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 Topic: Prepping on a Shoe String...Posted: October 05 2006 at 11:34am |
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All that come here...
please leave your wonderful ideas for preparing for BF
with very little money. Many have young families/elderly/single parents etc. and little to spare for extras.
Thanks...
There are good buys at dollar stores, get something each pay check and store it in a closet or under a bed or in a dry cool area.
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Posted: October 05 2006 at 12:50pm |
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Anharra!!! What a GREAT IDEA!! THANKS!! Being a new prepper, I've got ALOT of catchup to do so cutting corners wherever we can will be paramount in our situation. One idea might be to store some baby powder as a substitute for shampoo. It's cheaper and if you run out of shampoo or can't buy enough to get through the wave(s), it can be a substitute in between regular daily washings and will also save some of that precious water. Another idea is to save the supermarket styrofoam packages veggies/fruits come in, wash them and use them as needed when the time comes (they're good for feeding your pets too!) Thanks!
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 12:40pm |
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Check out the clearance shelves of places like Wal-Mart, Target, or K-Mart, discount drug stores like Walgreens and even the local grocery store. It is hit or miss but I've found many drastic bargains on soups, OTC medicines and even hair color being sold simply because of overstock or repackaging. Expiration dates have been 2 years away on the soups & meds. Not to mention the 1 dollar bins most fo these places now have.
In the northeast, temperatures are dropping and so will the prices on many camping & picnic supplies as room is made for winter & holiday items. A neighbor suggested getting a few extra pair of swim goggles for eye protection venturing out among others if TSHTF.
Save those aluminum pie plates and take-out containers - they are great to use as in-a-pinch bowls/plates and are great for heating things on the grill. They also are great as a base for candles when the power is out because they reflect a bit more light. Or save them as a potential heat reflector for solar cooking.
Sift some kitchen cornstarch and use it as baby powder (a lot cheaper than J &J). Mix with a bit of baking soda and use as a deodorant (NOT antiperspirant). Use plain baking soda to brush your teeth or clean your counters.
Save your plastic grocery bags to use as trash bags. Or reuse them at the store (I double bag for this to be sure they will hold up to the weight). Find a sale on baby wipes (I prefer the unscented store brands) to use for water- free wash cloths that are gentle on your skin.
Watch for yard sales or trash days for folks getting rid of walkers, canes or other items that could be used in a sick room situation. Be sure they are in good working order (not obviously broken,cracked or bent) and clean with bleach or Lysol before using them.
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 1:15pm |
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I went to Costco and picked up 2 packs of 100 each of 1 gallon Ziplock freezer bags I intend to use them to store water in my basement. If you want to go that route don't forget to use cardboard and a tarp to protect them from the concrete floor.
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 4:14pm |
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anon what a good idea, saving empty milk jugs takes up so much space. Someone else posted using wax paper instead of paper plates= less trash but I was thinking less room for storage also, not sure if it would be cheaper than paper plates. What good ideas I get from this site !
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 5:44pm |
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HoosierMom:I just reread the water thread.I forgot to mention to keep those bags cool and dark!!Alge can grow if your water isn't protected.
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Posted: October 10 2006 at 5:24pm |
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watch for sales and try to match with coupons. You can get items very cheap or free. When an item is on sale for the best price stock up on that item. |
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Here's my money saving and prep stretching tip: When I get a new bottle of dish detergent I take a wooden match and break off a piece about a quarter inch long and stick it in the opening of the bottle. When you squeeze the bottle you get enough detergent to use but not that huge stream that normally comes out. It makes it last so much longer!!
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Posted: October 14 2006 at 10:40pm |
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Consider
food value and cost:
Do
you really have to have sliced white chicken breast or can you handle eating
dark meat which has for more food value and is cheaper? Are you throwing away the fat –the healing
power- in chicken? Do you desire Pink Salmon so much that you will sacrifice
getting twice the food for less money in Jack Mackerel and having one for now
and one for latter? Need to keep the hemoglobin up? Try having some liver
ground and mix it in with ground beef.
Good
luck.
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 8:09am |
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More food for thought...
why buy coffee filters to strain water with when
old table napkins or any clean cloth will do and it can be used over and
over?
Why don't we use the clean but worn cotton sheets
or pillow cases by cutting them in strips, rolling the strips up and canning
them in the pressure cooker? This enables us to have ample sterile bandage when
needed.
I'll bet there are a ton of other ideas out there
will enable people to put their money to best use.
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Posted: October 22 2006 at 5:51pm |
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this sounds interesting!
... my idea would be to stock up on the breads, soups, beans, broth, seasonings, flour, yeast/baking powder, honey/sugar, salt, dry milk, dry cheese, cooking oil ...
you can live off of breads and soups, biscuits & gravies, to add to this buy canned meats ... peanut butter & jam ...
As for fresh veggies & to save on $ would be to grow your own on an indoor patio or your window sill ... consider a small make-shift greenhouse (clear plastics) where you could grow lettuce, spinach, possibly a tomato plant, herbs, etc.
If you can find the seeds ~ learn to sprout! If you have wheat ~ it can be sprouted ... so can some beans. It just takes alittle bit of reading and research ... but it can be done.
