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Hi HoosierMom ,thanks for the post  but  it's Babygirl going hard with the posts .   Thanks Babygirl . Thanks HoosierMom.Smile
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Encephalitis scares the dikins out of me. My sister had Encephalitis between 1979-1980. We almost lost her. It changed her she isnt the same person theres alot of things she dosent remember.
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The Upper Hand on Bacteria
 
 
Officials in those communities closed schools Thursday morning out of an abundance of caution after an unusual outbreak last month of mycoplasma pneumoniae, commonplace bacteria that normally causes no serious illness. But mycoplasma has been linked to three cases of encephalitis — an inflammation of the brain — in West Warwick and Warwick, one that resulted in the death of a 7-year-old boy.

Health officials are interested in the Coventry case for two reasons: the three cases of encephalitis initially looked like meningitis, and the girl came from a school district which had been experiencing a high absentee rate because of illnesses.

The Coventry child had been hospitalized Wednesday with symptoms of meningitis — a serious illness which involves an inflammation of tissue covering the brain and spinal cord — but is now recovering, Gifford said.

The results of blood samples sent to a CDC lab should determine sometime this weekend whether the child’s illness is related to the encephalitis cases, Gifford said.

Barring any unusual findings, Gifford said, the Health Department would recommend that the schools reopen Monday.

Meanwhile, as part of an executive order signed by Governor Carcieri, school superintendents from around the state will, starting tomorrow, begin picking up supplies of alcohol-based hand cleaner and dispensers to be used in every school in the state.

School officials will distribute posters and stickers encouraging students to be “germ-stoppers” by washing their hands often and properly and by covering their mouths when they cough.

“Don’t let bacteria get a free ride on your hands,” reads one of the sample posters yesterday, provided by the CDC. Another read: “Clean Hands Save Lives.”

Gifford said reports of walking pneumonia and meningitis are “normal” this time of year. Rhode Island records 300 to 400 cases of viral meningitis each year. Viral meningitis is less serious than the bacterial form of the illness, which is more rare but often fatal.

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Beginning as early as 1916, and continuing well into the 1920s, an unusual and disturbing illness devastated millions of people throughout the world. It arrived in the shadow of the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic– which killed an estimated fifty million people worldwide– so it has been largely overlooked by history despite the fact that it took the lives of over a million people, and left countless others frozen inside unresponsive bodies.

Young people, particularly women, were the most vulnerable to the disease, though it affected people of all ages. When an individual was stricken, the first signs were typically a sore throat and fever accompanied by a headache; but these discomforts soon developed into more alarming problems such as double-vision and severe weakness. Within hours, most of the victims were gripped by episodes of tremors, strange bodily movements, intense muscle pains, and delayed mental response. Symptoms rapidly increased in severity, and in spite of medical attention, most patients worsened dramatically. Behavioral changes often appeared– including psychosis and hallucinations– followed by steadily increasing drowsiness and lethargy. Many became comatose and completely unresponsive.

Medical science was baffled by the bizarre epidemic, which affected millions of people across the globe. The mysterious disease was given the name Encephalitis lethargica, which literally means "inflammation of the brain that makes you tired," but it was more commonly known as "sleeping sickness." Such a melancholy designation was appropriate, considering that hundreds of thousands of people died from the inexplicable ailment without ever regaining consciousness.

Among the survivors, victims tended to remain in a coma indefinitely, sometimes for months or years. Although full recoveries were not unheard of, they were a rarity. Many of those stricken with the disease experienced ill effects which lingered throughout the rest of their lives, including vision problems, difficulty swallowing, personality changes, and sometimes permanent psychosis.

One very common problem to befall people recovering from the sleeping sickness was Postencephalitic Parkinson's disease. This caused life-long symptoms such as slowness, tremors, speech problems, and abnormal muscle movement. In some cases, individuals retained their hearing, intelligence, and reasoning, but were left in a catatonic state, unable to respond to stimuli. This parkinsonism sometimes took up to a year to appear in recovered patients.

In 1928, as suddenly as it had appeared, the encephalitis lethargica epidemic was gone. Although new cases stopped being reported, thousands of those affected were housed in institutions for decades, alive but trapped within useless bodies. In 1969, over forty years after the strange disease disappeared, some catatonic victims were treated with a newly developed antiparkinson drug called Levodopa. A number of patients improved dramatically upon treatment– they stood up from their wheelchairs and became conscious, responsive, and aware of the world around them– but it was soon evident that their miraculous recovery was tragically short-lived. Most patients slipped back into a catatonic state within days or weeks, and repeated dosages were useless. The 1990 movie Awakenings is based on such experiences described in the memoirs of Dr. Oliver Sacks.

