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DJ, Unconfirmed most but the news from the Middle East seems to be very, very bad...

South Lebanon/Golan Heights may have become another frontline. Lots of missiles/drones hitting targets all over Israel.

NATO very likely -most- seem to come to "help" Israel...Türkiye may have to make up its mind...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html 

No rules or courts for the IDF....

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/outrage-after-israel-told-gazans-flee-egypt-then-bombed-lone-border-crossing[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/outrage-after-israel-told-gazans-flee-egypt-then-bombed-lone-border-crossing 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-not-battlefield-its-massacre-israeli-army-takes-foreign-press-scenes-kibbutz[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-not-battlefield-its-massacre-israeli-army-takes-foreign-press-scenes-kibbutz 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/supportive-waving-palestinian-flag-could-be-criminal-offense-uk-home-secretary-warns[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/supportive-waving-palestinian-flag-could-be-criminal-offense-uk-home-secretary-warns

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-now-actively-fighting-secondary-front-northern-border-hezbollah-idf[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-now-actively-fighting-secondary-front-northern-border-hezbollah-idf 

Friday may see very major protests in most (western) countries...public opinion may be completely different from what a political elite is doing....

Things can escalate very fast...going down the hill high speed...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/ (pro-western)

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DJ, lots of false info on the Israel crisis...YES-Dutch air force planes landed in Israel...but they were military Airbus planes picking up Dutch people trying to get out of Israel...Maybe those planes did bring some (medical) supplies on the way in...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html ;

U.S. Plans To Ethnically Cleanse Gaza

This is, presumably, the U.S.-Israeli plan for the Palestinian people in Gaza:

Harry Sisson @harryjsisson - 1:44 UTC · Oct 11, 2023

Amazing: President Biden is working on a plan with other countries that would allow civilians to safely leave Gaza and cross the border into Egypt. This is great news. President Biden is making sure that innocent people don’t die due to the actions of Hamas. That’s leadership.

No, it is not leadership. It is ethnic cleansing, a war crime disguised as humanitarian gesture. It is ethnic cleansing of people who's land has been stolen by Zionist settlers. These people would have no right of return to the homes and land they once owned. People who have been put into an open air prison, who have no access to electricity, water and food and are currently under intense attacks.

Egypt, the only country where they potentially could be moved to, is already bankrupt. It can not even provide for its own people. Two million new people from Gaza, all poor and some of them radicalized, would undoubtedly unbalance the Egyptian state.

Should such a plan be put into action it would guarantee that the resistance axis, Hizbullah and various other Sunni and Shia groups in the Middle East, would step in. The would attack Israel to prevent such a move.

The U.S. thinks it can deter resistance action by threatening to move in with its own forces. That's why the USS Herald Ford, its newest carrier, was moved into the Eastern Mediterranean. Rumors have it that a second carrier will come in too.

But the resistance can not be deterred by that. The last time the U.S. tried to intervene in Lebanon it ended up with 241 dead Marines and had to retreat in shame. Hizbullah at that time was only a handful of men. Today Hizbullah has tens of thousands of very well trained men. Then there are also Iran and Russia:

agitpapa @agitpapa - 12:24 UTC · Oct 11, 2023

As I said in my analysis today of the NATO intervention in the Israeli northern front, it's inconceivable that Russia should stay silent in the face of such brazen NATO overreach. This seat-of-the-pants, unmandated NATO panic move will speed up Russia's pivot from pro-Israel to pro-Arab that started with the deaths of Russian airmen caused by an IAF aggression against Syria and was locked in with Netanyahu's support for the nazi regime in Kiev.

The Russian military has long identified Israel as an enemy state and Putin is now conceding to them, acknowledging the failure of yet another one of his strategies, namely the political use of the Russian Jewish community in Israel via his "friend" Avigdor Lieberman. Russian Jews in Israel are virulently anti-Arab, so Putin tried not to upset them.

Today, however, with Bibi bringing in the full might of NATO to the Eastern Mediterranean to threaten not only Lebanon but Russian bases in Syria, it's no more Mr. Nice Guy. With Patrushin and Shoygu holding the reins of state and a clear and present NATO threat on Syria's doorstep, expect a strong and unexpected Russian intervention in the multifront Israel-Hamas-Hezbollah war.

DJ, Putin tried to be friends with netanyahu only to be betrayed by netanyahu...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7cQQ5vnf4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7cQQ5vnf4 Judge Napolitano/Scott Ritter (SR);

-Israel intel failed because they had the facts/intel but "wishfull thinking"  (and AI) did result in wrong conclusions...

(DJ- It may answer some of my questions-how it can be Israel missed this hamas-terror-attack...But Israel defense failed for hours...maybe because those to react at first were killed/wounded or hiding/fighting/trying to get in a better position ?) 

-DJ, Of course this mass murder comes in a long list of mass murders...Israel till october killed over 300 Palestinians...The "west" ignored the Israeli terror...

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The IDF would be preparing for ground operations into Gaza. SR and many others point to the underground defense infra structure in Gaza...The Israeli Air Force now only is bombing the "upper floor" and killing hundreds of Palestinians in the action...

Moving into Gaza by ground forces will result in very heavy losses for Israel. It would also start other "problems". Again -this time- the Lebanon and Syria border did become one front line...Israel provided aid to "Syrian rebels-like IS"...

Zelensky trying to link the war in Ukraine with that in Israel...he knows that now NATO weapons end up in Israel...Ukraine is moving towards collapse...

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DJ-NATO/US trying to limit damage;

-Ukraine is collapsing...another defeat...

-Arab countries are now moving even faster towards BRICS+...

(DJ-If Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Ethiopia did not join BRICS+ within a few months would we than be in this crisis ? )

-Most people in the west do NOT support a political crazy elite getting involved on the Israeli side...

-Tomorrow may see massive protests against the Israeli terror...The unbalanced elite crazyness has major economic consequences...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB96bBDfO8Q[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB96bBDfO8Q DJ-people sometimes work 80 hrs a week to limit debts...

 U.S. Economy Is SINKING: RECORD Numbers of Americans Work 2 Full Time Jobs As Delinquencies RISE

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DJ...internet issue...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/palestine-open-thread-2023-237.html#[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/palestine-open-thread-2023-237.html# ;

News of the day:

Gregg Carlstrom @glcarlstrom - 4:51 UTC · Oct 12, 2023

MbS spoke last night with Iran's president Raisi (!). First call ever. From Saudi readout: MbS "expressed deep concern for the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza" and "underscored the kingdom's unwavering stance in standing up for the Palestinian cause."
HRH Crown Prince Receives Phone Call from Iranian President

The call was likely in response to U.S. plans for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza:

The US is in active talks with Israel and Egypt to establish "safe passage" corridors for civilians in Gaza to flee ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the White House said Wednesday amid an expected ground offensive in the besieged enclave.

the west did kick cans down the road, creating money out of thin air buying time to NOT solve problems ....Time has run out...

After the NATO disasters in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya NATO started another disaster in Ukraine...the rest of the world is no longer accepting that. BRICS+ is a better alternative...

Denying problems, pandemic, climate collapse...empty words-does not work...

Forbidding pro-Palestine protests makes western "democrazy" even more empty...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/could-germanys-government-collapse-fdp-could-be-eyeing-early-exit-coalition[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/could-germanys-government-collapse-fdp-could-be-eyeing-early-exit-coalition ...Poland has elections sunday, Germany has regional elections...here in NL we have elections next month...

"If elections changed anything they would be forbidden" so new faces providing no new answers....

Hamas may have used western weakness as the moment for its major terror attack...Israeli over-reaction may be part of the hamas-plan...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israels-defense-chief-admits-failure-protect-citizens-after-security-collapsed[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israels-defense-chief-admits-failure-protect-citizens-after-security-collapsed ;

However, one wonders: if Israel's military and intelligence is this efficient at positively identifying Hamas operatives and their residences or hideouts in the middle of a war unfolding, how was Saturday's large-scale incursion - in which jihadists even took over IDF outposts - able to happen? How was it not foreseen (and with the widely reported Egyptian advanced warning to boot)? 

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Speaking to four Israeli security officials, NYT also outlined that the wave of lapses included:

  • Failure by intelligence officers to monitor key communication channels used by Palestinian attackers;

  • Overreliance on border surveillance equipment that was easily shut down by attackers, allowing them to raid military bases and slay soldiers in their beds;

  • Clustering of commanders in a single border base that was overrun in the opening phase of the incursion, preventing communication with the rest of the armed forces;

  • And a willingness to accept at face value assertions by Gazan military leaders, made on private channels that the Palestinians knew were being monitored by Israel, that they were not preparing for battle.

And then there's this epic line in the report: "We spend billions and billions on gathering intelligence on Hamas," Yoel Guzansky, a former senior official of Israel’s National Security Council, said. "Then, in a second, everything collapsed like dominoes."

DJ...so how well is IDF intel when they want to go into an urban fortified Gaza war ? 

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DJ-I think a lot of diplomacy may be ongoing to limit further escalation...Israel moving into Gaza may drag the US into a position confronting not only Russia but also the Arab/Islamic world...


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DJ, yesterday-this weekend-widespread protests around the globe...Pro-Israel demonstrations protected by police in NATO countries, pro-Palestine demonstrations may even get attacked...

The Duran [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDYB1mTWiSY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDYB1mTWiSY BRICS preparing a two-state peace plan...Western "leaders" visiting Israel to "show support" without any real solutions...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUvodNbRW8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUvodNbRW8 Military Summary;MS;

-Unclear yet who will lead the non-western group to get out of this crisis

-The "west" again not able to come up with answers...only more weapons...

-DJ, I think there could be several coalitions within BRICS+

   -A Russia/India/China one still seeking diplomacy

   -An Iran/Arab one looking for "sanctions" on the west

   -Muslim countries in between...if radical Islamic groups gain to much influence it may be a problem in Indonesia, Pakistan, Egypt...

DJ-By now the non-western world may be losing patience with the US/NATO...kicking down the can for decades-"fake diplomacy" only created Hamas etc...The west only wants western domination for western goals...

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In Ukraine Russia may be using the momentum...Ukraine may be running out of new supplies while Russia may have recieved new stocks from North Korea. 

MS mentioned Bahkmut as an example of modern urban warfare...however Bahkmut once housed a 70,000 population and was almost empty during the fighting...That fighting did see tens-of-thousends killed...Gaza is populated, still over 2 million people in a much more urban area...

DJ-I think Israel may think twice before they start a ground war in that area;

-What would be the Israeli goal needing (large scale) ground operations ? Release of hostages may be more succesfull via indirect talks/prisoner exchange..

-A Gaza ground war will start a major conflict with at least Hezbollah...

-Limiting civilian losses in such an urban area will be impossible...a ground war in Gaza would hurt Israel a lot...

-IDF military losses may run in the thousends-only in a first phase of a major Gaza land operation...

So-yes-Israel may claim they will start such a land war but the main goal may be getting more (western) help...

On the other hand I think also Israel would love to not destroy relations with Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China...

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Since Egypt tries to limit the flow of refugees most people in Gaza are stuck...soon without water or hospitals...Hamas is stopping people from moving to southern Gaza...

Western propaganda makes it Hamas using the population as a human shield-however giving up northern Gaza would very likely see Israel destroying it and reclaiming it...

Like with the pandemic "real news" is limited....lots of false info around...

Can OPEC+/Gulf States stop selling energy to the west with winter on its way ? I think they will use the energy weapon-increasing further energy prices and inflation...

IF however Israel would start a major ground war in Gaza we may see an escalation of conflicts explode around the globe...

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[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-geopolitics-al-aqsa-flood[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-geopolitics-al-aqsa-flood 

Incompetence. Willful strategy. Or both.

That brings us to the cost of launching this new “war on terror.” The propaganda is in full swing. For Netanyahu in Tel Aviv, Hamas is ISIS. For Volodymyr Zelensky in Kiev, Hamas is Russia. Over one October weekend, the war in Ukraine was completely forgotten by western mainstream media. Brandenburg Gate, the Eiffel tower, the Brazilian Senate are all Israeli now. 

Egyptian intel claims it warned Tel Aviv about an imminent attack from Hamas. The Israelis chose to ignore it, as they did the Hamas training drills they observed in the weeks prior, smug in their superior knowledge that Palestinians would never have the audacity to launch a liberation operation.

Whatever happens next, Al-Aqsa Flood has already, irretrievably, shattered the hefty pop mythology around the invincibility of Tsahal, Mossad, Shin Bet, Merkava tank, Iron Dome, and the Israel Defense Forces. 

Even as it ditched electronic communications, Hamas profited from the glaring collapse of Israel’s multi-billion-dollar electronic systems monitoring the most surveilled border on the planet. 

Cheap Palestinian drones hit multiple sensor towers, facilitated the advance of a paragliding infantry, and cleared the way for T-shirted, AK-47-wielding assault teams to inflict breaks in the wall and cross a border that even stray cats dared not. 

Israel, inevitably, turned to battering the Gaza Strip, an encircled cage of 365 square kilometers packed with 2.3 million people. The indiscriminate bombing of refugee camps, schools, civilian apartment blocks, mosques, and slums has begun. Palestinians have no navy, no air force, no artillery units, no armored fighting vehicles, and no professional army. They have little to no high-tech surveillance access, while Israel can call up NATO data if they want it. 

DJ, A major reason why the Israeli army (IDF) did not start a ground war against Gaza may be pressure from "the west"...The weather is used only as an excuse...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hamas-claims-26-hostages-died-israeli-airstrikes-including-foreigners-after-idf-finds[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hamas-claims-26-hostages-died-israeli-airstrikes-including-foreigners-after-idf-finds ...also the UK may send its navy and some planes towards the Middle East...(for now)...As far as I know France did NOT send its carrier [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_aircraft_carrier_Charles_de_Gaulle[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_aircraft_carrier_Charles_de_Gaulle 

-One weak spot is a lot of US bases are in Muslim countries now "in conflict" with Israel...So the US may be "limited" in using their bases in Türkiye, Jordan, UAE, Qatar...

-Another point has to do with energy...If not make energy deals with Russia than make deals with other suppliers...but OPEC+ may no longer be willing to make deals with the "west"...

[url]https://www.msf.org/hospitals-are-overwhelmed-catastrophic-situation-gaza[/url] or https://www.msf.org/hospitals-are-overwhelmed-catastrophic-situation-gaza Israel demanding 1,1 million Palestinians move from Gaza-city to the southern part of Gaza -south of a stream of water...in fact is unacceptable for even most pro-Israel governments...

DJ-The "west" may have their "worries" on netanyahu/Israeli extremists;

-They have been pusjing for a war with Iran for decades...

-Also some Israeli extremists want a larger Israel "more Jewish"...

So "the west" could find itself getting involved in another war they should not be in...With very high costs for western economies...

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If biden even would like to dream of getting re-elected in US elections he has to have inflation, economy, on his side...The Ukraine war already is a major costly disaster...

The US idea may have been EU, UK buying more US energy-saving the US-energy-$...in reality US energy is much to expensive and the US may not have enough for foreign demand...

So the EU is importing record number of India diesel...of course made from Russian oil....

DJ-I am NOT a supporter of trump...but I do think trump would get the US out of this crisis high speed by talking to Putin, China...even NK-Kim if need be...This only underlines the basic problem is biden unable to go for any kind of diplomacy...

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Can "the west" limit damages ? 

NO !!! The present crisis -my view- is the outcome of western arrogance since the end of the USSR if not longer....

The rest of the world will NOT accept any kind of neo-colonialism by the west...BRICS+ (Brazil-Russia-India-China-South Africa, Egypyt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Ethiopia and Argentina join per 1-1-24) may offer a "mix" of economies/currencies (with the old BRICS all have an "R" in their currency name so R5) that can be interesting for lots of countries...

Indonesia wants to stay non-aligned...some other countries could follow that road...But in fact it may make the western position even weaker [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement because it could result in a major non-western bloc NEXT to BRICS+...

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DJ, With Ukraine yet another NATO disaster-after Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen-even the Military Industrial Complex (including banks making profits out of war) may have reached its limits...

NATO is destroyed by debts...their economies close to collapse...You can not have a military industry without any perspective of profits in a capitalist system...The military industrial complex in most BRICS+ countries is state owned...tax funded...NOT tax being used for getting share holders rich by war...

So...will we have "peace" in Ukraine, Middle East ? Maybe we will see "frozen wars"...Korea-scenario's...With BRICS+ doing "trade not war" with anyone interested...

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DJ, Again...pandemics have a background. Wars make health crises much worse...Some claims of smallpox in Gaza showed up in the news. The Israel/NATO mass murder/genocide of Palestinians in part will be done by destroying healthcare...

-A very likely major reason why Israel groundforces still are not inside Gaza may be in calculations...IF Israel moves into Gaza with a lot of US support the position of the US in the Middle East would even get worse than it already is...

Israel needs -for now- US military in the Middle East. The US bases-from Türkiye, Jordan to UAE, Qatar, Iraq, Syria all are at risk with a large scale Israeli ground war in Gaza...

-Another point may be the goal of such a war...Push all Palestinians-over 2,3 million-towards Egypt ? This may end a peacedeal with Egypt...make Egypt again an Israeli enemy..

Egypt will join BRICS+ per 1-1-2024...Egypt becoming anti-western may leave NATO with another Suez-canal problem...

-The surprise terror attack of Hamas on october 7 is showing Israel is not as strong and secure as it loves to claim...Iron dome ran out of missiles to bring down Hamas missiles...On the Gaza-border Israel intel failed to see 1+1+1+1=4...They even knew Palestinians were training on para-gliders/deltawing ultralight planes...but failed to come up with the idea some radical groups may have been planning any kind of attack...

-In Gaza the Israeli Army itself once build fortifications...Several Palestinian groups may have been working on defenses for years...Even if Iran, Yemen Houthis or others did NOT help -and even with Israeli intel having done a very bad job- it is clear a war inside Gaza will be very bloody...

-There were protests against netanyahu in Israel. Lots of people inside Israel see netanyahu as a very major problem...A war inside Gaza may be long and have no clear winner...dividing Israel even further...

-We had a large pro-Palestine demonstration yesterday/sunday here in NL-Amsterdam...The "west" already is no longer pro-Israel...only a "crazy political EU elite may still support this war"...With lots of (regional) elections the west is not waiting for a major Middle East war...wich also would push up inflation even worse...

So...Israel/NATO wants to show "strength"...in fact because they know they are very weak...

Behind the scene there is a lot of diplomacy...Russia may cover Türkiye in providing aid to Gaza...(and I think Egypt may be part of such a plan). China (a.o.) may come up with another peace initiative...In fact-in many ways-it is the west, in need for energy and with massive debts, that may find itself empty handed...

DJ-Ukraine is moving closer to collapse...A reason why zelenski may still be in power is disagreement on replacement...Poland, Germany, NL face growing political crises...

I would not be surprised if "western leaders" would give up on Ukraine, Israel to save their own neck...

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DJ, Inside Israel there is growing criticism towards netanyahu....

[url]https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861[/url] or https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861 

An Israeli woman who survived the Hamas assault on settlements near the Gaza boundary on 7 October says Israeli civilians were “undoubtedly” killed by their own security forces.

It happened when Israeli forces engaged in fierce gun battles with Palestinian fighters in Kibbutz Be’eri and fired indiscriminately at both the fighters and their Israeli prisoners.

“They eliminated everyone, including the hostages,” she told Israeli radio. “There was very, very heavy crossfire” and even tank shelling.

The woman, 44-year-old mother of three Yasmin Porat, said that prior to that, she and other civilians had been held by the Palestinians for several hours and treated “humanely.” She had fled the nearby “Nova” rave.

If indeed the Israeli forces themselves killed hostages a good investigation is needed. It further increases questions on how this terror attack could happen...Why Israeli security failed this much...

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US "FM" blinken did have very long talks with Israeli leaders...An overreaction from Israel would damage the US/NATO position in the region. It did NOT stop Israel from attacking targets in Syria, Lebanon...

DJ-Is netanyahu trying to push a major war ? Again-NATO supposed to attack Iran because of nuclear issues ? (With NO discussion on Israeli nuclear weapons...) 

NATO itself is divided over supporting Israel...The EU can NOT take over the US role in Ukraine...Germany sending old Leopard-1 tanks (over 60 years old !) to Ukraine does not help...

Military Summary expects another Ukraine offensive crossing the Dnepr-river near Kherson...trying to get at least some western support...

Lots of people expect zelenski to step down soon...(or be kicked out/killed). However "what is next" is the major question...A risk for both Ukraine and Israel may be a civil war (possibly ON TOP of already ongoing wars...). 