What about all that paper stuff ... that's a hard one ... eventually we have to go back to dishes, dishwater, dishtowels, handtowels, laundry and such after the paper products are all gone ~ so, we'll probably need to get extra cotton fabrics to make cloth napkins ...
What about medical needs ... I think it's good to learn basic herbal needs ... a salve for cuts & bruises, what's good for headaches, I personally like the post where old sheets can be recycled into sterile bandages!
I guess everything we use on a daily basis we take for granted. But unlike those who grew up during the "depression" era and there abouts, they saved and made do with and/or without. We just have to learn to look at things differently ... can this be reused somehow, or recycled ... or dump it!
let's hear more ideas ...
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Think about starting a co-op. For example, my neighbors and I have started a produce co-op. (Not very worthwhile during a pandemic, but helpful now). We have 24 of us who each spend $15 every two weeks and then buy our produce directly from a produce wholesaler. We get about 3x as much produce as we could buy for the same amount at the grocery store AND it's much fresher. Last week, for $15 we got one head of lettuce, one bunch of celery, one bunch of broccoli, one head of cauliflower, 10 russet potatoes, one bag of baby carrots, one and a half bunches of bananas, 10 Gala apples, 10 plums, 1 bag of grapes, 1 cantaloupe.
You could do the same with produce and use saved money to buy preps OR buy prep items in bulk and either co-op with neighbors or other preppers or buy for you own use.
Our wholesaler required an minimum order of $180 but at $360, they'll deliver. Check around and see what wholesalers in your area require.
In the yellow pages, look under headings such as Food Brokers, Food—Dehydrated, Food Service Distributors, Grocery—Wholesale, Grain Dealers, etc. OR buy direct from the processors by checking the labels of products that you want to purchase and contacting them directly.
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Hi slcmom ... ya got any more new recipes to share?
That sounds like a good idea ... most of my neighbors are kinda snooty, so maybe I could try "family" ~ rounding up 24 might be quite a chore, but I think it might be worth the try.
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We could do it with as few as 12 participants. My family eats a lot of produce, so I actually get a double order, so some people may be interested in that. If we don't eat everything, I give the little bit left to someone else, but the produce is so fresh that everything (except bananas) has been lasting up to a month in the fridge. My sister-in-law said they did a similar thing but had a grocery co-op when she was living in Kentucky, so I know it's possible, in different variations, in different areas of the country. I've saved a bunch.And on the recipes... yes... anything particular you're interested in? Breads? Main dishes? Soups? Sides? Treats? Anything using any certain kind of ingredients?
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slc mom , see ya been putting recipes out here and there ... a while back you said you could make a lot of meals with ... was it 30 ingredients you had in food storage ... or something like that ... well, I was just wondering about what foods they were and the recipes for those ...
been a busy, stressing week so sorry to get back alittle late on this ...
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Anybody can prepare. It may take longer than others, but it can be done. If you buy 1 extra meal (for your family) a week, that is 52 meals after a year. 50 lbs of beans at Sam's is under $20.00. 50 lbs of rice is cheaper.
I believe in storing what you eat, eat what you store. It may be slow going, but if you put your mind to it, it can be done.
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To prep on the cheap I would start with rice and beans If you had beans and rice for a year at least you would be alive.
then layer your preps with canned fruit and vegetables, flour coaco sugar yeast coffee( tea is cheaper) dried milk
or dried fruit and vegetables(.made my yourself )
then canned foods. spices .
The basic and lots of them . I have had all my crackers go stale and some of my pancake mixes and cake mixes get bugs in them . So I am now reliing on rice and it ability to be hardy and stable. In third world countries I beleive they have a high protein rice but I think rice and a variety of beans canned or dried.
Rice and beans can be stored creativly so they can be theft proof. Hidden in anywhere. In walls in cushions in old tv sets , because they can be put in bags to be hidden .
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The LDS church's recommendation for the basic foods for one month. This is definitely nothing fancy, just what it would take to survive. Wheat is used as the primary food based on price, shelf-life, and nutritional value. Rice is the second food. Your body needs some fats for proper brain function (and cooking) so don't forget that AND salt as part of basic food storage.
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Linda -ann, please read over the storage thread on preps. there are many good suggestions, such as freezing the flour,Bisquick, to kill the bugs, then storing in an air tight container with a bay leaf. some say buy the crackers that come in a tin can, try the Spanish section in the store. I rotate and use the flour and crackers, and over the summer the crackers i didn't use went stale, I used them in meatloaves, taste great to me, but maybe not to you.you might want to try it. Air tight containers can get expensive.I use the plastic folgers coffee cans, large plastic bird seed containers that have a screw on lid, ,and at home depot they sell for about 7$ paint buckets with lids, lg glass pickle jars .I go to thrift shops, tag sales for glass and plastic containers. all of which i clean throughly, with bleach.I buy what we will eat,and rotate it. all brought on sale, and what can be made with a little water ,or in a can ready to be eat. I do have beans and rice,but I think that will become very boring in the short term, and will add them as a filler to increase the volume of a can of soup, stew. hope this helps, everybody has their own way of preping, roxy |
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I would try to look for a Menonite or Amish bulk food store. You will get more for your $ but the foods are whole foods and you will need to learn how to use them, if you don't cook often from scratch.