Professor OxfordProfessor Oxford

 
Cases of encephalitis lethargica since the original epidemic have been scarce, but in 1993 a twenty-three year old woman was hospitalized after suffering fever, tremors, hallucinations, and strange arm movements. Her brain was dangerously inflamed, and to the doctors' surprise, the cause was ultimately determined to be the sleeping sickness. The cause of the original 1916-1928 outbreak had never been determined in the intervening years, so a virologist named Professor John Oxford re-examined brains samples taken from victims of the original epidemic. Despite his advanced molecular probes, he found no evidence of viruses in the tissue.

As the young woman slowly recovered, Doctors Russell Dale and Andrew Church set to investigating the disease, and through the medical community they found twenty other patients with symptoms of encephalitis lethargica. After they analyzed the patients, they discovered a common thread which was also present in the historical cases: most patients complained of a sore throat before the disease struck. The men narrowed the common thread down to a particular strain of bacteria called diplococcus, known to cause sore throats. Though the evidence is insufficient to be certain, the findings of these researchers strongly suggests that the sleeping sickness epidemic was caused by the body's massive over-reaction to these bacteria. It seems that this excessive immune response caused the immune system to attack the nerve cells of the brain, resulting in significant damage. Further research has detected anti-brain antibodies present in those with the condition, further supporting the auto-immune theory.

Given the new evidence, some experts suggest that encephalitis lethargica may be much more common than we realize. It is likely that most cases are minor, and go undiagnosed. Oxford, Dale, and Church may very well have solved one of medicine's greatest mysteries, though some researchers still suspect that a virus is responsible for the disease. Research continues.

 
 
 
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Originally posted by BabyGirl BabyGirl wrote:

Hi roni,
 
Youre quite welcome.
Am hoping this is one of those freak coincidences.
They are just going to have to keep watching it.
 
Was reading on one of the links above and it said during the 1918 Pandemic 80% of those who had fallen ill had MILD FLU. The other 20% developed pnuemonia and half of them died. 
Am quite sure the CDC people on the ground there are aware of the history of pandemics and the links to encephalitis.
 
Also interesting is when the pandemic started it struck three different places on the globe at the same time. One place was Boston Mass and there were 2 other distant sites. Am going to have to try and dig it up.
 
Am happy to correspond with the people on this site. Have you ever tried talking to anyone on the subject of h5n1 or Pandemic. Most people have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or simply dont care.
 
 
Hi, BabyGirl, wow, what a great job of reporting!! I thank you so much; if we are ever going to get a handle on what is going on, it will be by connecting the dots from all over, and you are sure making a giant step in that direction.
 
My family lived in a suburb directly south of Boston in 1918, and my grandfather was the director of the Boston Medical Library.  I believe that I remember being told that he was the first one sick, then the rest of the family got sick - every one of them.  Neighbors used to bring food and leave it at the front door because "they were afraid to come in".  From what I remember hearing, my family may have been harder hit than many in the neighborhood, maybe because of my grandfather's direct contact in Boston. 
 
After my grandfather, my grandmother, my mother and 2 uncles got sick; as they were recovering, my aunt (who was 11 at the time and caring for the other 4 who were sick) got sick.  Luckily her mother was well enough by then to care for her.  Terrible times.....
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"...Medical science was baffled by the bizarre epidemic, which affected millions of people across the globe. The mysterious disease was given the name Encephalitis lethargica,..."

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The cause of encephalitis lethargica
 
is not yet known for certain, but on the basis of research by British doctors Russell Dale and Andrew Church, the disease is now thought to be due to a massive immune reaction to an infection by the streptococcus-like bacterium, diplococcus. There is also some evidence of an autoimmune origin with antibodies (IgG) from patients with EL binding to neurones in the basal ganglia and mid-brain. It had been hypothesised that encephalitis lethargica, Sydenham's chorea and PANDAS (paediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders associated with streptococcal infections) are mediated by the same post-streptococcal immune response...
 
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Diplococcus

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link titleA diplococcus (plural diplococci) is a round bacterium (a coccus) that typically occurs in pairs of two joined cells. Examples are Streptococcus pneumoniae, Neisseria gonorrhoeae and Neisseria meningitidis.
 
 
 
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Muriel et al. thanks to all for comments, stories etc. Boston was one of the first places hit by the Spanish Flu. It simutaneously effected three sites across the globe. As scary these personal accounts are, they are very interesting.  
 
Am glad my husband helped me store food and take in supplies last summer. I thanked him for this last night. He admitted he didnt think anything would happen and now he is very glad we did this. It feels good to be ready for any emergency, terrorism, epidemics, acts of God etc. !!
 
 And am sorry to say even if this IS an epidemic they CANNOT TELL PEOPLE THAT NOW. It is too late, it would cause a panic and they would go nuts.
 