The west itself is sinking into economic chaos...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAErqW7vj7Y[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAErqW7vj7Y ;

Derivatives and the coming collapse w/ Alex at Reporterfy (Live)

DJ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivatives_market#Netting[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivatives_market#Netting 

US: Figures below are from the second quarter of 2008 [6] Archived 2007-12-26 at the Wayback Machine

  • Total derivatives (notional amount): $182.2 trillion (second quarter, 2008)
    • Interest rate contracts: $145.0 trillion (86%)
    • Foreign exchange contracts: $18.2 trillion(10%)
    • 2008 Second Quarter, banks reported trading revenues of $1.6 billion
  • Total number of commercial banks holding derivatives: 975

If you did see the US debt as a problem the derivatives are far worse...with a few "players" able to "blow up" the global economy....

However some countries-Russia a.o. are much less exposed...This does however NOT mean they will use a derivative"bomb" ...it may do a lot of damage to them...

Derivatives, shares etc. can be used to "guide" towards some goals or trying to remain in some positions. It may both be used to keep a US$ in a global position AND to weaken that position...For that matter it could become a tool in a global financial war...

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The Duran [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTXVtvQggE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTXVtvQggE ;

Russia and China diplomacy for war off-ramp. Isolated Biden goes to Israel

DJ, Putin is in Bejing meeting Xi. BRICS+ (including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, UAE) may be trying to find ways to not only end the crisis in Israel but also work on long term solutions for both Ukraine and the Middle East. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-evacuates-residents-28-towns-near-lebanese-border-hezbollah-attacks-increase[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-evacuates-residents-28-towns-near-lebanese-border-hezbollah-attacks-increase 

The Gaza hospital bombing most likely for now;

-Was an Israeli action

-Was done on purpose

Even if hamas had a weapon storage or used the hospital as a shield it is NOT an excuse for Israel for attack. 

"crazy joe" showing his support for Israel...with other NATO "leaders" mostly still following US orders...Outcome very likely is the Arab/Muslim world breaking further ties with a "west gone crazy"....US bases in the Middle East, including Türkiye, Qatar, may become "impossible"...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-deploys-large-force-eyes-on-syria.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-deploys-large-force-eyes-on-syria.html The US could be thinking of "providing help" to Israel if a war breaks out between Israel and Syria. Assad would like to reunite the Golan-heights...

DJ, In Ukraine from time to time Russian missiles hit targets that are fired from planes hundreds of kilometers from the target...Syria is not that far away from Russia..In the past Iran allowed Russian planes to use Iran bases/airspace for actions in Syria. 

So far Russia limited both Iran and Hezbollah inside Syria from reacting to Israel air strikes...

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With Israel now also attacking places were wounded people, refugees, seek safety there may be a red line crossed. 

-Russia could allow Russian made airdefense provided to Iran/Syria to be used against Israeli fighters...

-Russia could also increase its navy presence in the mediterranean and near Iran. 

-China may decide to go for a stronger role

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I think Russia/China may still try to "make trade not war" however if others now may go further Russia/China could try to limit it still...India, Brazil, South Africa (old BRICS) also may try to play a role...

The "west" has made itself a part of the problem...positioning itself in fact behind netanyahu...Both in Israel and the west most of the public may be fed up with western leaders promoting war...

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DJ, With the agreement of joe biden Israel bombed [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius one of the oldest christian buildings still functioning...People did try to find a safe place there...(also christians...) very likely hundreds killed...

DJ-I think the Israeli goal is to provoke "others" into action to get (even more) US/NATO help...

My view; IDF moving into Gaza in a ground war -to push 2,3 million Palestinians into Egypt- would be totally insane...Mean war with even Egypt, Jordan, Türkiye...So netanyahu is trying to provoke military action from Hizbollah, Iran/Syria...and than "in self defence" NATO will "help"....

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-bases-come-under-drone-attack-syria-after-israeli-strikes-south-damascus[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-bases-come-under-drone-attack-syria-after-israeli-strikes-south-damascus ;

Update(1735ET)Israeli media is reporting that the United States is currently in talks to establish 'safe zones' in Gaza after it was widely reported that the IDF has been given the green light by the Netanyahu government to go into the Gaza Strip. There are also emerging reports that an Orthodox Church in Gaza has suffered attack by an Israeli strike, via Times of Israel

The Hamas-controlled interior ministry says several displaced people who had taken shelter at a church compound in the Gaza Strip have been killed and injured in an Israeli strike.

There was no immediate comment from the IDF, which tells AFP it is looking into the potential strike.

The strike left a “large number of martyrs and injured” at the compound of a Greek Orthodox church, the ministry says.

Witnesses tell AFP the strike appears to have been aimed at a target close to the place of worship where many Gaza residents have taken refuge.

Additionally, Russia has said it is moving more military assets to its bases in Syria.

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The Pentagon has confirmed that American troops suffered injuries during the last 24 hours of drone and rocket attacks against bases in Iraq and Syria:

Two drones targeted a base in western Iraq used by U.S. forces, and one drone targeted a base in northern Iraq. U.S. forces intercepted all three, destroying two but only damaging the third, which led to minor injuries among coalition forces at the western base, according to a statement Wednesday by U.S. Central Command.

"In this moment of heightened alert, we are vigilantly monitoring the situation in Iraq and the region. U.S. forces will defend U.S. and coalition forces against any threat," Central Command said in the release.

On Thursday, several drones and rockets also targeted US troops locations in Deir Ezzor Syria and Al-Tanf.

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Update(1458ET): A huge escalation from Iran-linked militants, just after international headlines reported Israel's military has been given the "green light" to enter Gaza:

According to CNN, a U.S. Navy vessel operating in the Middle East region intercepted multiple missiles launched from Yemen. A U.S. official says the missiles were launched from the Iran-backed Houthi militant group.

According to more from ABC's senior Pentagon correspondent, US officials confirm to ABC "the destroyer USS Carney shot down multiple Houthi missiles last night. They were NOT aimed at the ship, but headed in a northerly direction." There's speculation that they may have been fired toward Israel in solidarity with Gaza. Israel media is reporting:

Israel believes that the missiles launched from Yemen and intercepted by a US warship today were aimed at Israel - Channel 13

DJ, Israel/US now not only insulting Muslims but also orthodox christians...(From Russia, Greece to Egypt, Ethiopia..Egypt and Ethiopia both BRICS+ member per 2024). 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/wests-pro-israel-position-accelerates-its-loss-of-power.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/wests-pro-israel-position-accelerates-its-loss-of-power.html 

[url]https://www.okdoomer.io/israel-hamas-palestinians-and-the-u-s-3/[/url] or https://www.okdoomer.io/israel-hamas-palestinians-and-the-u-s-3/ 

One act of terror can NAVER be any kind of excuse for more terrorism...The present netanyahu extremist government is destroying Israel...The US/NATO is "helping" in the proces...

DJ-My view; BRICS slogan "make trade not war" ...meaning in this case more and more economic warfare; dumping US$, US debts, decreasing energy to NATO members in support of insanity...

Besides that US/NATO bases may no longer be safe...anywhere...

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DJ, Here in NL a "political elite" keeps pushing pro-Israel excuses...[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/extinction-rebellion-palestinian-flag-projected-on-landmarks/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/extinction-rebellion-palestinian-flag-projected-on-landmarks/ 

Two local groups attached to environmental movement Extinction Rebellion Netherlands movement have been busy this week projecting the Palestinian flag on Dutch landmarks.

On Monday, the Palestinian flag was projected Utrecht’s Dom Tower for a little over an hour by Justice Now!

And Wednesday night, Extinction Rebellion Rotterdam projected the Palestinian flag atop the city’s Euromast from 9 pm to 10.30 pm

“We did it primarily because in politics and the media, the dominant narrative is the support of Israel’s right to defend itself even though according to UN officials, there’s a mass ethnic cleansing going on right now,” Extinction Rebellion Rotterdam and Justice Now! spokesperson Victor told Dutch News.

“No politicians are talking about that, even though Israel has been getting away with these types of crimes for decades, and it’s time for people and politicians to speak out about it.”

Saying they want to put “the true narrative out there”, Extinction Rebellion Rotterdam and Justice Now! are calling on the Dutch government to “stop supporting Israel and bring Netanyahu and others committing war crimes to justice before the International Criminal Court (ICC).”

Although the actions may seem a bit outside the mandate of a movement fighting for “climate justice”, Victor says they are completely compatible.

“This is about justice,” he said in reference to the Palestinian flag actions. “We are for life everywhere, and we speak up when lives are in danger, whether it’s the capitalist system destroying the environment or committing genocide. It’s the same system, run by a small group of rich, powerful people. We are for justice for humans, animals and planet. It’s our moral obligation to speak out against oppression, or else we stand with the oppressors.”

Victor says the police were at the group’s door an hour after the Euromast action began, saying the owner didn’t support them. “We took it down after 1.5 hours. A lot of us had to go to work.”

This may underline the gap between "politics for sale" and democracy...The present political elite does not stop fossil fuels, made Israel a bridgehead to the oil/gas production in the Middle East. 

The Duran; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RyIYR0f0k[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RyIYR0f0k ;

Biden wants multiple wars, $60B to Ukraine. Middle East shuns POTUS. Brazil ceasefire.

DJ, In the security council the west (US,UK,France) blocked both a Russian and Brazilian call for a ceasefire...Again underlining (this) Israel -like Ukraine- is part of "NATO"...Neo-colonial Atlantic Terrorist Organization...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/de-dollarization-china-completes-first-digital-yuan-purchase-cross-border-oil[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/de-dollarization-china-completes-first-digital-yuan-purchase-cross-border-oil and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ev-stocks-slide-after-china-curbs-graphite-exports-latest-trade-spat[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ev-stocks-slide-after-china-curbs-graphite-exports-latest-trade-spat 

DJ, Western media ignoring the destruction of holy buildings-over 1400 years old- in Gaza by Israel...The same war-industry owned "media" claim biden his visit to Israel was a success...

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5zZfRA1AAs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5zZfRA1AAs

Hearing Biden's Speech Line by Line is TERRIFYING & infuriating

RJ Eskow plays the speech back and points out all the horrifying messages buried in it. 

DJ, biden/NATO (again) defending war crimes...Ukraine after the 2014 coup genocide on Russian-speakers, Israel genocide on Palestinians..

Collective punishment for the crimes of some, bombing civilians because there might be fighters...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poll-finds-lackluster-desire-arm-supply-israel-even-among-gop[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poll-finds-lackluster-desire-arm-supply-israel-even-among-gop in the US support for (more weapons to) Israel is dropping...DJ-Like the rest of the world the US may start realizing weapons only may be part of a strategy...not ALL of it....

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/netanyahoos-strategic-dilema.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/netanyahoos-strategic-dilema.html ;

Netanyahoo's Strategic Dilemma

Israel is a colonial settler state in permanent conflict with the suppressed natives.

It thought it could survive in that state, or even extend its settlements, by deterring opposing forces with its superior military.

Hamas has breached that deterrence myth by inflicting, in one day, more casualties in Israel than it had experienced in any previous wars.

Natanyahoo is under pressure to restore the deterrence, to again provide the Zionists with a feeling of superiority.

He can not do that.

Any land attack in Gaza means urban warfare in an already destroyed city with large underground facilities. During the taking of Bakhmut the Wagener forces had in total some 40,000 casualties (dead and wounded). The other side had more than 70,000. What price would the IDF have to pay to 'destroy Hamas'?

The other factor is of course Hizbullah and other resistance groups, which may well attack Israel from the north and various other directions. Hizbullah has loudly said it would do so should the IDF enter Gaza. It has some 100,000 missiles - more than enough to exhaust Israel's air defenses. Its longest reach missiles can attack any major city within Israel. There have already been daily fire exchanges at the norther border.

The 2006 war in Lebanon has shown that Hizbullah is dug in and very able to defend itself. It has since gained more experience by fighting ISIS in Syria. Neither U.S. air force attacks nor a land force invasion can hinder Hizbullah from firing its missiles.

(Syria, as well as Iran, will not intervene in the war unless they are directly attacked.)

DJ, Assad in Syria wants all parts of Syria under Syrian control...including the Golan Heights...Hizbollah is one of the pro-Assad forces in the NATO made Syrian war...Israel has been attacking Iran in Syria, Syrian forces...providing "help" to IS and other "moderate terrorists"....

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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/tea-and-sympathy-unique-photos-show-another-side-of-wwii/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/tea-and-sympathy-unique-photos-show-another-side-of-wwii/ ;

The Freedom Museum in Groesbeek near Nijmegen has been given a unique photo album made by a British volunteer in the region during World War II.

Jack Speller, a pacifist and conscientious objector to the war, ended up on the front lines in the Netherlands after joining the YMCA, which ran a welfare operation for young soldiers.

“Because he was a pacifist, I think wanted to do something for people who suffered so much in the war,” daughter Marcelle told broadcaster NOS. “He was deeply influenced by what he saw and experienced.”

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Soldiers were happy to see his van, with the red YMCA label on it and his services were very welcome. The average soldier, Marcelle said, was satisfied with anything that was “wet and warm”, she said, meaning a cup of tea.

“If someone was at breaking point, you could see it in their eyes most of all,” Speller’s daughter told NOS. “These were boys with the worries of old men.”

During his time in Nijmegen, Jack met and fell in love with local girl Tonnie Kuijpers and they remained together. Daughter Marcelle will officially hand over the album to the museum on Wednesday night.

The photos show “a deliberately invisible form of care on the front line, which also makes it less visible in our post-war memory,” the museum said.

DJ, NO ONE !!! has ANY !!! right to kill a fellow human ! If you want to prevent wars do not fight wars...If "politicians" want to fight it out...let them do the fighting !

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[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-russias-neutrality-ballet-israel-palestine[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-russias-neutrality-ballet-israel-palestine ;

Except for one stunning statement last Friday at the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) Summit in Bishkek, when Putin blasted Israel’s “cruel methods” employed to blockade Gaza, and compared it with “the siege of Leningrad during World War Two.”

“That’s unacceptable,” declared the Russian president, and warned that when all of Gaza’s 2.2 million civilians “have to suffer, including women and children, it’s hard for anyone to agree with this."

Putin’s comments may have been one hint at the changes underway in the frustratingly opaque Russia-Israel relationship. A close second is this very important article published last Friday on Vzglyad, a security strategy website close to the Kremlin, diplomatically titled “Why Russia remains neutral in the conflict in the Middle East.”   

It’s crucial to note that only six months ago and mirroring a near consensus among Russia’s intelligence community, Vzglyad editors were calling for Moscow to shift its considerable political weight toward supporting the number one issue for the Arab and Islamic worlds.  

The article noted the key points Putin voiced in Bishkek: there’s no alternative to negotiations; Tel Aviv was subjected to a brutal attack and has the right to defend itself; a real settlement is possible only via an independent Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerusalem.  

The Russian president favors the UN’s original “two states” solution and believes that a Palestinian state should be established “by peaceful means.” But, as much as the conflict was “a direct result of the failed policy of the United States in the Middle East,” Putin rejects Tel Aviv’s plans to launch a ground operation in Gaza. 

This qualified hedging is certainly not evidence of Putin swinging to what is a near consensus among the General Staff, the siloviki in several intel agencies, and his ministry of defense: They consider that Israel may be a de facto enemy of the Russian Federation, allied with Ukraine, the US and NATO.

Follow the money

Tel Aviv has been extremely cautious not to frontally antagonize Russia in Ukraine, and this may be a direct consequence of the notoriously cordial relations between Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.  

Yet way more consequential than Israel on the geopolitical chessboard are Moscow’s evolving relations with Arab states today, especially OPEC+ partner Saudi Arabia which has helped thwart western efforts to control oil prices.

Also highly central to Russia’s regional policymaking is its strategic partnership with Iran, which has reaped dividends in Syria and the Caucasus, and which helps contain US expansionism. Finally, Moscow’s complex, multi-layered, back-and-forth with Ankara is crucial to Russian economic and geopolitical ambitions in Eurasia.  

All three West Asian powers are Muslim-majority states, important affiliations for a multipolar Russia that hosts its own sizable Muslim population.

And for these three regional actors, without distinction, the current collective punishment of Gaza transgresses any possible red line.     

Israel is also not that significant anymore in Moscow’s financial considerations. Since the 1990s, immense quantities of Russian funds have been transiting to Israel, but now, a substantial portion is returning right back to Russia. 

DJ, Putin and netanyahu once had a lot of contact...Russia/BRICS+ now is "repositioning" itself...Israel can be relevant in Eur-Asian integration but has to take a "constructive role" in West Asia and talk peace...NOT war...

In Ukraine zelensky is pushing for an offensive trying to still keep western support..One problem he may face is hamas may have weapons meant for Ukraine...Like in Ukraine also -now inside Israel- western weapons do not the miracle job they were supposed to do...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava ...Israel may have already lost TEN !!! of these tanks...and the major fighting still has to start...

An Israeli invasion of Gaza may see very likely tens-of-thousends Israeli fighters killed...It also would start a war with Hizbollah in "the north" -maybe not only from Lebanon but also Syria...Even without Syria/Iran getting directly involved Hizbollah missiles and attacks, West Bank uprising, will destroy Israel...

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So far the outcome of biden confrontation politics may have resulted in possibly 500,000 Ukraine deaths...now Israel may face destruction... We need diplomacy NOT war !

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DJ, Hal Turner may not always do a good job however;

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/idf-general-reveals-hideous-truth-we-have-lost-the-ability-to-field-an-effective-army[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/idf-general-reveals-hideous-truth-we-have-lost-the-ability-to-field-an-effective-army ;

In his view, Israel’s ground forces are not ready for war. The warning follows a series of polls showing that a large portion of Israeli citizens have lost faith in their country’s future. This was particularly evident over the last year, when the people were divided over political and judicial issues.

“In my role as general, I have visited more than 1,400 units and spoken to tens of thousands of commanders and soldiers, three to four times a week, four hours in each unit. I know the army on the ground better than anyone in the Israel Defense Forces,” Brick said years ago. “I have seen soldiers who do not take care of their weapons before leaving the base. No army in the world behaves like this. The soldiers carry their smartphones with them everywhere. Commands are sent via WhatsApp groups. These phones are being tracked by the enemy.”

Not only that, but commands are said to have been sent via email and then deleted, meaning no follow-up action is possible. “Our system has lost all control. Have we gone crazy? I cannot sleep at night. Our ground forces and armored corps are not ready for war,” Brick continually warned.

“What I present to you here is something you will not hear from the top IDF officials. Not only do many of the commanders not know anything, but even those who do know are afraid to speak out lest they be punished,” he wrote, calling on members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee to speak to the rank-and-file soldiers and address the issue. “Let them show you what is going on, share with them their problems and difficulties. It will not be the division, brigade, and battalion commanders from whom you will learn about the reality that exists in the field. You should learn it from those for whom it is the routine of their life… Their statements are the truth.”

Israel’s entire security apparatus has failed and relied too heavily on technology, with an unhealthy dash of arrogance. But as is typically the case, those who don’t go with the flow and call out the glaring problems are dismissed as lunatics, like General Brick, who saw the danger before anyone else.  He seems to have been ignored.

May explain the crisis Israel -and NATO- now faces...

You can NOT fight a war with the air force, navy, artillery and high tech as the only tools. The hamas mass murder on october 7 was possible because Israel security failed...

[url]https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/eu-staff-criticise-von-der-leyen-over-israel-stance/[/url] or https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/eu-staff-criticise-von-der-leyen-over-israel-stance/ ;

“We, a group of EU Commission and other EU institutions’ staff solemnly condemn on personal grounds the terrorist attacks perpetrated by Hamas against helpless civilians (…). We equally strongly condemn the disproportionate reaction by the Israeli government against the 2.3 million Palestinian civilians trapped in the Gaza Strip”, they write.

“Precisely because of these atrocities, we are surprised by the stance the European Commission has taken – and even other EU institutions – promoting what has been described in the press as European cacophony,” the letter reads.

They also write that they are concerned about “the seeming indifference demonstrated over the past few days by our institution toward the ongoing massacre of civilians in the Gaza Strip, in disregard for human rights and international humanitarian law”.

Earlier last week, the Commission had to backtrack on its early announcement by Neighbourhood Commissioner Oliver Varhelyi that it would cut “all aid” to Palestinians following widespread criticism from other EU institutions and divisions within the EU executive.

Some EU officials and member states also criticised von der Leyen, who visited Israel last Friday (13 October), for not declaring that the EU expects Israel to abide by international humanitarian law in its response to the attack, as other EU leaders did.

