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    Posted: April 06 2013 at 7:05am

Number of cases of new bird flu virus rises to 18 in China after Shanghai reports 2 more



BEIJING, China - Shanghai has reported two more cases of human infection of a new bird flu virus strain that has killed six people in eastern China. The virus has so far sickened 12 other people in the country.

Health officials believe people are contracting the H7N9 virus through direct contact with infected fowl and say there's no evidence the virus is spreading easily between people.

Shanghai's government said Saturday that the latest victims are a 74-year-old peasant and a 66-year-old retiree. The city has been ordered by the agriculture ministry to halt its live poultry trade and slaughter all fowl in markets where the virus has been found.

The capital cities of the neighbouring provinces of Zhejiang and Jiangsu also have suspended sales of live poultry. Both provinces have reported H7N9 cases.

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Starting to seem a little odd that the cases go up by 2 each day.   Almost makes me think that there are more cases then being reported and that China is releasing the info slowly.  Similarly, it also seems odd that we haven't had a human to human case as of yet.  Looks like China could be playing their old misinformation game as they did with SARS in 2003. 
 
Plus no more deaths being reported on those currently in crticial condition, which is most of them, as well as the condition of the latest two cases.  
 
Is China underreporting new cases and deaths?  No doubt at this point. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tonino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2013 at 7:36am
 Completely agree with this. And all the neighbouring countries are doing, or will do exactly the same, to guaranty social stability and avoid the phenomenon of panic. What is the real situation as of now? Could the virus be everywhere already? Of course it could, but their economic and politic interests are more important than life of human beings.

The bottom line of this is that they will help the pandemic spreading, and endangers the life of people. Decidedly, man is a wolf to man.

Hey guys, I feel a bit uncomfortable and hot right now, with the sensation of a slight sore throat starting to arise.. To all the irresponsible deciders and elites who almost always do the wrong things and take the worst decisions, if something bad happens, i tell you bunch of meagre cheap egoists: You will not take it to heaven...Censored
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 This just went out:

Beijing starting Anti-H7N9 emergency procedures.

Beijing municipal government issued a notice to the city today to enter a state of emergency for the prevention and control of H7N9 avian influenza, in addition to daily afternoon timing of return information, and thorough investigation of the city's nine years ago, which prohibits live poultry transactions.

The notice pointed out, The Beijing to 16:30 every day, the circumstances of the day and information reported to the major office. Since Beijing 2004, which prohibits live poultry trading, the notification requirements of the city's must strengthen supervision, non-live poultry to enter the market, and trading in the market, slaughter trafficking.


The notice also requires veterinary unit continuously monitors the status of animals infected with the H7 subtype influenza, and close monitoring; animal health supervision units to strictly supervise the slaughter, management, processing, transport, storage and other sectors, is strictly prohibited without quarantine or quarantine unqualified livestock poultry products into the market.

http://www.cna.com.tw/News/aCN/201304060238-1.aspx

Besides this, according to some expats living in China, masks have begun to bloom all around the city of Nanjing and now Beijing.

.http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5913201;

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I just found this on the News Now feed (UK portal)
this is a bit alarmist, and I do not remember how much we rely on Recombinomics Commentary. At one point this author was posting here, so give me some guidance as to their current status.

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H7N9 Minghang Cluster Raises Pandemic Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 17:00
April 6, 2013
Wu Demao was bewildered when he heard that his son-in-law, Wu Liangliang, who died on March 10 at Shanghai No 5 People's Hospital, was a victim of H7N9 bird flu.

The hospital paid the family 130,000 yuan (HK$161,000) in compensation on March 26, saying it was for humanitarian reasons and for its minor responsibility in Wu Liangliang's treatment, without elaborating.

The above comments describe a payment to the family of the second H7N9 case (27M) who lived in the Minghang District and died at the Shanghai Number Five People’s Hospital in Minhang. The first confirmed case (87M) was also treated on the same floor of the hospital. In addition, his two sons (69M and 55M) were also treated at the hospital, so the family of the second victim claimed that their relative had been infected at the hospital by one of the three family members being treated at the hospital.

The three family members had been described earlier (in March 7 media reports) and prior to the announcement of confirmation of H7N9 in the father this week, their cluster had been a mystery. The media reports noted that all three had developed pneumonia and two had died (87M and 55M). Microblogers has suggested that deaths were due to the novel coronavirus (nCoV), which had been circulating in the Middle east, but transported to the UK via an index case on a commercial airline. However, the cases in Shanghai tested negative for nCoV.