Will wait and see what happens. The latest is the Superintendent in Tiverton has a teacher with mycoplasma. The latest broadcast DID NOT mention the students with pneumonia. Letters went home to all the parents.
 
Here's to prepping and staying informed ~~
 
 
 
 
 
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News tonight downplaying the event. They barely talked about it except to say the latest case from Coventry was meningitis and not related to the 3 other encephalitis cases.

Nothing more on the cases in Tiverton or the case in Lincoln. Intentionally dropped off the radar screen. People seem scared and the kids head back on Monday.
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thanks for all the reporting, roxy
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Health scare on the mend

01:00 AM EST on Sunday, January 7, 2007

By Felice J. Freyer and Cynthia Needham

Journal Staff Writers

When 7-year-old Dylan Gleavey fell ill in late November, with what seemed like a bad cold, his parents took him to a walk-in health center. He was diagnosed with a sinus infection. It seemed like a routine childhood illness.

Dylan’s family never dreamed that within three weeks their boy would be dead.

Nor did they imagine that his death would be linked to several other illnesses in his Warwick school that continue to puzzle health officials and alarm the community, leading to the closing of schools in three districts last week.

Health officials have no evidence of a continuing infection spreading in the state. But the sicknesses in the last few months hold many mysteries that have yet to be unraveled. Here’s an account of what has happened so far.

Dylan got sicker. On Thursday, Nov. 30, while watching cartoons in bed, he started vomiting and quickly lapsed into semiconsciousness, unable to move his head. His parents took him to Hasbro Children’s Hospital, and he was admitted in the early hours of Dec. 1. Doctors told his parents that he probably had viral meningitis, an infection of the fluid around the spinal cord and brain. The state sees about 300 to 400 cases of viral meningitis every year, and children who get it usually recover.

But by Dec. 6, Dylan’s diagnosis had changed. He had suffered several more seizures and was lapsing in and out of consciousness. When he was awake, he seemed confused, sometimes yelling out curses, sometimes not talking at all, his mother said. Doctors thought he had encephalitis, a rare and dangerous inflammation of the brain. Informed by the hospital, the Health Department contacted the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, asking for laboratory support and consultation. The standard testing for encephalitis was undertaken.

Meanwhile, in the first week of December, a girl who attended the same second-grade class as Dylan also started to feel sick. Like Dylan, Hannah Leahy missed a few days of school and was diagnosed with a sinus infection. And like Dylan, she didn’t get better.

Around Dec. 13, both Dylan and Hannah took a turn for the worse.

Dylan, who was already in the hospital, was admitted to the intensive care unit, according to his parents, Denise and Charles Spoerer. Doctors told them their son’s brain was swollen and drilled a hole in his head, to relieve the pressure.

Hannah, who was at home in Warwick, had awakened in the night screaming in pain. “As a mom, I just knew something wasn’t right,” her mother, Heidi Leahy, recalled in a recent interview. Hannah’s parents rushed her to the hospital, and she was admitted. Doctors said she appeared to have meningitis. It might have been bacterial, but because she had taken so many antibiotics, they could not detect bacteria in her blood.

Over the course of that week, Heidi Leahy said she often saw Dylan’s parents in the hallways of Hasbro, on breaks from their constant bedside watches. The parents shared hugs and, at times, doubts. Each said it was hard to imagine that the classmates’ illnesses were not somehow related, but that’s what doctors kept telling them.

According to Hasbro officials, the hospital on Dec. 13 notified the Health Department that two children from the same school had been admitted with neurological illnesses. Their symptoms, however, were very different. The boy had encephalitis; the girl had what looked like meningitis.

Back in Warwick, the rumor mill had kicked into high gear, as news of the classmates’ illnesses spread.

At Greenwood Elementary School, where both children were students, school nurse Carole Sivo had already contacted the Health Department when Dylan was first diagnosed with encephalitis, to ask whether the school should send a letter notifying parents. “They had said no, we didn’t need to send a notice home about encephalitis,” principal Rosemary Hunter recalled.

But when Hannah was admitted to Hasbro, Hunter said she called the Health Department herself. That phone call touched off what became a string of almost daily conversations that have continued ever since with Dr. Uptala Bandy, the state’s epidemiologist.

Schools Supt. Robert J. Shapiro said it was the Health Department that decided that parents needed to be informed and suggested a letter be sent out. “They really gave us instructions along the way, even to the point of assisting and drafting that letter,” the superintendent said.

You may have heard that two students at Greenwood Elementary School have been admitted to the hospital,” the letter begins. “… These are isolated and unrelated cases.” The letter was signed by a school official and included fact sheets on encephalitis and meningitis.