DJ, You can NOT call cutting of water, electricity by Israel self defence, when Russia does the same it is "terrorism"...Western "morality" seems to see US wars in Iraq, Syria as "good wars"...Russia stopping NATO moving east is "agression of Russia"....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_tmSs2cmEY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_tmSs2cmEY The Duran with Sofia Midkiff-Chinese born. 

China Belt and Road influence and Middle East policy

DJ See also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations 

From The Duran; During the Japanese occupation of parts of China some zionists groups contacted Japan on the possibilities of a Jewish state in China...

The New Atlas [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAi9IXFT2M[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAi9IXFT2M ;

Update on the conflict in the Middle East for October 22, 2023 (Sunday) 

- Even before Israel’s ground operation begins, it is requesting scarce artillery ammunition from the US who is diverting it from Ukraine; 

- Israeli ground operations in 2006 against Lebanon and 2008-2009 and 2014 in Gaza provide possible insight into the limits of Israeli military power ahead of a potential ground incursion into Gaza now; 

- Israel may be able to occupy northern Gaza but will push the limits of military power, its logistical support both domestically and via the US, as well as risk political stability within Israeli society; 

DJ, Most "modern western countries" are NOT ready for a real war...NATO did destroy Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan...most of it long distance...resulting in chaos...My view; Israel is NOT ready for a major war that will become a two front war if the IDF invades Gaza. 

[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/dutch-woman-stranded-in-gaza-is-killed-in-bombing-raid/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/10/dutch-woman-stranded-in-gaza-is-killed-in-bombing-raid/ ;

A 33-year-old Dutch woman has been killed in an explosion in Gaza, the foreign affairs ministry confirmed on Sunday.

Islam al-Ashqar was visiting relatives at the Nusairat refugee camp in central Gaza and was one of 22 Dutch nationals the ministry was trying to help leave, broadcaster NOS said.

According to news agency AP, Israel bombed the local evening market in the camp on Saturday night but it is unclear as yet if Al-Ashqar was killed in that blast

DJ The 16 y/o son did get on NL-TV  with video's of how they tried to get out of Gaza...PM rutte visiting Israel today may have to explain why NL accepts Israel killing Dutch people in Gaza...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/22-october-spokesman-for-the-ministry-of-health-in-gaza-the[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/22-october-spokesman-for-the-ministry-of-health-in-gaza-the

Spokesman for the Ministry of Health in Gaza: The health system has lost all its treatment capabilities and the fuel needed to operate it

DJ, The "west" is unwilling to call a genocide a genocide-again. Ukraine killing over 14,000 Russian speakers in between 2014-2022, now Israel murdering thousends of Palestinians...

Western "politics"  from hiding pandemics, lies on climate collapse to ignoring genocide...

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The Duran; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQXLyrCi_0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQXLyrCi_0 ;

Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war

DJ, describing a feeling prior to the US attack on Iraq in 2003...In 2023 the US-with still support from the UK and some EU countries-are preparing to "attack an axis of evil"...

This time however-US "democrats anti Russia, republicans anti-China-a compromise has been made...The US is pushing for war with BOTH Russia AND China...

Of course it is a total insane idea...however the war in/for Ukraine could and should have been avoided, a crisis in this form in the Middle East also only is getting the "west" more isolated...

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My view; US/NATO forces may be used "to stop Iran" in Lebanon, Syria so Israel can "kick out Palestinians" from Gaza...

Totally insane...It will bring Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE (all three new BRICS members) Türkiye even Jordan closer to Iran...

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Does this "west" have the means for major global war ? NO !!! It will have to fall back to nuclear weapons within days of multi front war... It is OUT OFF shells/grenades, ammo, even trained soldiers...Fuel/logistics soon will get very problematic...

Still it does not stop "crazy joe" and "his gang"...The Duran mentioned a claim Atacms-US weapons were used in a major attack against Russia in Ukraine...and failed...But yet another sign of the US-biden-pushing for more war...

De-dollar-ization, further limiting energy export to the west, dumping US bonds, all increase US/western inflation...But it still may not be enough to push the US "elite" to realizing the destructive crazyness they are doing...

MULTIPOLARITY AT WORK So Israel has been bombing the CIVILIAN airports of Damascus and Aleppo. With total impunity. Not a peep by the "rules-based" vassals. Israeli "logic": Iran may send weapons to Syria, and beyond, using these airports. 

DJ, Iran now could be using the Russian military base in Syria-with very high air defense...Still Israel may shoot down Iran planes over Syria " in self defense"...Israel killed over 5,000 Palestinians in Gaza, over 100 on the West Bank " in self defense"...western "values" are lies...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gaza-death-toll-surpasses-5000-amid-un-eu-calls-ceasefire-us-increases-deterrence[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gaza-death-toll-surpasses-5000-amid-un-eu-calls-ceasefire-us-increases-deterrence ;

Russia Accuses US Of Stoking "Escalation" By Mideast Force Build-Up As Pentagon Blames Iran

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Update(1845ET): Russia has weighed in strongly against the additional US warships recently sent by the Pentagon to the Middle East region, saying this heightened US presence only serves as a risk of "escalation" of the conflict in Gaza.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday during a meeting Tehran that "the more a state takes this kind of proactive measures, the greater the risk and the danger of an escalation of the conflict". He called out Washington as "already among the countries intervening the most" since the October 7 Hamas terror attack. 

The same day, the Pentagon said it believes Iran-backed groups in the region are planning to ramp up attacks on US forces in the region. This came amid continuing sporadic drone and missile strikes against US bases in Syria and Iraq.

DJ, The Duran does not see any sign/room left for diplomacy...The US "only makes deals to break deals"....Outcome is if the US wants war it may get a "bloody nose"...as a sort of last warning...
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I did write a story about growing political crises in the "west"...but internet of this site failed...

So in short for Gaza/Middle East-now with also mass murders by Israel (settlers) in the West Bank;

-NATO calls these war crimes "self defense"

-Israel is trying to pull NATO into a war with Iran by attacking (Iran)targets in Syria/Lebanon

-Türkiye-Iran-Arab States (TIA) may decide to follow one strategy

DJ-TIA could go for another oil-boycot of the west-no longer selling oil/gas to countries that support Israel

TIA also could end US bases/close air space for NATO air force

TIA needs Russian and Chinese supplies when they move into a war with Israel/NATO

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In Europe, UK, US both political and economic crises worsen...US houses need a yearly income of 114,000 US$ with the average US income 75,000 US$...in most of Europe the (neo-liberal) politics also created a major housing problem...

[url]https://www.dw.com/en/wagenknecht-a-far-left-challenge-to-germanys-far-right-afd/a-66470345[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/wagenknecht-a-far-left-challenge-to-germanys-far-right-afd/a-66470345Many analysts have speculated that Wagenknecht's unique political position — left-wing on economic issues, but closer to the far-right on issues like immigration and gender diversity — could pose a threat to the recently surging AfD.

See also [url]https://buendnis-sahra-wagenknecht.de/[/url] or https://buendnis-sahra-wagenknecht.de/ 

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In Ukraine the pro-NATO forces are at breaking point. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-37_(missile)#Design[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-37_(missile)#Design is destroying the Ukraine (western made) air force...also western F16's may have no chance...

Russia may be preparing its position in Syria. If need be Russian radar/weapons cover ALL of the Middle East. US carrier groups in the eastern mediterranean and Red Sea may be of little use when countries in the region close the sky/sea...

BRICS+ is now pushed to become not only the major economic but also military bloc...The big question is do the 8 to 10 leading US political figures still have any contact with reality...Or do they think this is 1941 in stead of 2023 ? 

One crazy US idea is Saudi Arabia did join BRICS to get US nuclear weapons...simply ignoring Asia now is THE major global economy...

There is an "idea" the US is still the axis/center of the globe...Both Europe and the UK may have no other option left than to break with this US...

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DJ, 

-The goal of a groundwar in Gaza;

For Israel it would get NATO to fight Iran....

Did Israeli security "fail by order" to let october 7 Hamas-terror act happen ? A sort of 9-11 for Israel-to "open doors to conflicts" the west was unwilling to fight ?

Is the "game" of claiming "Hamas = IS" a netanyahu made excuse to kill Palestinians by the thousends ? 

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The US has a "BRICS+-problem". In fact BRICS+ is the most powerfull organization in the world...

The provoked war in Ukraine (from 2014-22 Ukraine killed over 14,000 Russian speakers, after the Munich security conference december 2021 zelensky claimed not only Ukraine would join NATO...it also would get nuclear weapons...If that is NOT provocation than what is ????) failed to break up BRICS or -even- Russia...

Sanctions did not break Russia, blowing up Nordstream (US job) further damaged the west...Russia managed to shift its trade even more to Asian markets..(the 2014 western sanctions did damage to fruits-trade from NL to Russia...Russia grew more fruits itself and imported more from Türkiye, Iran...)

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So will a "ground war in Gaza" start a NATO-BRICS+ open war ? 

NO !!! But it may see further limits of energy trade with the west...pushing up energy prices/inflation...

It may see West Asia/North Africa closing US/NATO bases

It may even bring the closure of airspace for western airlines for much more countries...Western airlines are not allowed over Russia...If these airlines -also facing higher energy costs, supply problems-now also are no longer allowed over much of West Asia, Africa (Latin America ?) these airlines can "jump"from North America to Europe and back...

BRICS+ "economic weapons" can do much more damage than a lot of "old fashioned" weapons...De-$-ization can push the US into a major financial crisis...the US has to deal with its own massive debts...Maybe the "EU-puppet leaders" want to "buy" US-debts and combine it with "Ukraine in the EU by 2030"...In fact blowing up the financial backbone of the EU...bankrupting it...

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If the US wants war they have to start war...

Russia-Iran-China are ready for it...North Korea, Belarus, Syria, Iraq a.o. also are prepared..."Make trade not war" is the BRICS+ motto by now...The US/NATO need war...

BRICS+ may be trying to take away any economic basis for NATO to be able to fight a war...Of course China will not export goods to NATO that enable NATO to fight a war with China...

One of the BRICS+ idea's is to invest in countries the west kept poor...So those countries do no longer export coffee-beans at low prices but ready-to-use coffee at high prices..No longer raw materials but finished products and profits staying inside the country...

The days France could steal uranium and gold from Niger are over...The western neo-colonialism kept the rest of the world in (extreme) poverty...

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Democracy and human rights go hand-in-hand...

It is the west that "played" with both...If you are black and born in Africa you have to stay poor and inside Africa...If you speak Spanish you are a "Latino"....NOT welcome -legally-in the US...

East Europeans do the jobs no "normal person" in the EU/UK wants to do...high risk-low pay...If the job is over the housing is gone...

HCW-ers shortage because of Long CoViD, high risk-bad hours-low pay ? We "import HCW-ers ! 

The cynicism "our leaders" demonstrate is beyond borders...

Russian "terror" is "Israeli right of self defense"....double standards and NO morality...

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The reason this "disinformation" is not yet censored is because hardly anyone reads it..."Our leaders" know the truth...censorship a new -widespread- normal...

"Social media" and MSM both in the hands of a war-industry means "government is not cesoring"...blame the companies...censorship outsourced...

As long as "the masses" buy this kind of insanity "1984 XL" only will get worse...George Orwell would be shocked...

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DJ-I was wrong in february 2022. I did not think Russia would move into Ukraine-they had other means to put pressure on their view (energy, air space/transport). 

So I may be wrong again today...Maybe Iran, Russia, China will start an(other) "military action/war"....The Duran (a.o.) mentioned US neo-cons only may wake up if they get a "bloody nose"...

US bases in Syria, Iraq may become targets...no air defense may be able to deal with blockades denying logistics to those US/NATO bases...With military action goal destroying logistics and supplies to make those US/NATO positions impossible...

Another escalation may be in Yemen Houthi's "by accident" blowing up a US (or UK) major navy ship...A small missile/drone itself may not be able to do much damage...but it can explode ammo-storage/fuel if it can reach such an area...

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Linking health to war; [url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/emerging-diseases-other-health-threats-alphabetical-a-thru-h/childhood-diseases/measles/980147-israel-2023-measles[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/emerging-diseases-other-health-threats-alphabetical-a-thru-h/childhood-diseases/measles/980147-israel-2023-measles ;

Updated: OCTOBER 6, 2023 15:15

Four Israeli children from the same kindergarten in Tel Aviv have been confirmed to be infected with measles, the Health Ministry said Friday.

A fifth child is suspected of being infected but has not been confirmed as of yet...

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OCTOBER 26, 2023 11:30

A total of nine cases of measles cases were discovered in Tel Aviv last month, according to the Health Ministry, whose epidemiologists found a connection among all of them. Although those infected were considered mild cases with a rash and fever, the virus is very contagious and may lead to severe and even life-threatening complications.

The ministry continues to carry out an epidemiological investigation and to look for those who were in contact with the sick patients to check whether they had received the protective vaccine against the disease...

DJ ;[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/middle-east/all-other-diseases-aa/980825-gaza-sloppy-cnn-reports-outbreak-of-smallpox-in-gaza-has-to-be-an-error-right-probably-chickenpox-october-23-2023#post980831[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/middle-east/all-other-diseases-aa/980825-gaza-sloppy-cnn-reports-outbreak-of-smallpox-in-gaza-has-to-be-an-error-right-probably-chickenpox-october-23-2023#post980831 latest;


Come on CNN - get with it. Don't just casually report a smallpox outbreak in Gaza with no details. Get an editor who knows something about infectious diseases to take a look at your copy BEFORE it goes out on the wires.

We are going to be watching this, however.

May indicate how "media" are doing a bad job...

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The "rest" of the world may no longer accept an Israeli mass murder in Gaza, settlers killing Palestinians on the West Bank. The 'west" may still talk to netanyahu and his extremists...Some of the Israeli cabinet members live in  (West Bank) settlements seen as illegal by the UN....

Part of the netanyahu agenda may be to "make Israel Jewish again"...With also annexation -in fact- of East Jerusalem/West Bank...

Another part of netanyahu long term strategy was to get "the west" to fight Iran...








And for those saying 'there's no intent', I suggest you listen to the numerous interviews given by Israeli officials stating 'there are no innocent civilians', calling them 'animals', and calling for "A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 1948"...

DJ, "the west" AGAIN making a genocide/ehtnic cleansing possible...Supplying the means for it...

A western puppet regime in Ukraine killed over 14,000 Russian speakers between 2014 and 2022...

At present Israel did kill close to 8,000 Palestinians in just over 3 weeks...

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It looks like Iran may have organized "the rest" of the world to stop another western major crime...








A common tactic in genocide denial is to try to dispute numbers. The strategy is to legitimize the genocide by delegitimizing the victims and questioning their very existence.

DJ..US attacking "Iran" targets legally in Syria and Iraq to "defend" US bases in Syria and Iraq against any international law...and than claim "it has nothing to do with the Israeli mass murder" may indicate the level of western insanity...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoDzPIitIqM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoDzPIitIqM ;

Judge Nap:  Do you think that President Biden is under pressure from the globalists and neocons around him to take this as an opportunity, once and for all, to destroy the regime and its nuclear capability in Tehran? Alastair Crooke: I think so, yes. I think there's pressure. I'm not saying he's succumbed to it. I'm not saying it will prevail, but you have to look at it from the other end of the telescope too. In the region, people look at this huge build-up and they see, is America preparing for World War III?

A quote; crazy joe biden is more afraid of leaking weak than of escalation....

To end this update as positive as I can;

The "rest" of the world -by now- has that many ways of putting pressure on the west -without a major war- maybe we can avoid such major war...

-Energy boycot of the west

-No Fly zone over the rest for western airlines

-No more travel from the west to the rest...

We live in "interesting times"...

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[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/27-october-israel-announces-ground-operations-in-the-gaza[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/27-october-israel-announces-ground-operations-in-the-gaza

Israel announces ground operations in the Gaza Strip starting tonight

DJ, I expect very major escalation now is starting...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/oil-gold-dip-after-gaza-ceasefire-headlines[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/oil-gold-dip-after-gaza-ceasefire-headlines ;

Update(1340ET)Over the last hour there have been widespread reports that communications to the Gaza have been externally cut, and minutes ago Israel's military (IDF) spokesman has confirmed that ground forces are expanding their operations tonight, and simultaneously Gazans are being told to immediately evacuate the north and go to the south of the Strip. "Ground forces are expanding the ground activity this evening," the IDF affirmed. Below is more of the statement from military spox, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari

“The Air Force is striking underground targets very significantly,” he says, adding that ground forces will “expand” their activity tonight.

For the last two days, IDF infantry forces and tanks have conducted limited raids into the Gaza Strip. Hagari says the IDF will continue to strike Gaza City and surrounding areas in northern Gaza, and renews his call for Palestinians to evacuate to the Strip’s south.

“We are prepared to defend in all arenas. We are acting in order to protect the security interests of the State of Israel,” he says.

Maybe [url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/ could be of use...Lots of "channels" will give info from many sides...

[url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/27/israel-hamas-war-live-israel-bombs-gaza-overnight-more-than-7000-dead[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/27/israel-hamas-war-live-israel-bombs-gaza-overnight-more-than-7000-dead 

Replying to 
#Israel bombs #Gaza from air, sea and land NOW. It prepares for the ground battle and the "Battle of the Tunnels."

and

The Al-Qassam resistance is bombing Tel Aviv in the midst of an intensive bombardment. This means that the resistance is in control and is inflicting casualties on the Israelis. Al-Qassam has other means of communication independent of the #Israeli system.

DJ, no doubt on many other places "actions" may be prepared...IF Israel NOW is starting a major ground operation in Gaza all kindsa of "plans" may start...(around the globe...).

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/israel-war-week-3-reports.20695/page-22[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/israel-war-week-3-reports.20695/page-22 

[url]https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-27-2023/[/url] or https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-27-2023/ 

DJ-A mix of sources may -maybe- give a better view...But time will tell more...Gaza tonight 22c/tomorrow 30 C dry...some clouds, not much wind...

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Hal Turner may have done a good job in this story/update [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/al-jazeera-possible-ground-offensive-beginning-in-gaza-complete-communications-blackout-including-internet[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/al-jazeera-possible-ground-offensive-beginning-in-gaza-complete-communications-blackout-including-internet 

-Israeli forces moved into northern Gaza from three points with lots of tanks/soldiers

-Palestinian defense did -very likely- manage to destroy a lot of the Israeli forces

-Yemen fired missiles (again) at Eilat, Palestine mobilization on West Bank, Syrian shelling over Golan Heights

-HT ???? US Delta force involved in Gaza (on the Israeli side )....

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Today there will be widespread protests around the globe. Jewish organizations "not in my name" distance themselves from netanyahu and his extremist clan...

[url]https://conquer-and-divide.btselem.org/map-en.html[/url] or https://conquer-and-divide.btselem.org/map-en.html on the history of the conflict...In its basics; UK promised Jewish groups a country in what then still was part of the Ottoman Empire -[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration 1917.

Zionist groups did try to get a country for Jews since the 1890"s [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism  however Palestinians also did/do live in the Middle East region...

Religious aspects (christian, Jewish) claiming "god" did "give" the land to "the Jews"...One of the -present day- problems is Rabbi's decide who is a "Jew"...

Another point is a "Jewish State"...can you have such and avoid "apartheid" non-Jews becoming second class citizens...

DJ-My view;

-Israel can play a constructive role in West Asia...however the "Jewish State" is a problem.

-A two state Israel/Palestine solution may work..

-The present "Palestine" does NOT work ! Gaza-Negev-West Bank may have better perspectives...

-The "west" used Israel as a modern crusader-state [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Jerusalem[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Jerusalem to get oil/gas rich region under its control...

There are ways out of this conflict-however we are now sinking deeper in a very dangerous swamp. The "west" failed to "correct" Israel. Its far right Jewish extremists want Gaza/West Bank as part of a Jews-only Israel...That is a disaster...

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Risks of escalation...

Netanyahu claims Iran is working on nuclear weapons...Israel itself may not have enough means to end any Iranian nuclear programm. Iran claims it does NOT want nuclear weapons (for religious reasons). Still Netanyahu has been pushing for western/US help to "destroy Iran" (nuclear programm)...

Netanyahu hoped Saudi Arabia could help Israel against Iran...China managed to get Saudi Arabia and Iran working together-both are part of BRICS+ per 2024...So a "regional ally" for Netanyahu switched sides...

Iran is a major North-South link between Russia and India...for China Iran is part of a route west...Russia, China will NOT accept ANY western attack on Iran...very likely India may be in the same position...

Türkiye-Iran-Pakistan is the West Asia link between India, China and Europe...so also Türkiye and Pakistan can not accept any attack on Iran...

