Note This Day - CDC Dir. Makes Declaration

Just read last night they are discouraging the public from wearing them because the US supply is ok but might get depleted to the point where there are not enough masks, etc. for medical staff. Looking for link.

Well, if it's good for first responders and front line staff, it's good for me. You can take your chances CRS. Cheap price to pay for an added measure of safety, in my opinion..

I find it interesting that well the government in one hand tells us it's not necessary, on the other hand are trying to secure supplies.. the Chinese military is now guarding face mask plants in China, and have labeled them as vital military defense goods.Hmmm.

And it's not yet proven the transmission routes of this coronavirus. Experts say it's primarily respiratory droplets but it could potentially be aerosol. Again, just a small measure of extra safety if necessary. Better do minimize social contact than rely upon a respirato, if sustained community spread is confirmed

I don't belive Chuck would lie to us. If that is his 'official' polition, then that is the current actual viewpoint of the Government.

I think the whole government is a bit overconfident. But that is my opinion.

As to masks, far less useful than self isolation - just look at how many medical staff have caught this. I still have some and I have watched the videos of correct use and practice makes perfect*. But if medically trained people can still catch this whilst masked, so can I.

If this does go south, and I don't know yet if or when it will, I will be relying mostly on SIP. The mask will be for unavoidable contact use only (like hospital appointments).




* You need to know how to fit it.
How to test your fit.
How to remove it.

I'm not suggesting CRS is not being truthful, I'm just saying I disagree that a mask is totally "worthless" "or double worthless" for the general public. It's a rather extreme statement in my opinion, but that's just his opinion, to which he is entitled to have and share.

I agree with Chuck. Facemasks are useless either way.   No matter what you do, if there is community spread, very few containment suits on the planet would help.

Also - note the... is not spreading in the community "at this time". That is true, but an open-ended statement. It may very well be only a matter of time before community spread. This thing is a slow-mover, and primarily spread by surface contact. It's a slow moving wave as it appears.

It currently loves the ACE2 receptor binding for Asians, but let's just hope it doesn't adapt further. Although the Middle East cases with the potential virulence that rapidly increased in the two cases resulting in death is a big question mark. Who knows what China was messing with in that bio-lab and the accidental release. This virus is VERY robust. Sticks on surfaces for 28 days? A pure super bug.



    

Ditto.

I'm an ex smoker

Us both: (24 years, I was a chainsmoker, 60-80 a day.)

Have Been quiet out of respect, nobody truly knows whats is going to happen, or how.

   If a few pounds of extra food makes you feel safe do it.

   If you want to have some masks, or personal protection in a closet/ basement then do it.

   If you need or want piece of mind, and can afford it, and it's not a burden then do it.

   If you don't want to be "that person/ family" ill prepared for some unforeseen calamity then do something about it.

   There is no law against being prepared...

   There is a reason the Government has guidelines for emergency preparedness, and there are many different scenarios for which people prepare/ make a plan for it.

   As to the mask thing, I hope everyone takes the doctors advice....more stuff on the shelf for people who want it.

   As to "completely" depending on government advice....well all i have to say is there are plans, drills, past and present, for which the government has prepared to such a degree, that ALL possibility's have been studied including, but not limited to public reaction/response, from panic responses to news/information and actions and behaviors up to and including steering the public message, tapping into or tamping down of herd mentality due to said information......

   I hope CRS is correct. And as has been stated, all advice is either personal advice, or best information advice.....another option is to make your own decisions based on the best information before you, and your comfort level for risk.

   As far as "official" government policy/ advice, there is a checkered past with regard to past timely public danger information dissemination, this is undeniable.

   Sometimes to much information is dangerous to the public good, CRS can verify that, its in the play book, planning and computer modeling etc:

   One of the greatest phrases stolen from the Russian language, and appropriated by President Ronald Reagan was Trust but Verify!

pheasant wrote: Have Been quiet out of respect, nobody truly knows whats is going to happen, or how.    If a few pounds of extra food makes you feel safe do it.    If you want to have some masks, or personal protection in a closet/ basement then do it.    If you need or want piece of mind, and can afford it, and it's not a burden then do it.    If you don't want to be "that person/ family" ill prepared for some unforeseen calamity then do something about it.    There is no law against being prepared...    There is a reason the Government has guidelines for emergency preparedness, and there are many different scenarios for which people prepare/ make a plan for it.    As to the mask thing, I hope everyone takes the doctors advice....more stuff on the shelf for people who want it.    As to "completely" depending on government advice....well all i have to say is there are plans, drills, past and present, for which the government has prepared to such a degree, that ALL possibility's have been studied including, but not limited to public reaction/response, from panic responses to news/information and actions and behaviors up to and including steering the public message, tapping into or tamping down of herd mentality due to said information......    I hope CRS is correct. And as has been stated, all advice is either personal advice, or best information advice.....another option is to make your own decisions based on the best information before you, and your comfort level for risk.    As far as "official" government policy/ advice, there is a checkered past with regard to past public danger information dissemination, this is undeniable.    Sometimes to much information is dangerous to the public good, CRS can verify that, its in the play book, planning and computer modeling etc:    One of the greatest phrases stolen from the Russian language, and appropriated by President Ronald Reagan was Trust but Verify!

Great post.

"Trust but verify"? Indeed...

Good luck with that one with the CCP.

Albert wrote: I agree with Chuck. Facemasks are useless either way.   No matter what you do, if there is community spread, very few containment suits on the planet would help.

History may not be kind to Dr. Redfield. I made several posts about this. As I mentioned and feared. History is repeating all over again. The US did NOT learn the lessons of Wuhan!

It's clear that like China, and Iran, there is a political calculus to this. It's unconscionable. The White House has issued gag orders to Dr. Fauci and likely others. Suppressed and overly limited testing and information.
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