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    Posted: October 03 2006 at 8:32am
Im on my third canning book and every book is different.
 
Raw Pack say to put meat in sterile jars.  Put lids in boiling water.
 
Cook at 70 mins in a regular pot at 170 degrees then put in pressure cooker for 75 min at 10 lbs quarts or 90 mins 10 lbs that 145 mins of cooking...
 
But here my confusion they say to only put 2 inches of water in pressure cooker...another books says to cover jar 2 inches above the jars
 
Im so confused.
 
I have chicken that can be canned...I intend on cooking the chicken as someone told me that chicken raw packed taste like tuna.
 
I have ribs I boiled....
 
I have raw hamberger  meat...
 
Can you please help me with simple directions....
 
 
So Im look to do cooked chicken
 
Raw everything else...Beef tips hamberger, shredded pork and regular..
 
 
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Hey, Happy camper, let's see if I can help. I have put up chicken, corn beef, roast, hamburger meat, hamburge in spaghetti sauce, and round steak in marinara sauce. First off I personally do not can any meat raw, a personal choice, I feel safer and then I know for a fact that my meat will be done when processed.  Hamburger: cook and drain off all grease or as much as you possibly can in collander rinsed down with hot water. I use either beef boullion or chicken boullion for all of my liquids in processing meats, except for spaghetti sauce and marinara sauce. All ingrediants must be hot, place your hamburger in qts jars, filling up with meat a little over 1/2 way, then filling up rest of jar with beef boullion mix, leaving a 1/2 inch header (this allows meat and water to bubble up without spilling over into you canner). Always take your canning lids and have them in boiling hot water, lifiting them out one at a time as you can and seal on top of your can. I use wide-mouth jars, just easier to get meat into jar, but regular can be used also. Place into your canner with a little water in the bottom of your canner, it helps to pressurize by steam, and secure your lid. Now, I leave of the black rattle thingy (forgot what it is called) until I see steam coming out of that vent, then I place it on (usally less than 5-6 min) stand there and watch your canner till the lock valve pops up (THIS IS IMPORTANT), because when that vent pops up and locks, that is when you start your 90 min. count, not before, you have to keep your canner for meat at a constant 10psi for 90 min, if you don't your meat will not can and you could possibly get bochillisim(?) is that the correct spelling, anyway, after 90 min of this, there maybe time you have to take your canner off of the heat (especially if you have an electric stove) pull over to side, let the pressure go back down to 10 and lower your temp, if you have a gas stove, much easier, just lower your flame. When 90 min. are done, remove your canner to back burner, do not take off of stove, very hot and very heavy., and let the pressure decline to 0, do not remove any parts until it is at 0, then remove black thingy, see if any steam is released, if some wait, if none, release top of canner lid and leave your cans in there to adjust to room temp. Remove with canner tongs and set on table with a towel, these will be VERY HOT, let cool for 1-2 hours you will hear the pop almost immediately, then tighten lids and you have canned hamburger. All of your other meat is almost exactly the same directions, same amount of time, same PSI, just use chicken boullion for chicken, pork ribs I would use bbq sauce, the corn beef I used the water that I had originally cooked it in the crockpot the night before. I have never covered my jars, not really sure what the reason would be for doing that, you just need a little water (2inches at the most) to provide the steam in the pressure cooker, hopt that this helps and post if you need any moer infor.
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Goodness, Forgive me for all of the typo errors, hope you can read my thought and intentions.

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go to your book store and get a Ball canning book. I do alot of canning as well and all the books I read say to have the water level above the jars as well.  If you pre cook the meats the way that you like them before canning they will be more like leftovers then canned meat. burger can be done as meat balls and canned in gravey and so on. If you can buy it you can make it. don't settle for boring survival rations if you can do better.
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Frankview was submitting at same time with better advice, sorry to confuse.
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Frankview thank you so much for taking the time and patience to carefully give me directions...There are plenty of meats I will be cooking to put into jars.  Ribs  Shreaded pork and others..
 
