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H7N9 in Germany (Hamburg)

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    Posted: April 10 2013 at 12:25pm
Please translate it in English

ATM 2 Police Officers and a teatcher dead in Hamburg Germamy

http://www.epochtimes.de/mysterioese-grippefaelle-polizist-aus-schleswig-holstein-gestorben-1068923.html
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I am in Hamburg
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Hello Yomi, welcome to the forum.  Someone just posted the translated news and here it is.  Apparently it's a severe mystery flu:


A police officer from the district of Rendsburg-Eckernfa ¶rde whose disease had doctors initially abandoned mystery, died from the effects of flu. This was announced by the University Medical Center Hamburg-Eppendorf (UKE), the district spokesman Martin Schmedtje on Wednesday. The 49-year-old police officer from Bay Audorf had been hospitalized in the past week the UKE and died there on Tuesday.
Doctors and experts from the health department had been looking for the origin of his disease - was first mentioned by an unknown virus. Do not give a connection with other illnesses in the community well-Audorf it emphasized Schmedtje.


Second policeman lies further UKE
A second officer, who should also come from well-Audorf lies further in the UKE. He is now on the road to recovery, it said. He came in last week with the same symptoms as the deceased at the Hamburg University Hospital. Schaucht-Audorfs Mayor Eckhard Reese warned against scaremongering. "We are experiencing not only in our city, that the flu disease has increased over the normal number out. Therefore we should keep quiet at this stage," he said.

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Found this translation on another site.
 
Hamburg - A policeman (49) is dead Five more people to be ill. And the doctors are faced with a puzzle, given a mysterious illness series just outside Hamburg.
The Kiel Interior Minister Andreas Breitner confirmed to the "Schleswig-Holstein newspaper publisher" the death of the 49-year-old policeman. The man had died Tuesday after the total failure of all the institutions in the University Hospital Hamburg-Eppendorf (UKE).
Another policeman (38) is in danger. He is suffering from flu-like symptoms such as his dead colleague, including severe pneumonia.
A teacher from the Bay Area to be near Rendsburg Audorf also died of organ failure at UKE. Three other people from the same area, according to wrestle yet unconfirmed reports of death.
All suffer from flu-like symptoms - but the doctors do not know what they are suffering. It could be a "degenerate virus," citing the "Schleswig-Holstein newspaper publisher" a government spokesman.
District spokesman Martin Schmedtje: "The two police officers showed the same clinical picture.We do not yet know whether there is a pathogen or a pathogen that was the cause of all. "
According to current knowledge, there are no connections between the two colleagues
Police spokesman Sönke Hinrichs: "The two officers are not working at the same department, were not together in use, do not live in the same place. There is no visible connection. But of course, we are thinking about our people and trying to figure out what happened. "
Also, the hospital will establish any connection. UKE spokeswoman Christine Jähn: "Currently, the UKE no patients required intensive care with unusual pathogens. Moreover, there is no accumulation of patients from the district of Rendsburg. "
Fact: The competent health authority in Rendsburg-Eckernförde has been on since Friday. When police Neumünster hygiene instructions are issued to the officials, offered voluntary blood tests that some officials have claimed.
But what causes the deadly disease knows far nobody. Wednesday evening announced the District Rendsburg-Eckernförde: "Despite all the efforts of the participating specialists have failed to date to identify a pathogen."
The danger is, however, to be small. District spokesman Martin Schmedtje: "A recommendation for precautionary closure of public facilities by the health services is not required. General hygiene measures as useful in times of rampant flu are sufficient
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The audio file says that the Police officer and the teacher are dead and there are more sick in the city, until now they do not know which flu virus is there, but they gave the virus to the public health department, and there is a result at the end of the week.

No one is saying that it is H1N1 or any old flu!


http://www.ndr.de/wellenord/audio155275.html
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Well, the seasonal flu is usually fairly mild, plus h1n1 and h3n2 are easy to diagnose these days.  I'm curious to see what flu is severe enough to kill 1 and hospitalize the other, and making others sick.
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Rendsburg. Schacht-Audorf is fear.
"My uncle is ill with a violent fever. It goes bad very him", said a resident. He knew of three other people who were down with the same symptoms. That there is already a woman had died, he had heard also. It is apparently a teacher. "We initially thought thats a severe flu. "But who knows what it really is," the man said. Thoughts on the many cases make themselves seriously.

The Health Department in Rendsburg is in constant contact with the UKE. "We've got still no evidence of a pathogen from Hamburg," said Authority spokesman Martin Schmedtje, who stressed that it "is consider very covered in the Office". Both policemen were obviously has been hospitalized with pneumonia. As Sahil pointed out, the number of reported cases of flu in the region with 300 cases is extremely high in March 2013 – in the comparison month of 2012, there were only 30.

