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Technologist
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Loribearme you couldn't have picked a better conspiracy theory. You love conspiracy stuff and you post them non stop. If everyone already had hidden secret RFID chips imbedded in them or someone sprinkled RFID chips on their food like that lady claims. And it was proven without a doubt to be true. Then it would be a FACT. For now it's some lady trying to get a bunch of misguided fearful people to buy her books. She makes her entire income writing books like "spychips" doing talk shows and giving speeches at paranoia conventions. The more you scare people the more they will buy. The Future laws of RFID chips is unknown and it definitely would seem like a Huge invasion in privacy. I doubt I would want one imbedded in me. It would also be very useful: What if RFID chips were required by law to be placed in all two time convinced Child Molesters. You and your kids would know if a Pervert was within 30 feet of them. What if all two time violent felons had the chip inserted by law. You could detect a criminal walking around your yard before they broke into your house. It would make it very difficult for them to forge checks, use stolen credit cards, or fence stolen goods. People with diabetes or known medical conditions could be treated quickly and it would save lives knowing their medical problems and history instantaneously without waiting hours for blood work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conspiracy theory is a term that originally was a neutral descriptor for any conspiracy claim. However, it has come to almost exclusively refer to any theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful Machiavellian conspirators, such as a "secret team" or "shadow government", rather than broad social forces and large structures of human collectivities.[1] Conspiracy theories are often viewed with skepticism and sometimes ridiculed because they are seldom supported by any conclusive evidence and contrast with institutional analysis, which focuses on people's collective behavior in publicly known institutions, as recorded in scholarly material and mainstream media reports, to explain historical or current events, rather than on secretive coalitions of individuals. [2] The term is therefore often used dismissively in an attempt to characterize a belief as outlandishly false and held by a person judged to be a crank or a group confined to the lunatic fringe. Such characterization is often the subject of dispute due to its possible unfairness and inaccuracy.[3] In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, conspiracy theories have become commonplace in mass media, which has contributed to conspiracism emerging as a cultural phenomenon and the possible replacement of democracy by conspiracy as the dominant paradigm of political action in the public mind. Belief in conspiracy theories has therefore become a topic of interest for sociologists, psychologists and experts in folklore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory |
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Mary008
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Tech says...
You love conspiracy stuff and you post them non stop.
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Tech... don't be afraid, we won't let the theories harm you. kick back ... smile more.
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Technologist
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My usual breakfast is a bowl full of theories, nano-chips for lunch and supercomputers for dinner. I feed my Smurfs colloidal silver so they don't fade or die of the swine flu. |
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Loribearme
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She has some legit things to say....not all are conspiracy. If you heard her then you would know...don't go jumping to your conclusions just yet...just see her point of view and take it with a grain of salt.
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Loribearme
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Also, since I took my silver I have noticed I have no loss of energy (this is the worst thing about the flu)...and besides my fever being GONE, the stupid post nasal drip is gone too...this is weird...I have never had this happen...I just got the silver just to see if it really works....and to me it does....so please don 't be closed minded --about this or anything else...we are STILL a free country......(but for how much longer??) dont judge too harshly
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Mary008
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I will give it a look Loribearme... I was just laughing at the smurf comment. Tech has no shame today.... :) There are a lot of theories out there...some are wild and some are very interesting. Some look crazy ...but are true... they are not ALL... entirely nuts. Things are not that black and white.
Way back... a white house staffer's wife was telling stories about all kinds of wild sounding
things going on in the whitehouse... the woman's husband said she was crazy.. on
medication...never mind her ravings... she even went on tv to rave a little. It was true.
Later on they called it watergate. Glad you're better... it's a nasty flu for sure. Mild to :/
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I had to edit this post. I'll post it in a week or so.
It's just to much for some to grasp without me posting some pictures and links to authenticate it. |
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Loribearme
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ok guys....dont compare me to some crazy person!!
