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    Posted: October 17 2022 at 12:20pm

This is complete madness. This is what scientists should be banned from doing. Just because you can it doesn't mean you should.

This new strain they've created in a lab has an 80% kill rate!!!!!!!!

Idiots!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11323677/Outrage-Boston-University-CREATES-Covid-strain-80-kill-rate.html

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See also [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/deaths/chimeric-sars-cov-2-variant-with-a-mortality-rate-of-80/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/deaths/chimeric-sars-cov-2-variant-with-a-mortality-rate-of-80/

Scientists undertake a gain-of-function experiment and create a chimeric recombinant SARS-CoV-2 virus with 80% mortality rate in mice.

We generated chimeric recombinant SARS-CoV-2 encoding the S gene of Omicron in the backbone of an ancestral SARS-CoV-2 isolate and compared this virus with the naturally circulating Omicron variant.

The Omicron S-bearing virus robustly escapes vaccine-induced humoral immunity, mainly due to mutations in the receptor binding motif (RBM), yet unlike naturally occurring Omicron, efficiently replicates in cell lines and primary-like distal lung cells.

In K18-hACE2 mice, while Omicron causes mild, non-fatal infection, the Omicron S-carrying virus inflicts severe disease with a mortality rate of 80%. This indicates that while the vaccine escape of Omicron is defined by mutations in S, major determinants of viral pathogenicity reside outside of S.

Preprint: Role of spike in the pathogenic and antigenic behavior of SARS-CoV-2 BA.1 Omicron

DJ; Gain of function-studies are "highly discussed" and high bio-risk...however NOT doing those studies may leave holes in knowing the potential risks...(computer models have their limits...).

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Boston University Pushes Back on Claims of New ‘Deadly' COVID Strain

Reports on Monday had said the school's National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories had created a new, deadlier version of the virus

By Susan Tran, Marc Fortier and Michael Rosenfield

There's some friction between the federal government and Boston University researchers after the publication of a new COVID-19 study.

BU said reports by some publications saying they had created a new "deadly" COVID strain are misleading and untrue.

“First, this research is not gain-of-function research, meaning it did not amplify the Washington state SARS-COV-2 virus strain (original virus from 2020) or make it more dangerous,” BU said in a statement, calling online reports Monday "false and inaccurate."

"In fact, this research made the virus replicate less dangerous," the university said.

A university representative told NBC10 Boston Tuesday that, had their been "evidence that the research was gaining function, under both [National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases] and our own protocols, we would immediately stop and report. 

The university's National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories have been studying the omicron variant and the original strain. They reportedly wanted to see if omicron, while highly contagious, was still less likely to cause severe illness.

Researchers were working with this hybrid virus where they took the spike protein of omicron and attached it to the original strain.

In mice, they found this new fused version killed 80% of mice infected. But that's lower than the 100% that died of the original strain. So their conclusion is that it's not the omicron spike protein itself that causes the virus to spread so easily, but other proteins. 

BU researchers say identifying those proteins will help better diagnose and treat COVID.

"This was a statement taken out of context for the purposes of sensationalism," National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories Director Ronald Corley, also a BU professor, told the school Tuesday , “and it totally misrepresents not only the findings, but [also] the purpose of the study."

The study caught off guard the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which helps fund BU research — though not this study, the school noted, explaining that a courtesy to the incident reflected funding that helped fund tools and platforms used in the project.

The university said the research was reviewed and approved by the Institutional Biosafety Committee, which consists of scientists and members of the local community, and that the Boston Public Health Commission had also approved the research.

“Ultimately, this research will provide a public benefit, by leading to better, targeted therapeutic interventions to help fight against future pandemics," the university's statement said.


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Personally I find this "gain of function" type experiment to be terrifying. I think it's some kind of vanity project for those involved. Just because you can do something it doesn't mean you should do it.

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This is super scary!  I get studying the virus so that they can come up with solutions but where is the stopping point?  Scary.  And people are bat shit crazy already with all the mass shootings and such...imagine if someone in a lab is crazy and does crazy shit with it!  ugh!

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That's what I thought! I can just imagine some disenfranchised person who works at that lab thinking they'd like to cause chaos. Thinking "my life is awful so let's bring everyone down to my level". Afterall we're seeing that behaviour is all sectors of society anyway, what makes lab work any different?

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These are two interesting websites for manipulation of the virus:

https://twitter.com/Quay_dr

https://twitter.com/gdemaneuf


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This report implicates Ralph Baric's University of North Carolina lab for synthetically creating SARS-CoV-2 before the pandemic began, but fails to mention that the SHC014 virus was given to Baric by Peter Daszak, who collected it in Ap 2011 from along an expressway near the southern shore of Lake Dian, Yunnan Province. This is the most current cutting-edge paper for either the nature- or lab-origin hypothesis.

https://anandamide.substack.com/p/a-deep-dive-on-typeiis-restriction





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Good find.

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badger, you have to have a subscription to read it, can you post the article?

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No, you can read it through the subscription prompt. Also at Twitter, and until Musk fixes Twitter, you can simply click on "login" when you get the prompt and then click again to eliminate the prompt. It may pop up again, amd just repeat the procedure.

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None seem to have mentioned that Omcron is the first variant to sport a mutation in this position of the heptad repeat region: N969K. This is why it matters:


Post # 1,267 / Omicron N969K

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/covid-19s-biological-politics.854736/page-64

'Boston University used the Omicron spike.'

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KiwiMum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2022 at 11:59am

Badger2 that's very interesting. I was reading in the UK press that a radio DJ died live on air, and then about 5 days later another radio DJ died in his sleep from an aortic aneurysm. So your link to the aorta and Omicron is very telling. It's just not natural for all these people to be dying suddenly. 

I've lost count of the number of deaths in young and middle aged people that I've read about where the article says they died peacefully in their sleep or from natural causes.

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