That weekend the school was cleaned and parents were invited to a meeting on Dec. 18. No one alerted the media, but parents who attended the meeting later said that Bandy also told them that the two illnesses were probably not related. “Dr. Bandy explained that if it had been a mass outbreak, you’d have seen cases every three to four days,” said Bethany Furtado, a School Committee member and former chairwoman of the Greenwood Parent Teacher Organization.

Those at the meeting, including Hunter, recalled a high level of anxiety. Dylan’s father said he went to the meeting to voice the concerns that had bothered him for days: How could the two cases not be connected? Two kids from the same classroom with neurological illnesses?

On Thursday, Dec. 21, Dylan Gleavey died in the ICU at Hasbro.

The 7-year-old who loved riding his scooter and pretending to be a superhero spent his last few days heavily sedated, in and out of a coma, his parents said.

Test results ruled out two possible causes of encephalitis — rabies and Eastern equine encephalitis. No one knew what caused the encephalitis that killed Dylan Gleavey. About 80 percent of the time, the cause of encephalitis cannot be determined.

But health officials were growing concerned. They learned that Hannah Leahy was taking a long time to recover, and it looked like she, too, might have encephalitis. They also learned of another encephalitis case in a middle schooler from West Warwick that occurred earlier the same month.

Faced with the death of a 7-year-old and two other cases of encephalitis, a rare condition, within a narrow geographic area, Dr. David R. Gifford, the state director of health, decided to get some help. On Dec. 22, he filed a formal request with the CDC asking the federal agency to deploy an epidemiological team.

Meanwhile, Hannah started to get better. She returned home on Dec. 23, the Saturday before Christmas.

The day after Christmas, while schoolchildren were on vacation, the Greenwood School sent home a second letter, announcing the loss of a “sweet, kind and loveable little boy who won the hearts of all who knew him.” The letter did not mention Hannah Leahy. The same day, two doctors from the CDC’s Epidemic Intelligence Service arrived in Rhode Island. They asked school officials for access to attendance rolls. They identified every child at the Greenwood School who had been absent for more than two days, and contacted the children’s parents and then their pediatricians. They turned up several cases of pneumonia, including a number that had been confirmed by chest x-ray. And they did tests to identify the cause.

On Friday, Dec. 29, two test results returned from the CDC. One showed that another child at the Greenwood School, who’d had pneumonia, had been infected with mycoplasma pneumoniae, a common bacteria. By itself, this was not significant; mycoplasma causes a number of pneumonia cases every year.

But the second test result gave pause: Hannah Leahy had also been infected with mycoplasma. She never had pneumonia, but she probably had encephalitis. Only very rarely does mycoplasma lead to encephalitis.

It was time to act. The state’s incident command system was activated. This is an emergency management structure with prearranged roles, terminology and lines of authority. A command center was established at the Emergency Management Agency in Cranston.

Gifford asked the CDC to send more investigators, and three more were dispatched. A typical CDC investigation involves one or two people. Rhode Island would soon have five.

The concern was not simply with the discovery of mycoplasma pneumoniae. They are commonplace bacteria that health officials don’t track and doctors don’t often worry about. Many people get infected with them, usually suffering symptoms like a common cold and then getting better without treatment. Sometimes mycoplasma can lead to “walking pneumonia,” a mild inflammation of the lungs that is common in school-age children and young adults.

But this situation was different. Only in one-tenth of 1 percent of the cases does mycoplasma lead to meningitis or encephalitis. And here there were two cases of encephalitis arising in one classroom, one of them clearly linked to mycoplasma. (Mycoplasma was never found in any specimens from Dylan Gleavey, but the bug is difficult to detect, and health officials presume that Dylan, too, was infected with it.)

At the same time, several cases of pneumonia had occurred in the same school — and one of them had already been linked to mycoplasma. (By the end of the New Year’s Day weekend, health officials would confirm that mycoplasma had caused a total of five pneumonia cases at the Greenwood School in November and December, in addition to the two encephalitis cases.)

So what to do about the Greenwood School? Health officials weighed their options. When mycoplasma outbreaks have occurred in places like long-term-care facilities or military training schools, the CDC has recommended that antibiotics be distributed to everyone who lives or works there, even if they don’t have symptoms. This has sometimes, but not always, stopped the outbreak.

But an elementary school is not like a military base. Children and staff don’t live at the school — they come and go, intermingling with the community. Never before had antibiotics been distributed to an entire school as a preventive measure. But Gifford and his CDC advisers decided it was worth a try.