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Medclinician
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Readers - we trying seriously to deal with a serious problem which is global and people are dying. This is Tech while that happening. We will continue to datamine and put up the truth while we have this type in the background laughing. When the winter comes and the ants are safe and warm - the grasshoppers will be frozen to the telephone poles because they did not prepare and spent more time ridiculing those who did than taking care of their own families. Medclinician |
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Don't encourage him. In the end, this type of spin will cost us the lives of millions and keep us from informing people of much needed information. You actually think this is funny. My whole family is ill and many of my dear friends. I don't think that is funny. Medclinician |
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Dr. Katherine Albrecht, is a legit doctor and she is speaking in Kalispell MT,
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Technologist
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Med, Have you ever enjoyed life?
I was telling a joke after Mary008 was teasing me. Did you see the Smile face that mary008 posted. It seemed like she thought it was funny. It's OK to joke around. You should try it once and awhile. Oh I get it. You hate Smurfs. Next time I'm in the woods, I'm going to tell those little small blue creatures who live in the forest that you hate them. Then we will see who has credibility or fans in Smurf Village. |
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Mary008 you should listen to Med, If I tell a Joke about Smurfs it will cost us millions of lives. Don't even smile as It might even cause the end of humanity. Med you are so much like Frank Burns on M*A*S*H and that was a complement. Maybe you should tell Colonel Potter that Hawkeye is disrupting the operating room! |
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somehow comedians and global disasters aren't compatible. You want a joke. Okay. There was a very religious man who believed deeply in God and his power to deliver him from any disaster. There was a horrible flood and he and his family were on the edge of a roof as the torrent of the river rushed by. He was praying feverishly for God to save him and a man in a boat came by and said- hey jump in- I'll get you and your family to safety. No, he said. God is going to save me or will give me the insight to figure out what to do. So the man in the boat left. The river rushed further, now a torrent of howling storm and rushing water with a few feet left on the roof. A helicopter came down, bright light flashing and a loudspeaker boomed out- please grab the ladder we are lowering down- you don't have much time. The man on the roof stared at the ladder and laughed. Don't you know that at the last minute this flood will just vanish and miraculously we all be saved and all your doom and gloom will have been for nothing. They waited several minutes - and finally with almost broken voice the rescuer said- as you wish. The helicopter vanished into the howling storm. Finally with a deafening roar the water swarmed the house and the man and his entire family drowned. In heaven, the man was standing at the pearly gates next to St. Peter and the saint said- God wants to have a word with you. He stepped through and soon, bowed down before God and still he was grumbling- I don't understand. I have believed all my life in you. Then you abandon me, said the man. Look, said God. I sent you a boat, I send you a helicopter- what do you want I gave you plenty of ways to save yourself? ......... hands Tech a container of water and a box of rations... any questions? Prep. Medclinician |
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Oh beware, my lord, of jealousy!
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock The Swine Flu it feeds on. |
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Medclinician
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You know Tech my caring about people extends to you no matter what you say about me. I would be the hand reaching out to pull you and your family off that roof. Let me finish my book and you do your site. The world will be better because of it. Nite. We fossils, especially fluish ones do need sleep. Readers- for me this is training. When I go public - and am on the media- this is just a warm up. Med |
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MY son has H1N1, Thursday they treated him for asthama and thought it was a cold. Friday he was getting much worse. BY Saturday night it was touch and go, no matter how old your child is you never stop being scared. He was able to start talking a little bit last night. Today he said he thought he was going to die. He said Mom I can't imagine how a child can make it through this, I couldnt get enough air in my lungs to even speak. Said everything on him hurts so badly and he is so exhausted he cant even lift his arms. THey put him on tami flu antibiotics treating him still with all the asthma medication they can think of and other drugs for cough and lungs .
They put everyone in our family on tami flu immediately. No adverse reactions for any of us as yet including the babies. THe kids are on 1 dose a day instead of 2, unless they start any one of the symtoms, then they will go to 2 times a day immediately.
My son is Exec. Chef for all the UCSD medical Centers, and had to take one of his chefs to the emgergency rooms last Wed., they are pretty sure he contacted it there. Adam isnt out of the woods yet ,but Praise GOd, I really feel he is going to be ok. Doctors said he can possibly come home Friday. So far none of us are showing any signs of the Flu.
Adam said he wouldn't wish this on anyone.
God bless all of you..