Iran is a major Islamic state...the west did break also an "Iran-deal" (mase under Obama...therefore trump had to break it...)..EU seems to be taken over by the US...

-Regional escalation; Very likely-Hezbollah from Lebanon and Syria...West Bank intifada/uprising...The Israeli army may have a major job in Gaza and may need to limit conflict-for now-in the north of Israel

-MENA escalation Middle East North Africa; 

DJ Egypt may end diplomatic relations...However starting a major war may destabilize (and radicalize) Egypt. 

Syria may give "fighters" room to do "their thing" ...Syria did have decades of non-violence on the Golan/Israeli border...Israel supported "moderate terrorists" in the NATO made "civil"war..

Lebanon also may leave the fighting to "militia"...

Russia is "in control" in most of Syria and seems able to "limit" (or not) Iran...

So...Israeli/NATO actions can decide if that MENA powder keg explodes...Israel/US attacking Russian positions in Syria could result in Russia blowing up both the planes and "bases" (even if it would be a US/UK carrier)...

World War Three ????

It was biden his choice to provoke Russia with Ukraine...zelensky 2021 december claiming Ukraine;

- would get into NATO

- would get nuclear weapons (after the fall of the Soviet Union Soviet nuclear weapons became Russian nuclear weapons..NEVER were Ukrainian..)

- would start an operation against Russian-speakers in Eastern Ukraine...

All three the ideas were agreed upon with biden...He wanted to punish Russia for "trump becoming president"...

BRICS+ soon could cover over half the global GDP...Per 2024 BRICS+ is 48% of global population, 43% of global oil...US$ based on debt is sinking...NO longer linked to oil/gas/energy

So "western domination" would end after 500 years...

DJ-The Ukraine war was avoidable, the present crisis in the Middle East can be solved...point is "the west" believes to be "superior"...If they do not give up that idea we are moving into all out war...In my view the "west/NATO" is the problem...

However under pressure NATO may break up...Türkiye may decide "this NATO" is an anti-Islam "club"...Poland already did see thousends of Polish "volunteers" dying in Ukraine... Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya have become NATO made disasters...

Romania, Bulgaria may decide the upcoming war is NOT their war...Orthodox Greece may see links with Serbia...also go for neutrality...

The present "governments" in NL, UK, France, Germany are hated by large groups of the population...Elections may NOT change the break-up of Government-Citizen relations...

So the west may become much more authoritarian...more censorship, "anti terrorism" laws for climate protests etc...only making matters worse...

DJ-Under pandemic rules governments failed in communication resulting in lots of protests...Somehow "politics" only worsened since then...became a closed cult-like group outside reality...

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DJ [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hrKBjENgU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hrKBjENgU The Duran;

Gavin Newsom goes to China, one-ups Biden and meets Xi Jinping

China does not want any contact with "crazy joe biden" but does welcome California Governer Gavin Newsom as a sign to US democrats...get rid of biden !

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuv_BYf5X98[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuv_BYf5X98 Lena Petrova;

MOVING FAST: China Sells $21 BILLION In U.S. Treasuries, The Largest Drop In 4 Years

DJ, After Russia -in 2014- now also China is defunding the US...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/interview-with-dominique-de-villepin-as-translated-by-arnaud-bertrand.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/interview-with-dominique-de-villepin-as-translated-by-arnaud-bertrand.html ;

We need a political perspective, and this is challenging because the two-state solution has been removed from the Israeli political and diplomatic program. Israel needs to understand that for a country with a territory of 20,000 square kilometers, a population of 9 million inhabitants, facing 1.5 billion people... Peoples have never forgotten that the Palestinian cause and the injustice done to the Palestinians was a significant source of mobilization. We must consider this situation, and I believe it is essential to help Israel, to guide... some say impose, but I think it's better to convince, to move in this direction. The challenge is that there is no interlocutor today, neither on the Israeli side nor the Palestinian side. We need to bring out interlocutors.

More on Gaza;

[url]https://stories.bringthemhomenow.net/[/url] or https://stories.bringthemhomenow.net/ faces of Israeli kept hostage by Hamas...

[url]https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/[/url] or https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ ;

Jewish Voice for Peace is the largest progressive Jewish anti-Zionist organization in the world. We’re organizing a grassroots, multiracial, cross-class, intergenerational movement of U.S. Jews into solidarity with the Palestinian freedom struggle, guided by a vision of justice, equality, and dignity for all people.

If you’ve been looking for a political home for Jews on the left in this perilous moment; if you’ve been wanting a Jewish community with justice at the center; if you’ve been looking to turn your rage and grief into meaningful, strategic action: Join us. You belong here.

DJ, It is WRONG to blame "Jews" for the actions of netanyahu extremists...Just like Hamas does not represent all Palestinians...

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[url]https://tass.com/emergencies/1697715[/url] or https://tass.com/emergencies/1697715 ;

KURSK, October 27. /TASS/. The Kursk Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) is running normally after an attempted attack on the plant by three Ukrainian drones was foiled the day before, the NPP's press service said in a statement.

DJ, Ukraine may become desperate...

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DJ, In Gaza Israel is trying to destroy the underground defensive infrastructure...tunnels, bunkers, storage...

The Israeli claim Hamas/other groups are using Palestinians as human shields is not very strong-with 2,3 million people in a stretch of land 40 kilometer by 5 kilometer...So Israel decided to first destroy over 100,000 houses on top of the underground infrastructure-killing by now very likely close to 10,000 Palestinians...

YES Hamas is keeping several hundreds Israeli hostage as human shield...Israel did arrest several hundreds of Palestinians a.o. on the West Bank -in fact also using them as human shield...

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netanyahu claimed "phase two" of the Gaza "operation" did start. However he denied/lied on this phase two being a ground war on a larger scale...

DJ-my view-netanyahu and his extremists government want to be able to deny the ground attack became a disaster...There are several "stories" on where Israel moved into Gaza. Some indications in the north of Gaza Israel did see very severe losses...

If Iran did provide Russia with drones for the Ukraine war than Iran will have offered Palestinians also "modern weapons". In Ukraine those weapons need to be long distance...in Gaza it is short distance, urban warfare...

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Another major shift is netanyahu NOT being supported by lots of people;

-Inside Israel there are lots of questions on how october 7 could have happened. How Hamas was able to break through the -supposedly- "perfect" border checks...How did para-gliders -on this scale- were able to fly into Israel ? 

-Also stories of Israeli forces/civilians (?) responsible for also lots of Israeli deaths during that Hamas attack...

-A third major point is-does netanyahu want to push for war with Iran ? 

Lots of Israeli's fear netanyahu may be the end of Israel...

-Outside Israel lots of Jewish groups are fed up with netanyahu...They do NOT agree with the Israeli mass murder in Gaza...

-Also lots of people -once supportive of Israel- are now disgusted by netanyahu bloodthirst...

Another aspect is Israel now "opening" a new list of enemies. Türkiye, Egypt, Saudi Arabia all want to show themselves as leaders of "the Islamic world"...Iran already was in a "covert war" with Israel...But Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia may now become allied against Israel...

The US/biden may have given Israel "a lot of support" ...but the US may find itself now in an impossible position...A lot of the US/western population does NOT support more wars...

Here in NL "our" neo-liberal PM mark rutte is trying to become the next secretary general of NATO...He "showed himself to be a very good friend of Israel" hugging netanyahu last week...

NATO may be even get more split; 

-Türkiye could even join military action against Israel...

-SE Europe does not want yet another war on the EurAsian border...their economy is getting destroyed..

-UK, Germany, France "government" tried to forbid pro-Palestine demonstrations-but the support for those demonstrations is massive...

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From a military perspictive;

-The EU long term idea was to avoid wars...Via NATO Europe/UK played a limited role in Middle East/North Africa (MENA) wars...

-US has a stronger military...but the Ukraine war did push the US over its limits...The US turned out NOT to be able to fight long wars with strong enemies...Russia did beat NATO in Ukraine by production...More weapons, logistics/language in Russian favour...

-Israel can NOT fight a major war without foreign help...The EU/UK can NOT provide that help...and very likely-even if the US would "dump" Ukraine the US could NOT provide enough military aid...

-The "west" now finds itself even more isolated from the "rest" of the world. 

DJ-Russia did close its airspace for western airlines...This did put western airtransport to East Asia in a bad position...If more countries close their airspace it could see US-UK-EU airlines getting marginalized..

Energy, raw materials have fallen into BRICS+ hands and are moving high speed that direction...

Western "debt based" currencies now face a crisis unimaginable...It will NOT go slow...US$, Euro, UK-pound could see their value drop to 5-10% of the 2020 value...Not only imported goods but also food, logistics, will see a price explosion...

The outcome of western insane foreign policy may make the "west" a new "third world" with starvation around the corner...Climate change, aging, also worsening the perspectives...

Russia may see more agriculture production due to climate change...Most of Asia has a relative young population...on top of lots of energy/raw materials...China has a larger production capacity than the EU-UK-and US combined...

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Nuclear option or talks ? That is the choice "western leaders" have to make...

In a "conventional war" the west can NOT beat BRICS+/the rest...The "wise thing" to do would mean acceptance of a multi polar globe...The problem is we do not have many wise leaders...

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I have seen some disgusting tweets about Jews recently. You're not in solidarity with Palestinians when you approve of the Holocaust. Genocide is genocide. When you approve of one genocide, you approve of them all. If you approve of genocide, your values align with the IDF.

DJ, In a recent poll 60-65% of Israeli's -at that moment- agreed with Israeli bombing of Gaza, 20-25% disagreed. Blame netanyahu and his gang for the present genocide...but also blame biden, rutte, sunak, macron, schultz for their "solidarity"...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/28/713600/Raeisi-aljazeera-Israel-ground-invasion-Operation-al-Aqsa-Storm%E2%80%99[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/28/713600/Raeisi-aljazeera-Israel-ground-invasion-Operation-al-Aqsa-Storm%E2%80%99 ;

During his interview, Iran's president said, “After Operation al-Aqsa Storm [was launched by Palestinian resistance groups], the Zionist regime has not been able to score any real victory, and this is a strategic failure [for Israel].”

He added, “The defeat that the Zionist regime suffered last night in its ground invasion of Gaza was the second victory [for Palestinians] following [the launch of] Operation al-Aqsa Storm.”

"Zionist regime’s crimes have crossed the red lines, which may force everyone to take action," Iran's president said.

DJ, like Erdogan Iran does see "Hamas-fighters" as "freedom fighters...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/29/713616/attacks-US-bases-Syria-[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/29/713616/attacks-US-bases-Syria- ;

Simultaneous attacks have targeted three military bases housing US occupation forces in Syria.

Citing sources, Lebanon’s Al Mayadeen TV channel reported that the US base in al-Omar oil field, east of Syria’s Dayr al-Zawr Province, came under shelling on Saturday night.

The raid, involving ground-to-ground weapons, caused explosions inside the facility, the report said, adding that the blasts were heard in surrounding areas.

Harab Cir bases in Syria’s al-Hasakah Provinces also came under a similar attack.

Meanwhile, drones of an unknown origin targeted the al-Tanf base in Syria’s Homs Province, near the Jordanian border.

There have been no reports of casualties or damage so far.

On Friday, a loud explosion was heard at the base that houses US troops in the Conoco gas field in Dayr al-Zawr.

DJ, the Gaza-genocide is a PR disaster for Israel...A realistic number of Palestinians killed since october 7 may by now be close to 10,000...

Another outcome is Türkiye, Iran, Syria, Iraq may work more closely to kick out US occupation forces stealing oil and gas...Both the Kurds and Jordan may now decide they can no longer support the US...

[url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/28/israel-hamas-war-live-invasion-under-way-as-gaza-cut-off-from-the-world[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/28/israel-hamas-war-live-invasion-under-way-as-gaza-cut-off-from-the-world ;

Israeli air strikes hit close to al-Quds Hospital

Reporting from Gaza

I live close to the al-Quds Hospital so the bombardment around it were pretty loud.

Because the kind of bombardments that are being conducted – air strikes or tank shells – are very powerful, they have an impact not just their targets but also their surrounding areas.

The hospital has not been directly hit, but areas around it have been targeted. This has caused a great amount of fear among patients.

The director of the hospital said they will not evacuate because doing so could result in death of patients, including the premature babies in incubators, and of those in the ICU unit. All of them, plus those taking shelter, total around 14,000 people.

DJ, western propaganda blaming Palestinian missiles for a lot of Palestinians being killed...The total lack of any morals by "western leaders" is becoming disgusting...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-vows-get-israel-branded-war-criminal-state-blames-west-gaza-massacre[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-vows-get-israel-branded-war-criminal-state-blames-west-gaza-massacre ;

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan raged against Israel in a speech given before a pro-Palestinian rally on Saturday in Istanbul. He said he is preparing to introduce Israel as a "war criminal" on a world stage, at a moment the debate over Gaza continues heating up at the United Nations. 

Erdogan said: "Israel, we will also declare you as a war criminal to the world, we are preparing for it, and we will introduce Israel to the world as a war criminal," according to a state broadcaster. Footage of the event shows that the turnout was huge, in the hundreds of thousands or possibly over 100,000 people gathered in the capital.

DJ, how long will Türkiye allow US bases, NATO military on their soil when NATO is supporting the Israeli genocide ? 

Plane loads of weapons meant for Ukraine now go to Israel...without US/NATO support Israel would simply NOT be able to kill thousends of Palestinians...

Very likely US satellite intel on Gaza bunkers is used by the Israeli war machine...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/hamass-october-7-attack-discourse-age-artificial-intelligence[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/hamass-october-7-attack-discourse-age-artificial-intelligence 

[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2023/10/28/gazas-underground-front-palestinian-strategy-beneath-the-rubble-in-the-face-of-israels-intensified-onslaught/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2023/10/28/gazas-underground-front-palestinian-strategy-beneath-the-rubble-in-the-face-of-israels-intensified-onslaught/ ;

In a significant shift from its traditional tactics, Israel has changed its approach to ground invasions. Instead of its usual strategy, Israel has now launched a series of ground operations against the Gaza Strip, both on land and at sea. A bombardment of unprecedented intensity has preceded this change. Despite urgent calls from 120 nations in the Security Council for an immediate ceasefire, Israel has maintained its aggressive stance.

However, the military gains for Israel from these actions appear minimal. The main result has been widespread devastation, with over 7,500 civilians reported dead, including a staggering 4,800 women and children. In the midst of this chaos, however, the Palestinian resistance has not been caught unprepared. Sources within the ‘Axis of Resistance’ indicate that the Palestinians had anticipated and prepared for the Israeli onslaught.

DJ, One has to question the possibility of a "military answer" to Hamas...Even if Israel would kill ALL Gaza Palestinians the present Israeli violence only worsens Arab/Islamic radicalism...

For every Hamas member killed -in this mass murder- Israel may be creating a few new "Hamas like" radical...Israel is destroying itself !

There's ALWAYS a crucial Pipelineistan angle. As relevant as Israel aiming to steal the natural gas reserves offshore Gaza to become a major exporter, Israel can be easily deprived of at least 40% of its oil if The Sultan cuts off the tanker transport link from the BTC pipeline…

DJ, Oil/gas on the Gaza coast may be part of the reason for Israel (and US) agression...








The  report of evacuation threats to Al-Quds hospital in Gaza is deeply concerning. We reiterate - it’s impossible to evacuate hospitals full of patients without endangering their lives. Under International Humanitarian Law, healthcare must always be protected.

DJ, If Russia bombs an empty hospital on an Ukraine frontline "western war-industry owned media" run out of words...The same "presstitutes" stay silent when US/NATO bombs are dropped on Gaza, Syrian, Iraqi hospitals....

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Will there be a "TIA" intervention ? 

Türkiye, Iran, Arab world all agree this Gaza mass murder must be stopped. 

Very likely there are talks with other parties;

-Russia is a major player in the region-may still be able to talk with Israel

-China, India also may be willing to try diplomacy....

-The Islamic World may be "thinking twice" on how to react to yet another western mass murder on Muslims....

-Hizbollah so far did show limited activity from Lebanon...for Israel this may be BAD NEWS !!!

DJ-My view, "TIA" is working on plans to stop Israel/west killing Palestinians...

-A first step may be an ultimatum-signed by a lot of countries...

-There now still is limited room for diplomacy...However if some western countries keep supporting Israel those western countries may be seen as Israeli allies...

-Russia could use electronic/cyber warfare...communications

-IF Israel does not stop/is forced to stop by its western "friends" we should expect further escalation..within days. 

-Türkiye, Iran, Egypt all have a major navy in the region. Also these countries do have an air force/missiles...maybe first used as a warning...

DJ-Very likely -at a certain point- BRICS+ and the Muslim world (including Indonesia, Pakistan, Malaysia-ASEAN/SCO) may decide to "enable"a group of frontline states to fight...

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DJ, People in Gaza are running out of food and water...Israel is claiming it did reopen watersupply but the bombing did destroy water supply lines inside Gaza...

Israel also "strongly demanding" the Gaza population north of the Gaza-wadi to move south...On what legal basis ? What legal basis is there a hospital has to move/kill their patients? 

Israel keeps claiming Hamas is using hospitals...very likely Hamas-members do get treatment in hospitals...This does NOT make them military targets...In a stretch of 5 by 40 kilometers-with a population of 2,3 million ANY Palestinian defense position is near civilians...That is what urban warfare is...Israel/western propaganda is claiming;

-Palestinian defense using human shields is non-sense

-A lot of Palestinians may get killed by Palestinian weapons-also is a lie; Israel is bombing/shelling Gaza now on a very high level for weeks...With Israeli ground forces moving in

[url]https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1718415025050697876/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1718415025050697876/photo/1 may give an indication on the parts of Gaza now under Israeli control...

DJ-The extremist netanyahu government is -in fact- calling Palestinians "sub-humans"...That use of words did see other mass murders like the holocaust...

NATO in general is still providing all kinds of aid to Israel. Without NATO help Israel would not be able to conduct this mass murder in Gaza and its terror campain on the West Bank. 

Since the US has most military means it is the US that has a major role for Israel. For now the US is sending in weapons, providing intel to Israel. 

The US also did and does provide Kiev with intel on targets inside the Russian speaking part of Ukraine. Ukraine is using cluster ammo, mining from the air, HIMARS against civilians in Donetsk city. 

Since at least 2001 NATO has to be seen as a terrorist organization...killing (a.o. by drones) millions of most Muslim civilians in West Asia and North Africa. The main goal is control over energy and gold, supply lines and keeping other countries out. 

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Iran is ready for a large scale confrontation with "the west"...Syria, Iraq may be willing to work with Iran but they both need more support. 

Russia may be a "partner" in talking with Kurdish fighters in Syria, Iraq. The Kurds are also a "point of discussion" for Türkiye-still a NATO member. 

Intervention to stop the Israel/NATO mass murder in Gaza is complex. 

One scenario that is very likely-within days-is opening up a second front from Lebanon and Golan heights. A plan could be disrupting Israeli logistics and communications. So ports, roads inside Israel would be targets. Military storage, baracks etc. also would be a target. 

Israel has been attacking airports in Syria, Iran transports via Iraq into Syria. Also Hizbollah/other militia positions have seen Israeli and US attacks. 

The major intervention goal is to stop the Israeli genocide. If that intervention becomes a genocide on Israel it has failed....so it will need to concentrate on military Israeli (and if need be US/NATO) goals. 

Lots of missiles on civilian targets inside Israel may be counter productive.

-Wide public support for the limited military intervention has to be priority #1

-A wide "front" of countries supporting the intervention (if only in words)  also has to be a high priority. 

Türkiye may decide NOT to get involved military in an action to stop the Gaza-genocide. But it could distance itself from NATO and no longer allow US, UK to use Turkish bases/air/sea...

Russia may provide intel/advice and warnings/cover...The Russian Navy could show up to watch over US/UK/NATO ships in the area. 

DJ-So an intervention to stop Israel has to be well organized and pin-point on Israeli military means. 

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No doubt the netanyahu extremists try to push the US/NATO in a war with Iran...A lot of Jewish people both inside and outside Israel hate netanyahu...A full scale attack on also Israeli citizens would end up with more (western) support for netanyahu and his gang...

Inside NATO support for more war is dropping high speed. NATO is running out of a lot of (non-nuclear) weapons. NATO can NOT enable/fight two wars. in UKraine and Israel/Gaza/West Bank. 

One long term BRICS+ goal has to be breaking up NATO. 

DJ, My country-the Netherlands/NL-was neutral till may 10 1940. It was hitler that ended that neutrality...In my view the EU should be a "force of peace"-return to its post war ideals...