On Dec. 30, the Health Department held a news conference announcing that the Greenwood School would be closed till Jan. 8, and antibiotics would be offered to every family who had a child there, to stop a possible outbreak of mycoplasma. On Dec. 31, Jan. 1 and Jan. 2, health officials met with every family with children in the school, about 275 families. Nearly all agreed to take the antibiotics, and 1,182 doses were distributed at a cost of $57,000.

On Tuesday, health officials concluded that the West Warwick encephalitis case they’d heard about, involving a child from John F. Deering Middle School, had also been linked to mycoplasma. Little information was released about that case, not even the child’s age or sex. Health officials would only say that the child went to Hasbro Children’s Hospital early last month, was diagnosed with a mild case of encephalitis, and later went home to recover.

Meanwhile, the investigation was broadening. CDC doctors asked hospitals for information on any neurological illnesses, and checked attendance records at schools in neighboring towns. They found that two schools in Coventry had unusually high absenteeism rates. They interviewed families and pediatricians and sent throat swabs and blood samples to the CDC lab in Atlanta for analysis. They were trying to determine why a normally insignificant infection had led to three encephalitis cases in a narrow geographic area. Had the bug mutated into something more dangerous?

They also wanted to know if any unusual infection was continuing to spread. In the first days of the new year, it appeared not. But the data had not been completed or analyzed, so no one could be sure. The incubation period for mycoplasma — that is, the time from when a person becomes infected until the person shows symptoms — is typically two to three weeks, four at the most. If no new cases occurred, then it would seem that whatever happened at the Greenwood School had come and gone.

Then, on Wednesday evening, health director Gifford got word that a child from Coventry had been admitted to Hasbro Children’s Hospital with a probable case of meningitis. Actually, it looked like viral meningitis — but so had the cases from the Greenwood School. And Coventry was one of the towns were CDC doctors were investigating higher-than-normal absenteeism.

It would take a few days to find out whether the Coventry child had been infected with mycoplasma.

After several hours of pre-dawn consultations among state, health and school officials, it was decided that, in “an abundance of caution,” all schools in Warwick, West Warwick, and Coventry would close for Thursday and Friday, affecting more than 20,000 youngsters.

Yesterday, test results showed that — as expected, as hoped — the Coventry child had not been infected with mycoplasma.

What happened in December remains under study. Meanwhile, schools in Coventry, West Warwick and Warwick will reopen tomorrow.

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Very intense read of a very sad tragedy.  What is troubling for me is that it took nearly 30 days to get to the bottom of all the facts concerning the outbreak.  I'm concerned that we will be weeks into an outbreak before anyone rings the pandemic bell.
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This story has been on my mind all morning.
 
They actually did not alert any of the parents of the 1st case of encephalitis and told them after the 2nd case the two were not related.
 
Just follow your own judgement and common sense. Look at what is going not not what people are saying.
 
The boy who died never tested for mycoplasma btw. The school nurse alerted the Health Dept and was told NOT TO NOTIFY PEOPLE about a child contracting encephalitis. This whole thing stinks and am going to be watching closely over the next few weeks.
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What happened in December remains under study. Meanwhile, schools in Coventry, West Warwick and Warwick will reopen tomorrow.

I don't think if I lived in this area that I could send my kid to school. I would have to wait a week or two and home school. This is situation is still in discovery mode and does not sound safe.
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Thursday, Jan 04, 2007 - 07:24 AM 
 
More than 21,000 public school students in Rhode Island will be kept home for at least the next two days.

Schools in Coventry, Warwick and West Warwick are being shut down for the rest of the week after a student in Coventry was admitted to the hospital with a probable case of meningitis.

I wonder if folks practiced social distancing?

I wonder how many children attended Sunday school and Church on Sunday in this town?

I wonder if there was a run on groceries or supplies?

 

Great information and follow-up stories BabyGirl, thank you.. It is on my mind also.

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Hi Annie,
 
Do not know if this health scare is on the mend. Its more like they are sending all the students back in there tommorow like guineau pigs. One school was given antibiotics, the one with 2 cases. The other schools have nothing.
 
If they can go a month or maybe the rest of the winter with NO NEW CASES, it will be on the mend.
 
And one more thing. There has never been one mention of the student being tested for h5n1. The h5n1 was due to arrive on the continent THIS FALL. The area where he lives is around alot of water, a pond..believe its Gorton's Pond.
 
Is it possible he came into contact with feces or an infected insect ?
Both h5n1 and encephalitis are bird diseases.
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There has never been one mention of the student being tested for h5n1.
Is it possible he came into contact with feces or an infected insect ?
Both h5n1 and encephalitis are bird diseases.
Hi BabyGirl, you rock.
I don't believe it's H5N1.
I do find a classroom cluster more alarming than a family cluster. I wonder why the papers and newsreporters are not reporting more on this story on what families are doing and saying. I understand it's being investigated, I wonder what life style changes the families are doing in the meantime?
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Hi Annie,
 
Some personal observations.
 