If you are interested I have many basic recipes I have collected over the years. All use ingrediants that you have in your pantry and are cheep. It takes a little more work and thought to make meals but you can feed a family of 5 on very little money, and healthier foods at that.
Another good way to finds things cheep or free is freecycle.org and craigslist.org
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Refer to a great site: Hillbilly Housewife.com
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I know I will run out of "meat" ... tuna, sardines, canned chicken, frozen turkey.... that's all I have, and 4 lbs of frozen cheese. I need advice on dinners ...or what other meat is there, can't eat beef, pork...? I also have some canned shrimp. Is anyone buying tofu? oh... I did buy TVP.
What will you do when you run out of meat?
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Cook more beans. |
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I tried this and it worked out fairly well:
I bought 10 14.5 oz cans of collard greens, mustard greens, and mixed greens for .42 cents each. I also bought one of those six packs of Raman noodles for $1.00. Put about 1 tbs of olive oil in a pot, add garlic if you wish, and simmer for a minute, then add one can of the greens liquid and all, then simmer for a few more minutes or as instructed on the can. Add one more cup of water, bring to a boil then add one package of the Raman noodles. Simmer for another minute or two. The noodles won't add a whole lot of nutrition but the greens will. It is also tasty and filling. So, for about $6 I got almost 12 meals. Thats $.50 a meal. It should not be a primary meal but will work when things get desperate, and they store well. I suggest you try it first. I am experimenting with other things as well. |
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Prepping other than food on a budget.
Here is how I got alot of preps.
Thrift stores: kerosene lanterns for $1.
Lots of camping supplies very cheap. I found coleman heaters and cook stoves less than five bucks. Thermos bottles and carafes. They keep drinks hot for a long time saving energy.
Yard sales: Everything you would need even generators for $50.
Get togher with family members or close like=minded friends and get a membership to Costco or Sams. Buy in bulk and share.
Grow a garden. Keep costs down and you get the satifaction of doing it yourself. Also found a dehydrator for $3 at a yard sale.
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Hi,
I have little money to prep so what I have been doing is playing this online game. You win points and can redeem them for giftcards from Walmart, Target, Home depot Best Buy ect. I use the gift cards for prep items. I usually get the Walmart card you can use them at Sam's Club for bulk items! Here is a link- http://www.netwinner.com/?signupCode=lskelly825 Try it is is fun and I have already received 3 gift cards! |
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Do you know about gold fever and Klondike?
Well in 1899-1900 it was mandatory to have this amount of food if you wanted to enter Klondike list of groceries required for one man for 1 year 400 lb flour 50 lb cornmeal 50 lb oatmeal 35 lb rice 100 lb beans 100 lb sugar 200 lb bacon 15 lb salt 8 lb baking powder 2 lb soda 1 lb pepper 1/4 lb ginger 1/2 lb mustard 36 yeast cakes 25 lb evaporated apples 25 lb evaporated peaches 25 lb apricots 10 lb pitted plums 25 lb fish 50 lb evaporated potatoes 50 lb evaporated onions 25 lb coffee 5 lb tea 15 lb soup vegetables 40 lb candles 60 boxes matches 5 bars laundry soap 25 cans butter 4 dozen tin condensed milk |
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Jane, this is so interesting. 200 lbs of bacon for one person? I don't have any bacon in my preps but some salt pork. I'm guessing they used the fat from the bacon (lard) for cooking. Also, I was wondering how they canned butter back then. Perhaps, in the tin buckets like lard? Interesting list. Thanks!
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I have noticed that most of the stores are having 10 for $10 sales. Even 20 for $10 on things like canned mushrooms and tomato sauce. Spam on end caps of stores and other things people would stock up for prep items.
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wow, I really like the idea of storing water in those ziplock freezer bags. that makes saving water for my large family alot easier. how long can I store my water in these?
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Maysday in 1840-1900
butter was presserved by boiling it thoroughly, skimming off the scum as it rises to the top until it was quite clear like oil. Them is placed in tin canisters and soldered up. Processed butter that way remained edible for up to three years without refrigeration. I have some goose lard in glass jars from last year and it is OK I have also some pork lard and it is good for years without any problems |
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Ziplock bags are NOT stable enough to store water long-term. You'd have to try to put them into some kind of plastic containers, and *those* would need to be "food grade", or the water could be contaminated by the plastic.
Milk jugs are OK for short-term storage, but they are *made* to deteriorate in landfills. They have to be well-cleaned with soap and water, followed by bleach. Then well-rinsed, and water added. But they deteriorate within *months*. The best plastic and cheap containers are the 2-liter pop bottles. The plastic is food grade and last much longer. Wash as above, then add 2 drops unscented bleach to each bottle before filling. You should still store them in some sort of deep tray, because accidents do happen. Ask your friends and neighbors to save them for you, and wash well. You can tell them it's a recycling project... which it IS! 
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