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Hugs Ruthie
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Medclinician
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Prayers are with you Pebs for your son. Some encouraging words from some of us who have had this- it is a miserable flu. One of the symptoms is severe depression and a feeling of hopelessness. Dr. D remarked to me during her worst period of this- she felt truly awful mentally as well as physically. It is so good that he is doing somewhat better. Sons always need their moms- no matter how old they are- and I am sure your caring and love is helping him a great deal to get through this. Med |
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I'm exhausted myself. I gave a double Red Cell Donation 5-6 days ago and I have no energy at all for the last two days.. No Fever or real flu symptoms at all. My SPO2 is 97-98 and my Hemoglobin and Hematocrit were at the upper end when I donated. 17.1, 52.2 so I'm stumped as to why standing is so exhausting. I do Triathlons and have donated numerous times so blood donation issues seem odd. I doubt I even have a flu so I'm not going to waste my Relenza. My kids are fine so I'm keeping distance and I have Negative ventilation in my room just in case.
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Ruthie, tell your son, we are all thinking of him. I hope he gets better soon. Maybe when he is better he can tell us about it!! This sounds terrible and am so glad he is better. |
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Technologist, take it easy for a couple days and I hope you feel better soon. |
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Technologist
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Thanks, As long as I'm laying down I feel pretty good. It's not a big deal yet. It's just walking around that hits me hard. I'll probably be running around by friday. I actually have a good deal of Medical Equipment in my home if needed. Oxygen Concentrators, O2 Tanks, Finger and recording SPO2 monitors, Two Bi-pap ST's with full ventilatory support, nebulizers etc,. My next door neighbor is a good friend an a Cardiologist so I'm covered. |
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Laughter is so good for us... NY was hard hit this summer. we were in a faint for days, the funny DVD's we had were wonderful, like Frazier. Ruthie so sorry you guys had to go through that. In some places it isn't so mild. When Tamiflu didn't work they injected Relenza in a few cases. I wish they gave more facts in news articles like that.
I enjoyed the fall air today... a little wood smoke in there somewhere and we had the urge to buy cider. Hope everyone is enjoying the fall... Tech remember...dramamine if the dizzyness hits. I read that The Chinese Govt. has welcomed Citigroup to expand there. what a great day... |
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Technologist
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Thanks Mary, It's a great day and laughing is therapeutic. |
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Ruthie my best to you and your son Adam....am so sorry it's hitting him hard. I hope you'll both be ok. Techie....please do take care and thank you for giving the gift of life. Mary you are right we do need to laugh sometimes. And Med...I hope you and your family get well soon. You are all good people here....and I am proud to know you all...well as much as the site allows me. take care, Tip |
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I'm 80-90% better today but I was zapped for a few days. Double red cell blood donations can drain you big time. Giving them around flu season is not a smart idea and I take full credit for being an idiot when they talked me into it. I didn't have a fever so I think it was simply the donation that zapped my energy. It's weird as I've never had a problem donating before. |
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Tech,
I was anemic once and it made me feel half dead, I would imagine that anemia and having lost a good bit of blood through a double donation may be a bit alike unitl you build your blood supply back up. What a grand thing to do during a bad flu season. You have a good heart as well as a top notch brain.
I was glad to see that your first post was about water, I was headed out of town and did not have the time to do any research, but as you can tell from my responce I thought it was something like that.
On behalf of the whole site, I wish you a speedy recovery.
I have some questions for you though
1. Do you think that it may have been a conspiracy by the government to kill you off since you stepped up to donate blood to hellp out during their planned pandemic? After all, you could thwart them by a couple people living who were slated to die. You may want to think about that.
2. Did the medical tech who drew you have the name Johny or Med Tech on their name tags? I hope as smart as you are you took the time to make note, as one of our members woulld warn, this could mean life or death?
3. When you were in donating blood, did the lights flicker at all to infer that the facility was perhaps in danger of losing power from a breakdown of the grid?
4. Did you actually partake in the complementary free cookies and juice after you were done donating blood and since you donated twice as much, did you get twice as many cookies and two glasses of juice? If the cookies are tainted or the juice you may have the double secret hexavax in you right now. Let us who are universaal doners know, we all are out here , saying it is not IF but WHEN.