Micobloggers then claimed that the deaths were due to influenza, which was denied. Deaths were said to be due to pneumonia caused by changing weather. The micoblogger was then arrested and fined for spreading false rumors. However, the father was H7N9 confirmed, confirming the influenza “rumor”.

Controversy did not end with the H7N9 confirmation of the father because the sons tested negative and recently WHO said no additional samples were available. Thus, the number of confirmed cases at the hospital remains at two and human to human transmission is denied.

The hospital payment suggests that the younger victim may have been infected while being treated at the hospital, and additional media reports cited additional cases at the hospital who had been H7N9 confirmed, including three deaths outside of the family cluster, as well as two cases discharged.

Sequences from the two confirmed cases were made public by the WHO Chinese Influenza Research Center. Although the sequences from the first case, A/Shanghai/1/2013, and the second case, A/Shanghai/2/2013 were related (both had PB2 E627K, a 5 amino acid deletion in N9, and H9N2 internal genes, the sequences were distinct and did not support infection of the second case by the first case. However, the presence of the other cases at the hospital may have been the source of the infection in the second case, which would involve human to human transmission (H2H) in the family cluster.

In that cluster the confirmed case had not been outside of his residence in the two weeks prior to disease onset, which was five days after one or both of his sons were hospitalized. Thus, the gap in the disease onset dates, coupled with the same symptoms and the lack of exposure by the index case strong supports H2H transmission within the family. The above payment also suggests H2H transmission may have been the cause of the infection in the second confirmed case.

Moreover, the cluster of cases at the hospital beyond the two confirmed cases and contacts suggest that the Minghang District may have been the epicenter for the outbreak. H7N9 has been detected in birds at three wet markets in the area, including one that is less than 2000 feet from the hospital (see map). Although the avian sequences are closely related to the human sequences, it is unclear of the human adaptation changes such as PB2 E627K, H7 Q226L or L226I are in the bird sequences. The genetic changes have much in common with H5N1 bird flu transmission studies.

However, the concentration of confirmed, probable, and suspect cases at the Minghang hospital suggest that considerable human transmission is occurring in the area, but only a small subset of cases are being reported. Although there are 18 confirmed cases, including 6 deaths reported to date, none of the confirmed cases have been discharged, which gives a case fatality rate of 100%.

This rate is due to a gross under-reporting / testing of milder cases, which provide evidence for sustained H2H transmission, WHO and CDC denials notwithstanding.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/04061302/H7N9_Minghang_Cluster.html
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He claims we have a first cluster
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     Albert, I see that you have now raised us to DEFCON 4.  A wise decision, as always, my friend.  John L.
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Thanks John. I was going to make an anouncement about it in General Discussion, but didn't get the chance to as of yet.  
 
There are a few factors that we need to considerwhen doing this, such as but not limited to, lack of transparency with the Chinese in the current situation, along with vaccine consideration happening, steady increase in cases, efficient bird to human infections, suspected limited h2h, etc ....
 
As opposed to raising the alert level based on the WHO guidelines, it makes more sense these days to do it based on the overall pandemic threat level. 
 
 
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H7N9: More on the two latest cases

