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Seal Flu A New Threat

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    Posted: July 31 2012 at 3:16am
     From today's New York Times.  Some of our members were in past posts concerned re. seal die-offs,  Note the avian flu  accomplished one of our worst nightmare here at the group- full airborne spread mammal-to-mammal.  This is a new H3N8 Avian, not the H5.  For  full article with photos visit the Times at
 
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July 31, 2012

Flu That Leapt From Birds to Seals Is Studied for Human Threat

By CARL ZIMMER

Four times in the past century, a new strain of flu has emerged that can spread quickly in humans. One of those strains, which emerged in 1918, killed an estimated 50 million people.

All human flu strains evolved from flu viruses that live in birds. To understand how these transitions happen, scientists have recently been tinkering with a strain of bird flu to see how many mutations it takes until its spreads from mammal to mammal.

When news of their efforts emerged last fall, a fierce debate broke out about the wisdom of publishing the experiments in full.

Eventually, the scientists got the go-ahead from a federal advisory board, and earlier this year they described how a few mutations of a strain called H5N1 enabled it to spread among ferrets. But the controversy still rages: Responding to worries about an accidental release of an engineered virus, leading flu scientists agreed in January to a moratorium on further research, and experts are debating when it should be lifted.

Scientists may respect moratoriums, but nature does not. Evolution recently carried out an influenza experiment of its own on the coast of New England. Last fall, 162 dead harbor seal pups washed up on the beaches of New Hampshire and Massachusetts.

In a paper published Tuesday in the journal mBio, a team of scientists reports that the pups were killed by a new strain of influenza. Their research indicates that the virus evolved from bird flu, gaining the ability to spread from seal to seal β€” a real-life example of the transformation that scientists have been exploring in their labs.


 
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thanks for that jdljr1
found this bit very interesting;;

"They identified 37 mutations that set the seal virus apart from bird flu. A number of the mutations have been previously documented as important for flu viruses to adapt to mammal hosts"
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Sneaky little virus. And don't forget that while we're fixating on H5, there are 17 know HA subtypes that we know of, and there's no guarantee that others won't make the jump to humans. Until a few years ago, we thought we were only susceptible to H1, H2 and H3 influenza, but with the opportunities we're giving other subtypes through intensive farming of poultry and pigs, and biosecurity issues allowing the passage of viruses back and forth between wild and factory farmed animals, we're seeing people being infected with other subtypes - and it's only going to get worse. 
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TUESDAY, July 31 (HealthDay News) -- A new influenza strain found in New England harbor seals could potentially threaten people as well as wildlife, new research suggests.

Scientists cautioned that viruses like the newly discovered seal flu must be monitored in order to predict new strains and prevent a pandemic flu emerging from animals.

The report was published online July 31 in mBio.

"There is a concern that we have a new mammalian-transmissible virus to which humans haven't been exposed yet. It's a combination we haven't seen in disease before," report editor Dr. Anne Moscona, professor of pediatrics and of microbiology and immunology at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York City, said in a journal news release.

Another expert agreed that the flu strain could someday pose a threat to people.

"Infections that threaten wildlife and human lives remind us how our health is intermingled on this dynamic planet," said Dr. Bruce Hirsch, attending physician in infectious diseases at North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset, N.Y. He said that while transmission via direct contact between humans and harbor seals is unlikely, the virus could find other ways to get to people.

"A dangerous virus infecting mammals increases the risk to us -- not by direct infection -- but by evolutionary development of even more riskier strains," Hirsch explained. For example, he said, the strain might pass from seals to birds, expand its presence in the environment and mutate in ways that make it easily passed to or between humans.

Scientists from several organizations, including Columbia University and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, co-wrote the new report. They said that flu viruses found in mammals, such as the H1N1 "swine flu" that emerged in 2009, can put people's health at risk. The new seal flu, they warned, presents a similar threat to humans.

The researchers analyzed the DNA of a virus linked to the death of 162 harbor seals in 2011 off the coasts of Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine. Five autopsies revealed that the seals died from infection with a type of flu known as H3N8.

The report pointed out that the seal flu is very similar to a flu strain found in North American birds since 2002. The virus, the researchers noted, adapted to living in mammals. It also has mutations that are known to make viruses easier to spread and more dangerous. They added the seal flu, which is able to target a protein found in the human respiratory tract, may have the potential to move between species.

The researchers warned that pandemic flu can originate in unexpected ways, so preparation is essential.

"Flu could emerge from anywhere and our readiness has to be much better than we previously realized. We need to be very nimble in our ability to identify and understand the potential risks posed by new viruses emerging from unexpected sources," said Moscona. "It's important to realize that viruses can emerge through routes that we haven't considered. We need to be alert to those risks and ready to act on them."

Still, viral strains typically must undergo several key mutations to become the source of a human pandemic, Hirsch said.

"Each time the flu virus infects a cell, it is a roll of the dice," he said. "There are eight separate segments of genes inside the virus -- simple viral versions of chromosomes -- which recombine at random, producing unique viruses. Cells can be infected with multiple viruses, so a dangerous gene from a bird can get mixed in with a gene that makes it easy to infect humans."

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The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention provides more information on the spread of flu viruses from animals to people

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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Sneaky little virus. And don't forget that while we're fixating on H5, there are 17 know HA subtypes that we know of, and there's no guarantee that others won't make the jump to humans. Until a few years ago, we thought we were only susceptible to H1, H2 and H3 influenza, but with the opportunities we're giving other subtypes through intensive farming of poultry and pigs, and biosecurity issues allowing the passage of viruses back and forth between wild and factory farmed animals, we're seeing people being infected with other subtypes - and it's only going to get worse. 
 
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Look let us face it folks...mother nature will have her way. There are way too many people on the earth and a virus will mutate and kill millions if not billions.   

What we are doing here on this blog is trying to keep up and find out if the Killer Virus is coming at us so that we can hunker down before our families get hit and die.

Just a fact of life for all of us to others we are nuts.

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So right FluMom...
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Dead Seals Found on Local Beaches
 
Aug 4, 2012

Dead seals washed up this week on two North Shore beaches.

On Wednesday, a dead seal was reported on a small beach on Winter Island. Salem police called the New England Aquarium in Boston.

β€œThe aquarium came down and took some blood samples and tissue samples,” said Patrick Mulligan, a Salem assistant harbormaster.

A gray harbor seal carcass was reported Thursday on a beach in Beverly Farms. Again, the aquarium was contacted.

Last fall, more than 160 dead seals, largely young pups, washed up on beaches in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Scientists recently linked the deaths to a new strain of bird flu.

Tom Dalton can be reached at tdalton@salemnews.com

http://www.salemnews.com/local/x2068759917/Dead-seals-found-on-local-beaches

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