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"US is 50% prepared for flu"

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    Posted: March 03 2006 at 3:38pm
Where would you even begin to respond to this article?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/03/news/flu.php

FRIDAY, MARCH 3, 2006

WASHINGTON A top government health official here said that the United States was only "50 percent" prepared for an avian flu pandemic, prompting legislators to call for much more vigorous action to stop the spread of the disease before it reaches U.S. shores.

In a congressional hearing this week on international preparations for a pandemic, lawmakers pressed Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, to quantify the state of U.S. preparedness.

She demurred at first, before adding, "I would venture to say we are less than 50 percent, but we are 100 percent more prepared than we were three years ago." She and other experts told members of a House Appropriations subcommittee that even with a sharp rise in funding and attention since the disease began an unexpectedly rapid spread around the globe, preparations would take months or years.

President George W. Bush drew attention to the prospects of a pandemic in October when he said he would ask Congress to spend $7.1 billion on bird- flu preparations. Congress so far has allocated $3.3 billion, much of it to stockpile antiviral drugs and bolster domestic preparedness.

But Representative Nita Lowey of New York, the ranking Democrat on the Foreign Operations subcommittee, said that "one of my top priorities is to fight it over there," and other lawmakers agreed.

Gerberding and other specialists, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, said that their agencies and others were actively cooperating with national and international public-health and wildlife officials but that worrying gaps remained.

They said the United States should probably be spending more money to help in Africa, where infected poultry were recently found in Nigeria and Niger. They acknowledged that they were unaware what preparations Mexico had made against an outbreak, though the flu could enter the United States from there.

They told the panel that they simply did not know whether a program China has announced to compensate farmers for chickens killed in mass culls was being effectively carried out.

Moreover, one vaccine being administered to domestic fowl in Asia might be dangerously masking the virus's presence without killing it, they said.

They also agreed that critical gaps remain in the ability of many developing countries to spot avian influenza. If the flu emerges in a country that has no epidemiologist or laboratory capable of identifying it, "then we'll miss the boat," Gerberding said.

Still, she said, a global surveillance network is growing.

Some countries have established primitive sentinel systems; Cambodian villagers, for example, are being issued mobile phones and trained to alert the authorities to suspect bird deaths. Workers in Nigerian polio clinics are similarly being taught to report suspicious flu-like diseases.

The flu has spread rapidly from Asia to the Middle East to Africa and Europe, reaching more than 30 countries, killing thousands of birds and, by latest count of the World Health Organization, 94 humans who had come into contact with them. The specialists said it was impossible to say if or when it might mutate into a strain capable of easy human-to-human transmission.

The United States has allocated $280 million to help mitigate the spread of the disease abroad, as well as $25 million to protect the health of overseas diplomats and their families, and $15 million in the event they require evacuation, said Dr. Kent Hill, assistant administrator in the U.S. Agency for International Development.

The Centers for Disease Control has placed teams in 45 countries to allow quicker responses.

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In other words we are not prepared at all.
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What are they basing the number of 50% preparedness on? Stockpiling Tamiflu? That's being 50% prepared?

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50% is so wildly out of line.  Try 0%.  Response to a pandemic in the USA will make the response to Katrina look first class!  We have submitted a bill they may get Tamiflu stocks to some for 50% of the population. 


How about food?  Water? Medical care centers. Distribution points for all of these.  How are supplies of all kinds going to get around?  How to feed quarantined people?  The rapidly diminishing number of Emergency Rooms are overwhelmed at almost any given time. 

What is little understood about the USA's precarious position is that standard health care in the US doesn't even touch a large component of the population.  Nations with national health care are at least set up for basic care for the ENTIRE population, and they have the FINANCIAL structure in place.  Health (and life) insurance companies in the USA will fold like a house of cards in a very short time, and the financial structure of the hospitals will follow soon after, and the US will be trying to build its health care infrastructure in the MIDDLE of the pandemic!  There was far more public health infrastructure in the 1918 pandemic than now.  This will be the USA's unique crippling blow among the industrialized nations: the complete crumbling and disarray of the entire health care system.

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Originally posted by aurora aurora wrote:

Where would you even begin to respond to this article?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/03/news/flu.php

  Maybe we could round them all up, hold them at gunpoint, and make them all tell the Truth.  The Absolute Truth.
 
What the hell am I thinking here?  They'd lie anyway.
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Originally posted by Thomas Angel Thomas Angel wrote:

Originally posted by aurora aurora wrote:

Where would you even begin to respond to this article?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/03/news/flu.php

  Maybe we could round them all up, hold them at gunpoint, and make them all tell the Truth.  The Absolute Truth.
 
What the hell am I thinking here?  They'd lie anyway.

So right you are!

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get the pic..........we are more preparred than those on the gov seats
ignorance.
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hey maybe if we all could admit that there is a pandemic on the horizon and tell the people that have no idea what is going on we could eliminate alot of bad things to come
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they wil lnot believe us
ignorance.
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Originally posted by BF WATCHER BF WATCHER wrote:

hey maybe if we all could admit that there is a pandemic on the horizon and tell the people that have no idea what is going on we could eliminate alot of bad things to come
Damn, ya know...Most people don't want to hear it, let alone admit it.  I guess they'd rather be "locked" into ignorance than to open a door to the unknown.

It's dark on the other side of that door.

At least some of us have "armed ourselves with flashlights".

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be prepared to be apart of the solution after the event, at the local level there is going to be a need of people that were prepared and had time to think of next steps

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Dualis, I agree.  

I think that a lot of us have had precious time to think of all kinds of, not so obvious, problems that could come up & prepare for them too. 

When TSHTF, most people won't have any time to make serious preps, let alone think!

God help us all...
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If you read the article carefully, she says "We are LESS THAN 50% prepared, but a 100% more than before"!!! What the hell does that mean? They have currently Tamiflu in stockpiles for less than 2% of the population, more on order.

 And this moronic politician says "I'd rather fight it over there than here". What, migratory birds are going to stop flying??!!! The inmates are in charge of the asylum!!

I'm with Peggy

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AMEN, Amen & Amen...Fermvet!!!!

We all truly need God more than ever at this time!!!

Seek, & you shall find...Seek, dam$it, Seek!

May our precious Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ, help us all...
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