. Turnout at the last general election was 78.7%, down three percentage points on 2017. There are 26 parties to choose from...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Netherlands[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Netherlands One of many issues; [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/too-many-cars-too-little-space-puts-parking-at-a-premium-nos/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/too-many-cars-too-little-space-puts-parking-at-a-premium-nos/ ; The problem is made worse by the growing number of cars, CBS figures show. In the four years to the start of 2023, 440,000 new cars were added to the Dutch fleet, bringing the total to 9 million, most of which are owned privately. DJ one car per two persons...Car use is increasing, public transport decreasing-linked a.o. to CoViD...But also the present right wing government has lots of lobby-links with fossil fuel (Shell), car industry etc...A possible outcome might be an even more right wing coalition... Cities-suburbs-rural area's all vote different. Most cities might be more "left" wing..there is also a "bible-belt" still. But in general "religious linked" parties (christian democratic) face an aging problem...(maybe by now there might be more "active muslims" going to a mosq with some frequency than there are "active cristians" going to a church with some frequency...How do you define "religion" in statistics ? Should you define religion ? NL had "church tax" running via a tax system. In 1940 public administration did inform the nazi's where to find the Jews. Over 100,000 Jewish-Dutch were murdered...Since Amsterdam had a high % of Jewish population about 10% of the Amsterdam population did not survive the war...). Trust in politics is (very) low....Even employers criticize "politics" for "kicking to many cans" down the road...Fragmentation-to many parties-is discussed...But if you introduce a 5% treshold you still may see over 10-15 parties in parliament...Only a few parties only get 1 seat in the 150 seat "second chamber"...Coalition is the normal way cabinet/government is made in NL. Often the largest party also has the Prime Minister...but not always the largest party ends up in government... The anti-islam party (run by wilders) did quite well in latest polls...If he/they end up becoming a major factor it will increase public unrest even more...The "farmersparty"BBB only would get 6 seats...a "new" party "new social contract" run by a dissident politician (former christian democratic) may end up with a lot of votes... |
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Posted: November 10 2023 at 1:48am |
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[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/pro-palestinian-rally-in-nyc-hits-new-york-times[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/pro-palestinian-rally-in-nyc-hits-new-york-times ; A large and boisterous pro-Palestinian Rally began at Bryant Park in Manhattan, then headed to the New York Times Building with thousands chanting "New York Times you can't hide, you're assisting Genocide." DJ-here in NL the extreme right wing "neo-liberal" vvd is supporting netanyahu...PM rutte-hoping his next job will be secretary general of NATO- again visited his "friend" bibi...NL is sending spare parts of F35's a.o. to Israel...also a hub for US weapon transports... [url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/arnhem/honderden-demonstranten-trotseren-arnhemse-buien-hier-komt-regen-uit-de-lucht-in-gaza-zijn-het-bommen~a3af80a7/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/arnhem/honderden-demonstranten-trotseren-arnhemse-buien-hier-komt-regen-uit-de-lucht-in-gaza-zijn-het-bommen~a3af80a7/ Yesterday evening here in Arnhem another major protest against the Gaza-genocide...Demonstrators were kept away from mcdonalds, starbucks...supposed to be supporting this genocide... NL economy is in recession because of NATO wars...extreme weather, inflation increase poverty.. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/politicians-need-to-make-choices-but-are-not-doing-so-scp/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/politicians-need-to-make-choices-but-are-not-doing-so-scp/ ; The next cabinet will have several tough issues to deal with but political parties have failed to make the choices needed to solve them in their manifestos, according to a new analysis by the government’s socio-cultural think-tank SCP. The SCP analysed 10 party programmes and concluded that while they all list which problems they want to tackle, they don’t say how they plan to do it. “For example, they have a lot to say about personnel shortages in healthcare and education, but they don’t actually deal with them,” said SCP director Karen van Oudenhoven in current affairs show Nieuwsuur. “Voters are not looking for promises. They want the cabinet to solve problems.” In addition, parties which do make concrete proposals fail to analyse if they can actually be put into practice. Plans to “get a grip on” migration and to combat climate change often conflict with international and EU treaties, the SCP points out. The SCP looked at 10 parties based on their current position in parliament, apart from Pieter Omtzigt’s NSC, because its manifesto came too late. At least three parties will be needed to form the next government and that means major compromises will have to be made across a wide range of issues. DJ...also in NL "politics" has lost contact with reality in many ways... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/bbb-hopeful-quits-over-secret-nazi-tweets-during-covid/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/bbb-hopeful-quits-over-secret-nazi-tweets-during-covid/ the "farmersparty " BBB is not doing very well in the polls...The neo-liberal extreme right wing vvd is getting most donations (no doubt shell, banks, billionairs, real-estate...all getting a good income from the many crisis this neo-liberals are creating...from housing to public transport all destroyed... I notice from climate activists to public healthcare/education/trade unions a tendency for more radicalism...Somehow after the election to destruction of everything "public" may even increase further... |
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Posted: August 17 2023 at 10:34pm |
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Here in NL we will have elections november 22- the rutte/PM government did fall over a -made up- refugee crisis...NL did see lots more refugees in the past...A basic problem is the neo-liberal politics did result in shortage of almost 1 million houses in NL... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/08/without-action-more-children-will-grow-up-in-poverty-cpb-warns/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/08/without-action-more-children-will-grow-up-in-poverty-cpb-warns/ ; The Dutch economy will grow by 0.7% overall in 2023 and double that next year, but unless the government takes action, more people will be living below the poverty line, the government’s macro-economic forecasting unit CPB said in its autumn statement. Although spending power is expected to rise by 1.9% on average because of wage growth, some 7% of the country’s children will grow up in poverty next year without new measures, the CPB said on Thursday. The Dutch economy has withstood several major shocks “surprisingly well” in recent years but the coronavirus crisis, the war in Ukraine and the energy crisis, high inflation and rising interest rates had a major impact on many households and businesses, the CPB said. The economy did nevertheless contract slightly in the first two quarters of this year, mainly due to declining exports and consumer spending. And inflation is set to remain high for longer than previously expected, at 3.9% in 2023 and 3.8% in 2024, the CPB said. DJ, shops did sell less goods for higher prices...April-May-June 2023 did see -4% sales in goods-higher prices meant +6% sales in money because of higher prices... Food increased sales +10% in value in money while food products sales did decrease 3%... In other words compared to second three months of 2022 you had to pay 110% of the 2022 price to get only 97% of the 2022 food products... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/08/17/trading-adyen-shares-briefly-halted-25-price-loss[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/08/17/trading-adyen-shares-briefly-halted-25-price-loss ; Trading in Adyen shares was briefly halted on the Amsterdam stock exchange on Thursday. The move followed a share price loss of 25 percent. That is the largest ever daily loss for the payment company, which has been listed on the Amsterdam stock exchange since 2018. The company’s very disappointing results caused the price drop. After the short trading break, the loss continued to mount. At around 11:35 a.m., the stock price had plummeted nearly 27 percent. DJ The payment company lost 18 billion€ in market value in one day NL stock trading yesterday... NL is the "trader" of the EU/Europe...If the EU-Germany "has problems" it may do a lot of harm in NL economy... However less export from imported goods may result in product being dumped in NL at low prices... DJ-I expect NL may NOT see economic recovery in the second half of 2023; -higher prices for food/energy=higher wages -higher interest rates may push up costs even further... -Housing crisis means higher costs for housing -Economic problems outside NL may see less global trade=less NL import/export [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_depression#Definitions[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_depression#Definitions ; Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative to the amount that could be produced using current resources and technology (potential output).[3] Another proposed definition of depression includes two general rules:[4][5]
There are also differences in the duration of depression across definitions. Some economists refer only to the period when economic activity is declining. The more common use, however, also encompasses the time until the economic activity has returned close to normal levels.[2] DJ...NATO "had to move east" resulting in higher food/energy costs...NATO countries than increased spending on the wars they created.... In many ways than increasing interests to limit inflation is only making matters worse... |
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DJ, Since rutte made clear he did not want to run again for vvd-neo liberal party leader...only finish his job as PM untill there is a new government formed (most likely elections mid november...in 2024 there may be another government...several parties involved...this is NL !) [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/12/justice-min-yesilgoz-wants-succeed-rutte-vvd-leader[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/12/justice-min-yesilgoz-wants-succeed-rutte-vvd-leader ; Justice Minister Dilan Yesilgöz wants to succeed Mark Rutte and become the new leader of the VVD. She has put herself forward as a candidate for party leader, the party announced after a report by the Telegraaf. According to the newspaper, the party board put her forward as a preferred candidate for the leader, but the VVD said that the preferred candidate will not be chosen until later this week. “What Mark Rutte has done for the VVD and for the Netherlands can hardly be expressed in words. It is his shoulders that I stand on if I succeed him as party leader,” Yesilgöz said in the Telegraaf. She said she is ready to make the Netherlands stronger and more resilient. “Safer, more prosperous, and ready for the future. With an eye and ear for the interests of the people for whom we do it, the inhabitants of the Netherlands.” On [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilan_Ye%C5%9Filg%C3%B6z-Zegerius[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilan_Ye%C5%9Filg%C3%B6z-Zegerius ; Dilan Yeşilgöz-Zegerius (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈdilɑn jeːˈʃilɡʏs seːˈ�£eːrijʏs];[3] born 18 June 1977) is a Dutch politician who has served as Minister of Justice and Security in the Fourth Rutte cabinet since 10 January 2022. A member of the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), she previously served as a member of the House of Representatives from 2017 to 2021 and State Secretary for Economic Affairs and Climate Policy from 2021 until 2022. Yeşilgöz-Zegerius was born in Ankara, Turkey, and emigrated to the Netherlands as a child.[4] Her family is from a Turkish-Kurdish[5][6] background and originally from Tunceli.[7] After attending her secondary education at the Vallei College in Amersfoort between 1991 and 1997, Yeşilgöz then studied social and cultural sciences at the VU University Amsterdam where she obtained a Master's degree in Culture, Organization and Management in 2003.[8][9] [url]https://nos.nl/collectie/13942/artikel/2482500-yesilgoz-van-gammel-vluchtbootje-naar-zicht-op-het-torentje[/url] or v in Dutch (she and her mother fled from Türkiye in 1984...via Kos-Greece she and her family was reunited with her father in NL. He worked as a trade union member and human rights activist). DJ, the Dutch "liberals" may be divided in several groups; very conservatives...allthough most "pro-family/anti arbortion, anti gay marriage" may be in "christian parties" or even more right wing parties... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/09/majority-dutch-people-want-rutte-return-cabinet-poll-says[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/09/majority-dutch-people-want-rutte-return-cabinet-poll-says There may be growing anger on WHY Rutte-IV government collapsed...disagreement on 5,000 refugees (per year) getting reunited with family members in NL... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/12/dutch-housing-shortage-nears-400000-homes-problem-will-continue-worsen-research[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/12/dutch-housing-shortage-nears-400000-homes-problem-will-continue-worsen-research ...we have an exploding shortage of housing...A major question on farmers/agri culture exports, NL is supporting NATO expansion in Eastern Europe (NL did see over 40, 000 Dutch men fighting with NAzi's in Russia 1941-45...NL was part of France in 1812...NApoleon reaching Moscow...Again NL is helping NAto...) A main reason why people do not learn from history is they do not want to face history... The christian democratic party CDA may have a problem in finding another leader...In polls they become a minor party (going from 15 seats to 8...most voters for CDA are old...The CDA may be replaced by the "pro-farmers party"BBB [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer%E2%80%93Citizen_Movement[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer%E2%80%93Citizen_Movement . |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/10/dutch-pm-rutte-says-will-seek-re-election[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/10/dutch-pm-rutte-says-will-seek-re-election ; Outgoing Prime Minister Mark Rutte will not be the VVD leader in the upcoming election, he said before the start of a parliamentary debate on his latest Cabinet collapsing. “When the new Cabinet takes office after the elections, I will leave politics,” he said. Rutte said he made his decision on Sunday. “There has been speculation over the past few days about what would motivate me. The only answer is the Netherlands. My position must be seen in that light.” He, therefore, decided not to make himself available to lead the VVD in the upcoming election. Rutte stressed that his decision to leave politics was his own and entirely personal. He based it on the developments over the last few weeks. He’s notified the VVD leader in the Tweede Kamer and his party chair, he said. DJ, Rutte (56) may increase his teaching at a The Hague/Den Haag school... Since elections may be held in mid november there may be more surprises... Does the farmers party support the Ukraine war/NATO ? Or could BBB maybe even go for neutrality (NL was neutral till may 10-1940...) and "make trade not war"...look more at the expanding BRICS+ market ? |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/07/mark-rutte-coalition-broke-on-unbridgeable-asylum-differences/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/07/mark-rutte-coalition-broke-on-unbridgeable-asylum-differences/ scenario's; -CDA "christian democrats" and vvd (neo-liberals/mark rutte) may try to continue their government...[url]https://eenvandaag.avrotros.nl/peilingtrends/politiek/zetelpeiling/[/url] or https://eenvandaag.avrotros.nl/peilingtrends/politiek/zetelpeiling/ and [url]https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweede_Kamerverkiezingen_2021[/url] or https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweede_Kamerverkiezingen_2021 in the present (150 seats) parliament vvd has 34 seats, cda has 15 seats...so both conservative parties now still have 49 seats...with support of D66 now at 24 seats they would be having 73 seats...75+ would be needed for a majority In the latest polls vvd stands at 28 seats (-6), cda at 8 (-7), D66 at 12 (-12)... So new elections would mean BBB-farmers party moving to 23 seats from 1.... Anti Islam party PVV now has 17 seats...in the latest polls it would be 15 (-2)...Groen Links and Labour/PvdA also have 17 seats...they plan to unite...in latest polss they would get 20 seats (+3)....So-for the "old parties" elections may cost them lots of seats...may even end rutte as PM.... -Continuation of a Rutte government is VERY unpopular....even a lot of the vvd/cda voters may be against this idea...It very likely further would destabilize the situation-worsen many crises-even further... -New elections may result in an onworkable outcome...In NL parliament we already have 17 parties....There is not much support for a treshold...150 seats means 0,66% of the votes is one seat...In that way you already need a lot of votes... -Polls indicate neo-liberals-vvd and farmer party-BBB may fight for who gets #1...both could get 1/6 of all the seats...together that would be 50 seats... Labour-greens (Pvda/Groen Links) could end up with 20 seats, anti-islam pvv around 15-just like D66...so 5 parties would end up taking around 100 of the 150 seats...In elections we may see up to 15-20 other parties also trying to get votes....[url]https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweede_Kamerverkiezingen_2021#Deelnemende_partijen[/url] or https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweede_Kamerverkiezingen_2021#Deelnemende_partijen had 37 parties....Some of them not that serious....[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_Future[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_Future also named "Feest Partij"=Party Party...may be one of them... -So increasing a treshold may end up with less parties, in fact less democracy, but still NOT solve the problem...If a party would need to get at least two seats...1,5% of the votes-you still may see several small parties...In theory if a minimum would be two seats with 50 seats open you could end up with 25 parties with each two seats... -A "National cabinet" [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_unity_government[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_unity_government with "limited political links between ministers and parties" may be a way out...However by now most parties in NL want elections... Those elections very likely may be held at the end of october, early november....3-4 months from now... ----------------- DJ-We may be in a political swamp very likely for months...This may bring "positions getting more clear" to get votes... -The Ukraine war is costing a lot of money, worsening the housing situation and for what ? I think both on the right and soon also on the left from "main stream" voices will speak out against that war...(DJ-I am NOT neutral...I voted PSP-anti NATO when it was possible...I am left wing !) -The refugee crisis is a factor...If the Ukraine war/other wars would end...less refugees show up in NL the point for creating this crisis will damage the vvd-neo liberals... -Extinction Rebellion/XR is getting more and more active...we have seen a lot of crazy weather...More climate damage may also get more votes for "green parties" D66, Groen Links, Animal rights PvdD all claim to be "green".... -Farm-fires...often killing thousends of farm animals-may be bad for BBB/farmers party (funded by farm-food producers)...and we may have that kind of fires quite often... -H5N1 now is in wild birds in NL ...much less in poultry...The H5N1 situation may be also a factor... -Of course CoViD is NOT over... -In Berlin, in Spain, right wing parties give cars again more room at the costs of bikes/pedestrians...Riding a bicycle is seen as "left wing" not as a solution for a mobility problem (no doubt fossil fuel/car industry will promote that insanity...). -Urban/Rural differences-and Holland versus rest of NL is also a problem...I live in the [url]https://www.groenemetropoolregio.nl/english-green-metropolitan-region-arnhem-nijmegen/[/url] or https://www.groenemetropoolregio.nl/english-green-metropolitan-region-arnhem-nijmegen/ If you include some other nearby places we have over 1 million people in this region (NL has a population of close to 18 million)...but we are NOT in Holland...see less investments in infrastructure, universities, culture...than there is in "Holland"...Farmers switchting from farm-animals to "green building" is part of that discussion as well...NL is the second largest agri-culture exporter after the US...if you exclude flowers we end up #5 in food export... 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Posted: July 06 2023 at 8:27am |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/06/survival-ruttes-fourth-cabinet-uncertain-amid-asylum-policy-infighting[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/06/survival-ruttes-fourth-cabinet-uncertain-amid-asylum-policy-infighting ; The future of the fourth Cabinet of Prime Minister Mark Rutte is uncertain, unnamed sources from both the Cabinet and the coalition parties told RTL Nieuws, AD, ANP, the Telegraaf and NOS on Thursday. This comes in the wake of discussions held on Wednesday night among the coalition parties regarding the influx of asylum seekers and other migration issues. A new round of talks is scheduled for Thursday evening. If a compromise cannot be reached during this meeting, it might lead to the immediate dissolution of the coalition. Debates about migration policy have been ongoing within the coalition for months. Rutte's VVD party and the CDA are calling for a strict set of measures to restrict the number of asylum seekers who enter the Netherlands, while D66 and ChristenUnie are more reluctant to implement strict measures on these matters. A major point of disagreement centers around the development of a “two status system” for asylum seekers, in which incoming asylum seekers would receive either an “A” or “B” status at the start of their application process, and that would determine what rights they get. The A-status would be a permanent residence permit; the B-status would be temporary. The contention arises over whether people under B status are also entitled to family reunification rights. The sources said this issue has notably caused a rift between the VVD and the ChristenUnie. The VVD aims to distinguish between refugees who face personal threats and those escaping from war. The party wants to make it more difficult for relatives of refugees in the latter group to enter the Netherlands. Sources also revealed to NOS that the VVD wants a monthly limit of 200 returnees from that group, along with a mandatory waiting period of two years before they are permitted entry into the Netherlands. The ChristenUnie found the proposal unacceptable. D66 leader Sigrid Kaag is also said to have immediately indicated that the proposal is unacceptable. Unnamed sources who spoke to RTL Nieuws said the current relationship between coalition parties is poor and toxic. This was evident during last night's discussions. It was reported by RTL Nieuws that members from D66 and ChristianUnie were taken aback and annoyed by Rutte's attitude. In the meetings, the prime minister was described as "unreasonable," with one member from D66 commenting, "He seemed to no longer want to listen. His approach towards the Cabinet is reckless." "Rutte seems to be on a collision course,” a high-ranking source from the CDA said. "I've never seen him like that. It looks like he is pushing toward a crisis." DJ, the "neo-liberal vvd" is not doing that well in the polls-but they hope to get votes by "stopping refugees"(from wars they supported...climate change they did not stop..). The farmersparty BBB may gain a lot of votes and could be "a better partner" for rutte his vvd...Christian Union and Democrats '66 (more left wing neo liberals) would be kicked out...However CDA-VVD-BBB may not win enough votes...(8+28+23=59 seats...75 are needed-even with anti-Islam PVV -15 in latest poll- 74 seats would not be enough... |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/15/dutch-coalition-likely-lose-9-senate-seats-election-many-voters-undecided[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/15/dutch-coalition-likely-lose-9-senate-seats-election-many-voters-undecided ; The Rutte IV coalition of VVD, D66, CDA, and ChristenUnie will lose nine seats in the Senate after today’s Provincial Council elections, according to EenVandaag and Ipsos’ final poll before the polling stations opened on Wednesday. The poll also found that a remarkable number of voters are still undecided. Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s VVD could lose its throne as the biggest party in the Eerste Kamer to both the right-wing farmers’ party BBB or the left-wing combination of PvdA/GroenLinks. According to the latest poll, the VVD could get 12 seats in the Eerste Kamer, the Dutch Senate. BBB stands at 13 projected seats and PvdA/GroenLinks at 14. If this final poll comes close to the election result, the coalition will be even further away from a majority in the Eerste Kamer than after the 2019 election. Then the VVD, D66, CDA, and ChristenUnie got a joint 35 seats, already too few for a majority in the 75-seat Senate. According to the latest poll, the coalition will only have 23 seats after this election. VVD stays stable at 12 seats. D66 drops from seven seats to 4, CDA drops from 9 to 5, and ChristenUnie from 4 to 2. With 23 seats, the coalition would need 15 opposition seats’ support to pass anything through the Senate. It could go right-wing, working to gain support from BBB (13) and JA21 (3). Or it could look for help on the left from GroenLinks/PvdA (14) and SP (5). According to the poll, today’s election will significantly shake up the Senate on the right wing. FvD will lose 10 of the 12 seats it won in 2019, leaving the far-right party with 2 seats. The PVV (8), BBB(13), and JA21 (3) all stand to make significant gains. The picture on the left-wing side of the opposition is remarkably stable, EenVandaag said. PvdA/GroenLinks will get 14 seats, the same number the two parties got separately in 2019, at 8 for GroenLinks and 6 for PvdA. SP will gain one seat, going to 5, and animal party PvdD will go from 3 to 4. The poll also showed that a remarkable number of voters were still undecided the day before the election. 43 percent of people who said they would vote did not yet know which party they would vote for. A day before the parliamentary election in 2021, 32 percent of voters were still dithering. The many undecided voters could make the election results differ widely from the polls. DJ, Due to neo-liberal rule for 12 years under rutte 40% of NL households live in poverty, 1-in-6 NL citizens "stand outside society"....Income inequality grew, we have a major housing crisis, strikes all over the public sector... Maybe more important; trust in politics, governments in NL-like in many other countries-is at an all time low...DJ-My view-at present "politics" lost contact with most of the public they claim to represent...All over the world people want safety, a better future for their children, access to education, healthcare, housing, transport...An out of control neo-liberal/neo-conservative politics-only in contact with a rich elite-would even privatize "your mother"....While increasing their incomes "politics" is dumping all kinds of public responsabilities to "the market" for profit... At the end (public, basic) services-once done at a price just to cover reasonable costs- become unaffordable for most...Price pushed up to maximize share holder value, pay for advertising, insane saleries for the CEO.... Why SARS-1 in 2003 was "stopped", SARS-2/CoViD-19 could become a pandemic simply is related to how politics disfunction...Once governments realized the need to keep its population "healthy and happy" now "politics is for sale".... The tide is turning... |
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DJ...arresting people because they call for a demonstration in NL gets a lot of people-and even government supporting parties-very angry. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/01/hundreds-of-climate-activists-gather-in-the-hague-block-the-a12/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/01/hundreds-of-climate-activists-gather-in-the-hague-block-the-a12/ and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/hundreds-extinction-rebellion-activists-block-a12-hague[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/hundreds-extinction-rebellion-activists-block-a12-hague ; According to the climate activist group, talks with the municipality, the police as well as the OM are said to have led to nothing to facilitate a peaceful demonstration. “We are fully entitled to demonstrate in a location and manner of our choice. We do this peacefully and are committed to the safety of our demonstrators and road users. We hear from the media that the police are planning to refer people to the Malieveld, although our demonstration is not taking place there. We are disappointed that the police are trying to frustrate our demonstration in such a cynical way,” Kervers said in the group’s press release. Angered by the arrests, leaders of about 40 civil society organizations are taking part in a show of support. The event will take place on an overpass over the A12 highway. Among others, Greenpeace, FNV, Urgenda, the Aids Fund, Cordaid, the COC, the Cyclists' Federation, the Humanist Verbond, Milieudefensie and the Stichting Vluchteling have announced their participation in this protest DJ, so now also trade unions, refugee organizations, gay-right groups, etc. join the protests...What I do make of it there are several thousend protesters at (at least) three places in The Hague... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/27/netherlands-heading-socially-disruptive-asylum-crisis-involved-authorities-warn[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/27/netherlands-heading-socially-disruptive-asylum-crisis-involved-authorities-warn ; The authorities fear there won’t be any shelter available for thousands of asylum seekers within a few weeks. Undocumented migrants will then roam the country and cause problems, especially in the large cities, the authorities warned. If nothing changes, the COA expects a shortage of 8,000 reception places by April. Over the past months, the Netherlands hastily set up thousands of shelter spots, so people didn’t have to sleep outside in the winter. But most of them are temporary. Nieuwsuur recently reported that the contracts for 35 locations would expire by June 1, leaving the country 38,000 reception places short. The Ministry thinks more people will seek safety and shelter in the Netherlands this year than expected. According to NRC’s sources, the new forecasts show 45,000 asylum seekers coming to the Netherlands this year, 10,000 more than the Ministry’s estimate at the end of last year. DJ, Very likely already thousends of refugees live with friends/family or in all kind of (homelees) shelters...So in a bad scenario tens of thousends of people may end up without shelter in NL this summer...NL "government" is supporting all kinds of crazy wars-however refugees-as a result of those wars-are not welcomed... I think in most of "the west" trust in politics/government is gone..."Opposition parties" (UK-labour, NL-"left"-in Germany social democrats/greens are supposed to be the government) often offer no realistic alternatives... Strikes to compensate for high inflation do see anti-strike laws made up by governments out of public support...The social/healthcare system is getting very overstretched...Police is out of policestaff to deal with a lot of issues... Neo-liberalism is pushing NL-Europe towards collapse...(and then there are also pandemics and wars...) |
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DJ, [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/26/extinction-rebellion-activists-arrested-home-plans-block-a12-highway[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/26/extinction-rebellion-activists-arrested-home-plans-block-a12-highway ; The police arrested six climate activists at their homes on Thursday morning for plans to block the A12 highway on Saturday. “Calling for a criminal offense, such as blocking the public road, counts as sedition,” the Public Prosecution Service (OM) said. According to the climate action group Extinction Rebellion (XR), at least two of the arrested nonviolent climate activists form part of the group, and the arrests are part of an effort to suppress the peaceful blockade. “XR condemns the criminalization of nonviolent climate activists,” XR said. “The right to peaceful protest is being trampled by the Dutch state.” Extinction Rebellion plans to block the A12 highway next to parliament and the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Climate Policy in The Hague on Saturday to nonviolently demand an immediate end to the government's annual fossil subsidies. According to XR, over a thousand people have signed up for the protest. According to the OM, concerns for global warming “is no excuse to call for blocking an important public road.” A previous blockade, on November 26 last year, “led to dangerous traffic situations in The Hague,” the OM said. The police, therefore, arrested six activists for questioning. “Demonstration is a fundamental right and is facilitated by the municipality of The Hague,” the OM said. “But a demonstration is not a license to commit criminal offenses.” According to the OM, the authorities have no choice but to act if the safety of others is endangered. Arresting people because they call for a protest/blockade of a road did get a lot of organizations angry; According to news wire ANP, the arrests resulted in nine civil society organizations pledging to take part in the climate protest on the A12 on Saturday. "The directors consider it important to support the action because the right to protest in the form of civil disobedience is under pressure," Greenpeace said in a statement issued on behalf of itself, Urgenda, Milieudefensie, FNV, De Goede Zaak, Both ENDS, Fossielvrij NL, the Jonge Klimaatbeweging, and Oxfam Novib. According to the organizations, the fact that the Dutch authorities labeled a call to demonstrate as sedition is "not only unjustified, it is also an attempt to negatively influence and criminalize the social debate about peaceful action." "We disapprove of this intimidation and find it unacceptable," said Oxfam Novib director Michiel Servaes in the same statement DJ, there is a basic freedom of expression, opinion, demonstration in NL. In practice farmers using tractors -as a "tool"- did block roads many times. The police had to call for defense/military support to deal with that kind of blockades... DJ-My view-police in NL is understaffed to deal with the amount of protests and may -sometimes- end up acting less professional. (In an anti-vaccine protest beating a demonstrator who already was on the ground is pointless. Here in Arnhem [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ_NUnOTGJQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ_NUnOTGJQ the "Kings day riots" april 2021 maybe could have been avoided when "stewards-like" response was given. In this eXtinction Rebellion (XR) planned demonstration XR could have been asked to "take a certain role for security". XR in many countries is "all ages". Schoolstrikes to grandparents (sometimes over 80 !) willing to block highways...using riot police against such a group is "unwise"..... |
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DJ; [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/20/little-confidence-dutch-politics-trust-rutte-iv-cabinet-plummets[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/20/little-confidence-dutch-politics-trust-rutte-iv-cabinet-plummets ; Netherlands residents’ confidence in Dutch politics has never been as low as it is now, Ipsos found in a study commissioned by NOS for Prinsjesdag. Trust in the Rutte IV Cabinet and Prime Minister Mark Rutte himself is also reaching new lows. A year ago, 61 percent of Netherlands residents had little to no confidence in Dutch politics. That increased to 67 percent this year. Lack of trust in the Cabinet increased from 63 percent last year to 71 percent now. And 67 percent of Netherlands residents have no confidence in Rutte as Prime Minister, compared to 56 percent last year. In September, two-thirds of 30,000 EenVandaag respondents said it was time for new elections. The Rutte IV Cabinet received a failing score of 4.2, an entire point lower than the 5.2 Netherlands residents gave it around the municipal elections in March. Since the Cabinet took office in January, Rutte’s fourth team of Ministers and State Secretaries has never gotten a “sufficient” score. The Cabinet still has majority support only among people who voted for the VVD (69 percent) and D66 (55 percent). The supporters of the other two coalition parties, CDA and ChristenUnie, are much more pessimistic. Sixty percent of CDA voters and 62 percent of CU supporters have little to no trust in the Cabinet. Among the opposition parties, distrust in the Cabinet ranges from 71 percent of GroenLinks voters to 96 percent of BBB voters. According to the Ipsos researchers, the new low for confidence in politics has to do with new crises emerging while old problems have still not been solved. A massive 77 percent of Netherlands residents think the country is going in the wrong direction. When asked why they don’t have confidence in politicians, 64 percent cited the energy crisis, 59 percent the housing market, 58 percent immigration and asylum, 56 percent inflation, and 55 percent healthcare. Those are also the things the Cabinet should focus on, according to voters. Politicians should pay less attention to the freedom of religion, development cooperation, and nitrogen problems, they believe Of course NL is not the only country in a deep crisis...one problem is there may not be much alternatives... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/20/emergency-ordinance-hague-farmers-head-protest-budget-day[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/20/emergency-ordinance-hague-farmers-head-protest-budget-day ; Update 8:17 a.m. - More information regarding protesting farmers added to paragraphs 3 and 4 Today is Prinjsesdag, Budget Day, in the Netherlands. The Hague implemented an emergency ordinance in the city “due to serious fears of disturbance of public order and safety on Prinsjesdag” caused by protesting farmers. A few farmers are already in the city, and more are on the way. “Farmers who want to demonstrate in the city with their tractors will be sent back and, if necessary, led elsewhere from the city boundary,” the municipality tweeted. A city spokesperson said the mayor issued the ordinance after the police “observed farmers’ movements” towards the city. “They would be on their way to The Hague to disrupt public order. We cannot take that on Prinsjesdag, especially now that the public is allowed to be present for the first time” since 2019. -