1) Some stores are almost sold out of hand sanitizer
 
2) One grocery store has wipes to sanitize your cart at the front of the store.
 
3)In Coventry RI, drugstore has BIG displays with santizer, tissue, immune boosters and one GREAT BIG DISPLAY OF N95 MASKS.
 
Have never seen these displayed like this before.
 
Will note any more observations but quite a response to a few cases.
 
 
 
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I wonder if folks practiced social distancing?

I wonder how many children attended Sunday school and Church on Sunday in this town?

I wonder if there was a run on groceries or supplies?


You have me chuckling. Greenwood School is within a mile of a what is probably one of the major shopping areas in RI, with two malls and heavily developed Rt 2.

Part of my family lives within walking distance of the Greenwood school, and it has had little to no impact on their day to day affairs. This scares me, since many are health professionals in local acute care facilities and they still haven't begun to take seriously the need to prepare.

    
    
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Dr.s are scientists, and they have to have rock solid proof of things, they very often will not go on a gut instinct. Seven years ago, my son, exibited a paralyizing pain in his joints. He was sixteen and was using a wheelchair, he had a cat scan and ever joint in his body was inflamed. The Dr.s in St. Paul, MN had no idea what was wrong. We came home to NC and our family Dr. had no idea. I took to the computer myself, went and told the Dr. he has systemic lupus, the Dr. said, No, thats a womans disease, and sent him to a specialist, there they did all the tests for lupus, and everyone they ran came out high positive.  The lesson I learned, is to research and know yourself, no one human being can be expected to know everything. Dr.s must go by guidelines to diagnois.
If this illness spreads, my son will be out of school. Period. I dont need the state or school district to tell me when.
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Mycoplasmal Pneumonia: Mycoplasma pneumoniae is the most common cause of pneumonia in people aged 5 to 35, but it is an uncommon cause in other people. Epidemics occur especially in confined groups such as students, military personnel, and families. The epidemics tend to spread slowly because the incubation period lasts 10 to 14 days. Most commonly, this type of pneumonia strikes in the spring.

Mycoplasmal pneumonia often starts with fatigue, a sore throat, and a dry cough and thus resembles influenza. The symptoms slowly worsen. Attacks of severe coughing may eventually produce sputum. About 10 to 20% of people develop a rash. Occasionally, anemia, joint pains, or neurologic problems (such as meningitis) develop. Symptoms often persist for 1 to 2 weeks, followed by slow improvement. Some people still feel weak and tired after several weeks. Although mycoplasmal pneumonia is usually mild and most people recover without treatment, severe cases do occur occasionally.

An x-ray shows that the person has pneumonia. Most laboratories do not offer blood tests that accurately identify mycoplasma.

When the symptoms and x-ray results lead a doctor to suspect mycoplasmal pneumonia, treatment is often started, even if mycoplasma has not been accurately identified. 

Antibiotic treatment reduces the period of fever and lung involvement and promotes recovery. However, antibiotics do not cure mycoplasmal pneumonia immediately, because people treated with antibiotics continue to carry and spread the organism for several weeks
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Babygirl said: "However, antibiotics do not cure mycoplasmal pneumonia immediately, because people treated with antibiotics continue to carry and spread the organism for several weeks."

That is REALLY frightening. I cannot believe they sent those kids back to school. Thank God I homeschool. Do you think they will just not say anything else like with the Alabama kids? I watched "The Stand" last night. Had not seen it before. Now I am REALLY wondering what the truth is!
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Hi Zuzu,                                                                                                 

Most of the parents want them back in school. They are not going to interrupt their work schedule to babysit. They may luck out and not find any new cases but it is more likely one of these students will be the next guinea pig.
 
Of all the catastrophes that have been occuring lately the response is typical: NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. My God, explosives, gas leaks, dead birds raining down from the sky, epidemics etc. How on God's earth could every single CATASTROPHIC event be NOTHING. That is impossible.
 
Trust in yourself, your instincts and stay prepared and aware. Social isolation could save your life in a pandemic so be self sufficient. Good luck to you and with your homeschooling. That commands a tremendous amount of respect.
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BTW zuzu...wanted to post the source link to the information you referenced above.

It came from Merck's Manual online:
 
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hi... I've tried to read most of this thread... did I miss something?
 
I see articles where this is linked to that and the other has nothing to do with who's on first....
 
I did understand this.
 
