Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
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Angel
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 5:16pm |
www.forbes.com
has a good article about their finding four different variations
which means they will need to have multiple different vaccines.
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libbyalex
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Angel -- what section is it in and what's the title? I looked and couldn't find it. -- Libby
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Nick&Elisa
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Thanks, this is another example of how difficult it will be to protect ourselves against this with out the international corporation of Governments, WHO and CDC.
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Im new here but Ive been watching the H5N1 situation since 2004 (I guess, time flies)
Ive found 3 articles about this latest study so far, all of them seem to focus on different aspects: http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2006/02/ 06/hscout530766.html http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060206 /avian_flu_study_060206/20060206?hub=Health http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8686 |
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Well, guys, remember we were pretty sure this was going to be an issue. Although ONE should come out on top and be the dominate strain, there is a chance that we could have multiple strains circulating at the same time. Luvly thought, that.
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Dr Niman has been on this trail for quite some time now:
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05180507/H5N1_Recombine_Va ccine.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12240501/H5N1_Evolution_Eu rope_Asia.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01050604/H5N1_Kurgan_Recom binant.html What a brilliant, brilliant, man you are my friend. Wow, this world is starting to feel like we are living in the middle of a sci-fi-horror novel with Government cover-ups/conspiratorial plans, death and dying, clever mad scientists (no offense, Henry) and plot twists around every corner. What next?... dare I ask. At the rate of recombination and evolution, there will be no stopping the many H5N1 variants. There aren't enough scientists in the world to work on dozens and dozens of vaccines that will eventually be needed. Sorry to sound overly-dramatic, but it's like Mother Nature ensuring destruction of this zero sum game. Lovely. Now I really need another drink... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~ Researchers Uncover 4 Different Genetic Bird-Flu Strains By Steven Reinberg HealthDay Reporter Mon Feb 6, 5:03 PM ET MONDAY, Feb. 6 (HealthDay News) -- Researchers have identified several different genetic strains of the avian flu virus, H5N1, in different bird populations in Southeast Asia -- any one of which could trigger a pandemic. ADVERTISEMENT The finding has implications for preparations against a possible pandemic and the vaccines that may be needed to ward off human infection, experts say. One key recommendation: Better surveillance of bird populations to make sure one of the H5N1 variants doesn't begin to spread more easily between people. "There are multiple different lineages of H5N1 emerging in the world," said lead researcher Robert Webster, a professor of virology at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, in Memphis, Tenn., and a member of the Department of Microbiology at the University of Hong Kong. "There are about four different families of viruses out there now." His team's report appears in this week's edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The threat of a mutant strain of deadly H5N1 that could pass easily from person-to-person has raised fears of a worldwide pandemic. Since January 2004, at least 152 laboratory-confirmed cases of bird-to-human infection have been reported to the World Health Organization, and 85 people have died from the disease. So far, however, the virus appears to lack the ability to jump easily from human to human, experts say. In the study, Webster's team found that the H5N1 virus exists frequently in domesticated poultry populations and also in wild birds before they migrate. Using genetic analysis, the researchers found four distinct sub-lineages of the virus existing in birds from different geographical areas. While H5N1 can be transmitted over long distances in migratory birds, in Southeast Asia infected poultry appears to be the main way H5N1 is spread, Webster's team noted. "These viruses can be out there in apparently healthy birds all the time," Webster said. "These viruses are not killing all the chickens [that carry them], so they are out there," he added. The spread of myriad genetic types of H5N1 highlights the need for a variety of vaccines, Webster said. "Multiple, different vaccines are going to have to be prepared and held ready in case one of these goes human-to-human," he said. "It will be necessary to have vaccines to each one of them." Based on evidence from the bird-to-human cases recorded so far, "there is human infection in all the types," he added. Webster believes that more genetic types of the virus will develop. "Whether one of these will become pandemic, God only knows," he said. "It looks as if it could be. So it behooves us to get our ducks in a row and be prepared. It's scary." One expert thinks the variety of virus types is a good argument for overhauling America's vaccine production system. "There is a lot of genetic variability in H5N1," noted Dr. Marc Siegel, a clinical associate professor of medicine at New York University School of Medicine, and author of Bird Flu: Everything You Need to Know About the Next Pandemic. "This is not surprising." Siegel believes the ability of the virus to change should be a major concern for vaccine developers. "It's another wake-up call that we need a vaccine system where we can turn it around quickly," he said. "We don't need nine-month lead times. We have the technology to make vaccines quickly." H5N1 may still not become pandemic, Siegel stressed. "That's a speculation whether it's going to be H5N1 or something else," he said. "Eventually, there is going to be another pandemic." The key point about H5N1 is that it is a deadly virus to which people have no immunity, Siegel said. "That's a good reason to be concerned and keep tracking it," he said. "The knowledge that there are more subtypes out there is a very good reason to update how we make vaccines." He added that the first priority should be to control the virus in birds. "There should be more vaccination of birds," he said. "We need a rational approach to this. A rational approach means a greater attempt to control it in birds -- put the fire out rather than build the firewall." http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060206/hl_hsn/researchersuncov er4differentgeneticbirdflustrains |
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Uncontrolled bird flu in China has seeded outbreaks in
Vietnam and beyond: study TORONTO (CP) - "Genetic analysis of H5N1 avian flu viruses collected from wild and domestic birds in China suggests the virus has spread in uncontrolled fashion in southern China for the past decade, igniting outbreaks in Vietnam on at least three occasions and triggering spread of the worrisome virus across Russia to eastern Europe, a study released Monday suggests. The study also provides what could be a smoking gun in the heated dispute about whether migratory birds are actually playing a role in moving the virus across the globe. A number of wildlife experts have insisted migratory birds are not to blame, but this study contends genetic analysis shows there can be no other explanation." |
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Rick, It seems that your latest post was glossed right over by most everyone here. This article was the most damning that I have seen yet. Through Party Doctrine (lie, lie, lie and kill those who won't line up), the Communists have ensured the survival and evolution of next Black Plague. God save us all. |
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God will not save us, the brain he gave us will. Edited by Rick |
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