This is the first coronavirus restrictions-free Budget Day since 2019. Many thousands of people are expected in The Hague, trying to catch a glimpse of King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima driving past in the Glass Carriage or the Royal family waving from the balcony of Noordeinde Palace afterward. and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/19/energy-costs-expected-fall-everyone-cabinet-works-deal-energy-firms[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/19/energy-costs-expected-fall-everyone-cabinet-works-deal-energy-firms ; Political leaders in The Hague have nearly concluded an agreement with energy companies that will bring down electricity and gas costs for most households, reported broadcaster NOS. The final details are still being worked out in talks between the Cabinet and the businesses about measures which can be quickly introduced to combat the high cost of energy. Though sources close to the talks told NOS the meeting would almost certainly result in a done deal, sources told newswire ANP on Monday that “it can still be a long evening.” Households should see a reduction in the advance payments they need to pay for energy bills in November and December, NOS reported. Then, starting in January, the government will take over payment of a portion of energy bills. This will be the case regardless of household income. DJ Energy costs did see energy intensive production (glasshouses-agriculture; flowers... but also aluminium production) stop...Up to 16% of social housing has single-glass, poor insulation...so they already did pay a lot for energy and may not be helped enough...NL inflation now at a record 12% ...[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/19/mortgage-rates-quickly-rise-4-percent-summer-dip[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/19/mortgage-rates-quickly-rise-4-percent-summer-dip may see a housing price bubble explode... It is far more complex then "just energy" or "just inflation"....like in many other countries the basic problem is trust...emotional... |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/17/many-people-lost-faith-current-cabinet-poll[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/17/many-people-lost-faith-current-cabinet-poll ; More people have lost faith in the current Cabinet than any other Cabinet under Prime Minister Mark Rutte, according to a poll from EenVandaag. Two thirds of respondents said they wanted new elections. The Cabinet received a score of 3.3 from 30,000 respondents on EenVandaag's Opinion Panel. The energy, purchasing power and migrant crises were the some of the reasons many people felt the current Cabinet was ineffective. The nitrogen controversy and gas extraction in Groningen were also important issues to the panelists. "Many people are literally in the cold this winter and groceries have become very expensive. I see no leadership from the Cabinet and I feel that we as citizens do not matter," one member of the panel told EenVandaag. Most respondents said they believed the current problems would only get worse. For example, 80 percent believed purchasing power would further deteriorate, 72 percent thought the energy crisis would intensify and 69 percent thought the asylum and housing crises would worsen. Even a sizeable amount of coalition party supporters said they wanted new elections within the next six months. "This Cabinet has completely lost the majority of the Netherlands with the nitrogen, asylum and energy policy. In addition, they strongly disagree with each other in the coalition, which means that no decisive action is possible. New elections are needed to solve this," a VVD voter told EenVandaag DJ-No doubt related;[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/17/princess-amalia-prime-minister-rutte-potentially-targeted-organized-crime[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/17/princess-amalia-prime-minister-rutte-potentially-targeted-organized-crime ; Security measures have been heightened for Princess Amalia and Prime Minister Mark Rutte amid fears that an organized crime group will attack or kidnap one of them, De Telegraaf reports. The police and Public Prosecution Service (OM) are on high alert because of indications that the group's leaders will target the princess or prime minister. Authorities are also concerned with the recent close contact between two high-profile inmates of the Extra Secure Institution in Vught, Ridouan Taghi and Mohammed B. Taghi is an alleged criminal leader, while B. is serving a life sentence for the murder of Theo van Gogh. B. was transferred due to concerns that the two were becoming too close. However, they have since exchanged letters that may have contained encoded messages, according to De Telegraaf. The Dutch crown princess began attending the University of Amsterdam in early September. She appears not to be living in her dorm, De Telegraaf reports. This is the second time Rutte has been allegedly targeted by the criminal group. Last September, the prime minister's security was stepped up due to suspicion that he could be attacked or abducted by organized crime DJ, At least two men were arrested for making claims-on "social media" they wanted to kill PM rutte...Very unreal for NL norms...[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/09/justice-minister-slams-wokeism-extreme-right-and-conspiracy-theorists-in-democracy-speech/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/09/justice-minister-slams-wokeism-extreme-right-and-conspiracy-theorists-in-democracy-speech/ ; Justice minister Dilan Yeşilgöz-Zegerius has slammed wokeism, extreme right-wing politicians and conspiracy theorists as a threat to Dutch democracy, in a speech in Amsterdam. The justice minister said that the government’s own ‘large mistakes’ in dealing with gas damage in Groningen and in the childcare benefits affair that felled the last administration, have created a chasm between rulers and people, but named two new ‘threats’ to democracy. In the annual HJ Schoo reading on Monday night, she said government failings and serious criminality are not the only challenge to Dutch society: wokeism, fake news and extreme politics that feeds on conspiracy theories are others. DJ, Opening borders while also decreasing spending on police, customs did open doors for international crime...If a German commits a crime in NL returns to Germany it may be difficult to take legal steps...borders still matter in fighting EU crime... Also fire arms from the Yugoslavia-more recent-Ukraine wars end up in criminal hands. The shooters using those weapons often are under 18 y/o.... |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/08/baby-dies-as-conditions-at-overcrowded-ter-apel-refugee-centre-worsen/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/08/baby-dies-as-conditions-at-overcrowded-ter-apel-refugee-centre-worsen/ ; Aid agency Médicins sans Frontières has described conditions at Ter Apel refugee reception centre as ‘inhumane’ after answering an unprecedented call for emergency aid in the Netherlands. The deteriorating situation was underlined on Wednesday when a three-month old baby died in a sports hall being used as an overspill centre for new arrivals. The asylum accommodation service COA said it was ‘deeply shocked by this terrible event’, but would not comment on the circumstances of the infant’s death while an investigation is ongoing. Médicins sans Frontières (MSF) will start work on Thursday to provide medical and psychological care to refugees in Ter Apel, which is the first port of call for anyone seeking asylum in the Netherlands. In recent weeks up to 700 people have slept outside the gates of the facility because there is no space inside, where there is an official limit of 2,000 places. On Wednesday the regional safety board ordered all tents and makeshift shelters to be removed because of security concerns. As tensions grow fights have broken out outside the camp, with people using knives and improvised weapons such as tent pegs. ‘Medical emergencies’ Judith Sargentini, director of MSF’s Dutch branch AzG Nederland, said the conditions at Ter Apel were ‘inhumane’. ‘AzG has existed for 50 years, but this is the first time we have provided emergency aid in the Netherlands, and we’re doing it because the Dutch government has asked for it.’ The agency said it had found people with chronic illnesses, pregnant women and children among those sleeping outdoors. Some had run out of medicine for their condition, while others had developed skin conditions after not being able to wash for a week. ‘If this situation continues it will lead to serious medical emergencies,’ Sargentini told the AD. The Red Cross closed its humanitarian service point on Wednesday for the second time in a week after being overwhelmed with enquiries. Red Cross closed A spokesman said more staff were needed to cope with the extra demand and it was not clear when the service point would reopen. Last week it was closed because the Red Cross was concerned about the safety of its workers after fights broke out at the camp. The organisation warned back in June that the situation at Ter Apel was ‘inhuman and untenable’, with refugees not having access to food and water for hours. The safety council said it had ordered tents outside the gates to be removed because they could be used to store weapons or illegal substances. The beige overhead covers put up by the COA will remain in place. Other security measures have been stepped up after the municipal council in Westerwolde issued an emergency order giving police wider powers to stop and search people at the centre and increasing the use of security cameras. DJ, Not in this article; -Two refugees send to hospital, one with hearthproblems, the other with neglected diabetes-did not get insulin for one month -in sewage samples polio virus residu was detected DJ-The NL government created this crisis on purpose to keep refugees away from NL. The "neo-liberal" vvd even wants to close NL borders for refugees-in the mean time sending tens of millions worth of weapons to keep wars going... Ukraine refugees-since there is a EU-Ukraine treaty-are "refugees first class" allowed to work, better housing etc. There are around 75,000 Ukrainian refugees in NL. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/08/26/rutte-pledges-full-focus-asylum-eu-demands-investigation-babys-death[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/08/26/rutte-pledges-full-focus-asylum-eu-demands-investigation-babys-death DJ-NL is in a major political crisis...the present "liberal-cristian-coalition" has lost most public support...but opposition is very divided. Both to the right and left of the present government coalition several parties try to gain support. (DJ-with a large group of the population very likely not going to vote or casting a "protest-vote"...trust in politics is at a very low point). Like US, UK, in NL (and several other European continent countries) social unrest, strikes, will increase. Inflation, housing, etc. are growing problems. Since a lot of NL houses are build on clay the extreme drought is causing cracks in the walls/foundations...Housing prices may go down-putting a lot of people in further problems; they soon may learn they "own a debt, the bank owns the house..."). |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/30/police-prevent-farmers-jail-break-attempt-apeldoorn[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/30/police-prevent-farmers-jail-break-attempt-apeldoorn ; The police hermetically sealed off the Gelderland municipality of Apeldoorn on Wednesday evening to prevent demonstrating farmers on tractors from reaching the police station on Europaweg. The municipality learned on social media that farmers would try to free previously arrested activists in custody there. Mayor Ton Heerts issued an emergency ordinance on Wednesday evening for a large part of Apeldoorn to give the police room to work. The police closed the exit to Apeldoorn on the A1 highway on Wednesday evening. There was a police blockade on the provincial road N304, which also shut off Europaweg. There were also many police vehicles and barriers in other places and around the municipality. The demonstrators advanced on Kanaal Zuid on the outskirts of Apeldoorn. The police set up a blockade there. They ordered the farmers to leave, and after over 90 minutes, they complied. Various groups of activists on tractors tried to reach Europaweg via other routes, but each one encountered a large police force. DJ [url]https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stikstofcrisis[/url] or https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stikstofcrisis [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/06/police-officers-forced-to-flee-as-farmers-protests-intensify/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/06/police-officers-forced-to-flee-as-farmers-protests-intensify/ ; Police chiefs, politicians and farming leaders have condemned Tuesday night’s rioting outside the main home of government minister Christianne van der Wal, who has been charged with getting nitrogen pollution under control. Farmers used their tractors to break through the police line close to her home, and at one point the situation was so dangerous, police officers say they had to flee for their own safety. Farmers also threw fireworks and dumped manure on the road. DJ, The NL main political parties encouraged farmers to "grow big" for decades...RABO-bank did get "very rich" this way...