 
 
I still looking for easy direction on raw packing...Thanks for all the help...I really do appreciate it...
 
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Hey There,
 
I raise chickens and goats currently.  I have canned every kind of meat I can think of including moose and deer.  I have put up TONS of meat.  First thing I would do is go to your local book store and buy a Backwoods Home magazine.  No I don't work for them, but the ask Jackie section of the magazine is incredible.  She live out in the boondocks and raises all of her own food.  I have gotten advice on putting up everything from her column.  If you go to their website, you can order back issues or even an entire book on Ask Jackie.
That being said:  It is a good idea to hot pack certain meats and cold pack others.  I hot pack most everything except chicken.  Chicken can turn out stringy and tough if you hot pack it.  To hot pack, make sure you have a pressure canner.  I have 3 All American Canners that have a bolt fastening system.  You will want to heat your canning jars, have your seals and rings ready and have the water in the canner all at near boiling temperature.  Have the meat cut into bite sized pieces cooking in a broth.  Fill the jar with meat tightly and pour the broth up until about an inch from the top.  wipe the top with a wet cloth and seal.  Process usually is 70 minutes for meat. 
Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by Ynot2k Ynot2k wrote:

Hey There,
 
I Have the meat cut into bite sized pieces cooking in a broth.  Fill the jar with meat tightly and pour the broth up until about an inch from the top.  wipe the top with a wet cloth and seal.  Process usually is 70 minutes for meat. 
Hope this helps.
 
Have the meat cut into bite sized pieces cooking in a broth...Question How long in the broth...
 
Do you have quick instruction say for just chicken...How do I cook it?
How long.  Then Im doing quart jars.  Do I fill the canner with 2 inches or fill the canner 2 inches about the jars.
 
One methods says to steam the jars the other boil...
 
 
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What I would do is to cook the meat in water or water with some broth added.  I will often boil bones along with vegetable scraps and strain to freeze broth or you can just get some broth from Aldi or another grocery store.  Make sure you have a little salt in for flavor.  The best way is to brown it in oil and then add the broth/water and cook a little bit longer for chicken and cook thoroughly for other meat.  I have found that beef and other red meat will swell and pop lids if not cooked thoroughly.  Then make sure you use a pressure canner.  If you have a canning book that tells you to waterbath or to steam the canning jars, throw it out!!!  I am not being funny.  I know that you will find all kinds of places that tell you you can can in the oven, or can 27 different ways, but the only safe way to can low acid food like meat or mixed things is with a pressure canner.  I found an awesome one at Goodwill for 29$. 
To can,  make sure you clean off the rim and set the lid and ring on.  Make sure you allow 1" head space.   Can for 70 minutes at 10 pounds pressure.  I would look up the exact amount on line.  I never stack my jars in the canner, instead, I fill water slightly below the top of the jar. 
 
 
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Ynot2K, quick question please. Why do you put water up to almost top of jar ? When Happycamper ask  me about that I honestly had never heard of it. All that I had read stated to put some in the bottom of the canner to provide the steam necessary to pressurize the canner. Lord, I hope I have been doing it right, because I have almost 3 cases of meat already processed and canned, and it would really be ##### if I have done all of it wrong. Please explain and thanks.
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Thank you all so much for taking the time to help...I know as soon as I get started my fears after canning a few times will dissipate.
 
There are plenty of times I cooked extra meat...Chicken Ribs Turkey...Can I freeze the leftover cooked meat?
 
Have you ever cooked different meats at the same time..Say chicken pork and  beef tips?
 