NATO was a US/UK tool against Russia since 1949. It did support all kinds of facist criminal leaders from Portugal, Greece to Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua etc. So present Ukraine and present Israel fall in line with the kind of leaders NATO should NOT be supporting if human rights and democracy were NATO priorities...

Again and again NATO does show to be a Neo-colonial Atlantic Terrorist Organization...defending oil, gas, pipelines and exploitation...The world would be a better place if this kind of NATO would go...

The post-war EU ideals were "never again war in Europe"...It did not stop European countries fighting all kind of (neo) colonial wars...However other countries did see the EU -once- as an example of how countries should work together for mutual benefit...It is a shame NATO did take over the EU...ended the peacefull ideals...

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Western citizens can show they want "better politics/politicians"....The public sector is destroyed to fight endless wars killing millions while making the planet less safe...

The pandemic(s) show an urgent need for better public healthcare (NOT for profit !!!) better public schools, public housing, public infrastructure...

We need to end self-destruction via foreign wars...

Every bomb on Gaza is also "damaging western citizens"! Because "we pay that bomb" and that money is NOT invested in schools, care, roads...

We deserve better !

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[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/biden-forced-to-call-off-his-plans-for-ethenic-cleansing-of-gaza.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/biden-forced-to-call-off-his-plans-for-ethenic-cleansing-of-gaza.html ;

The US is in active talks with Israel and Egypt to establish "safe passage" corridors for civilians in Gaza to flee ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the White House said Wednesday amid an expected ground offensive in the besieged enclave.

"We're actively discussing this with our Israeli and our Egyptian counterparts, we support safe passions for civilians. Civilians are not to blame for what Hamas has done. They didn't do anything wrong," National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters at the White House.

"We are actively working on this with Egyptian and our Israeli counterparts. Civilians are protected under the laws of armed conflict, and they should be given every opportunity to avoid the fighting," he added.

This all was based on a plan originally developed by radical Zionist within the government of Israel:

Leaked: Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse GazaThe Cradle - Oct 29, 2023

Israeli culture magazine Mekovit published on 28 October a leaked document issued by Israel’s Ministry of Intelligence recommending the occupation of Gaza and total transfer of its 2.3 million inhabitants to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula.

The document, issued on 13 October, identifies a plan to transfer all residents of the Gaza Strip to North Sinai as the preferred option among three alternatives regarding the future of the Palestinians in Gaza at the end of the current war between Israel and the Hamas-led Palestinian resistance.

The document recommends that Israel evacuate the Gazan population to Sinai during the war, establish tent cities and new cities in northern Sinai to accommodate the deported population, and then create a closed security zone stretching several kilometers inside Egypt. The deported Palestinians would not be allowed to return to any areas near the Israeli border.

Egypt of course rejected any such plans. As I had explained:

Netanyahoo's Strategic DilemmaMoon of Alabama - Oct 21, 2023

Israel, with the help of the U.S., has tried to push the population of Gaza into Egypt. From Egypt's standpoint that would be a humanitarian solution, at least as long as others pay for it. But it would cause a serious strategic problem. Resistance by Hamas and others against Israel would continue indefinitely, but Egypt would be held responsible for it. It can not and will not take on that burden.

Despite that logic the White House continued to proceed with its plan. Its request to Congress to finance the wars in the Ukraine and Gaza with up to $106 billion included these lines (pg 40):

Letter regarding critical national security funding needs for FY 2024 - White House - Oct 20, 2023

These resources would support displaced and conflict-affected civilians, including Palestinian refugees in Gaza and the West Bank, and to address potential needs of Gazans fleeing to neighboring countries. This would include food and non- food items, healthcare, emergency shelter support, water and sanitation assistance, and emergency protection. This would also include potential critical humanitarian infrastructure costs needed for the refugee population to provide access to basic, life-sustaining support. This crisis could well result in displacement across border and higher regional humanitarian needs, and funding may be used to meet evolving programming requirements outside of Gaza.

Russia had called out the plan for the nonsense it is:

Middle East and Central Asia. Lavrov on the interests of the USA and the West, parallels with UkraineBelta - Oct 28, 2023

“It is clear that such an approach is disastrous, because if the Gaza Strip is destroyed, if two million residents are driven out, as some politicians in Israel and abroad are implying, this will create a catastrophe that will last for many decades, if not centuries,” Sergey Lavrov noted.

Backed by Russia the Egyptian resistance against the plan continued. A phone call held yesterday finally buried it:

Sisi, Biden probe developments of Gaza escalation, reject displacement of PalestiniansAhram Online - Oct 29, 2023

During the call, El-Sisi reiterated Egypt’s firm rejection of policies that collectively punish and displace the Palestinian people.

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This is another failure of the dimwit policies cooked up by National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan and SecState Anthony Blinken as directed by their Zionist puppeteers.

I for one support all plans that would allow them to safely leave Washington DC. They can move to Antarctica or to wherever the climate is severe enough to cool their genocidal moods.

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BREAKING: @mekomit expose shows that the directive to deport 2.4 million #Palestinians out of occupied #Gaza and onto #Egypt and beyond has been officially endorsed by #Israel's Ministry of Intelligence on 13 October. A war crime in the making!

And [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohj-wHm9ICk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohj-wHm9ICk ;

Alastair Crooke: The Deterrence Paradigm has Failed.

DJ [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-tanks-reach-outskirts-gaza-city-cut-key-north-south-highway-after-netanyahus[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-tanks-reach-outskirts-gaza-city-cut-key-north-south-highway-after-netanyahus and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek#Amalekites_in_the_Hebrew_Bible[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek#Amalekites_in_the_Hebrew_BibleAmalek (/ˈæməlɛk/;[1] Hebrewעֲמָלֵק'ĂmālēqArabicعماليق 'Amālīq) was a nation described in the Hebrew Bible as a staunch enemy of the Israelites. The name "Amalek" can refer to the nation's founder, a grandson of Esau; his descendants, the Amalekites; or the territories of Amalek, which they inhabited.

it looks like netanyahu wants to "kick out Palestinians" out of "greater Israel"...(from the river to the sea...Israel XL)...

DJ-We may be moving towards the worst kind of scenario's...Erdogan (Türkiye) for now wants to lead "defense of Islam"...Some extremist push for a global war between Islam and christianity/Judaïsm...

Military Summary mentioned Ukraine supporting anti-semitism in Dagastan/Russia...Ukraine informed Dagastan islamic extremists of a flight from Tel Aviv that did get attacked...IS has had fighters on the Kiev-side...Russia did/does destroy IS in Syria...(the CIA is offering transport to "jihadists"...but places may run out...Yemen, Afghanistan. Libya once did see US/IS airlift...Türkiye/Gulf States once provided all kind of help to IS...(Turkish Telecom outside Mosul under IS rule...Gaziantep as a Yezidi-slave market run by IS in Türkiye...). 

[url]http://aina.org/news/20151220152953.htm[/url] or http://aina.org/news/20151220152953.htm ;

This month, the German television station, ARD (Consortium of Public Broadcasters in Germany), produced footage documenting the slave trade being conducted by the Islamic State (ISIS) through a liaison office in the province of Gaziantep (also known as Antep) in Turkey, near the border with Syria. In August 2014, Islamic State jihadists attacked Sinjar, home to over 400,000 Yazidis. The United Nations confirmed that 5,000 men were executed, and as many as 7,000 women and girls made sex slaves. While some have escaped or been ransomed back, thousands of Yazidis remain missing. Last month, after Kurdish forces recaptured the area from ISIS jihadists, mass graves, believed to contain the remains of Yazidi women, were discovered east of Sinjar. The German TV channels NDR and SWR declared on their website:

"IS [Islamic State] offers women and underage children in a kind of virtual slave market with for-sale photos. ... The transfer of money, as the reporter discovered, takes place through a liaison office in Turkey. ... "For weeks, NDR and SWR accompanied a Yazidi negotiator, who, on behalf of the families, negotiates with the IS for the release of the slaves and their children. ... the women are sold in a digital slave market to the highest bidder. 15,000 to 20,000 US dollars are a typical price.

DJ, Ukraine is selling organs for transplant to finance war/corruption...

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DJ, CoViD, flu, climate problems are getting worse...so "the west" starts destroying diplomacy and international relations...

NL may send up to 42 F16 fighter jets (50+y/o) to Romania in november so Ukraine pilots can get training for 1 year...also NL will send patriot air defense to Ukraine...

In Ukraine Russia is "killing" Leopard-2 tanks...UK challeger tanks are not even mentioned by Military Summary./MS..Lots of sources indicate Russia did destroy a lot of (western provided) Ukraine fighter jets with new-long distance (400 km+) air-to-air missiles...MS believes Ukraine fighter jets only can operate over western Ukraine...to far away for (UK made) Storm Shadow missiles to reach a front line...

Weeb Union/WU on Gaza [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96XS6CUauk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96XS6CUauk ;

-Concrete tunnels up to 70 meters deep...

-Israeli tanks NOT ready for drone warfare

-Israel encircling Gaza-City/North part of Gaza

DJ, The ground war in Gaza did start...Israel first denied that...WU mentions three lines of invasion by Israel;

-following the coast line

-NE Gaza

-Wadi-Gaza cutting the Gaza strip in half. (The video of an Israeli tank shooting at a civilian car was made in this area. Very likely a Palestinian family tried to move south and got killed). 

DJ, Israel did move into parts without much fixed defenses. No doubt Palestinians did try to stop them here. Still "fresh" and with still a lot of weapons-evere meter Israel can not move would be a Palestinian victory...

The US role in this Israeli ethnic cleansing in Gaza/West Bank is;

-US Navy in the Red Sea shooting down missiles from Yemen on their way to Eilat 

-Massive supplies flown/shipped in

-PR/Media campain

-Intel on tunnels & tactics (US has learned a lot on that in Iraq, Afghanistan)

-US boots on the ground ????? DJ-To do what ? Israel may have enough soldiers/special forces. US may have observers/advisors to see what weapons may be needed where..

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPsN81IIZtE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPsN81IIZtE

EU Values Are A Joke | The Monthly Daly 

If any western leaders speaks of "values" do you still believe them? Well you have either been living under a rock or watched only western mainstream. Luckily, not everyone in the EU is blind. Clare Daly and Mick Wallace call out the hypocrisy and what should be plainly obvious to everyone. In September Clare and Mick were especially fierce, opposing EU militarism, the "values" nonsense, and even the EU's own huge democratic deficit that make its agenda the opposite of what EU citizens want

DJ...the west defending human rights, democracy, basic values ? Please ! The rest of the world has had enough of western double standards...US wars are "good"...Russia stopping NATO is "bad"....

DJ, One of the reasons in february 2022 Russia started the Special Military Operation (like the Dutch started "Police Actions" in the former Dutch East Indies-not calling it a war) is Russia-AND other BRICS members !!!-may have given up on "talking to a west that only is listening/talking to/with itself"...

Lena Petrova/US [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlO_5dzOI2U[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlO_5dzOI2U ;

MIDDLE EAST OIL SHOCK: World Bank Warns Oil May Spike To $150 Per Barrel

she also had 

BREAKING: Government Grants Real Estate Developers $45 BILLION To Convert Offices Into Rentals

DJ A "premium Zero Hedge article;

After borrowing $1 trillion in calendar Q3, the US is preparing to borrow another $1.5 trillion in calendar Q4 '23 and Q1 '24, or a total of $2.5 trillion, and that's only for 9 months of the calendar year

There are limits to debts...The West is moving into bankruptcy high speed...

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It's truly an upside down world where asking that governments not kill thousands of children and civilians, and starve, and terrorise millions is a revolutionary act that can result in one losing their job. I'm completely disgusted.

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But those who support this, fund this, do this are hailed as the arbiters of morality...

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BREAKING:  Conservative MP Paul Bristow has been sacked from his government post after calling for a ceasefire in Gaza

DJ...there will be lots of diplomacy going on...

Türkiye making demands on both the US and NATO to stop sending bombs to Israel...if not Türkiye may choose to leave NATO and transfer US bases in Türkiye to "others"...

Türkiye may also be talking to Syria; Turkish forces moving via Syria to a northern front with Israel. 

Iran-Turkish talks on -possibly also religious aspects....Islamic countries beating the west in Israel...(a new crusaders war...)

The UN talking with Egypt on opening an extra border with Gaza...Maybe Palestinians with also other nationalities can move out of Gaza...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-tanks-reach-outskirts-gaza-city-cut-key-north-south-highway-after-netanyahus[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-tanks-reach-outskirts-gaza-city-cut-key-north-south-highway-after-netanyahus ;

Axios has revealed that the head of Mossad, David Barnea, made a secretive weekend trip to Qatar where he met with senior Qatari officials as part of mediation efforts to secure the release of Israeli and foreign hostages. 

According to the latest update, over 235 are in Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) captivity, and Qatar remains the chief third party communicating with both Tel Aviv and Hamas. But Israeli officials have described that the ground offensive was launched after it became clear that the talks had born no fruit. Barnea was in Doha as the ground invasion kicked off and progressed. According to the Israeli side's conclusions reached as a result of the meetings, per Axios

  • Israel made the decision [to invade] in part because Hamas refused to give Israel via Qatar a list of names of all the hostages it is holding, the officials said.
  • Hamas told the Qatari officials it is still in the process of finding out where all the hostages are located and their identities. But the feeling in Jerusalem was that this was just a tactic to buy time and prevent an Israeli ground operation, the Israeli officials said.

DJ, netanyahu is facing very much/wide criticism on security failure on october 7. 

Both inside and outside Israel there will be lots of questions if military action can end Hamas/Palestinian resistance...

DJ-Again my view; Every bomb may create a few Hamas/other "extremist"....War is NEVER an answer ! 

You have a choice; sit and talk...or fight-sit-talk...If you do not learn from history you keep fighting endless wars...only to sink deeper...

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DJ-My speculation; Even the US-by now-may have decided Israel needs to "cool down"....Israeli military actions in Gaza and West Bank may bring the largest genocide of the 21st century...

[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2023/10/29/ground-invasion-of-gaza-israels-fight-for-the-impossible-goal/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2023/10/29/ground-invasion-of-gaza-israels-fight-for-the-impossible-goal/ 

Possibly next secretary general of NATO -NL-PM mark rutte, close friend of netanyahu and zelensky already is isolated in Dutch politics with only his neo-liberal vvd backing him on his pro-Israel "right of self defence" stand...

Both NATO and Israel may not survive if we do not see an end to the Israeli genocide on Palestinians within a week...

-Türkiye could move away from NATO high speed...position of other SE European countries in NATO could be "on the move" as well...

-Israel is unable -even with lots of NATO/US help- to fight a full scale major war if that would bring in Syria, Egypt, Türkiye and Iran...Lebanon, Jordan may try to stay out of the war...but could get dragged into it via Hizbollah and West Bank uprising...

-US position in the Middle East-North Africa is getting impossible high speed as well...

So both NATO and Israel -once cooled down- may see a need to a ceasefire NOW !!! If they fail to do so we may be moving to an "end game"...

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLA-sWBmo9E[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLA-sWBmo9E Lena Petrova;

PetroDollar Death: China Just Used Digital Yuan To Buy Crude Oil For The First Time Ever

DJ, The "Global South", Persian Gulf -Oil-states, South Asia, Russia even India may be increasing the use of Yuan-China currency..

Linked; Bolivia did break ties with Israel, Colombia, Chile did call ambasodors home...Israel admits at least 9 soldiers killed so far in Gaza fighting...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/drone-yemen-intercepted-over-southern-israel-un-warns-war-spreading-outside-gaza[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/drone-yemen-intercepted-over-southern-israel-un-warns-war-spreading-outside-gaza ;

Update(1630ET)There's been more confirmation of the Israeli airstrikes on a densely populated refugee camp in  Jabaliya neighborhood, which lies north of Gaza City. Israel's military has owned up to it, saying an important senior Hamas commander who helped plan the Oct.7 terror attack was eliminated. Al Jazeera is citing health sources at the nearby "Indonesian Hospital" to say that at least 50 Palestinians have been killed, mostly civilians, and that number is expected to rise. "Hundreds" are said to have been injured and killed in the attack, per Sky News.

But when an IDF spokesman was pressed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer over why Israel chose to attack even while knowing hundreds of civilians were there, he essentially explained that eliminating the Hamas commander was more important than safeguarding civilian lives 

DJ, Israel seems to call ALL people living in the north of Gaza "terrorists" since they are not south of the Wadi-Gaza...with Israel moving from the east to the coast following that wadi (rain-river) cutting Gaza in two...and shooting at people still trying to get south...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/31/713758/Top-US-commanders-Tel-Aviv-direct-Israeli-war-Gaza[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/31/713758/Top-US-commanders-Tel-Aviv-direct-Israeli-war-Gaza (Iran) ;

A senior Iranian general says commanders from the US Central Command (CENTCOM) as well as the US Army and Navy have traveled to Tel Aviv to assist Israeli officials in their military onslaught against Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip.

“The Iranian Armed Forces have received information that commanders of the CENTCOM, as well as the US Army and Navy, have teamed up with Israeli commandants at an underground base in Tel Aviv to supervise and direct the Zionist regime’s brutal offensives against Palestinian people,” Major General Gholam-Ali Rashid, commander of the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters, said at a gathering of Iranian police commanders and officials in Tehran on Tuesday.

He added, “This shows that the United States’ measures run counter to its claim of restraining the war in the region as thousands of destructive bombs and missiles have already been sent to occupied Palestine, and directions plus support for ground battles are being provided [to Israel].”

DJ...the US goal may be to "control and limit" the war...Netanyahu would like NATO to fight Iran...US may try to avoid that disaster...

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The NATO-BRICS+ confrontation main front-my view-is economy, currency, energy...

US$, UK pound, Euro/€ are dividing NATO...The main reason the US economy could claim to grow was US debts further increased to new record highs...Soon interest payment will be the main item on the US budget...After Brexit the UK did not find an alternative for the EU...lots of indicators point to UK economy moving into depression...

The EU "strength" is its division...other countries/blocks always find an EU member to make deals with...Hungary, Slovakia now even talking with Russia...Most of the EU wants to make deals with China...in many ways want to stay out of any (US) conflict with Iran...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-trucks-threaten-block-border-crossings-ukraine[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-trucks-threaten-block-border-crossings-ukraine ...some "welcome" a "new war" in the Middle East to distract from the biden/NATO made Ukraine disaster...

Russia may have seen close to 100,000 of its soldiers killed...worse than the Soviet war in Afghanistan 1979-89...more deaths that the US did see in Vietnam...Ukraine may have had over half a million deaths...its economy destroyed...No sane western leader is serious of Ukraine becoming a NATO or EU member soon...

Further more-both in Israel and Ukraine "western weapons" showed to be far from superior....(Patriots did miss Yemen/Houthi drones in Saudi Arabia, Turkish Leopard-2 tanks got blown up in both Syria and Iraq-even when they operated in organized-integrated manner...). 

In Ukraine a modern NATO army was destroyed by Russia...

The "NATO-west" has lost its military means to enforce western exploitation to the rest of the world...

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Hizbollah did still not strike Israel on a large scale...Yemen did hit Eilat...Western media can not ignore the Israeli war crimes...Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International push for investigations of Israeli war crimes...

Every bomb, every Palestinian killed is damaging Israel...In many ways Israel has lost the PR war...tourism was a major source of income now gone...One could even claim Hamas wanted this Israeli brutal reaction...welcomes it...

Even in western propaganda-media there are questions on what the Israeli goals are in Gaza..."beat Hamas" !? By killing thousends of civilians ? And then what ? 

Israel claims it does not want to re-occupy Gaza...some documents hint in another direction...Pushing Palestinians from the West Bank -by setlers under IDF supervision-also is seen as ethnic cleansing...a push for "Greater Israel"...

DJ-Countries in the region are NOT ready for a major war with the US...Russia, China, some regional countries keep pushing for diplomacy...

Israel sooner or later will have to pull out of Gaza...or lose western support. It looks like netanyahu has no real strategy...

In Syria Russia did "pick its battles"...with Russia destroying IS...but Israel getting room to attack Iran goals in Syria and Iraq-at least for now...The push for war with Iran by the "netanyahu-gang" is failing...

Tne NATO west did waste trillions of dollars, pounds, euro's on crazy wars trying to stick to western dominancy via military strength...Asian diplomacy did show to be stronger..."make trade NOT war" is winning...

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In Gaza 1,5 million people are without a house -out of the 2,3 million...Still the US-ruled-west keeps sending bombs, intel to Israel...killing hundreds of Palestinians per day. 