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabobank[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabobank ;In terms of Tier 1 capital, the organisation is among the 30 largest financial institutions in the world. Since nitrogen-levels in NL has been above international levels for years NL courtcases did force the NL government to "accept their own laws"...Since NL government did invest a lot in KLM, and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/27/schiphol-ignored-proposed-solutions-crowds-chaos-report[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/27/schiphol-ignored-proposed-solutions-crowds-chaos-report Amsterdam international airport (also with NO permits on climaterules etc...) solving nitrogen problems by NL politics is being pushed to farmers... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/29/farmers-threaten-protest-dutch-airports-police-claim-attempted-manslaughter-earlier[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/29/farmers-threaten-protest-dutch-airports-police-claim-attempted-manslaughter-earlier DJ This farmer protest comes on top of lots of other scandals; [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/27/rivm-withheld-concerns-overtaxed-hospitals-start-pandemic-report[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/27/rivm-withheld-concerns-overtaxed-hospitals-start-pandemic-report [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/29/primary-schools-short-9100-teachers-last-year[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/29/primary-schools-short-9100-teachers-last-year Why spent tax money on public goals, healthcare, education when you can spent that money on your party-sponsors ? The NL "liberal party" vvd made our democracy into a democrazy....But that "neo-liberal revolution" did destroy public healthcare in many countries. May be one of the reasons why SARS-1 was stopped in 2003, SARS-2 was NOT stopped in 2020...it is political...). [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/27/buses-utrecht-amersfoort-regional-public-transport-workers-strike[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/27/buses-utrecht-amersfoort-regional-public-transport-workers-strike there was government money to keep public transport going...that may now end "because the pandemic is over"... Somehow the neo-liberals claim to "save the climate" by defunding public transport...Number of people riding a bike getting killed in NL traffic is "high"-almost daily... Since the pandemic is NOT over-government just is ignoring it...we may face another lockdown to avoid a total collapse of public healthcare (with NL hospitals now also taking in wounded from Ukraine...). If we want to get out of this global crisis we need leaders leading us into another direction...we may NOT survive the present "leaders"... |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/09/22/questions-far-right-fvd-event-us-embassy[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/09/22/questions-far-right-fvd-event-us-embassy ; Various parties in parliament raised questions about an FvD event at the American embassy in Wassenaar earlier this month. De Groene Amsterdammer revealed that the embassy hosted a kind of fundraising party for far-right politician Thierry Baudet and his party. Members of FvD and entrepreneurs attended. American ambassador Pete Hoekstra also spoke at the event, according to De Groene Amsterdammer. DJ This "US sponsored" fvd "party" now making [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/06/threateningand-absurd-d66-leader-discusses-torch-bearing-man-arrested-home[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/06/threateningand-absurd-d66-leader-discusses-torch-bearing-man-arrested-home and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/07/health-min-deals-threats-intimidation-daily[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/07/health-min-deals-threats-intimidation-daily With the US involved in again another regime-change operation why did the US sponsor/organize a fundraising activity for NL fascists ? What role does the US, or US organisations, play in European protests against CoViD-measures ? -NL CoVid numbers going up [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/07/netherlands-shatters-single-day-coronavirus-record-35000-infections-reported[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/07/netherlands-shatters-single-day-coronavirus-record-35000-infections-reported ; The Dutch public health institute was informed of nearly 35,000 new coronavirus infections in the Netherlands between Thursday and Friday morning. That was more than 10,000 higher than the previous record set just one day earlier. The RIVM said Friday's high figure also includes all of the data which was missing from its report on Thursday due to an IT error. Despite the aberration caused by the missing data, the Netherlands has already broken its record for most infections reported in a week during the pandemic. The official statistic is calculated every seven-day period ending on Tuesday morning. Since the last report, a total of 84,244 coronavirus infections were registered by the RIVM, with four more days left to go. The previous weekly record was 82,340, set in December 2020. Testing was not available in the Netherlands on a wide scale until June 2020, over three months after the pandemic spread to the country. A total of 34,954 positive test results were recorded by the RIVM in its daily update on Friday. That pushed the seven-day moving average up 14 percent in a day to 21,526, based on raw data alone. The figure reached its highest point in over a month after ten consecutive increases. A combination of raw and corrected data pegged the figure at 21,487, a 62 percent increase in one week. Amsterdam destroyed its old record with a figure of 3,661, nearly two-thirds higher than the previous record set in the capital on Wednesday. That pushed the city's seven-day average up to 1,902, a 114 percent increase in a week. Rotterdam also set a new record of 2,420, nearly double its previous record. That city's seven-day average moved to 1,136, which doubled in a week. Utrecht also reported 965 infections, pushing that city's average to 533, and another 848 tested positive in Groningen, where the seven-day average was 345. The basic reproduction value jumped up significantly to 1.16, a figure which estimates the coronavirus situation on December 23. That means that 100 people contagious with the infection on that date was likely to pass it on to 116 others, who then infected another 135 people. The figure was at a more manageable 1.02 just three days earlier. Between December 30 and January 5, about 34.8 percent of those tested by the GGD received a positive diagnosis, also a record. An average of 63,281 tests were completed each day during that period, a third more than the previous week. Over 90,000 tests were conducted on January 5 alone. See also [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/01/new-covid-cases-soar-again-but-hospital-admissions-continue-to-decline/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/01/new-covid-cases-soar-again-but-hospital-admissions-continue-to-decline/ ...no doubt hospital cases will soon increase...NL weekly trends latest is cases +50%, deaths -45%... Birdflu in NL [url]https://www.wur.nl/en/research-results/research-institutes/bioveterinary-research/show-bvr/bird-flu-at-poultry-farms-in-20212022.htm[/url] or https://www.wur.nl/en/research-results/research-institutes/bioveterinary-research/show-bvr/bird-flu-at-poultry-farms-in-20212022.htm ; WBVR has analysed the HPAI H5N1 viruses found at the first three infected Dutch farms since October 2021. The virus is a newly introduced one, probably brought to the Netherlands by migratory birds. The viruses currently present in the Netherlands are not related to the Asian H5N1 strains that can infect humans. DJ Flu numbers in NL are still very low [url]https://www.nivel.nl/nl/nivel-zorgregistraties-eerste-lijn/actuele-weekcijfers-aandoeningen-surveillance[/url] or https://www.nivel.nl/nl/nivel-zorgregistraties-eerste-lijn/actuele-weekcijfers-aandoeningen-surveillance (Dutch) See also [url]https://www.rivm.nl/griep-griepprik/feiten-en-cijfers[/url] or https://www.rivm.nl/griep-griepprik/feiten-en-cijfers ; Dit blijkt uit de gegevens van Nivel Zorgregistraties Eerste Lijn en het Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieu (RIVM).  Bron grafiek: Peilstations participerend in Nivel Zorgregistraties and;  Bron grafiek: RIVM en Peilstations participerend in Nivel Zorgregistraties eerste lijn. DJ So even-for now-hardly any H3N2 in NL... |
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NL further total mismanagement during this pandemic; [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/04/thousands-tourists-diagnosed-covid-last-week-1000-visited-austria[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/04/thousands-tourists-diagnosed-covid-last-week-1000-visited-austria ; Winter sports holidays have made Austria the primary international destination where residents of the Netherlands contracted the coronavirus. Figures from the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) show that 964 people who tested positive last week visited the Alpine country within 14 days of their trip. That equals 15.8 percent of all infections that were traced to another country between December 27 and January 3, or roughly 6,100 in total. That figure was likely much lower than the real total due to contact tracing limitations, the RIVM said. France, also a popular ski and snowboard destination, follows in second place with 740 confirmed cases. In third is Belgium, which 682 people had visited before they were later found to be infected. That was followed by Germany (669 cases) and Spain (605 cases). Some 339 infected people also visited Italy in the last fourteen days, according to the figures, which were first reported by AD. - The United Kingdom, which is the only one of the most-frequently visited countries that has long been regarded by the government as a “very high-risk area” due to coronavirus, is in the middle of the list with 256 returning tourists having tested positive in the Netherlands. The United States is at roughly the same level. The RIVM called the figures "underestimations of the actual numbers and percentages.” Due to the high number of infections, the GGD health service branches do not always successfully conduct source and contact investigations after someone tested positive. In many cases, it is never established where someone likely contracted the virus. Of all the people who tested positive last week, at least 5.9 percent traveled abroad recently. The Outbreak Management Team (OMT) also notes in its latest advice "a large increase in reports of positively tested persons who have recently traveled to the Netherlands from abroad.” The experts who advise the Cabinet on the fight against coronavirus expect this number to increase further in the coming weeks and months. Everyone who comes to the Netherlands from abroad should take a self-test immediately after arrival, and repeat this after five days, the OMT said. Again-like last year-NL imported many cases after wintersports...most of them from Austria...but travel did bring a lot of variants to NL...the place were virusses meet ! [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/04/virologist-decision-open-schools-premature[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/04/virologist-decision-open-schools-premature ; Groningen virologist Bert Niesters said he did not think it was wise to make a definitive decision to reopen primary and secondary schools on schedule immediately after the winter break, given the growing number of coronavirus infections. He said he understands that the Cabinet is concerned about the learning disadvantages that arise from moving education online, and that there was considerable political pressure placed on the Cabinet. "But if classes are immediately sent home and schools start to close, we will have to again wait and see what they will say," Niesters stated. - Niesters said he did not understand why primary and secondary education was allowed to reopen, but higher education will remain closed. He was concerned that the Cabinet is constantly going back and forth with their coronavirus policy. "There has never been a target number for the number of infections at which decisions are made; No answer to the question, 'Where are we going?'" DJ; [url]https://twitter.com/BertMulderCWZ[/url] or https://twitter.com/BertMulderCWZ ; Als je dit ziet wie legt mij dan uit waarom de scholen open kunnen? Zónder extra maatregelen ook nog?Ben echt verbijsterd hoor, wat zijn we aan het doen? Waarom móet dit blijkbaar?  #omt #scholenveilig Some NL statistics; december 18 in NL 24% of all tests were positive-january 3 it was 31% december 18 Omicron was 10% of cases - january 3 it grew to 65% healthcare crisis did not improve 14,655 cases december 18- and 14,623 cases january 3 (with lockdown) "Omicron winning from lockdown and we reopen schools ? " DJ; Both US, UK, Canada indicating Omicron for (unvaccinated most) children is just as bad as Delta was... |
