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A news blackout?

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    Posted: January 06 2006 at 7:05pm
So quiet....no news.  Does anyone else suspect a "news blackout?"  Maybe until they know for sure if it is or is not passing human-to-human.
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I wonder if it's not the time difference?
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The next stories that we might start hearing could be bad.   I think some big things are going down tomorrow.  If the amount of patients has doubled, then that's it ....   Tomorrow will dictate our future, IMO.   

It's imperative that we find out by tomorrow if the number of patients has increased.  Our very survival depends on knowing if it's spreading so we can get a jump on it.   Of course, the WHO is going to keep us in the dark for a little bit so we will lose some valuable time.    Leave it to the WHO! 

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Istanbul has a population of roughly 13,000,000 and a large slum population.  Slum as in third world slum, not slum as in Cabrini Green, both dangerous to your health but for very different reasons.
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Here is a LonleyPlanet bb for the middle east area...this link is english language and mostly western tourist types but might be worth a peek throughout the day to see if anything is popping.

http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/categories.cfm?catid=18

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For anyone who is interested;

 On the  forum under H5N1 title, there is a guy from Istanbul who has been posting keeping everyone as current as possible. He goes by the name of Oric. I've been popping back and forth to see his entries. He has been calling the hospital down there to get as much info as possible on the status of the patients etc.

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We haven't heard anything about the condition of the patients, as well as information regarding new patients in over 2 days.  Niman is doing a great job by keeping us up to date, but even his information of new cases seems to be delayed by over 24 hours.    

They have definitely capped all news going out of Van.  By the time the WHO figures everything out, we could be in trouble at this rate.  What if we have hundreds of new cases and we don't know??  

The WHO waited since 1997 before they really did anything about this global threat.  They certainly didn't advise the world to properly stockpile antivirals back in 1997, or 2003 for that matter.

The WHO is about to hammer the final nail in the coffin unless they update us on new cases right now.  It's imperative that we know the rate it's spreading by finding out about possible new cases.  We've already lost almost 2 days now because of this.  

This is all because the WHO doesn't want to risk a panic.  What they don't realize is that a panic at this point is a small price to pay for saving millions pof lives.  Plus, nobody will panic anyway!  Nobody even knows the BF even exsists because they have done such a poor job with educating and warning the public.    

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The WHO is doing their damndest to keep a lid on this.  They don't want a global panic.
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.... I agree.  And what should we assume by their silence?   They certainly don't have anything promising to report that would calm people down, therefore, the situation is probably only getting worse in my opinion.   But how much worse is the question?  If they now have over one hundred new cases, we're in trouble in my opinion.  And I mean serious trouble. 

This blackout is coming at the most crucial time, IMO.  This icould be our only chance to prepare - and to properly warn our family and friends.

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India was so blatant in their coverup attempt. They just called it "Mystery Illness" and let it go at that.  If you want to see what it does to animals, look up the Ukraine story and photo from months ago. It was the only photo that was leaked to the world of what it does to animals.

http://en.for-ua.com/news/2005/11/02/101015.html#comments
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We might not know anything until the worldwide simultaneous outbreaks begin.  If the virus mutated, we will see what will appear to be simultaneous oubreaks around the world including the U.S.  These few days of being kept in the dark will allow it time to make its way through the airports before we know what's even going on.  If it in fact mutated, we will see simultaneous outbreaks everywhere around the world including the U.S in a very short period of time ... possibly just a few days.   IMO    

If we knew the current number of new cases, we would have a lot better idea of what is going on.  I would personally plan on the worst case scenario at this point - in case the worst case scenario actually happens.

The cases of new infections at Van grew exponentially for 3 straight days. We should almost assume that it's still spreading at that rate by virtue of their silence and the media blackout.  

    

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I am trying to stay calm and collective.  you guys aren't helping me any.

just putting finishing touches on preps. Orderd heirloom seeds today. almost forgot. what do ya dowhen the prepared foods run out?

anyway In louisiana developing plans to get back to the Tennessee home of my preps by either this Friday or end of January it this boils over.

If I am careful can I wait till end of January to leave temporary job site here in Louisiana for Tennessee?



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My prediction, the disease has mutated and it has made the jump for human to human transmission.   The reason I think this is because of the huge clusters being reported.  There is even a family cluster of 10.   Unless of course all 10 family members were "playing" with  the same chicken head.   Maybe the whole family participated in the "Catch the Dead Chicken Head" game?  I doubt all of the 10 family members played with dead chicken heads at the exact same time   I also doubt that all 10 ate infected chicken at the exact same time.   Plus, we have multiple large family clusters?     The only way clusters like this would technically be possible, IMO,  is that if the disease went h2h.

My best guess at the moment is that we could be in real serious trouble.  If it did make the jump, it will be in the U.S in just a few days....

Until we hear any news (update on new cases), assume the worst and everybody should do their final preps right now and have it completed no later than Monday.  Put your final plans into action now, IMO.    

This may sound drastic, but until we get an update, I would also keep your kids out of school for the next few days just to see how this whole thing plays out .... Remember, we will not get ANY second chances with this thing so be sure to be at your best at all times and don't make ANY mistakes.  One mistake .... or one wrong move on your part could be costly to a family member.  It's almost like playing chess..... We have to try to be one step ahead of it at all times.  I was a 2 time state champion chess player by the way.       



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Maybe the WHO should supply various games to the families in Turkey so they stop playing with dead chicken heads so much.    They should have brought some footballs or something over there LOL.   That probably still wouldn't work though because they can't eat the football once they're done playing with it.   Plus, I'm sure dead chicken heads are a lot more fun! 

I wonder if they play hacky-chicken head over there?



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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

  There is even a family cluster of 10.   Unless of course all 10 family members were "playing" with  the same chicken head.   Maybe the whole family participated in the "Catch the Dead Chicken Head" game?  I doubt all of the 10 family members played with dead chicken heads at the exact same time   .

You're right Albert, one was refereeing, two were cheerleaders. one running "sick chicken concessions. That's why the WHO is headed there to see if it qualifies as an olympic sport. "Catch the Dead Chicken Head"



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Hey Corn .... you haven't joined the map at the bottom of the forum yet?   Don't worry! It only asks your zip code so your prep (stash) is safe LOL.  

Also, did you get your pneumonia vaccination yet?  It will hold off the secondary bacterial pneumonia if you do.  Although you will still get sick, at least you won't die.  

 

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tried joining a few times when it first came out. got busy and haven't tried again. planning to. been slammed.
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I guarantee you that you can join it in less than 30 seconds total time.  It only asks for two things.  Your name and zip code.  And that's it.   And they only have one screen.  They made it too easy .... just try it! LOL  



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Sickening.
Since I am from Europe, whats the deal?
NOTHING.
Its not important until WHO confirms a cluster, a real cluster not your imagined something.
And then: it better happens in a well somewhat civilized country under surveillance? Unlikely but that would still be the better option.

Vietnam had thousands of outbreaks many dead victims and you are pushin panic buttons?
Are you joking or feeling sick?
I stop that thing and keep it in Europe so that you sleep well for the next weeks, promised.
Individual preparation is mandatory
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The WHO needs a few days, even if they hurry. Think ybout how one would identify a cluster.
You cannot?
Well thats the reason why you do not understand. It could well take a few days for them to find the first priliminary results. And it could take easily two weeks before they can confirm and be really sure. and before they go public with alarming news they will make very sure that it is as close as possible.

You are just phantasizing about what the WHO wants or does not want.

Sick with paranoia the whole story.
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It is the weekend here..and this always happens they have their days off also..
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