On october 8 the Israeli "army" attacked Hamas positions killing both Hamas-fighters and Israeli hostages...blaming Hamas for the dead Israeli's...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/ pro-western info...giving some indications...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/iraq-moves-further-out-uss-influence-new-russia-and-china-deals[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/iraq-moves-further-out-uss-influence-new-russia-and-china-deals  ;

By Simon Watkins of OilPrice.com

With the U.S.’s current primary Middle East focus being on trying to deter a widening of the Israel-Hamas War, China and Russia have been busy cementing their influence elsewhere in the region, most recently in Iraq. This remains a key target for Beijing and Moscow to expand their presence for three main reasons. First, it could easily become the world’s top producer of crude oil within a relatively short time if the endemic corruption in its hydrocarbons sector was curtailed. Second, its geographical positioning in the heart of the Middle East make it a vital link in building a network of logistical connections from the east of Eurasia into the west of Europe. And third, together with Iran under whose enduring influence its operates, it forms the core of the spiritual, political, military, and cultural Shia Crescent. A flurry of activity in the past couple of weeks involving Iraq, Russia, and China underline how seriously all these plans are moving forward.

DJ, Iraq has seen what the US/NATO has to offer-killing over 1 million Iraqi citizens, supporting IS, destroying the country...

There are claims Hizbollah, even Iran, could start a second front-tomorrow...The "humanitarian crisis" with over 2 million people living in Israeli/NATO made terror-without water and food is demasking "western civilization"....






Omar Baddar عمر بدّار

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US Members of Congress are literally covering for genocidal Israeli violence in Gaza by comparing the innocent victims to Nazis. I have never seen a more openly racist and murderous climate in this country in my lifetime than in this disgusting moment!

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More genocidal rhetoric - 'there are no innocent Gaza civilians because there are no innocent Nazi civilians'... the racism, islamophobia, dehumanisation, and genocidal apologism is all there..

DJ....

Osaid Alser, MD, MSc(Oxon) 🗝 🇵🇸

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Another tragedy. Tariq Abu Obaid, one of the most skilled OR nurses and one of very few cardiac perfusionists in #Gaza who I worked with, was killed along with his family as a result of an #IOF air strikes shortly after he left Shifa Hospital #NotATarget  #MedTwitter

Israel is destroying not only buildings for healthcare...they are also killing health care workers...

To link Gaza with CoViD;


Dr Phil Hammond 
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@drphilhammond
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The @covidinquiryuk is a very powerful example of how “duty of candour” and “freedom to speak up” don’t work in public life. Witness after witness details how incompetent they thought the UK response was at the time, and yet nobody spoke publicly about it at the time. Why not?

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Many of us who witnessed firsthand the devastation Covid was causing & STILL IS CAUSING tried to speak up - loudly & repeatedly….& were ignored. & we STILL aren’t doing enough to protect our citizens. Covid is not over, it’s now triggering chronic disease. We need real change.

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BREAKING  🚨| The Conservative government IGNORED Covid safety warnings in schools because ministers 'didn't want to give an inch to unions'. Released WhatsApp messages at the Covid Inquiry have revealed: Gavin Williamson and Boris Johnson REJECTED calls for masks in schools…
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DJ, bojo did see CoViD as a "welcome solution for the elderly"....








In 2020, scientists who specialise in the 1918 flu pandemic warned clearly and explicitly: "Covid is setting us up for one hundred years of problems." Our leaders were warned what mass covid infection would do. They ignored those warnings🧵

So -with Ukraine collapsing Gaza as a new distraction ? More money being created to get the rich even more rich ? 

If "politics" is losing ALL credebility...go for World War Three ? 

Both the Ukraine and Gaza mass murder could be over NOW if biden wanted it to be over...NATO does NOT need to move east...A Palestinian State has been discussed for decades...And YES...Taiwan is part of China (UN even US accepted that idea...)

Climate disasters are getting a new normal-just like pandemics-just like for-ever wars...all three in a downward spiral...

DJ-The "rest" of the world only can come to one conclusion; the "west" is killing us all...Talking to idiots is pointless...

The rest can try to unable the west to destroy the planet...but US, UK, France, Israel are willing to "go nuclear"...even zelensky in Ukraine may blow up nuclear power plants to "save Ukraine"...Western citizens have to push for regime change...

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DJ, Today Hizbollah leader will give a speech on the Gaza/West Bank crisis. There is a lot of speculation on both that speech and other "developments/plans"...

Israel now is spending 0,25 billion US$ per day on military means in this war...Over 300,000 reservist now NOT in their normal job, tourism gone...The Israeli economic damage of this "crisis" allready is extreme. 

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/2-november-israels-retaliation-attacks-on-lebanon-have-already[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/2-november-israels-retaliation-attacks-on-lebanon-have-already

Israel's retaliation attacks on Lebanon have already led to the death of 50 Hezbollah members

DJ, The evening of november 2 -local time- did bring severe fighting on the Israel-Lebanon border...

-Will there be an ultimatum put on Israel to end the mass murder in the occupied area's ? 

I take HT with "lots of grains of sand"...I am proberbly one of the "left wing types" he may want to see executed...However;

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-russia-at-united-nations-israel-has-no-right-to-self-defense-as-an-occupying-power[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-russia-at-united-nations-israel-has-no-right-to-self-defense-as-an-occupying-power 

Israel has no right to self defense because it is an Occupying Power said Vassily Nebenzia, Russia's Permanent Representative to the United Nations, during a Security Council meeting this morning in New York.

Specifically, Nebenzia stated ""All the West can do is talk about Israel's right to self defense, even though, as the occupying state, it has no such right..."

DJ may be a good legal point...Israel may be defending occupation and repression...That can not be seen as "self defense" in any way....

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/flash-u-s-house-approves-resolution-on-iran-all-means-necessary-to-prevent-nuclear-armed-iran[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/flash-u-s-house-approves-resolution-on-iran-all-means-necessary-to-prevent-nuclear-armed-iran has a link to [url]https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hres559/BILLS-118hres559ih.pdf[/url] or https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hres559/BILLS-118hres559ih.pdf ;

Whereas international complacency toward Iran’s illicit nuclear program threatens the global nonproliferation regime: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives declares it is the policy of the United States—

(1) that a nuclear Islamic Republic of Iran is not acceptable;

(2) that Iran must not be able to obtain a nu2 clear weapon under any circumstances or conditions;

(3) to use all means necessary to prevent Iran 4 from obtaining a nuclear weapon; and

(4) to recognize and support the freedom of action of partners and allies, including Israel, to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

DJ...so "weapons of mass destruction" excuse-used against Iraq in 2003 -on false grounds- now returning to be used by the US "and a coalition of the willing" against Iran ? 

Iran has become an essential part of BRICS; linking Russia with India via the Caspian Sea, China with Europe...

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DJ-my non expert view;

-In the US lots of division on a "war with Iran"..."realists" know such a war may go nuclear in no time and will bring in most of Asia/Africa/Latin America against the west..

-Very likely the US may only find Israel as a usefull ally in such a war...Europe could even claim -in words- solidarity...In military means Europe may have not much to offer any longer. Ukraine did bring Europe over its military limits...

-Some "neo-cons/neo-liberals" still may believe a "show of strength" may save the "uni-polar world/western domination"...

-Hezbollah -so far- limited its acts of war from Lebanon-very likely coordinating further actions with other partners (Iran, Syria, etc.) however...the Arab/Islamic world can NOT accept these Israeli/western crimes against Palestinians...

-There has been a lot of diplomacy going on...Qatar-diplomats could have been working 24/7...however if diplomacy does not get "good enough" results for a "party" involved (very likely that party may be Israel-backed by the US) there are "limits" to diplomacy...

-Peacefull means (energy boycott, closing US bases, closing ports/airspace for "the west") may not "do the job in time" ...

-Western weapons did show to be very vulnerable...the "west/Israel" can be beaten...

So...there may be a coalition of countries willing to go for military action to end Israeli agression/repression/genocide...And they may believe to be ready for "war" by now...

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DJ-I did write this before; An anti-Israel coalition could go for military/logistic targets inside Israel, trying to limit civilian Israeli deaths... By doing so that coalition could try to get/keep international support outside the west...

Massive strikes against civilian targets inside Israel may cost international support...

However...Israel is not a large country...A major attack on it will result in also lots of "collateral damage"...Since military duty is "normal" in Israel a lot of civilians today may be military tomorrow...There must be millions of "reservists" in Israel...

An attack on Israel has to be strong enough to limit counter actions by Israel...A "one strike blow" to avoid/get out of a war...Of course that very likely will go wrong...

US/NATO forces in/near Israel may get involved...

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We are moving towards a very major -high risk- crisis...blinken visiting Israel today (hopefully not only as a Jewish person...his job is secretary of state...) may offer another opening...or not...

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A very good conversation [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv1P6FeJw3U[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv1P6FeJw3U ;

SCOTT RITTER JOINS ON THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL WAR, ZELENSKY'S DEMISE, PLUS MORE!

Stream starts at 2:02 
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DJ Some (very good) points;

-Hizbollah was trying to play a political role in Lebanon, Iran just joined BRICS/SCO...both more or less had given up on the idea of a (real) Palestinian State

-After october 7 Hamas ensured Palestine is back on the international agenda

-Scott Ritter once did see himself as a "friend of Israel" but he thinks netanyahu is destroying that country

-On Ukraine; Zalushny/Zelensky openly stated their offensive would break the land link between Crimea and Russia...So giving up the surprise element from a much weaker position...Russia knew what was coming...They were ready for it...

Only option left for Ukraine is restaty talks with Russia-end the fighting...Real friends of Ukraine would have accepted the Turkish deal april 2022 -or even better- avoided this crisis and not pushed for the 2014 coup...

DJ, Maybe the basic point a lot of commentators are trying to make; WE ARE DOING IT TO OURSELVES !!!

BRICS would not grow this fast if the west was not going full confrontation all the time...WE !!! pushed Iran and Saudi Arabia to make peace and join BRICS...WE push for lots of countries joining BRICS in Kazan-Russia autumn 2024...WE push Russia-Iran-China towards forming a military alliance...

WE-the west-stopped diplomacy and compromise...The US seem to think to be "better than the rest"...well the rest of the world-even the EU/UK may see things in a different perspective...

DJ-Both the UK and EU are in a very deep crisis...most of all political...Like with the US an "uni-party political elite" is trying to set the rules...Maybe that "elite" has less (longer) room in Europe ?  The BIG problem is a bunch of neo-cons with nuclear weapons still trying to push uni-polar -US- global role...

Scott Ritter mentioned the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option ;

The Samson Option (Hebrewברירת שמשוןb'rerat shimshon) is the name that some military analysts and authors have given to Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel.[1] Commentators also have employed the term to refer to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors have threatened conventional weapons retaliation, such as Yasser Arafat.[2]

The name is a reference to the biblical Israelite judge Samson who pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself and thousands of Philistines who had captured him,[3] crying out "Let me die with the Philistines!" (Judges 16:30).[4]

DJ, netanyahu and nuclear weapons -my opinion- a bad combination...

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[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-live-hezbollah-leader-gives-first-speech-israel-high-state-alert[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-live-hezbollah-leader-gives-first-speech-israel-high-state-alert ;

Summary recap: Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah's speech went for just under one-and-a-half hours, and while full of threats and ultra-provocative heated words aimed at Israel and the United States, this was not a declaration of war speech. But he emphasized that Hezbollah's full entry into war with Israel will be determined based on developing events in Gaza, and whether Israel halts its attacks on the Palestinian people. Shelling on the Israel-Lebanese border was reportedly ongoing through and by the end of the speech in Beirut (Nasrallah addressed his top officers via remote feed from a secure location). Some highlights from Nasrallah's speech...

All "Options" on the table

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US sent message to Hezbollah, warning its ships & planes will attack

Nasrallah related that Hezbollah was warned soon after Oct.7 that US ships and war planes positioned in the Mediterranean would bombard southern Lebanon if Hezbollah fighters escalate attacks on Israel. 

But Nasrallah said, "We will continue to infiltrate" and that Hezbollah's calculus will be "a civilian for a civilian" - meaning that attacks from southern Lebanon will be determined based on the intensity of Israel's attacks on Palestinians. 

"I assure you all options are open on the southern front. They can be adopted anytime," he said. "I assure you it will not be the end, this is not sufficient."

DJ, The US is VERY INVOLVED !!! in current events;

-providing all kind of weapons 24/7 by air, ship

-funding Israel now costs go high/income goes low

-sharing intel

-shooting down missiles a.o. from Yemen

-"self defense claim" while Israel is occupying Palestinian land (against UN decissions). 

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Around 1,50 S.R. discussing "teeth-tail"; Ukraine once had simple Soviet weapons; easy to repair...The "teeth" could deal with the Ukraine territory...The logistic-"tail"-does win the war...

NATO did push a lot of modern high tech weapons into Ukraine...but logistics is a drama...Poland has a lot of repair jobs if western weapons make it to return to NATO territory...Russia is keeping the fighting 1000 kilometer from NATO borders...

Israel has a "teeth" problem...Reservists may not be trained well enough to work with high tech gear...Infantery troops staying in the safety of an armoured car become a target for better -for the battlefield- trained Hamas fighters..(One dealing with "Trophy" anti grenade protection, secon d fighter blowing up the vehicle..killing the Israeli soldiers...) 

DJ-Israel only can fight a limited war...even with all the US/NATO help pooring in...

Do not expect a direct declaration of war by Nasrallah. That is not his style. He wants no one in Lebanon to blame him when the war escalates But it will escalate, and Hezbollah will go to the next stage.

DJ, The US made it very clear-they will defend Israel....with a few carriers/ships/planes and US bases spread widely in the region...The US is a "sitting duck" but fails to even get that point...

What is "saving" Israel/US for now ? 

-Countries have to find strategies and allies...get a plan together...

-Civil defense is major in a big war...It does take time

-Countries did not want this war...but can not accept netanyahu "greater Israel" genocide/ethnic cleansing of Gaza/West Bank

-There are border issues; Golan Heights-Syria, Sheba Farms-Lebanon, Mediterranean coast line with oil and gas...Lebanon, Israel, Gaza very likely Egypt, Syria, Türkiye want to exploit that energy

So...what is next ? 

Hezbollah is keeping over 90,000 Israeli forces on the Lebanese border...Other countries could "increase pressure" pulling even more Israeli soldiers away from the 300,000 in the South of Israel...

Stopping western support for netanyahu also would be "wise"; from energy boycot, closing air/sea-space/ports to ending US bases in the region...The "west" did see relations with MENA (Middle East North Africa) getting worse...it can get even more worse...

Another -less likely- option could be a "no fly zone" over Gaza...imposed by Russia from Egypt/Mediterranean...Russia has had good relations with Israel...Once Putin and netanyahu were very close...The 15/20% Russian (speaking) minority in Israel may be anti-Arab but may accept the fact that "Israel needs Asia"...

So-I hope to be right-NO regional war...it would also fit biden his "wish" to get reelected...He does not need energyprices going "explosive" hyper-inflation...

My (non expert) view is US/NATO military warn "the west" is NOT ready for a major war in West Asia...risks of it getting nuclear is unacceptably high...so de-escalate...

.....biden/NATO needs to "claim" they did not lose the wars in Ukraine, Israel...so it has to be "wrapped" as "compromise" maybe even a "western victory" (with Ukraine staying out of NATO/EU, a pro-BRICS leadership...a Palestine from Gaza-Negev to the West Bank...).

The other -only- option may be the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option ..a "west" unable to give up the idea of western (racist) domination..."We win or nobody wins"...nuclear blackmail going wrong...I hope we can stay away from that insanity...

Costs....

Confrontation instead of diplomacy bankrupted "the west"...Let me be very clear...most of the blame for that is with "crazy joe" biden...but neo-cons/liberals in the "west" did give him that room...

Certainly German "greens" deserve a big thank you; Claiming to want to save the planet the German "green party" showed itself as a bunch of crazy war-mongers...breaking every promise they made...Export of weapons to countries at war..."no problem"...Coal as a source of energy...

German "greens" are not a "joke" but an insult to hamanity ! WE NEED TO SOLVE THE CLIMATE PROBLEM !!!

But German greens did the worst possible job for the planet..even trump is more "green"....disgusting !

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DJ, Dutch (NOS) news; "A UN-school in Gaza has been bombed-unclear by who"...."Ukraine rebuilding"...western media, "propaganda-journalism" enable wars and genocide...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/4-november-now-in-amman-fms-of-egypt-jordan-ksa-uae-qatar[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/4-november-now-in-amman-fms-of-egypt-jordan-ksa-uae-qatar ;

Now in Amman FMs of Egypt, Jordan, KSA, UAE, Qatar & the PLO Executive Committee’s Secretary General, are holding a meeting with State Secretary @SecBlinken of US. Intensive Arab efforts to halt the war in Gaza, & provide necessary protection to Palestinians

DJ, Outcome, a.blinken; "a ceasefire will enable Hamas to reorganize".....

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/allahu-akbar-fuk-joe-biden-enraged-pro-palestinian-protesters-gather-outside-white-house[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/allahu-akbar-fuk-joe-biden-enraged-pro-palestinian-protesters-gather-outside-white-house ;

Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters marched across Washington DC on Saturday to protest US involvement in the Israel-Hamas war, stopping outside the White House to shout "Allahu Akbar" , "Fuck Joe Biden," and "Biden, Biden, you can't hide! We charge you with genocide!" -  while smearing red paint and pushing on the gate.

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[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/turkiye-recalls-ambassador-to-israel[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/turkiye-recalls-ambassador-to-israel ;

Protest Building Around Incirlik Air Base

The Humanitarian Relief Foundation (IHH), the Turkish non-profit that organised the event, said hundreds of vehicles were driving towards Turkey’s capital, Ankara, on Friday afternoon with many more protesters expected to join as the convoy stops in cities along the way, covering nearly 1,000km (620 miles).

Convoys departing from three other Turkish cities – Kahramanmaras, Kayseri and Van – were also expected on Sunday to reach Adana, where the demonstrators plan to encircle the Incirlik Air Base to protest against US support for Israel and to call for a ceasefire in Gaza.

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The Duran [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12vBE9DqhE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12vBE9DqhE ;

Biden White House aims to scapegoat Netanyahu

DJ, Lots of Jewish groups inside and outside of Israel HATE netanyahu....One of the reasons for the mass murder in Gaza is "bibi netanyahu" trying to stay Israel PM....

Both neo-con biden and blinken -in fact- support this genocide on Palestinians...

My non expert view; Hizbollah from Lebanon is balancing attacks on Israel without pulling in the US...Lots of countries are disgusted by the Israeli -NATO backed- mass murder...But maybe also -for now- see it as a form of Israeli self-destruction...

There has been a trend in/from Israel of Israeli citizens moving out of Israel. Anti-democratic netanyahu is a reason, but also the unhealthy mix of religion and politics...Rabbi's who decide who is "Jewish" and may get an Israeli passport...A marriage in Israel by definition is religious...even if both partners are not...

Israeli propaganda on the october 7 Hamas acts of terror-ignoring the Israeli overreaction (not only killing Hamas terrorists but also the -many- hostages, but also the "rave-party" that was attacked had a lot of Israeli defense staff dancing till the attack...) did mobilize a lot of anger...But the answer on terrorism can not be more terrorism...

DJ-my view-the netanyahu agenda is ethnic cleansing of both Gaza and West Bank...a "greater Israel" only for "Jews"...So far the "west" claiming Israeli "self defence"  (UK is defence, US is defense)...ignoring Israel is occupying Palestinian land...

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr997wlE1G8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr997wlE1G8 Military Summary ;

The Fall | Military Coup In Kyiv? | Pummeling Of The Dnieper Bank. Military Summary For 2023.11.04

DJ, MS claiming zelensky fired zalushni and other high ranking Ukraine military...Also zelensky would be claiming "Ukraine is doing the dirty work for NATO" and he-zelensky-has to be paid for organizing that "dirty work"...So far NATO claimed to be "helping" Ukraine in "self defense" against "bad Russia/bad Putin"....ignoring NATO is moving east..

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/the-ukraine-peace-talk-trial-balloon.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/the-ukraine-peace-talk-trial-balloon.html ;

A trial ballon has gone up on the NBCnews website. It is testing the public reaction to the upcoming U.S. and NATO acknowledgment of their defeat in Ukraine:

U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources sayNBCnews - Nov 03 2023

WASHINGTON — U.S. and European officials have begun quietly talking to the Ukrainian government about what possible peace negotiations with Russia might entail to end the war, according to one current senior U.S. official and one former senior U.S. official familiar with the discussions.