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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtZt-fT1peo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtZt-fT1peo ; Riot police tried to break up thousands of Dutch protesters as crowds gathered in Amsterdam to protest Covid lockdown and vaccination measures in the Netherlands today. Demonstrators, most of whom didn't wear masks and ignored social distancing guidelines, defied the local government's outlawing of the protest due to fears some demonstrators might be planning to attend 'prepared for violence'. Videos on social media showed one man escaping a police dog biting his hand, and, in other clips, showed chaos unfolding as crowds ran around the city. Some could also be seen being hit with batons as authorities tried to break up the march. Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema issued an emergency ordinance, empowering police to clear the central Museum Square, after the protesters violated a ban on holding public gatherings during the latest wave of coronavirus infections. As crowds marched, they played music and held yellow umbrellas in a sign of opposition to the government measures before being pushed away from Amsterdam's Museum Square as riot police marched across the grass to clear the area, sending the demonstrators into nearby streets after the municipality later issued an emergency order for people to leave. [url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362603/Dutch-lockdown-protesters-MAULED-police-dogs-hit-batons.html[/url] or https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362603/Dutch-lockdown-protesters-MAULED-police-dogs-hit-batons.html DJ [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/03/amsterdam-10000-attendees-30-arrests-4-cops-hurt-banned-lockdown-demonstration-new[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/03/amsterdam-10000-attendees-30-arrests-4-cops-hurt-banned-lockdown-demonstration-new Some questions on police tactics/plans... -Why use policevans as weapons/tools to break up (illegal) gatherings/demonstrations ? Lack of (wo)manpower ? -The timeline of last sunday Amsterdam protests may hint riot police pushing demonstrators away from the "Museumplein" (a major square) while more riot police was waiting in the direction most of the demonstration was directed to....in Amsterdam. I would welcome de-escalation...if you can not stop the protests "advice people not to come" but authorities should not deal with protests this way in a democratic country...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0okRzgNrc68[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0okRzgNrc68 totally unacceptable... |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/04/un-rapporteur-alleges-police-brutality-dutch-coronavirus-protests[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/04/un-rapporteur-alleges-police-brutality-dutch-coronavirus-protests ; The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture lashed out at the actions of Dutch police officers during their handling of coronavirus protests in the Netherlands. Nils Melzer sent out two tweets criticizing officers with videos from a protest on the Malieveld in The Hague last year, and a protest in Amsterdam this past weekend. - Professor Melzer is the Human Rights Chair at that Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, and a Professor of International Law at the University of Glasgow. For over five years, he has served as the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. DJ There have been several reports/cases of police beating up people allready "down"....it is unprofessional and causing further escalation. NL has seen police violence in the past with plainclothes police vigilantes beating up demonstrators when the camera's/press was gone. I may not agree on the views of people demonstrating but police tactics did worsen the situation in several cases. Part of the problem was lack of policecapacity....help from military police (not allways trained for riots) also did not help. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yDfaaKwL9w[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yDfaaKwL9w kingsday april 27 in Arnhem-last year. People were having an illegal party in the park....could it not be solved more peacefull ? Another question I have if it was all police or also "police-helpers" (Handhaving) using police violence. Spendingcuts on public services does mean police has to little staff doing to much work...wich does cause more incidents. Also this pandemic does cause new police(wo)men not getting the normal training. DJ-I think most police(wo)men are trying to do a good job...but distrust in governmentpolicies/rules is putting the police in an impossible position. I find it very sad to see my country ending up more and more violating basic human rights-both by police, tax office, gasexploration (in the north of NL gasexploration causing earthquake damage to houses with government failing to compensate in time), and the NL legal system unable to correct this in time. They did admit they failed several times.... |
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https://www.euronews.com/2021/12/06/french-pm-outlines-new-virus-measures-amid-spike-in-infections The bad news will come after Christmas....... Take care all 😷😉💉 |
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How is France doing so well? Are they just not reporting numbers correctly?!?! |
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[url]https://dutchreview.com/news/us-biochemist-criticizes-dutch-corona-policy/[/url] or https://dutchreview.com/news/us-biochemist-criticizes-dutch-corona-policy/ ; Jose-Luis Jimenez, a professor of chemistry and biochemistry at the University of Colorado and one of the most-cited scientists in his field, is hardly impressed by Dutch coronavirus measures. Like many vocal critics of coronavirus policy from within the scientific community, Jimenez, who specializes in aerosols, is deeply frustrated with basic — and frankly misleading — coronavirus regulations. In a series of tweets on Wednesday, he claimed that recommendations to wash your hands regularly, wear facemasks, and practice distancing can hardly prevent the spread of the virus without proper ventilation. Maybe he’s seen Rutte say “wash your hands” one too many times. Or perhaps he finds refuge in criticizing other nations’ mishandlings after two years of careless US leadership amidst the pandemic. Air quality is the single most important factorJimenez is far from alone in thinking this. TU Delft’s own building engineer Philomena Bluyssen also believes that greater action needs to be taken. Much of the Dutch health recommendations mirror that of the World Health Organization, but these “are the minimum,” she tells Nature. Bluyssen and other critics are not shy to point out the Dutch governments’ failure to provide comprehensive guidance and to allocate the necessary funding to ensure people’s safety in indoor spaces. So while the government relies on the avondklok to keep the COVID-19 bogeyman away, many scientists worry that significant portions of the population — from schoolchildren and students to office workers, restaurant-goers, and prisoners — remain extremely vulnerable in the absence of effective ventilation. Reaching boiling pointSome find Jimenez’s words are fueled by frustration, even though his opinion is in line with the scientific consensus. As Charifa Zemouri, a Dutch expert on infectious diseases and public health told RTL Nieuws: “What I sense with him, and what I sometimes catch myself similarly feeling, is frustration. Why can’t we just go along with the scientific consensus? Sometimes it drives you to use more severe language.” DJ [url]https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/vaccinaties[/url] or https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/vaccinaties NL 852,080 did get a booster vaccine in NL. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/12/14-of-passengers-from-south-africa-are-still-testing-positive-for-covid/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/12/14-of-passengers-from-south-africa-are-still-testing-positive-for-covid/ ; Some 14% of passengers arriving in the Netherlands from South Africa over the past five days have tested positive for coronavirus, regional health board GGD Kennemerland said on Friday. That is a rise on last week, when 9% of passengers tested positive in the voluntary checks at the airport, but it is too early to speak of a trend, the health board said. People travelling from South Africa to the Netherlands are required to show a negative PCR test before boarding and are ‘urgently recommended’ to have a second test at Schiphol. Around half of the arrivals on the two flights a day take advantage of this. The health board said it did not know if passengers had been vaccinated or if they were infected with the Omicron variant of the virus. It did say, however, that it will continue to operate the special test centre at Schiphol until Christmas at least. All arrivals from South Africa are supposed to go into quarantine on arriving in the Netherlands for at least five days, or longer if they test positive for the virus. Health minister Hugo de Jonge said last week that there would be proper checks to make sure people did stay at home. Anyone caught breaking quarantine after arriving from a very high-risk country faces a €339 fine. ‘Anyone who can go home can quarantine there safely,’ he said. ‘There will be phone calls and checks on the doorstep.’ DJ There are no checks on quarantine...because there is not enough staff...so we keep importing Omicron cases due to poor checking... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/12/limburg-rises-in-eu-infection-list-as-omicron-takes-hold-in-amsterdam/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/12/limburg-rises-in-eu-infection-list-as-omicron-takes-hold-in-amsterdam/ ; The Dutch province of Limburg continues to have more positive coronavirus tests per head of the population than virtually any other part of Europe, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. In the past two calendar weeks, two in 75 people in the province have had coronavirus, the ECDC said, which is a slight rise on the previous two weeks. With parts of Austria now reducing their infection rate, Limburg has climbed from 12th to sixth place in the ECDC ranking. In Europe as a whole, 132 regions are now ‘dark red’, compared with 119 last week. Only parts of Italy, Spain and Romania have a lower risk of catching coronavirus. Meanwhile, the health authorities in Amsterdam have now identified the Omicron variant in two people with no links to southern Africa, suggesting the new version is now spreading in the general population, the Parool reported. The two cases were identified in 200 samples taken from the city’s test centres for extra checks on Monday. Five cases were also identified on Tuesday and four on Wednesday, but contact tracing has not yet established if there is a South African link to them. DJ Due to decrease in testing a lot of (Omicron) cases will be missed. (It will be a long winter) De winter is nog lang. DJ My impression; more and more doubts on the legality of the (in)action by the NL "government"...[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/12/schiphol-airport-may-have-to-cut-flights-to-meet-environmental-rules-nos/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/12/schiphol-airport-may-have-to-cut-flights-to-meet-environmental-rules-nos/ ; The next cabinet may have to take drastic action to ensure the future of Schiphol airport because it does not meet rules on noise and nitrogen compound pollution, government legal advisors have told broadcaster NOS. Without far-reaching measures, the airport may have to cut the number of take-offs and landings by 20% to 400,000 a year, the broadcaster said. In order to keep the current number of aircraft movements, the government will have to buy out farmers working close to the airport and reduce the speed on nearby motorways to 80 kph to cut pollution in the vicinity, the sources said. DJ The NL government "forget" to update/renew all kinds of permits...allowing Amsterdam to increase flights...Corona did reduce the number to 250,000 per year...According to some legal experts that is the number allowed by the permits...Just "another mistake".... [url]https://www.regxsa.com/ml-tf-updates/dutch-bank-abn-amro-pays-577-60-e480-million-in-fines-for-serious-aml-cft-violations/[/url] or https://www.regxsa.com/ml-tf-updates/dutch-bank-abn-amro-pays-577-60-e480-million-in-fines-for-serious-aml-cft-violations/ [url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ing-groep-settlement-money-laundering-idUSKCN1LK0PE[/url] or https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ing-groep-settlement-money-laundering-idUSKCN1LK0PE DJ The two largest NL banks-getting billions in tax money because "to big to fail" turned out to be "criminal banks"...