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    Posted: December 15 2021 at 1:52pm
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-covid-surge-shows-overwhelming-cost-of-being-unvaccinated-america/

It's extremely interesting that the latest UK national official covid data shows an entirely different scenario as to hospitalization rates between vaxxed and nonvaxxed. It shows the vaxxed are 151.7% more likely to seek emergency care with 1.32% of vaxxed covid cases presenting for emergency care as opposed to .87% of non vaxxed covid cases presenting for emergency care.

Given the distinct similarities between the UK and the US and the fact the dominant virus is of the same variant in both countries it's rather odd. 

But then again the difference might well be the UK does an outstanding and thorough job of collecting and publishing it's complete covid data and the same can definitely not be said of the US.  A complete picture is always better than just a fragment. Just like actual data is better than just an MSM narrative article.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1032859/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_45.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3ovS_LZuk6hh0wF2MWP08HGPOekcKCfDp4q5EVzeEAXVS_J0spMEHSMo4

And then there is the stand alone sentence in the article.  U.S. hospitals almost always run close to the edge of capacity.

It's also interesting to note they don't make a comparison to flu seasons in the past regarding hospital capacity as many is the year when the flu season has maxed out or exceeded hospital capacity in the US. But that information wouldn't help elicit the desired response the article was designed for now would it.

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Dr John Campbell said yesterday that the US needs to watch the UK carefully because what was happening in the Uk today would be happening in the US in 2-3 weeks time.

Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

Dr John Campbell said yesterday that the US needs to watch the UK carefully because what was happening in the Uk today would be happening in the US in 2-3 weeks time.

Yes the UK does seem to be a window into the near future as far as covid goes for the US.

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I think that is true historically but with the speed of spread for the big O, I am thinking we have about a week!

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It's been quite obvious,from the start of this pandemic, given this is a "Novel " virus that we will forever be playing catch up,

You only have to see how flu vaccines are forecast year in year out,it's a bit of a guessing game,but vaccine makers have a bit of a heads up they look at what's happening in each hemisphere during winter,

With Covid we don't have that advantage ,it hasn't settled into a pattern,or has it ???

There are  many, many mutations,who knows what's happening in the animal world,(is anyone looking ?)

I know zoos are scrambling for a vaccine for the animals....

 Covid is not just affecting the human population

I said in previous posts,this is not going to end for a good while yet.....

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