This comes the same week that saw a Time piece about Zelenski's unwillingness to consider the real situation on Ukraine and to admit defeat. The same week the Economist interviewed General Zaluzny who optimistically spoke of a stalemate at the front even while his army is on the cusp of disintegration.

Taken together the three pieces might well be part of a U.S. administration campaign to concede its defeat in Ukraine while blaming its Ukrainian proxy forces for the results of its blunder.

DJ, The "west/NATO" is paying Ukraine, Israel for the anti-BRICS+ wars...Both Ukraine genocide on Russian speakers and Israel genocide on Palestinians do NOT stop NATO help...

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BRICS (future) members by now know what NATO/west has to offer; genocide and lies...

A fitting strategy may be to contain that "west" and get it economically "beaten"....

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#Countries_that_have_applied_for_membership[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#Countries_that_have_applied_for_membership ;

A total of 14 countries[81] have formally applied to join BRICS, listed as follows:[82]

Potential further expansion[edit]

In addition, Afghanistan,[77] Angola,[90] ComorosDR CongoGabonGuinea-Bissau[91] Myanmar[92] Nicaragua,[93] North Korea[94] PakistanSudanSyria,[95] TunisiaTurkeyUganda, and Zimbabwe have expressed interest in membership of BRICS.[96] Morocco was alleged to have joined but denied that it had applied.[97]

DJ, autumn 2024 in Kazan-Russia new members will be chosen. 

Brazil-Russia-India-China-South Africa welcome Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates per january 24.

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/these-are-top-middle-east-exports-country[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/these-are-top-middle-east-exports-country Four of the new members are in the Middle East...Ethiopia is near the Red Sea...(and Djibouti with both a US and Chinese base...)

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DJ-Some US extremists with some European political idiots help try to push for war with Iran, China...Both in economic and military sense "the west" only may have nuclear options left...

In that "west" a large part of public opinion is against (more) war(s)....The economy is collapsing...

Political lies denied the ongoing CoViD-pandemic, Climate collapse bringing more and more extreme weather events...

DJ, We need global cooperation for humanity to survive...NOT war !

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DJ, The basic WRONG idea biden/western leaders had; US indispensable...US made rules "for the globe"...US "exceptionalism"....Based on that WRONG idea "western sanctions" did fail as a weapon...

Nothing, absolutely nothing beats the EUrocrat branch of Stupidistan. Sanction dementia and cutting off economic/energy relations with Russia cost the EU something like $𝟭.𝟱 𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻, according to Russian Deputy FM Grushko. That happens to be more than the total military budget of the whole NATOstan. Brussels now is a total slave of two  extremely shabby entities, the imploding Hegemon and Israel. This has got to be the most appalling moment in the combined history of European politics.

DJ...western sanctions are destroying the west NOT the rest of the world...

...so sanctions did not work...Western military is "superior"...Well it is not...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1dxG_z0tNE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1dxG_z0tNE Military Summary on Ukraine...DJ-zelensky still trying to push for Ukrainian attacks...to at least get some help from "the NATO west"...But zelensky in Kiev is isolated...

A trend may be Russia now more and more destroying bridges/supply lines and command centers...Since Ukraine is running out of trained soldiers "NATO" is no longer willing to provide weapons to untrained soldiers...Even a lot of "western liars/"experts" now admitting Ukraine can "not win" this war...

Still those "experts" claim a sort of stalemate...denying Russia did -in fact- beat NATO months ago....

Lena Petrova [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ZWPjcFMRU&t=398s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ZWPjcFMRU&t=398s ;

CRUDE OIL CUTS: OPEC+ Led by Saudi Arabia and Russia Extend Oil Cuts Despite Middle East War

DJ, OPEC+ meeting later this month, Russia and Saudi Arabia stick to production cuts...EU did buy more LNG from Israel..."did"....Of course if demand drops faster than supply price still may be controlable...EU gas storage for this winter may be over 99% full...However storage does not cover all energy needs...

Weeb Union [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGRJmBpeaOE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGRJmBpeaOE ;

Israeli army STUCK | Hamas Ambushes EVERYWHERE | Major UNREST In Israel & The World

DJ, Hamas may have seen the latest NATO disaster in Ukraine when they decided for the major october 7 terror strike...Still the other part-Israeli security faillure-Hamas was supposed to be stopped and destroyed at the Gaza-border ! NOT be able to set one foot on Israeli soil...AI-faillure does NOT explain all of the story...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/strange-u-s-announces-ohio-class-submarine-has-entered-centcom-area-of-responsibility[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/strange-u-s-announces-ohio-class-submarine-has-entered-centcom-area-of-responsibility ;

Whatever is coming is apparently HUGE!   At about 4:00 PM eastern STANDARD Time (GMT-0500) here in the USA, the Israeli Defense Force put out a message on social media that they have **NEVER** put out before:  "Pray for us."   It's all over social media right now . . .

DJ, Israeli forces are now in an urban jungle...They send in army dogs with transmitters/camera's to get a view on the tunnels...(DJ-poor dogs...)

In a "normal" military way Israel would be able to destroy Hamas positions in Gaza...however guerilla warfare, NO cover by infantry of Israeli tanks, is giving Israel a "very hard time"...Israel is bombing -flattening- populated urban area's....the mass murder goes on killing very likely over 1,000 civilians per day...to maybe also kill a few Hamas/other Palestinian fighters...

netanyahu in Israel now only at 24% approval...even worse than "crazy joe biden"....Still the US did send the CIA director to Tel Aviv, is sending MORE military to "the region"...

DJ-For me a big question...netanyahu wants NATO to start war with Iran...does biden support that ? 

Maybe another remark; "Countries" may get involved without much "showing". From cutting supplies/air space for US/NATO forces to electronic warfare...Israel facing communication problems...(and maybe even tech problems...electronics hacked...). 

So the "big picture" in the NATO - BRICS+ "conflict" NATO may be close to collapse...Very likely the only way out is start communication and end confrontation...

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdMiVnA6Az0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdMiVnA6Az0 Just have a think;

Global Energy Transition. Are we winning?

The Global Energy Transition is the most profound change to human civilisation since the end of the last glacial period about 11,000 years ago. There will be winners and losers, and as a result some are trying to slow or even stop the disruption of their established markets. We all know who they are! So how is it going? Well, the International Energy Agency says it can be done, but ONLY if there is NO NEW COAL, OIL or GAS exploration or exploitation from this point onwards. COP28 has now been completely hijacked by the oil industry...so is the transition a realistic prospect or just a pipe dream? 

Research Links IEA World Energy Outlook 2023 https://www.iea.org/reports/world-ene... OPEC Statement https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/pres.... Greenpeace statement https://www.greenpeace.org/internatio... Carbon Brief : Simon Evans EV Mythbusting https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck...


 NEVER FORGET : EXXON KNEW..! 
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/22...

DJ, The NATO-BRICS+ war is about energy...and energy links to currencies...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOdrMWmBjo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOdrMWmBjo military summary/MS; second 40 - "Russian oil/gas income in october twice that of september"  and oil sold at 74$ per barrel/G7 "cieling" at 60 USD/b -empty...

a bit later on; 2,40 Kyiv Post - Ukraine special forces fighting Wagner forces in Sudan...MS expecting the US to have endless amounts of money to pay for endless wars...

Crazy EU leaders are willing to open talks with Moldova and Ukraine (zelensky) on joining the EU...(corruption and minorities still may be an issue...Ukraine/zelensky hoping to join the EU in 2030) DJ-EU self destruction by overreach...

DJ-We need to reduce fossil fuel use if we want to "limit damage" to the climate...was the international political "bla-bla"...However GDP/economy/short term/US-petro-$ are top-ptiority...

So -YES- there is a shift towards renewable...NO-since GDP has to grow also fossil fuels are still increasing...(DJ-again thank you German "greens"...bunch of crazy warmongers lying to your voters...)

Lena Patrova; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLUGJdQ5RAo&t=546s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLUGJdQ5RAo&t=546s ;

The U.S. Dollar Dominance Is On Rocky Ground As The Global Majority Aligns With BRICS

DJ, YES the Suez canal/Red Sea with Egypt, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia joining BRICS did become a "BRICS-lake"...now 12% of global trade via that route...

DJ....NO !!!! Main economic growth will NOT be via trade with the "west"...

My -non expert- view; 

-NATO is no longer able to enforce ANY !!!! trade in $ or € ...countries may use those currencies...But using western currencies is weakening their own currency...So why do that ? 

-The "west" has not enough natural resources for its present consumption/demand...undermining further the $/€

-Also production capacity simply is not strong enough...cheap energy is "gone"...

-Including Ukraine/Moldova in the EU may reduce labor costs...but -a very likely next (insane) step could be Ukraine using the € (Euro) would make that Euro as good as worthless...

-BRICS+ countries/companies already buying those western companies that are of interest for them...(BRICS+ moving in via the back door)

-The "west" is without bot a vision and (sane) leaders...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWSRoYVjKk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWSRoYVjKk The Duran;

Biden sinks as war in Middle East escalates

DJ, After the NATO disasters in Iraq, Afghanistan now the Ukraine-NATO disaster "needs distraction" so -why not start a war with Iran ? 

Crazy "joe" may get re-elected because the public gathers behind the president in times of war....

DJ-US politics has fallen into the hands of crime-families...the (hitler financing) "bush" clan, the "clinton-clan" , trump-the-fraud and now you have the biden-crime family...

European "leaders" followed US "orders" -do not have ANY idea of themselves...

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[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/05/from-siege-to-exodus-the-looming-threat-of-a-second-palestinian-nakba/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/05/from-siege-to-exodus-the-looming-threat-of-a-second-palestinian-nakba/ ;

In an alarming statement that has raised tensions across the Middle East, Israeli Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu has publicly acknowledged Israel’s nuclear capabilities for the first time. This unprecedented admission has reverberated worldwide, bringing a new level of concern to the ongoing conflict in the region.

Adding to the international unease, Minister Eliyahu suggested the possible use of nuclear force as a ‘possible solution’ to the conflict with Gaza. This stance has provoked widespread condemnation and raised serious ethical questions. The minister’s comments have sparked a wave of outrage within Israel itself, with critics condemning his apparent disregard for the lives of 240 people reportedly being held in Gaza but not the broader implications of using nuclear weapons against a civilian Palestinian population in the modern era.

Adding to the controversy, Eliyahu has spoken out against the provision of humanitarian aid to Gaza, making a controversial comparison to withholding assistance from the Nazis and claiming that there are no innocent civilians in the enclave. These comments have intensified the debate over the humanitarian situation in Gaza and the conduct of warfare in densely populated areas, which violate international laws and confirm the committed crimes against humanity.

This revelation comes against a backdrop of unrelenting conflict, as Palestinian resistance forces continue to launch attacks deep into Israeli territory, including the heart of Tel Aviv. Despite encirclement and relentless bombardment by sea, air and land, the resistance in Gaza continues as Israeli troops advance deeper into the northern sectors of Gaza City.

DJ, The netanyahu-cult of extremists push for a "Greater Israel" with only "Jews"...Gaza is step 1, West Bank step 2...

Claiming "self defense" the west is not stopping this genocide but helping it....So...what is keeping "non western countries" stopping this crime ? 

-Nuclear weapons from both Israel and US....

In Ukraine zelensky may attack/blow up nuclear power plants to "get his way"...

We are in an era of nuclear black mail...

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Judge Napolitano/D.McGregor [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummiGWp3KBg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummiGWp3KBg ;

Col. Douglas Macgregor: America’s failed diplomacy.

DJ, Some (in the US, Israel, NATO) are "waiting for an excuse to attack Iran";

Since Hezbolla, Shia-militia's in Syria/Iraq attacking US bases, Yemen-Houthi's ALL are supposed to represent Iran (and have no will of their own-in some "western view") ;

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-rare-move-advertises-location-nuclear-capable-submarine-near-israel[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-rare-move-advertises-location-nuclear-capable-submarine-near-israel ;

Update(1410ET): At what is obviously a highly dangerous moment where the United States has two carrier strike groups and a nuclear-powered submarine parked in regional waters (a rare build-up even during the prior "global war on terror" years), Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis have launched a wave of drones toward Israel

Yemen’s Houthis launched a new batch of drones against sensitive targets inside Israel on Monday, according to a statement from their armed forces broadcast by TV channel Al Masirah.

The statement said the targets of the drones were “varied and sensitive” and led to halting the movement in the targeted bases and airports for hours.

It's unclear how effective they were in reaching Israeli territory, if at all. So far the Yemeni rebels have sent a handful of missiles toward Israel, reportedly with no casualties or damage. The Houthis last week declared "war" on Israel, though their launch sites remain a great distance away from reaching Israeli territory.

-So Yemen...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/07/714162/US-military-bases-eastern-Syria-northern-Iraq-targeted-drones[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/07/714162/US-military-bases-eastern-Syria-northern-Iraq-targeted-drones ;

Two major US-run military bases in Syria’s northeastern province of Hasakah and Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdistan region have been once again targeted by drones, amid smoldering anti-US sentiments in the region over its unconditional support for Israel’s onslaught on the Gaza Strip.

Citing local sources speaking on condition of anonymity, Lebanon’s Arabic-language al-Mayadeen television news network reported that several unmanned aerial vehicles struck targets inside the US military installation near al-Khadra village in Hasakah province early on Tuesday morning.

There were no immediate reports about the extent of damage at the military facility, and possible casualties.

Earlier, a drone attack targeted US forces based near the Erbil International Airport.

-Militia's in Syria, Iraq, against illegal US military in their countries...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/5-november-al-qassam-brigades-continue-to-fire-rockets-barrages[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/5-november-al-qassam-brigades-continue-to-fire-rockets-barrages and [url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/6-november-sirens-in-northern-israel[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/6-november-sirens-in-northern-israel 

both-still from Gaza and Lebanon rockets fired on Israel...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/07/714165/Israel-relies-mercenaries-war-Gaza-Report[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/07/714165/Israel-relies-mercenaries-war-Gaza-Report ;

The Israeli army has reportedly hired foreign mercenaries, including a notorious Spanish group, to use in its brutal war on the besieged Gaza Strip.

El Mundo, a major Spanish newspaper, interviewed Pedro Diaz Flores, a notorious Spanish mercenary, who said “many” mercenary groups have joined Israel’s army that pays them “very well.”

“So I came for economy, for money. They pay very well, they offer good equipment and the work is calm. It is 3,900 euros [$4,187] per week, complementary missions aside,” he said of his motives for joining the Israeli forces.

Pedro Diaz Flores previously fought alongside neo-Nazis in Ukraine after Russia began a special military operation in the country’s Donbas region last year.

“We only provide security support to arms convoys or the troops of the Israeli armed forces that are in the Gaza Strip. We do not fight Hamas directly, nor are we involved in assault operations,” he claimed.

“We are in charge of the security of the checkpoints and access control on the borders of Gaza and Jordan. There are many PMCs (private military companies) here and they share the work. Traditionally they have guarded border terminals between Eliat and Aqaba,” he added.

DJ, paid by US tax dollars ? 

[url]https://news.antiwar.com/2023/11/06/us-to-transfer-320-million-in-precision-bombs-to-israel/[/url] or https://news.antiwar.com/2023/11/06/us-to-transfer-320-million-in-precision-bombs-to-israel/

The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that the Biden administration is planning a $320 million transfer of precision-guided bomb kits to Israel, a show of support for the Israeli onslaught despite the growing civilian death toll.

The report said the administration notified congressional leaders on October 31 that it intended to transfer Spice Family Gliding Bomb Assemblies, which turn unguided bombs into precision-guided munitions that can be fired by Israeli warplanes.

The bombs will be transferred from weapons manufacturer Rafael USA to its Israeli parent company, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. It’s unclear what funds will be used for the transfer or if Israel is purchasing the equipment.

Israel receives $3.8 billion in annual military aid from the US, and the Biden administration is looking to provide another $14 billion to support the Gaza campaign. In the wake of the October 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel, the US began immediately shipping new military equipment to Israel.

There are claims Israel did see 350+ soldiers killed in the Gaza fighting...With the major horror of urban fighting still in the future...If one includes the military killed on october 7 Israel may see the heaviest losses since the 1948 , 1973 wars...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel ...

DJ-netanyahu may push for distraction by a war with Iran to hide the genocide on Palestinians.  Both the US and NATO still support Israel/netanyahu in this insanity...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/06/714143/Iran-India-Ebrahim-Raeisi-Prime-Minister-Narendra-Modi-Gaza-Palestine-Israel-blockade-aid-attacks-ceasefire-[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/06/714143/Iran-India-Ebrahim-Raeisi-Prime-Minister-Narendra-Modi-Gaza-Palestine-Israel-blockade-aid-attacks-ceasefire- ;

Iranian President Ebrahim Raeisi says the Islamic Republic supports any joint global effort seeking to establish an immediate ceasefire in Gaza as Israel continues its brutal attacks on the besieged Gaza Strip.

Speaking in a phone call with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Monday, Raeisi added that Iran backs collective bids to lift the blockade on Gaza and provide aid to the oppressed Palestinian people in the war-hit territory.

"The continuation of the killing of the Palestinian people has infuriated all the free nations in the world,” the president said, warning that the killings will have “extra-regional consequences.”

It would be "unfair and unrealistic" to carry out any analysis of the recent Israeli crimes in Gaza without paying heed to the root causes, the president emphasized.

He said all nations condemn the "unacceptable" killing of the oppressed and innocent Palestinian women and children, as well as attacks on hospitals, schools, mosques, churches and residential areas.

DJ, South Africa pulled back its ambassador in Israel...In World War One (British)I ndian troops did fight Turkish/Ottoman forces in [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Gaza#Attackers[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Gaza#Attackers 

The number of countries that can mediate is getting smaller....

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yA0ONKQ-60[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yA0ONKQ-60 ;

Ukraine Started A Purge In Military Circles | Zaluzhny Is In Danger. Military Summary For 2023.11.07

Military Summary; a comment;

This was an assassination attempt on Zaluzhny.  Zelenski is trying to reduce his opposition but this failed attempt will now "warn" Zaluzhny and may just force him into taking action against Zelenski. Very interesting power play going on.

[url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/6-november-commanderinchief-of-ukraine--zaluzhny-confirmed[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/6-november-commanderinchief-of-ukraine--zaluzhny-confirmed 

Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine Zaluzhny confirmed the death his assistant Major Chestyakov as result of explosion of unknown device

DJ, Ukraine moving towards infighting ?


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DJ, 85 years ago [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht ;

Kristallnacht (German pronunciation: [kʁɪsˈtalnaχt] ) or the Night of Broken Glass, also called the November pogrom(s) (GermanNovemberpogromepronounced [noˈvɛm.bɐ.poˌɡʁoːmə] ),[1][2] was a pogrom against Jews carried out by the Nazi Party's Sturmabteilung (SA) paramilitary and Schutzstaffel (SS) paramilitary forces along with some participation from the Hitler Youth and German civilians throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938. The German authorities looked on without intervening.[3]

The [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust ;

The Holocaust was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Between 1941 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, around two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population. The murders were carried out primarily through mass shootings and poison gas in extermination camps, chiefly Auschwitz-BirkenauTreblinkaBelzecSobibor, and Chełmno in occupied Poland.

in my view did start earlier...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference ;

The Wannsee Conference (GermanWannseekonferenzGerman pronunciation: [ˈvanzeːkɔnfeˌʁɛnt͡s] ) was a meeting of senior government officials of Nazi Germany and Schutzstaffel (SS) leaders, held in the Berlin suburb of Wannsee on 20 January 1942. The purpose of the conference, called by the director of the Reich Security Main Office SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich, was to ensure the co-operation of administrative leaders of various government departments in the implementation of the Final Solution to the Jewish Question, whereby most of the Jews of German-occupied Europe would be deported to occupied Poland and murdered.

You do not need a conference to see some groups fall victim to a "wrong government"...When hitler came to power -january 1933 "left wing opposition" ended up in [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp opening in march 1933...US forces ended that horror april 29 -1945...Part of the earliest political prisoners ending up in nazi-concentrationcamps were Jewish socialists, trade union members, communists...

-Is the nazi mass murder on Jews an explanation for how (some) Israeli deal with Palestinians ? 

-Is this massive state crime an "excuse" for taking Arab land and create a "Jewish" state ?

-"Jewish"did see a wider use by nazi's...not only religious "Jews" but also those with "Jewish family ties"....and there it gets complicated...lots of Europeans had/have -far away- also Jewish ties...Under "social pressure" during several hundred years a lot of them had to give up their religion...Most of the Islamic world showed more tolerance for "being Jewish" than was found in Europe...