The Hamburg specialists have still no evidence of a suspected pathogen
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The H1N1 and H3N2 flu is in Germany since 3 weeks most subside according to RKI influenza...
Germany is now the same away as China...they don't say what is going...



http://influenza.rki.de/Diagrams.aspx?agiRegion=0
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I wouldn't worry.  In the U.S., we have the CDC and the WHO (u.s. loc) with Greg Hartl, and they're listening and praising the Chinese for playcating everyone.  Hell, the WHO is still asking the Chinese officials if they can send a team over, lol.  Damn near comical. 
 
The CDC has done absolutely nothing. MIA. The WHO and the Chinese officals are all over this thing though and doing a great job so far.  Confused
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 Great news.

This will make my day.


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You know what? All theses god-damn motherCensored are not moving a toe only because of economical and political Censored purposes.

Believe me, the elites have more informations than us, and they are ready to protect themselves if something happens.

They want to regulate the population pyramid from below. They protect themselves efficiently, and let the masses at risk, and in the uncertainty.
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A 49 year old policeman is dead, 5 other persons are ill and doctors are puzzled by this mysterious disease just outside of Hamburg. Andreas Breitner, Minister of the Interior, confirmed to the "Schleswig Holstein newspaper" the death of the 49-year-old policeman at the University Medical Center Hamburg-Eppendorf (UKE) on Tuesday (9 Apr 2013), after multi-organ failure. Another policeman, aged 38 years is in critical condition. He is suffering from similar flu symptoms, including severe pneumonia. A teacher from the Schacht Audorf area near Rendsburg has also died of multi-organ failure in the UKE, and according to unconfirmed reports, 3 other persons from the same region are seriously ill. All are suffering from flu-like symptoms but the doctors do not know what disease is affecting them. It could be a "degenerated virus" (?mutated), the "Schleswig Holstein" newspaper reporter quotes" an official.

District spokesperson Martin Schmedtje said: "Both policemen showed the same clinical picture. However, we do not know yet whether there is a pathogen or whether a pathogen was actually the cause." After investigation there are no known connections between both colleagues. Police spokesperson Sonke Hinrichs said, "the 2 policemen did not work in the same agency, were not on duty together, do not live in the same place. There is no visible connection, but naturally we are working together to try to find out what has happened." The hospital is also investigating a possible link. UKE spokesperson Christine Jaehn said, "At present no patients with unusual infectious diseases are being treated in the UKE intensive care unit. Moreover, no accumulation of patients exists in the Rendsburg area." Public health authorities in Rendsburg-Eckernfoerde have been activated since Friday (5 Apr 2013). But so far nobody knows what this deadly disease is. On Wednesday evening (10 Apr 2013) the Rendsburg-Eckernfoerde District Administrator announced, " Despite the efforts of the specialists involved we have not been able to identify a pathogen." However, the danger has been estimated as low. District spokesman Martin Schmedtje said, "a recommendation from the health services to close public facilities as a precaution is not necessary. General hygiene measures taken in times of rampant influenza, are sufficient."

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130411-38819-DEU
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This is getting scary, either someone from Germany was in China, or this virus is airborne.  What do you think,  I'm getting obsessed and really scared.  Confused
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Hamburg is the largest ship port in Europe,
the police worked at the Customs Office and have contact to ship from China...10000 of them every day come from China,
they do not recognize the Virus,
they are afraid of restriction
trade and money are more important as people
2 or 4 cases they will give nothing to...
only if they can it no longer deny for example explode the contagions

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Yomi - please keep an eye (and ear) out for 'flu news' in Germany. Unfortunately, my German is limited to "ein bier bitte".
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I don't know why, however this virus creeps me out more and the situation in China. Perhaps it's because Hamburg is a port city. Yomi thanks for keeping us updated.I'm going off to reinvent org my preps.
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I did find this. But this was Feb 15. Has anyone hear anything new on Germany??
 

Germany discovers bird flu case on poultry farm

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HAMBURG (Reuters) - German authorities said a case of H5N1 bird flu had been discovered during initial tests on a poultry farm in the eastern state of Brandenburg.

The case was discovered in a duck farm, which was carrying out its own tests, the Brandenburg state agriculture ministry said on Friday.

The H5N1 virus mainly affects birds but occasionally jumps to people. Experts fear it may mutate into a form that could spread easily among humans, who have no natural immunity against it.

The initial finding was confirmed by a state laboratory, and final tests are currently being carried out, the state ministry said.

The farm has been sealed off and its poultry will be culled, the statement said.

The cause is unknown and an investigation has started.

Bird flu is currently present in Asian countries including China, Cambodia and Indonesia. It has also been reported in wild birds in parts of Europe.

