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Is this real or anarchy group stirring up trouble? - Event Date: November 06 2021 - November 20 2021 |
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Usk
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Posted: November 07 2021 at 6:20am |
https://thinkcivics.com/procter-gamble-employees-issue-warning-to-american-consumers/ Pand G employees message to consumers |
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carbon20
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It won't be long before you will have to prove vaccination before you get health insurance,or you won't be eligible for medical care/treatment.... So I guess above is antivaxers up to no good...... Take care all 😷😉💉 |
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CRS, DrPH
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I'm OK with that. Unvaccinated people are swamping US hospitals, displacing folks who need services for heart attacks, childbirth etc. My policy = if you resist vaccination and get sick, there is a tent in the hospital parking lot where, maybe, someone will be out to treat you. Enjoy your stay. |
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Dutch Josh
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DJ, I have been a member of the largest NL trade union for over 25 years...Here in NL also discussion on "rights". Does the employer has a right to know the vaccination status of his/her workers ? Can an employer demand his/her workers get vaccinated ? I strongly advise all people to get vaccinated...I believe in communication and respect-NOT confrontation ! So I agree with the viewpoint of my trade union-workers have the basic right to decide if they want to get vaccinated or not, inform their co-workers or not... But it is a difficult discussion-and yes-not getting a vaccine may mean less care...simply because care has reached its limits... |
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carbon20
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I don't have a problem with the unvaccinated, I do have a problem with them when they get really sick ,putting health workers under serious stress because of their ignorance/lack of care for others.... Wonders what the union's think of putting their members under stress and danger ??? Probably want extra Hazzard pay....lol Take care all 😷😉💉 |
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Dutch Josh
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carbon20, Maybe the union-point is WHO decides on WHAT...If Governments make vaccines mandatory (in some sectors-or by now-in general) it is something different then when employers make such demands... But-again-lots of countries are allready at over 85% vaccinations-12 y/o+-by non-mandatory vaccination strategy...So; it ain't what you say, it's the way that you say it...It ain what you do, it's the way that you do it...that's what gets results... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_kjctTbMHA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_kjctTbMHA ; The Specials + BananaRama = Fun Boy Three and its a wonderful thing (Stay happy=staying healthy !) |
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WitchMisspelled
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Getting back to the original subject matter, IMHO, I think it is P&G union and not some anarchist troll. I think they're hoping the impact would be as great as it has been at the airlines, but I don't see how it could be. Unless sabotage were involved or the Union strikes and strike breakers were brought in for manufacturing. As far as I can see it's all so much sabre rattling. Much like the sabre rattling that happened here with police, fire, sanitation and ems here in NYC. The issue is, a municipality CAN require vaccinations. They have for years and it's never been a SCOTUS matter. Other than the rare religious exception, kids must be vaccinated before they enter school. I'm not sure what the difference is if a corporation requires vaccination before employees enter the work place. Perhaps there isn't which is why SCOTUS keeps kicking this question back to the lower courts. |
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carbon20
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All children here have to be fully vaccinated before they start school ,this was before covid..... I find the whole antivax thing "inane"...... We are in a world where a footballer consultants a radio "shockjock" whether or not to be vaccinated ? Seriously...... Take care all 😷😉💉 |
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Usk
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Wow wait a minute . Children are vaccinated with known and proven vaccines when they are babies that have been throughly vetted. You are asking to jab them with a vaccine only tested on less then 10 k world wide kids!!! I say err on the side of caution dont be the first lemming before the cliff |
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WitchMisspelled
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MMR and Polio weren't known and proven when first given. I remember first hand my mother questioning my doctor about Rubella vaccinations before entering kindergarten and that was three years after it was released. In fact, if I remember my history correctly, Salk took a chitload of heat for developing and releasing an experimental vaccine for Polio using live virus. But he developed a way to keep the virus from reproducing. I'm not sure how the mRNA vaccines are more dangerous. It's fully vetted by the FDA for children. |
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CRS, DrPH
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My first memory of the Salk live polio vaccine was that it was pink liquid on a sugar cube!! Much better than a jab in the ass!! mRNA vaccines are beyond brilliant, they are transformational. "Traditional" vaccines use dead virus particles, weakened live virus or other antigens to stimulate our immune system. mRNA vaccines do it from the inside-out, programing our healthy cells to generate the precise antigens needed for a robust immune response. This is why the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have out-performed the J&J vaccine, which relies upon an actual, living virus to generate the immune response. Real world testing will likely show that the J&J vaccine, followed by an mRNA booster, is the best "mix and match" combination. |
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EdwinSm,
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Mine was in the left arm, not that I remember it, but the scars are still there. |
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carbon20
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I still got scar.....mmmmm🤔 me wonders if I can sue someone for scaring me for life ,it's had a huge effect on my ability to become a billionaire.....lol Sorry.....😅 Take care all 😷😉💉 |
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