"...Officials believe an infection of mycoplasma bacteria, which most typically causes walking pneumonia, lead to the encephalitis that killed 7-year-old Dylan Gleavey at Warwick's Greenwood School. It's also been linked to a second, non-deadly cases of encephalitis at Greenwood, and to another non-deadly case at West Warwick's Deering Middle School.
Officials Thursday a case of meningitis at Hopkins Hill School in Coventry - not previously part of the investigation.
Updates will be posted below as the investigation continues. The most recent updates are posted at the top of this list. ..."

Are there any real facts to grab on to?  Did I miss them?  Like-

Results of xyz test...  
 
We are all in disbelief over this one-
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"...At Greenwood Elementary School, where both children were students, school nurse Carole Sivo had already contacted the Health Department when Dylan was first diagnosed with encephalitis, to ask whether the school should send a letter notifying parents. “They had said no, we didn’t need to send a notice home about encephalitis,” principal Rosemary Hunter recalled. ..."

 
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http://www.southcoasttoday.com/today/newsfront/newsfront.pdf

Channel 10 reported this case in NB
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Meningitis scare hits city school
Kindergarten student hospitalized with fever, rash
By BRIAN FRAGA, Standard-Times staff writer

NEW BEDFORD — A five-year-old kindergarten student at James B. Congdon Elementary School was treated for suspected meningitis over the weekend, prompting a health alert from school officials.
The School Department yesterday sent letters home to parents of children who had been in close contact with the possibly infected girl, who is being treated at Hasbro Children's Hospital in Providence.
The young girl woke up Saturday with a high fever accompanied by aches and pains, and was taken by her mother to St. Luke's Hospital, New Bedford Health Director Thomas E. Gecewicz said. At St. Luke's, doctors discovered a rash, a common symptom of meningitis, and immediately transferred her to Hasbro's intensive care unit.
Mr. Gecewicz said the girl was released from intensive care yesterday, and noted that a blood sample taken at St. Luke's came back negative for meningitis, a potentially-fatal bacteria-borne inflammation of the membranes protecting the brain and spinal cord. He said doctors were unable to secure a spinal tap to confirm meningitis.
"It looks like a negative, but the symptoms were a positive," Mr. Gecewicz said.
However, he said school and health department officials are taking all necessary precautions, from notifying parents to calling local pediatricians and pharmacies urging them to prepare for any additional cases of meningitis.
"If it looks and walks as if it's meningitis, then it's better to be overcautious then under-cautious," Mr. Gecewicz said. "You need to be proactive and think in terms of preventive medicine."
Congdon School Principal Diane Souza was notified yesterday by the girl's mother about the possible meningitis exposure. School officials immediately called her classmates' parents in addition to sending them letters.
"We were in contact with every child's parent who was in close contact with the child," Mrs. Souza said.
The letters urged parents to have their children examined by a physician, and recommended they take an approved antibiotic to help eliminate the bacteria and to lower the risk of spreading the disease to others.
School officials also said teachers who had close contact will be given Ciprofloxacin to combat the organism.
Noting that the antibiotics are not always 100 percent effective, school officials said they will be monitoring the students for the next three weeks for any signs of illness, which can include a fever, headache, mental confusion, lethargy, vomiting, a stiff neck, and a skin rash with fine red "freckles" or purple splotches.
School officials also sent a letter to Congdon school parents whose children did not have direct contact with the girl. New Bedford Schools Superintendent Michael Longo said it was a precautionary measure.
"We want to err on the side of caution," Mr. Longo said. "We wanted parents to know that if their children present any symptoms, they should contact their doctor right away."
More than 20,000 Rhode Island public school students missed classes last week because of a health scare caused by several cases of meningitis and encephalitis. One second-grader died from encephalitis, and a Coventry student developed meningitis.
The local meningitis scare caught the attention of Mayor Scott W. Lang, who was notified yesterday by the Health Department. Mayor Lang said he was pleased with the handling of the case.
"I think the school department and the Board of Health have worked very well together on this," he said. "It's so important. You want to make sure we do everything to contain the possible spread of something this serious."
The bacteria that causes meningitis is spread from person to person through saliva. Close contact can include activities such as sharing water bottles, sharing utensils, or being in close contact with an infected person who is coughing or sneezing.
Mrs. Souza said her school's normal policy is to call parents after a student is absent three or more consecutive days. She said that will likely be shortened to one or two days for the next three weeks.
"We'll just be a little bit more diligent about this the next couple of weeks," she said. "If they're absent for a day or two, we'll call. We're doing everything we can for precautionary measures."
Contact Brian Fraga at bfraga@s-t.com    
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New bedford is in MA on close to the RI border
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IF YOU BELIEVE IN MILITARY SCREW-UPS AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES
THIS IS A MUST READ.


 The following are small extracts of an extensive report on spraying
by military aircraft to test germ warfare techniques .  The remainder of the
report can be found at the link listed at the bottom of the page.