[url]https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/narco-state-netherlands-the-slippery-dutch-slope-from-drug-tolerance-to-drug-terror-a-4c064859-9faf-495f-b1f7-c74900910568[/url] or https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/narco-state-netherlands-the-slippery-dutch-slope-from-drug-tolerance-to-drug-terror-a-4c064859-9faf-495f-b1f7-c74900910568 [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/coalition-talks-continue-friday-rutte-iv-govt-agreement-nears[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/coalition-talks-continue-friday-rutte-iv-govt-agreement-nears DJ If we had new elections according to polls this government would not get enough seats/votes...(but other coalitions also would be difficult...). |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/excess-mortality-1250-deaths-expected-last-week[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/excess-mortality-1250-deaths-expected-last-week ; Approximately 4,300 people died from November 29 to December 5, about 1,250 more than expected, Statistics Netherlands estimates. The excess mortality occurred among people of all ages and just as much among people in long-term care facilities as among the rest of the population. In the same week, health institute RIVM counted 249 people who died of the coronavirus. The death rate has been higher than expected since the beginning of August. And from mid-October, the number of deaths has increased weekly. An estimated 2,550 people over the age of 80 died at the end of November and beginning of December, about 850 more than usual for this period. Among people aged 65 to 80, an estimated 1,300 died, about 350 more than expected. There were 475 deaths among the under-65s, over 50 more than usual for this time. Partly due to the coronavirus, many more people died during November than usual. The stats office reported about 3,500 more deaths than expected DJ [url]https://twitter.com/mzelst[/url] or https://twitter.com/mzelst ; Interpretatie: de geschatte coronasterfte van week 48 is tussen de 60-95% van de totale oversterfte. Ik vermoed dat op dit moment zo'n 15-40% van de oversterfte wordt veroorzaakt door het zorginfarct. translation ; Interpretation; the estimated coronadeaths week 48 is between 60-95% of total excess deaths. I presume at this moment around 15-40% of excess deaths is caused by collapse of care. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/trust-governments-covid-policy-lowest-point-ever[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/trust-governments-covid-policy-lowest-point-ever ; Confidence in the government's approach to the coronavirus is at its lowest point since the start of the pandemic, according to research by the RIVM and the GGD GHOR. Almost three-quarters (75 percent) of respondents believe that (far) too few measures have been taken to combat the coronavirus. There is also criticism from respondents about the slow start of the booster vaccinations. Only 16 percent are still optimistic about the government's approach, 46 percent are negative, and 39 percent are neutral. The study, conducted among over 46,000 people in the period from November 24 to 28, shows that compliance with the measures has increased. For example, people worked more at home, kept their distance, and got tested more often in case of symptoms. The percentage of research participants who got tested due to symptoms at a GGD or another test location went from 29 percent in the previous measurement round to 45 percent now. Another 32 percent said they did a self-test when they got symptoms. Never before have so many people gotten tested in case of symptoms, according to the RIVM. According to the researchers, people also visited catering establishments and other people less often. It was the 17th time this measurement was taken. The RIVM started this survey in the spring of 2020. DJ Another twitter; Het officiële aantal sterfgevallen voor week 48 is op dit moment 305. De DLM methode schat het aantal corona-overledenen voor week 48 op 1075 (95% betrouwbaarheidsinterval: 959-1245). De sterfte door corona tot nu toe is 37680 (95% betrouwbaarheidsinterval: 36606-38541). translation; The official number of deaths for week 48 at this moment is 305. The DLM (DJ ?) method estimates the number of corona-deaths for week 48 at 1075 (95% reliable-interval: 959-1245). Deaths due to corona so far is 37680 (95% reliable-interval: 36606 - 38541). DJ Worldometers NL CoViD deaths 19,842. [url]https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/sterfte[/url] or https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/sterfte NL-CDC 20,004 (dec 10) [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/omicron-cases-rising-lowest-number-new-covid-infections-since-nov-14[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/10/omicron-cases-rising-lowest-number-new-covid-infections-since-nov-14 ; Eighty people in the Netherlands have now been diagnosed with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus, the RIVM said on Friday. That rose from 36 on Tuesday. The variant is believed to be more contagious than the more common Delta variant, which is most prevalent in the Netherlands. It was first discovered in passengers who entered the country on two flights from South Africa, but was later identified in samples taken as far back as November 19. Out of the 80 people diagnosed with the Omicron variant, six people had no direct or indirect link to the Southern Africa region. Eighteen were on one of the flights from South Africa which landed on November 26. Another 53 had a travel history that included a country in the Southern Africa region. Three others had contact with someone who was infected with the variant. At the same time, the RIVM also announced the lowest number of daily coronavirus infections in 26 days. A total of 17,562 people tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus infection between Thursday and Friday morning, according to raw data from the organization. It was the fourth consecutive time the daily total was below 20,000. That brought the seven-day moving average down to 20,070, the lowest level in about three weeks. Including some corrections to the raw data, that average was closer to 20,030, a seven-percent drop in a week. Still, the percentage of people testing positive with the GGD continued to climb. During the period from December 2 - 8, an average of 23.5 percent of people tested by the health service received a positive diagnosis. That eclipsed a record average of 22.8 percent reported on Thursday. One possible explanation for the recent rise in positivity is that the government encouraged people to self-test before going to the GGD when the service was near its daily testing capacity. During the seven-day period, an average of 77,400 people were tested daily, down from a peak of 96,800 a week earlier. DJ Omicron cases rising also in NL. |
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[url]https://twitter.com/mzelst[/url] or https://twitter.com/mzelst ; Aantal testen bij de GGD is aan het 'crashen': afgelopen zaterdag werden er 70.738 mensen getest. Afgelopen zaterdag was het % positief een absoluut record: 26.5%. Laagste aantal testen sinds 7 november en houdt mogelijk verband met nieuw beleid rondom zelftesten. DJ Translation NL number of testing is crashing; last saturday 70,738 people did get tested. Last saterday the number of positive tests was an absolute record; 26,5%. Lowest number of tests since november 7 and possibly related with the policy of "self-testing"... See [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/02/take-self-test-early-covid-symptoms-dont-run-ggd-health-ministry[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/02/take-self-test-early-covid-symptoms-dont-run-ggd-health-ministry ; On Friday, the Health Ministry will change its guidelines to the public about what to do when early symptoms of the coronavirus infection arise. People with symptoms that suggest an infection of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus should first take a self-test to check whether they are infected. They do not have to remain home if the result is negative. With a positive result, they should stay home except to visit a local branch of the GGD municipal health service for a second test to confirm the initial result. Up until now, the advice was to always visit the GGD for a test if experiencing coronavirus-like symptoms. DJ So step 1 = lowering number of tests.... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/06/21000-coronavirus-infections-hospitalizations-may-reached-peak[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/06/21000-coronavirus-infections-hospitalizations-may-reached-peak ; The RIVM recorded another 21,053 positive coronavirus tests between Sunday and Monday morning. Even though over 20,000 more people tested positive for the SARS-Cov-2 coronavirus for the 20th time in 21 days, acute care leader Ernst Kuipers said on Monday he believes the peak number of daily Covid hospitalizations has been reached. The new infections brought the seven-day moving average down slightly for the first time in five days. The average, based on raw data alone, stood at 21,781. That was two percent lower compared to a week ago. A combination of raw and corrected data put the figure at 21,735. Roughly 20.7 percent of those tested by the GGD between November 28 and December 4 were given a positive diagnosis for the infection. That figure ticked up slightly with 26.5 percent of people having tested positive on Saturday just after the government asked that people use a self-test at the first sign of symptoms. They are then to call the GGD for an appointment when the test positive. About 92,800 were tested each of the seven days during that period, down from a peak of 96,800. Step 2 = claim "cases are going down"..."new normal" is average 92,800 tests per day giving average 21,781 positive outcomes = "succes".... Main reasons why less people get into the hospital is patients allready in hospital can not get (enough) care in time after some recovery..so they stay longer in hospital..."new hospitalcases are going down" !!!! Also increasing number of HCW-ers are getting ill (or get a better job-lower risk, better pay/hours...)... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/06/intensive-care-capacity-expanded-9-percent-today[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/06/intensive-care-capacity-expanded-9-percent-today ; Due to the increase in severe coronavirus cases, Dutch hospitals will increase the number of intensive care beds to 1,250 from Monday. Hospitals must provide those beds, so they must scale down other care. A spokesperson for the National Coordination Center for Patient Distribution (LCPS) called this "very painful" last week. The number of patients in the ICUs must always remain well below the maximum capacity. There must always be at least 188 beds available for emergency admissions. That number has not been achieved this past period. So far, hospitals have had a total of about 1,150 intensive care beds, sometimes more, sometimes less. Expanding the number of ICU beds to 1,250 means that caregivers will be taken away from other tasks. The Dutch Healthcare Authority (NZa) reported last week that one in three hospitals could no longer provide scheduled care at all. This includes things like knee and hip operations. Also, nearly a third of hospitals cannot consistently deliver critical scheduled care as planned. "This means that heart operations or cancer treatments are postponed once or sometimes several times. DJ; Increasing beds was not the point...HCW-ers taken from other departments may increase ICU-staff... |
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Yesterday I watched an interview with 2 nurses, one was an ICU nurse and the other was a travelling relief nurse. The ICU one was explaining what her job was and how she's trained to care for 2 patients at once and just how complicated and difficult that work is, and how if you increase her patient load by just one person, the death rate shoots up because of the complexitiy in caring for someone at that level of sickness. It was quite illuminating. She was saying how stressed they all are, how understaffed and how underpaid. The travelling nurse (this interview was in the US) said how she quit regular nursing to do relief nursing and she gets sent where ever she's needed and her pay is 10 times that of the other nurse!!!!!!! That's unbelievable. But as she said, who is going to stick at a low wage job when they can do exactly the same work for 10 times the money? They both agreed that this is the problem. Staff are leaving in droves because they are underpaid and under appreciated and expected to work for extended shifts to cover staff shortfalls, it's stressful and dangerous work with very little reward. Hospital managers are telling the nurses they can't afford to pay them any more and then, because of staffing shortages, they are employing these travelling nurses and paying them 10 times the amount. It's insulting the intelligence of the regular nurses. We are heading towards a third world situation where we have skeleton staffing in medical facilities if we don't start to value these nurses and pay them properly. Most nurses have nursing degrees and yet they are not getting graduate salaries. We reap what we sow. |