It's 2:30 Saturday afternoon in Vancouver, 5:30 Sunday morning in China. Via Shanghai Daily, a Xinhua report: Shanghai reports 2 more cases of H7N9 bird flu virus. Excerpt:
Two more people in Shanghai have been confirmed infected with the deadly H7N9 bird flu strain that has claimed the lives of six people nationwide, local authorities said yesterday. 
Meanwhile, Nanjing, capital of Jiangsu Province, announced yesterday that it was suspending live poultry trading - the second city to do so, following Shanghai. 
And in Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang Province, officials closed a farm produce market after H7N9 was detected among birds for sale. 
Shanghai's Health and Family Planning Commission said the two male patients, one 66 years old, the other 74 developed flu symptoms late last month and were diagnosed with pneumonia over the past two days. One is a farmer and the other a retiree. 
A total of 11 people who had close contact with the two men have not shown flu symptoms, said officials. 
As of last night, China had confirmed 18 H7N9 cases - eight in Shanghai, six in Jiangsu, three in Zhejiang and one in Anhui Province - in the first known human infections of the lesser-known strain. Of these, four of those diagnosed in Shanghai and two in Zhejiang have died. 
The National Health and Family Planning Commission said yesterday that the country's H7N9 cases were isolated and there has been no sign of human-to-human transmission. 
Also yesterday, Shanghai authorities began enforcing a ban on live poultry from other parts of the country from entering the city after temporarily closing three markets to battle the H7N9 bird flu. 
The authorities have launched inspections on roads, said the Shanghai Municipal Agricultural Commission. 
Meanwhile, Nanjing yesterday ordered the suspension of all live poultry trade and the immediate shuttering of poultry markets. 
The Nanjing government announced at a press conference that it has assembled a team to lead H7N9 bird flu virus prevention and control. 
"Sales of live poultry at the three main poultry trade markets - Zijinshan, Tianyinshan and Jianye - which account for 90 percent of all poultry in the city, have been banned," said Wang Zhixi, deputy director of the Industrial and Commercial Bureau of Nanjing. 
"Meanwhile, we will ban live poultry from other places from entering the city, as well as stop transporting birds out of Nanjing," Wang added. 
And authorities in Hangzhou yesterday suspended trade of live poultry at a farm produce market after H7N9 was detected among quail sold there on Friday. 
The second person confirmed to have H7N9 in Zhejiang Province was found to have eaten quail bought from the Binsheng Agricultural and Sideline Products Market in Shangcheng District, Hangzhou City. 
Local government staff slaughtered poultry at the market yesterday.
Here's another Xinhua report on the testing in Hangzhou. I wish I knew if those quail had been visibly ill before being slaughtered and eaten. The tendency of H7N9 to hitch-hike on birds without harming them, and then to attack humans, is a disturbing one. 
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I would like to know how each person got the flu. I heard not all were exposed to birds. If not, then how? They say it is not human to human...I don't believe it. I'm glad I thought to come to this site. I haven't been here for a while and was having trouble getting up to the minute info....then I remembered I knew I could get good info here. So here I am :)
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Hi Melody. I've not been contributing much lately either - just popping in every so often to catch up. The site gets too political and contentious at times, especially when there's nothing significant on the flu radar, but this is when it really shines.
I wonder if this virus is going to go the way of H5N1 and make a dramatic entrance followed by a slow unstoppable march around the globe, or will it develop faster and go H2H in the near future? There are still a lot of unanswered questions, principally the method of it's spread, and identifying the silent hosts that are carrying it. I'm still concerned that it's been found in pigeons, as even H5N1 has been unable to do that. I guess we wait and see, and I plan to rethink my preps and reorganize what I have until we know better how this might possibly pan out.

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Hi Jacksdad...nice to see you again. :)
Yes, we need to watch this very carefully. I know I read either here or somewhere that WHO or CDC(whoever it is that makes vaccines) has started early preparations for a vaccine for this flu. I'm always afraid that they are just looking to make money and not so sure if I'd want to take a vaccine. I just don't know what to do if things get really bad...human to human...spreading worldwide I mean. Of course we'd stay home. We homeschool so that would not be a problem. Just not knowing if I'd take a vaccine or not. Seems like we never here the full or true story about ANYTHING until AFTER the fact....like how serious the pandemic would be or how dangerous the vaccine might be, etc...
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Hi Melody - nice to see you on here too. The problem with developing a vaccine this early is that even though some of us suspect limited H2H transmission, it's apparently not sustained, so it's not the strain we'd be facing in a pandemic. It might impart some immunity but it wouldn't be as effective, and the problem with diverting valuable resources from an already overwhelmed vaccine industry is the impact it would have on seasonal flu vaccine production. And we now know that we could never produce enough vaccine in time for a global outbreak, so we'd undoubtedly see the use of adjuvants in an attempt to bolster the supply. I know they have to try, but it's not a solution for a major pandemic with a high infection/mortality rate. It is good business, though...
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Hi Jacksdad and Melody...it was me I hear about the CDC on ABC news. I agree with you Jacksdad by the time the vaccine is ready it has already mutated. I just hope nothing bad happens until after mid May when my son is out of college! Self serving but oh well!

We will have to hunker down for a while after the initial wave and then hope to have a good vaccine for the second wave which will be worse. But again I know that Mother Nature will find a way to get rid of us since our world is over populated.
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I tend agree.  I believe this could possibly be on the way to mutating into a pandemic flu.  
 
As we saw during the 1918 spanish flu, it first spread efficiently from pigs and quickly mutated into a human flu.   This seems to be going in that fast evolving pattern. 
 
 
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