Do the words " Mycoplasma" , "encephalitis" ring any bells with you folks !

Whether you believe it or not its interesting reading .

Extract 1

In September, 1993 a patent was issued to Dr. Shyh-Ching Lo, who worked for the biological warfare division of the Defense Department in the United States, for his invention of a pathogenic or disease-causing mycoplasma responsible for pneumonia, chronic fatigue, lupus, and respiratory distress, precisely the symptoms we were seeing among Gulf War veterans, precisely the symptoms we are seeing among people in heavily sprayed areas, subjected to what I have come to call the "chemtrail spraying".


Extract 2


Last year, I suggested to the Environment News Service that somebody ought to look into Plum Island's experiments because the so-called West Nile fever that caused deaths on the eastern seaboard of the U.S. last year and has now re-emerged there and in upstate N.Y., was in fact, a form of Japanese encephalitis. My story about this wasn't published and got me in a lot of trouble. My research team and I had discovered that Japanese encephalitis was being researched at Plum Island where dead birds were discovered outside their research lab. Birds spread West Nile virus. Plum Island lies less than 22 miles from New York. What is going on? These appear to be a new breed of stealth viruses, and they certainly do not appear to be of natural origin.


http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164825

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164825


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This is not fair Ross,
 
Putting up stories like these are my weakness and like putting a plate of M&M's in front of a kid, of couse they are going to pounce on them!!  Hmmm?...Escalated war in the middle east... escalating cluster outbreaks of diseases disproportionate to seasonal norms???? And instead of looking at trucks being responsible for the dead birds along the highway in Colorado lets look for evidence of Japanese frogmen.  Hmmm...what if...
Sorry, I couldn't resist.  Smile
 
 
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Ross: I read the whole article, and, as you said, interesting reading. However, I was on a page once that said the chemtrails were from UFO's and they had witnessess that said so. Personally, I've never seen the chemtrails. As for the UFO's, well.....Wink

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Interesting on how to handle school closures
 
 
http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/13/2/06-1109.htm
 
 

Volume 13, Number 2–February 2007

Letter

Pandemic Influenza School Closure Policies

Laura H. Kahn* Comments to Author
*Princeton University, Princeton, NJ, USA

Suggested citation for this article

To the Editor: Holmberg et al.

 
These concerns are particularly relevant for school closure decisions during an influenza pandemic. The US Department of Health and Human Services' checklist regarding school closures gives conflicting messages
 
 
It also recommends developing alternate procedures to ensure the continuity of instruction in the event of district-wide school closures. These vague recommendations may reflect the paucity of data to recommend school closure.
 
 
To read in full please click on link above...
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Although the United States is a nation dedicated to federalism, an uncoordinated approach for community response measures such as school closure decisions could jeopardize our efforts in containing a deadly pandemic. If schools were to remain open until a certain percentage of students and faculty became ill, as they do during typical influenza seasons, then control measures to contain the outbreaks would likely be far more difficult to achieve because a chain of transmission would be established. Some might consider it unethical for schools to stay open in the face of a pandemic with a high death rate. I therefore think a national policy, or at least specific national guidelines, should be developed jointly by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Education, so that states' school districts can develop rational, coherent, and coordinated closure plans to protect children and communities during an influenza pandemic.

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/13/2/06-1109.htm

This is very interesting. I definitely feel it would be unethical to keep schools open during a pandemic!

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For Immediate Release
Date: January 12, 2007

HEALTH and CDC Will Survey Warwick, West Warwick, and Coventry Residents
Telephone Survey Will Look at Effect of School Closures in the Community and Help Plan for Future Public Health Emergencies

As part of our public health efforts, HEALTH and the CDC are interested in learning about the effects of the recent school closures on the community. Of particular interest are the social and economic impacts that the closure of schools placed on families. This type of community containment measures, but on a much larger scale, would probably be implemented in case of an influenza pandemic. Therefore, we expect the results of the survey to be helpful in our ongoing planning process for pandemic influenza.

We plan to gather information in two ways:

  1. The CDC will be calling randomly selected houses in Warwick, West Warwick, and Coventry where students live to ask parents to participate in a telephone survey. Only a small proportion of student households will actually be selected.
  2. The CDC will also be surveying some high school students from the schools that were closed last week.

The purpose of these surveys is not to find out where infections may have started or to whom or how they might have spread. We are trying to learn what kinds of things students did and places they went in order to learn about how people respond when schools are closed. We also want to know how school closure affected families. Individual's participation will be very helpful to the community as it makes future plans to keep people safe and healthy.

People with questions about either of these surveys should call the HEALTH Family Health Information Line at 1-800-942-7434.

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The above was posted on the RI Dept of Health Website 1/12/07

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