When my freezer goes down I will have extra jars for canning that meat before it goes bad...This is going to be a great help to us...Thanks so much.
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Hi There,
 
If you look at foods that are purchased canned at the grocery store, they always have some sort of liquid in them.  You will need to do the same thing with your home canned items.  If you have messed up a batch by not adding liquid, you probably will want to redo them and add some broth.  As I have mentioned before, go to the Ask Jackie column of Backwoods Home Magazine.  Even though I have canned for eons, I still learn a ton from that woman.  I think she cans because she raises almost all of her own food.  She has a wealth of knowledge about things that I have never even thought about canning (she had a forum on cannng sweet breads once!!)
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You folks are mixing up info on water depths.
 
For water bath canning you always have the water level in the pot above the jars by an inch or so.  This ensures all the contents ( interior and exterior to the jars ) get sterilized.
 
For pressure canning, you only need an inch or two of water in the bottom as the temperatures internally are much higher due to the pressure, and everything inside is sterilized no matter what.  Too much water in a pressure canner just increases the time it takes to get up to temp - and probably throws off the results - i.e. the food "cooks" too long in the jars.  Too little water is much worse though - if it runs out of water internally the pressure probably falls off before the cycle is done and everything inside will spew out from the jars - it can buckle the lids right off the tops of the jars if the rings are too tight.
 
A couple more pointers -
 
make sure the glass rim where the lid seats is absolutely clean before putting on the lid.
 
Remove the metal bands after the jars have cooled,  You want the vacuum in the jar and the integrity of the seal to determine that it remains sealed - not the metal band.
 
After they are all cooled and the lids "pop" down, check how tight the lids are by "ringing" them with a spoon - take a teaspoon lightly held at the end of the handle and drop it down on the lid - if it "rings" ( think of playing a xylophone... ) the lid is tightly down - if it drops with a dull thud the lid may be sealed, but not as tight as you'd like - put that jar to use right away and do not store.
 
Along with the above comment - when it is time to open the jar, make sure it is done by someone competent.  The act of opening a self-canned jar is the LAST chance you have to know it is still safe to use.  Only my wife or I are allowed to take the lids off ( never the kids ) and always by hand ( just push the edge up with your thumbs to pop loose ).  If the jar is still sealed well at that time you will know it by the way it pops loose ( it makes a slight sucking sound too if you listen).  If it comes off too easy it may have lost it's seal and could be dangerous.
 
 
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THANKS, 700renegade, I thought that I had it correctly. I almost freaked out thinking that I had canned all of that meat incorrectly.  Of course ALWAYS make sure your jars are hot and clean, so very important. Tomorrow I am going to can for the first time conechu sausage, got it for $2.99 for a 1 lb. pkg (GREAT with red beans and rice)a southern dish. That way a meal we eat all the time anyway, will be ready in just a little bit.
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Happy Camper, Absolutely yes!  I've recently started doing this myself.  I'm hoping it will save time and fuel when need be.  Also, once I feel I have enough, I'm definitely avoiding the supermarkets at all costs--even before it hits if possible.  Yesterday I slow cooked 6 large slabs of baby back ribs I got on sale in a covered roaster at 350 degrees.  You know when it they're done when the wonderful aroma fills your house & the meat shrinks away from the bones (melt in your mouth).  Then I cool them and pack them with my vacuum sealer and freeze.  When I'm ready, I defrost them, dress them with Baby Rays barbeque sauce & throw them on the fire just to bake the sauce in a bit and heat.  Take them off, drizzle them with maple syrup and you're in heaven!! SOO GOOD!!!  I also precook (steam) chicken breasts so I can make chicken salad in a pinch.  Do the same with chops, sausages, etc.   I've also been precooking hamburgers and will see if I can heat them up in the vacuum sealed bags by boiling them.  I'll definitely have to learn how to can though...so afraid of killing my family, though...sounds kinda complicated for my little brain!!  Hope this helps  Pamie

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Sorry, guys.   Correction--Slow cook the ribs at 325 degrees.  Also making meatballs ahead of time & vacuum sealing them.  Let you know how that one works out...Pamie
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I was wondering if anyone has a tested way of testing your canned meats when your ready to use them. If so with all of the experimenting going on and new kids on the block trying this it would be very helpful. thanks

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