5. Just FYI did you happen to find out what g overnment controlled business produces the cookies? Several have been immplicated Keebler, Oreo, and Fig Newton. You need to ask to see the receipe if there is any sugar in them, it can cause ADHD, hyper activity which can lead to learning disabiities, it can cause a large round inter tube trype growth around the abdomen. making one appear pregnant. These are but a few of the side effects coming out every day.
6. Be especially caareful of the Keebler elves everyone trusts those little guys in their cute shoes, but earlier this year, they sent a batch of tainted cookies to Canada, some Canadian grocer gave them to some starving dogs, who hung out around his dumpster and about twenty four hours later the dogs were dead, and all 1055 boxes of cookies had been consumed. Had it not been for a bag boy spilling the beans those cookies could have been on shelves across America.
7. You need to write a survivors manual on how to donate blood and survive, cover things like what happens when the milk runs out?
8. Talk abuut scandal, did you reaize that if you eat too many of those cookies with that secret ingredient in them and you go to the hospital to have your stomach pumped to avoidd severe sugar overdose, they will actually put a plastic cancer causing tube down your throat and pour a bunch of charcoal stuff into your stomach so you vomit?
As your friend and admirer here, I would be glad to contact David Icckes and see if he can stop his work with Med for a while and help me to perfect my shape shifting techniques sso I could fly to you in the form of a bird and help care for you. Please be aware though, a scond wave is going tp be started very soon if not already, Chips Ahoy, moon pies, and red hots.
I know you will sleep better at night knowing we have such fine conspiracy theorists here who will be working day and night seearching the web for cures for you.
God bless, live long and prosper,
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MY jaw hit my desk when i read this one abcdefg..........tell me this is a joke and your being funny..
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Hugs Ruthie
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Technologist
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Ruthie23, His post was destine to become a holiday classic. It was a classic and regardless of the reality it was funny. I messed up and gobbled the cookies, I even drank a quart of dihydrogen monoxide. Wile donating I was bleeding profusely. Within 30 minutes of dying my nurse saved me. She estimated that I was bleeding a quart every 9 minutes. I owe my life to her and Med on the generous knowledge they share, I would have succumb to the blood letting and the millions of people could have died if Med's knowledge didn't touch the hearts near me. I'm dedicating this short moment. .0000000000000000000001th of one second to Medclinician as his knowledge that saved me. |
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Medclinician
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Tech- this flu is a sneaky one. Our research so far indicates that it can basically go around the immune system which basically is the thing which produces symptoms, fever, and anything clearly definable. It also comes back. It is not a simple matter of a few days of misery. We have been seeing this in employees for over a year. A stubborn flulike illness that becomes chronic. The problem is - it effect peoples thinking, mood, disposition, and decisions. The over all climate in the U.S. moodwise is not terrific. Yes Tech. We are all human- and whether we have serious symptoms, as I have had and are diagnosed, or this things slowly eats at us draining our energy and throwing us off balance, it is a threat. Do, what I have not been able to do for years, get some rest and smell the roses, and just enjoy your family and your life. No one knows for sure how this is going to play out- but we do know that millions in the U.S., a 20% sample drawn weeks ago were positive for Swine Flu- are infected. No hard feelings, as I said to RC. And ready for a joke- just like a Toyota- some of us are- driven. Medclinician |
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The NY form was so rotten it was grown for pandemic vaccine. .... we had wave 2 in the summer. (see Med there's that wave thing :) ... it is outside the lungs for some. (systemic) and it can remain for as long as 3 months... Viral shedding is the polite term...
oral fecal route is a big problem (think avian) this is why all the focus on hand washing.
We have more flu all year hitting us than people realize... people over 60 tend to call it old age... my dad for one... "no dad... it's a virus, I had it too."
Doctors have shortened it (yr round flu)...to... you have a virus.
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Ruthie, I was funnin with Tech a little. He got me scared on the water thing. So I had to "inform him" of that serious cookie threat out there. Debbie
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It is the environment and swarms of viruses, prions, and bacteria that are messing people up so they are chronically ill and cannot think well or remember. I think many people are currently very ill with Swine Flu. My family certainly is ill- with something. Med |
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