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DJ Code Black means ; Health Care Capacity is smaller then Health Care Demand leading to increase of Excess Deaths... HCC<HCD =ED+...[url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/excess-mortality-3500-extra-deaths-november[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/excess-mortality-3500-extra-deaths-november ; Partly due to the coronavirus, many more people died in November than usual. Statistics Netherlands counted about 3,500 more deaths than expected. The statisticians can only determine the cause of these deaths later. They do know that Covid-19 primarily caused increased deaths during previous coronavirus waves. In November, Statistics Netherlands recorded excess mortality every week. That means that many more people died than is normal for the time of year. The researchers estimated this based on death rates from previous years and demographic trends. There were particularly many deaths among people aged 65 and older. The death rate was highest last week, the last one in November. An estimated 4,100 people died, 1,100 more than expected. All the provinces saw more deaths than usual in the past month. Relatively speaking, excess mortality was highest in Limburg. Over 50 percent more people than usual died there. Zeeland, Noord-Brabant, and Gelderland also saw high increases in mortality rates. Excess mortality was lowest in Friesland. DJ; HCC/Heath Care Capacity will worsen further by HCW-ers decreasing further....Winter just started (meteo-winter per december 1) and Omicron is increasing ...so NL situation is getting worse high speed. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/30/testing-shows-omicron-coronavirus-variant-spreading-netherlands[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/30/testing-shows-omicron-coronavirus-variant-spreading-netherlands ; One person in the Netherlands who was determined to be infected with the Omicron variant of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus did not recently travel outside of the country. It is not yet clear how they acquired the infection, a spokesperson for the RIVM told Nu.nl. The new revelation was made just as the RIVM said the spread of the coronavirus was stabilizing after new infections hit a record high. "If that trend continues, we will now reach the peak. We are seeing positive signs," said Aura Timen, head of infectious disease control at the RIVM, in an interview with ANP. A total of 16 people in the country have been diagnosed with the variant, believed to be more contagious than the Delta variant which has been most prevalent in the Netherlands since the summer. Fourteen of those infected were on one of two KLM flights that landed at Schiphol on Friday. The other two infections were determined from samples submitted to a laboratory in Utrecht. One of those samples was collected on November 19. The other was four days later. It was not clear where the two people reside. The RIVM told Nu.nl that those two people do not have a direct connection to each other. One of them had traveled in a Southern Africa country before their coronavirus test. It was not revealed which countries that person visited. DJ Both testing and sequencing may be at limits....[url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/arnhem/alle-hens-aan-dek-in-ziekenhuis-rijnstate-zeggen-deze-specialisten-door-corona-wordt-het-nu-echt-kielekiele~a2e3dee7/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/arnhem/alle-hens-aan-dek-in-ziekenhuis-rijnstate-zeggen-deze-specialisten-door-corona-wordt-het-nu-echt-kielekiele~a2e3dee7/ (NL link-google translate does a great job) If a hospital is not yet in crisis that crisis may be just a patient away... [url]https://coronadashboard.government.nl/[/url] or https://coronadashboard.government.nl/ Info on NL situation...85,2% of 18+ fully vaccinated. |
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Dutch Josh
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Posted: December 03 2021 at 7:25am |
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DJ, [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/groningen-hospital-technically-code-black[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/groningen-hospital-technically-code-black ; The University Medical Center Groningen (UMCG) uses stricter criteria to decide whether someone will be admitted to intensive care, said Peter van der Voort, Senator and head of the ICU at the hospital, in talk show BEAU on Thursday. "A stricter selection on medical criteria is phase 3A. And from phase 3, it is code black. Technically you can say we are in it," he said. According to Van der Voort, the hospital does not have space for all the patients who need care. "You notice that the penny drops on 'not admitting to ICU' a little earlier," he said. "There are patients that you would normally give the benefit of the doubt and then say: We're going to try it. And now you're choosing not to try anymore." Van der Voort said that half of all Dutch ICU beds are occupied by Covid-19 patients. He criticized caretaker Health Minister Hugo de Jonge and Ernst Kuipers of the national acute care network LNAZ. "They say that we can still go to fifteen hundred beds and that until then, there is nothing to worry about. But that is not the practice; in practice, we are already stricter in selecting." and ;[url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/icu-nurse-shortage-will-problem-years-come[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/icu-nurse-shortage-will-problem-years-come ; The Netherlands faces a shortage of intensive care nurses, and that shortage will be a problem for years to come, NU.nl reports. Not enough people want to become ICU nurses. Hospitals are also at the limits of their training capacity, the newspaper found when talking to professional association V&VN, hospitals, and locking at figures from the Healthcare Training Board and Capacity Body. The intensive care capacity is primarily determined by the available staff. And the capacity is currently under severe pressure due to the coronavirus pandemic. Health Minister Hugo de Jonge asked hospitals to scale up to 1,250 ICU beds after the hospitals made clear that the government's target of 1,350 beds was unattainable, according to newspaper Trouw. The shortage of ICU nurses is partly because people are leaving the profession. But also because not enough ICU nurses were trained in the past years. Last year, 462 people started training to become ICU nurses in Dutch hospitals, about 300 too few, according to NU.nl. The same was true for the three prior years. According to V&VN, the main reason for not enough ICU nurses in training is that there are insufficient general nurses. ICU training comes on top of a general nursing qualification. "Too few students register for general nursing training," Rowan Marijnissen of the V&VN said to NU.nl. "And if you consider that everyone in healthcare, from mental healthcare to ICU, is desperate for people, then you get an idea of how difficult it is." An essential part of becoming an ICU nurse is practical training. And that is the second problem. Hospitals are at the limit of their practical training capacity. NU.nl spoke to six hospitals, and most of them said they are currently training the maximum number of ICU nurses they can handle. Hospitals made agreements to increase the number of ICU nurses in the coming years after the coronavirus pandemic made abundantly clear how devastating such a shortage can be. Whether they will succeed remains to be seen. DJ Staff is the main problem...not beds...Duration and HCW-ers getting infected/exhausted will further decrease staff. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/21600-positive-coronavirus-tests-reproduction-value-dips-100-hospital-total-falls[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/03/21600-positive-coronavirus-tests-reproduction-value-dips-100-hospital-total-falls DJ NL-CDC numbers based on lots of people not getting tested...so not reflecting reality... [url] |
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Posted: November 29 2021 at 1:38pm |
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Mind boggling that we (the world in general) are still SO bad at this. |
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[url]https://twitter.com/drericding[/url] or https://twitter.com/drericding ; Hundreds of - ) Confirmed by also NYT reporter who was there. All crammed in unventilated room without mask compliance. What a mess - These passengers waited 6 hours on the tarmac and then 10 hours for their test results - all while many gave up on masks. And they they were all released no quarantine. I’m going to say this was a complete screw up of Netherlands DJ Good description of the NL approach...nobody has any idea of who is responsible, who has to do what...when... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/29/delay-arresting-quarantine-breakers-due-lack-legal-ground-mayor-says[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/29/delay-arresting-quarantine-breakers-due-lack-legal-ground-mayor-says ; The reason a couple who tested positive for Covid and escaped the quarantine hotel was only arrested once they were sitting on a plane about to take off was a lack of legal ground to detain them before that. "We really did not expect that people would flee," Mayor Marianne Schuurmans of Haarlemmermeer said to Goedemorgen Nederland. The couple had landed at Schiphol from South Africa on Friday. They tested positive for Covid-19 and were taken to a hotel in Badhoevedorp to quarantine. They fled the hotel and wanted to catch a plane to Spain. The Koninklijke Marechaussee, a policing force that works as part of the Dutch military, arrested them on that plane on Sunday. "There is security at the hotel, but people stay there completely voluntarily," Schuurmans said on the radio program. "Security guards advised the couple not to leave, but there was no legal ground to hold them yet. As mayor and chairman of the Security Region, I still had to arrange that at the time. We really did not expect that people would flee." DJ Even now people coming from South Africa (it only stopped in words...) do not have to take a PCR-test...it is voluntary...Also the 5,000+ passengers that came from the SA region last week are "asked if they please would like to take a test"...so far 400 did so... |
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Sorry to see the mess happening in NL ..... We had news that our state Western Australia,will be opening up in January..... can't see that happening..... Don't want it to happen...... Quite comfortable here, summer coming..... getting warm now 33c today lovely.... Take care all 😷😉💉 |
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"Black Friday"...[url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/25/covid-measures-cabinet-leaning-towards-5-pm-closing-times-decision-yet[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/25/covid-measures-cabinet-leaning-towards-5-pm-closing-times-decision-yet and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/25/limburg-biggest-covid-hotspot-western-europe[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/25/limburg-biggest-covid-hotspot-western-europe DJ-In my words most likely NL government is taking two steps; -Further limiting opening hours for shops, restaurants cinema's etc. -Increasing booster vaccinations... What they are NOT doing is closing schools...while most cases in NL have links to schools...children getting infected and infecting parents/family members...with in the short term NO vaccines for children under 12... Also the idea that vaccinated people only play a limited role in the spread of the virus (against what I understand is the WHO vision...). Also hardly serious limits on travel... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/25/22200-covid-infections-average-falls-first-time-8-weeks[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/25/22200-covid-infections-average-falls-first-time-8-weeks The main reason "average is going down" may be overstretching testing capacity... One of the twitter NL experts was talking of "confabulation by the NL government"...my words, NL government living in a fantasy....With hospitals in "phase 2D" one step from "code black/phase 3" hospital capacity is close to collapse...with staff being the major problem. We may soon see 100+ deaths per day in NL... |
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Posted: November 25 2021 at 1:15am |
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Thanks Charles, keep safe & sane in the US as well...happy thanksgiving...do not make it a spread-event ! US is following Europe...with less vaccine protection often...outlook for both/worldwide/this pandemic is getting worse by the hour... |
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