On January 29, the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) said governments must not allow financial constraints caused by the current global economic crisis to stop them from keeping their guard up against the spread of bird flu.

(Reporting by Michael Hogan; editing by Jane Baird)

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I contacted the major, no reply yet.
He complains on the webpage about incorrect and sensational reporting in the media.
Strange was the article : It'was the flu, problem solved. Not what flu, nothing about the other cases. There is an official promed request for information
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exactly, they say it is flu, no word which, I think they don't know it and have passed it to the test, I think that if there is an import by H7N9 from China on ships in the port of Hamburg is, and they say it only if there would be other diseases because they do not want the business and the trade including suffer, they wait now and if they appear more sick it will say.
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H7N9 is very unlikely with so few cases in China
12,19,14  reported flu-deaths in Germany in weeks 13,14,15
3,5,3,2,3,1  flu cases reported in Rendsburg/Eckernförde in weeks 10,..,15
the death was in the newspapers on Apr.10, week 15
 
in week 15 in Germany:
3 deaths from H1N1
5 deaths from A?
3 deaths from B
1 death from H3
2 deaths from flu-?
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Yi-yah. Are there also any soil manganese or selenium anomalies to take note of in the area? 
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In Hegenauer's Chemotaxonomie der Pflanzen, Band XIb-2, p. 280, he treats the Indigofera. We choose Indigofera heterantha because of one of its constituents, acacetin. Because prion studies were carried out at Pullman, Washington, and because remains of the giant camel, Megatylopus have been found on the area, the Legumonisae are of special interest. It is a region known for lentil growing (Legumes) and Megatyolpus stood 14-16 ft. tall and ate out of trees much like a giraffe. Some of these trees were undoubtedly Acacia (Legumonisae).
 
'Indigofera heterantha Wall. ex Brandis - Strauch; im Himalaja weitverbreitet. Bluehende Zweige (coll. Muree Hills, Pakistan) wurden in Blaetter und Blueten verteilt; aus beiden konnten nach Hydrolyse Protocatechu- und Gentisinsaeure und aus Blaettern zusaetzlich 4-Methoxyzimtsaeure isoliert werden; Blatthydrolysate lieferten ausserdem 0,06% q, 0,06% k, 0,02% Fisetin, 0,07% Cy und 0,05% D. Isoquercetrin und die Flavone Ap und Acacetin und Sitosterin und Ursolsaeure isoliert.'
 
The ursolic acid resonates with ursodeoxycholic acid, and thus withl antiviral activity (see Pubmed: ursodeoxycholic[AND]virus). It also links to hibernation in bears, known to recycle their urine during such times. Our link to ginkgo flavonoids andits use as phytomedicine for Alzheimer's is also linked to Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia in fish: serum amyloid (SAA). Thus we come closer to plaque-forming physiologies of prions in the host. In addition, both the camelpoxvirus genome and the smallpoxvirus genome are more similar to each other than any other known viruses. Like equids, all camelids originated in North America.
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Found this interesting:

There is a high security virus laboratory in hamburg:

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This was from 09.04.2013

In shaft Audorf fear is spreading. The residents in the 4500-strong community feel insecure. "My uncle is suffering from a severe fever. He is doing very badly, "said one resident. He knew of three other people who prostrate subject with the same symptoms. That a woman had already died, he had heard. This is obviously a teacher. "We thought at first, which is a severe influenza. But who knows what it really is, "said the man he make serious thought about the many cases.

The health department in Rendsburg is in constant contact with the UKE. "We have to get from Hamburg no evidence of a pathogen," said spokesman Martin Schmedtje authorities, who stressed that "in the office keep a low profile." Both policemen were apparently admitted with pneumonia. How Schmedtje stressed that the number of reported cases of flu in the region with 300 cases in March 2013 was extremely high - in the same month in 2012 there were only 30

The Hamburg Specialists do not have any evidence of a suspected pathogen. As a possible cause also the reportable Q fever came again this week. "But so far no case has been made known to us," said Schmedtje. Last year there were 23 reports in the country, where cows were diagnosed in 2013 there were only three. "Maybe it will cause the end of the week to give certainty," said the spokesman authorities.

The Late on Tuesday police officer is ill four weeks ago and died of a multiple organ failure. The younger officer who is the UKE in the ICU, lit alleged to be two weeks ago. Interior Minister Andreas Breitner has responded to the news with deep grief and the widow and relatives expressed its deep sympathy. "I know the fellow personally. He was for many years in the city service where I'm at home, "said the minister. They left behind many questions, and the fingers crossed and praying for the sick colleague from the other Rendsburg police station.


http://www.kn-online.de/Lokales/Rendsburg-Eckernfoerde/Polizist-stirbt-an-mysterioesem-Erreger
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