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Israel is now expelling Palestinians from Gaza, West Bank...to "create a Jewish State" ...part of a netanyahu-extremist plan most Israeli's may not like...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose  and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose 

The Middle East War is escalating...netanyahu wanted NATO to fight Iran...biden is giving in to that "wish"...

NL did send spare parts for US F35 to Israel so Israel can keep bombing/murdering in Gaza..."in self defense"...while Israel is breaking all international rules because those area's were supposed to be Palestinian !

We are on our way to a major conflict...

This is NOT a religious war-eventough some (from all sides) try to spin it in that direction...Hamas are NOT nazi's ...sadly in history many countries/groups did terrible crimes [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides (DJ-a political list, excluding Ukraine killing Russians from 2014, excluding Israel genocide on Palestinians...a "western view" at best...)

The main reason "the west was a friend of Israel" was oil....The main reason why this is escalating towards a major-possible global-war is "western domination" and a lack of will from the "west" for compromise...The "rest" has to pay for western debts-fiat currencies...The "rest" has to pay for US bases, NATO wars....

Only "the rest" is no longer willing to pay for neo-colonialism...

[url]https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/11/09/ospq-n09.html[/url] or https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/11/09/ospq-n09.html ;

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reaffirmed his government’s opposition to a ceasefire Wednesday, emboldened by a G7 statement that backed Israel’s genocidal violence against the Palestinians in the name of “self-defence” and threatened Iran. The imminent danger of a region-wide war was underlined as both the US and Israel launched air strikes in Syria against targets claimed to be associated with Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corp.

Meeting in Tokyo, foreign ministers from Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Italy and the US gave their stamp of approval to the Netanyahu regime’s bombardment of Gaza, which has officially claimed over 10,500 civilian lives. “We unequivocally condemn the terror attacks by Hamas and others across Israel that began on October 7, 2023, as well as ongoing missile attacks against Israel,” the statement declared, echoing the pro-war propaganda of the far-right Netanyahu regime. “We emphasize Israel’s right to defend itself and its people, in accordance with international law, as it seeks to prevent a recurrence.”

The G7 statement carried the unmistakable signature of US imperialism as it prepares for a wider regional war to secure its hegemony against all challenges. “We call on Iran to refrain from providing support for Hamas and taking further actions that destabilize the Middle East, including support for Lebanese Hezbollah and other non-state actors, and to use its influence with those groups to de-escalate regional tensions,” the statement threatened. In a section devoted entirely to “Iran,” it denounced everything from the country’s nuclear power program to development of ballistic missiles and human rights record.

DJ, Iran was NOT waiting for a war...it did join SCO and BRICS became a link between Russia and India, China and Europe...

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DJ, lots of aspects in this NATO-BRICS war...

Lena Petrova [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwz3PK4Qcc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwz3PK4Qcc ;

TOTAL COLLAPSE: Germany's FAILING Economy Drives E.U.'s Economic Crash

DJ, Most of Europe/the "west" ;

-aging population

-lack of skilled labor

-bureaucracy

Now further worsened by;

-high energy costs

-less export a.o. to China

-DJ-Long CoViD/disease becoming an extra burden...extreme weather increasing (we have flooding in western France, Belgium and even -limited-NL...increasing food prices...)

...Another aspect is the ongoing political crises in most western countries...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-aides-simply-cannot-stomach-bidens-israel-policy-dissent-memos-leak-revolt[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-aides-simply-cannot-stomach-bidens-israel-policy-dissent-memos-leak-revolt ;

The Democratic base too, could increasingly shift to become more sympathetic to the unrelenting denunciations issued by the Squad. Progressives and protesters are calling Biden "genocide Joe" - as CNN describes further:

Reminders of emotions running high have not been hard to come by. The president was confronted by a protester calling for a ceasefire at a private fundraiser last week; pro-Palestinian protests have been a daily occurrence near the White House compound; and this week, one of the entrances near the West Wing was covered in bright-red handprints – meant to mimic blood – and words like “genocide Joe.”

DJ, After Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria NATO killed hundreds of thousends in Ukraine-by pushing east...Now another genocide in Gaza...

From my -Dutch history- perspective; The main reason why the US bacame a republic in 1776 was they did see the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic as a "model" ...The Dutch did break with Spain [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic#History[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic#History in 1568...Till 1549 "the Netherlands/Low Countries" were part of a sort of Germany...

The Dutch "roots" -Yankee first used by the British for the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Netherland[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Netherland they did overtake in 1674...One of the families living in New Amsterdam was the Roosevelt-family...may still be part of many aspect of US culture, laws, thinking...see also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutgers_University[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutgers_University ...

For that matter it is not strange ALL of the west is now facing a deep political crisis...It is also not "new"...we did see that kind of crises after 1929, middle of 19th century etc...

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Ukraine in fact is "over"...lots of commentators see it as in a final phase...zelensky isolated, the war no longer funded by the west...

Now we have the war in Gaza [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDy0MVZk9s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDy0MVZk9s Weeb Union;

Israeli Army Struggles To Advance | Shocking Losses

DJ, Hamas claiming to have destroyed over 130 Israeli vehicles...even if you take that as propaganda Israel is facing very heavy fighting...netanyahu/biden may disagree on "how to clean up Gaza"...both are war criminals going for a goal that is unrealistic...Even if NATO takes -in fact- over Gaza and the West Bank (like Ukraine Israel only can fight this kind of war with NATO weapons, intel, financial support etc.) Hamas will move elsewhere...Both the Arab and Islamic world -again- see NATO as a bunch of criminals...

An overview of Israeli murdering Israeli on october 7....[url]https://twitter.com/PVPGurl/status/1722439467217146157[/url] or https://twitter.com/PVPGurl/status/1722439467217146157 ;

Many of the civilian deaths came from Israeli Apache pilots not knowing who was Hamas & who were civilians so they just fired a huge amount of munitions at everyone fleeing the Nova festival: Israel’s two Apache helicopter squadrons had 8 choppers in the air, “and there was almost no intelligence to help make fateful decisions,” Mako reported. The squadrons did not reach full strength until noon. 

As the wave of infiltrations from Gaza drove chaos on the ground, discombobulated Israeli pilots unleashed a frenzy of missile and machine gun salvos: “The Apache pilots testify that they fired a huge amount of munitions, emptied the ‘belly of the helicopter’ in minutes, flew to re-arm and returned to the air, again and again. But it didn’t help and they understand it,” Mako reported. 

The Apache helicopters appear to have focused on vehicles streaming back into Gaza from the Nova electronic music festival and nearby kibbutzes, attacked cars  with apparent knowledge that Israeli captives could be inside. They also fired on unarmed people exiting cars or walking on foot through the fields on the periphery of Gaza. One Apache pilot reflected on the tortuous dilemma of whether to shoot at people and cars returning to Gaza. He knew that many of those vehicles may have contained Israeli captives. But he chose to open fire anyway. “I choose targets like that,” the pilot reflected, “where I tell myself that the chance that I am shooting here on hostages as well is low.” However, he admitted that his judgment “was not 100%.” “I understand that we have to shoot here and quickly,” the commander of the Apache unit, Lt. Col. E., told Mako in a separate report. 

“Shooting at people in our territory – this is something I never thought I would do.” Lt. Col. A., a reserve pilot in the same unit, described a fog of confusion: “I find myself in a dilemma as to what to shoot at, because there are so many of them.” A report on the Apache squadrons by the Israeli outlet Yedioth Aharanoth noted that “the pilots realized that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian… The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”

DJ Also Israeli ground forces attacked area's near Gaza killing lots of Israeli hostages as well as Hamas fighters...There may have been 1400 Israeli deaths on october 7-maybe over 90% of them could have been killed by Israeli forces...(DJ-[url]https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molukse_wijk#Gewelddadigheden_Vaassen[/url] or https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molukse_wijk#Gewelddadigheden_Vaassen in oktober 1976 NL police/army evicted former Dutch East Indies Army families from their camp. Heavy fighting took place-later on at least some of the damage proved Dutch police/army did shoot at eachother...It was a miracle no one was killed...)

Israel/netanyahu is now in ethnic cleansing killing hundreds of Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank per day [url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/9-november-alaqsa-martyrs-brigades-in-jenin-claims-five-of[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/9-november-alaqsa-martyrs-brigades-in-jenin-claims-five-of

Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Jenin claims five of its fighters have been killed during an Israeli operation in the city

DJ...countries using this kind of violence to "keep safe" are self-destructive...The "west" failed to solve the question of a Palestinian State...(like they fail to create a Kurdistan-oil interests go above the right of the Kurds...)

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Israel/US/NATO do create tensions in all of West Asia...one of the goals of "West Asia" must be to get rid of NATO without starting a nuclear war...

Sinking NATO aircraft carriers in the region may start "serious escalations"...shooting down the aircraft, destroying radar on NATO ships may limit those risks....

DJ-I do NOT doubt countries in West Asia/Africa are "making plans" -very likely hoping they do not have to use them...the NATO mass murder will be stopped before that...

Yet another aspect is what western citizens can do...have to do... 

Western democracy has become "democrazy"...In the UK it is getting clear "bojo" former/future (?) PM Boris Johnson believed CoViD only "killed those destined to die anyway" so "it would only save costs"...Most of "the west" now going for "natural immunity" as a protection against CoViD...ignoring the science and ongoing pandemic...to save profits..

Economy/fossil energy also put above climate collapse...DJ-Sealevelrise by 2100 is NOT the main concern...october 2023 was the warmest and most wet october in NL since we began taking measurements...Extreme weather is becoming a "new normal-downward spiral" destroying food supplies, infrastructure...houses, jobs...

We ARE in a climate collapse...

Present "politics" did distance itself from present problems...only creating new ones to stay in power to "save an economy" in the interest of a small group...For that matter the Gaza-genocide is a symptom of a western disease...


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DJ, Very many "sources" on the "global situation"...my non-expert goal is to try and get maybe a bit realistic view on "events"....

Military Summary/MS [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Fpnw90GjQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Fpnw90GjQ has been following the -my view- NATO expansion- war in Ukraine from the start.  That war now in many ways;

-Is a battle between drones and Electronic Warfare

-Production/supplies a decisive factor

-Russia has NO major supply issues

-NATO ran out of supplies for Ukraine

DJ-zelensky is trying to stay in power for as long as he can...however if he "manages to escape" he may try to live in one of his many houses he did buy in the west...Lots of pressure inside and outside Ukraine need to find "an end" to this war...(maybe freeze the war...).

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The Middle East war is getting "out of control".....

-netanyahu/neo-cons want to stop BRICS by a war against Iran...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-hamas-bread-circuses-v-2-0-gaza-new-roman-colosseum[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-hamas-bread-circuses-v-2-0-gaza-new-roman-colosseum mentions two items;

-oil/gas for the Gaza coast

-[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Gurion_Canal_Project[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Gurion_Canal_Project as an alternative (modernization ?) for the Suez-canal...

[url]https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2023/11/11/Gaza-in-spotlight-as-Arab-Muslim-blocs-meet-in-Saudi-Arabia-[/url] or https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2023/11/11/Gaza-in-spotlight-as-Arab-Muslim-blocs-meet-in-Saudi-Arabia- ;

Saudi Arabia will host an extraordinary joint Islamic-Arab summit in Riyadh on Saturday, the Saudi foreign ministry said late on Friday.

The kingdom was scheduled to host two extraordinary summits, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation summit and the Arab League summit, on Saturday. The joint summit will replace the two separate gatherings, the ministry said.

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A united "diplomatic front... will generate diplomatic pressure from Arab and Muslim states," said Saudi analyst Aziz Alghashian.

Criticism from regional leaders so far indicates "that this is not just about Israel-Palestine -- this is about what is facilitating Israel to do this, which is basically the United States and the West", he added.

DJ, Assad/Syria, Iran, Türkiye, Egypt all will be in the Saudi Arabia meeting. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-tanks-have-gaza-hospitals-surrounded-un-decries-hell-earth[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-tanks-have-gaza-hospitals-surrounded-un-decries-hell-earth ;

Update(1515ET)On Friday Israeli media produced this headline hailing that "Israeli flags wave proudly along the shores of Gaza". Starting on Thursday footage began widely circulating online showing IDF troops holding an Israeli flag raising ceremony, laying stake to conquered areas of the Strip. In a short speech during the ceremony on a Gaza beach, just prior to leading troops in the national anthem, an IDF soldier said "this is our land" and told his forces they are leading the way for Jews "to return to our lands."

DJ, general view is Israel is "kicking out" Palestinians from what was supposed to become a Palestinian State...

The "west" is trying to get Egypt accepting millions of Palestinians so a "Jewish greater Israel" may become a reality...

Both the Arab- and Islamic world find this idea unacceptable....

Since long term economic/diplomatic "means" may not save millions of Palestinian lives in another NATO genocide short term action is needed...

A possible outcome of todays november 11-meeting (105 years after World War 1 ceasefire)  could be an ultimatum to the "west"...

No doubt BRICS is involved in the Saudi talks...

We are on our way to a very major war if "western crazy leaders" are not stopped...

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DJ-Since the international situation is getting from bad to worse, trying to make up my mind;

[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/10/gazas-defiance-us-israeli-alliances-and-the-ethics-of-war/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/10/gazas-defiance-us-israeli-alliances-and-the-ethics-of-war/ ;

As dawn broke over the besieged Gaza Strip, the distant rumble of tanks and the whirr of drones signalled a new chapter in the long-running conflict. In a calculated display of military precision, Israeli forces have launched a multi-front offensive, entering the coastal enclave from strategic points in a bid to reshape the battlefield. This latest surge in violence comes amid a crescendo of international outcry, with the United States and Israel at the epicentre of condemnation for their roles in the indiscriminate and systematic killing and collective punishment of Gaza’s 2.3 million Palestinians.

The unfolding scenario in Gaza is not only a testament to the ongoing strife that has plagued the region but also a reflection of the complex interplay of military power and geopolitical alliances. The involvement of US military assets, including special forces and advanced drone technology, underlines the strategic depth of the conflict and reveals a web of shared intelligence, combat expertise, and logistical support that binds the US and Israel in pursuit of objectives that have so far eluded them due to the staunch resistance of the city’s defenders.

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This is THE most serious attack and escalation for many years & its consequences are critical, much more than what the eye can see: #Israeli warplanes attack a truck in Zahrani, south of Lebanon, 40 kilometres from the border, breaking all red lines in #Lebanon after #Syria

DJ, Both Israel and US planes bombed targets in Syria, Iraq-both blaming Iran for attacks (in fact most of them by nationalist militia NOT backed by Iran !) for attacks on Israel and (illegal under international law) US/NATO bases in the region...

The escalation between #Israel and #Hezbollah has started TODAY (you may disagree if you don't see the full picture). It seems the occupation of north of #Gaza won't take too long and  doesn't mind starting a war on another front. The next hours/days are crucial.

and

For those who don't remember, #Israel's genocide and invasion is business as usual: In 1982, the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) invaded #Beirut #Lebanon and besieged it for 88 days, killing an estimated 18,000 people. Not a drop of water or a piece of bread was allowed in.

DJ, Today in Riyad-KSA both Arab and Islamic countries will meet. Since Egypt, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA), United Arab Emirates, Iran and Ethiopia -per 1-1-2024- are members of BRICS also Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa will be "in close contact"....Very likely a sort of ultimatum will be the outcome. 

-To who ? Israel or also US...NATO ? 

-For what time ? 24 hours/48 hours

-To do what ? Israel pull back from Gaza ? Cease fire ? Acceptance of a Palestinian State

-Or else ? Economic sanctions ? War ? 

DJ-It is NOT very likely the top meeting will see 100% agreement on all issues. But agreement on an inmeadiate ceasefire, NO ethnic cleansing by Israel (of Palestinians/Arabs-both from Gaza, West Bank and Israel itself) will be agreed upon...

Countries "may position themselves" on "other issues"....Türkiye may decide;

-To pull out of NATO

-Close US/NATO bases

-Send military to fight Israel

Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen in fact are already at war with both Israel and US/NATO...(poor) Lebanon has hardly any say...Both "parties" ignore Lebanons stand...violate Lebanon airspace...

-Russia is already a major factor in the region. Direct via  (in fact very limited) military presence in Syria and indirect, most of the region is under Russian reach for airstrikes, missiles, a Russian fleet...

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It looks like netanyahu can not wait to "get his war" with Iran...Israel/netanyahu is doing all he can to provoke a major war and "counting/using" US/NATO solidarity in "Israeli self defense"....

DJ-I think netanyahu is a mad man....

The more Israel now attacks targets deep inside Lebanon, Syria the more "the west" may think twice....

Assad and Raisi in Riyadh alongside MbS tomorrow for the special OIC session on another Hiroshima unfolding in Gaza. Gentlemen, get your act together.

DJ...the "west" is getting VERY divided !

Crazy joe biden, richie sunak may be willing to "stand with Israel"...maybe NL-PM mark rutte, Germany also may go "far"...

Public support in "the west" for yet another -this time very major- war is as good as zero...Censorship/media control may have reached its limits...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/55-global-nations-do-not-recognize-palestine-29-dont-recognize-israel[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/55-global-nations-do-not-recognize-palestine-29-dont-recognize-israel 

Inside most western countries-very likely including Israel-there "are limits"....

One can think of several war scenario's;

-Very limited; regional Israel moving into Lebanon to "deal with Hizbollah" while also "ending problems" in Gaza/West Bank...

The basic idea here would be the Islamic/Arab worlds to be very divided...Russia will "limit" "radical action"

-A bigger war involving also Syria, Egypt...maybe a sort of repeat of Yom Kippoer 1973 in Israeli fantasy....

-The very likely war will be between Israel/US and Iran...

Also here several scenario's;

-short war, missile exchange - than talks..."first strike" making an end to fighting a necessity

-longer war...Iran "and allies" fighting on Israeli borders/soil...In this scenario US will "move in" flying troops from Eastern Europe (Ukraine) to the Middle East/Israel...a problem could be Türkiye becoming involved in a war-first with Israel-than also with the US...

Israel WILL use its nuclear weapons if Israel itself is at risk...In a serious escalation non-nuclear war will allready be "the end" of Israel...

DJ-Today Israel is spending 250 million US$ PER DAY on military gear to be in this crisis...1/3 of its army is in the north...Over 300,000 reservists NOT on their normal job, NO tourism left, trade is getting harder...I would not be surprised if allready NOW the Israeli costs for the present crisis may be close to a billion per day !!!

The "west" may be funding Israel -like they funded the Ukraine nazi-regime since 2014....But there are limits...

-The worst scenario is all out war...

China NOT longer allowing US in the Taiwan (Chinese !!!) waters...Russia and China can take over control over Taiwan (air)ports...there is NO need to invade Taiwan...

US bases in the Middle East under full attack-maybe even US carriers sunk...

In such a scenario nuclear war may be around the corner-but even without it the economic damage would be terrible...Very likely millions of people killed per day...

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The most welcome development would be the west restarting diplomacy...Western "idea of being above the rest" may be the main problem...


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DJ, Trying to get a view on the "Middle East Crisis"(MEC) and outcome of the Riyad-Saudi meeting...

"western media" is -again- NOT doing its job ! Downplaying the importance, switching to israel propaganda...While hundreds of Palestinians in Gaza & West Bank get killed by Israel/NATO weapons...








IL hit Hexb base in Homs killing 7 incl officer = esc. from just hitting  bases. Then hit truck in field 40 km inside Leb = esc.+US presence. Esc begun by Yem hit on Eilat. IL hit back at Hezb. IL wants Hezb curb Axis! US hit SY after hits on base in IQ. Hezb has begun a hit-back

a link [url]https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/11/a-new-theatre-of-conflict-israels-military-advances-from-homs-to-lebanon-to-eilat/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/11/a-new-theatre-of-conflict-israels-military-advances-from-homs-to-lebanon-to-eilat/ ;

Written by – Elijah J. Magnier:

In a significant shift in the dynamics of the Middle East conflict, Israel has recently escalated its military operations, breaking long-standing rules of engagement with Hezbollah. In particular, this escalation included an air strike on a Hezbollah compound in Homs, Syria, which resulted in the deaths of seven people, including a senior military officer. This action marked a departure from the usual pattern of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah. 

To make matters more complex, Israel carried out another air strike the following day, Saturday the 11th of November. This strike targeted what appeared to be a non-military site – an unmanned truck in a banana field. However, the location of this strike, just 40 kilometres from the Lebanese border, represents a significant escalation of the conflict. This widening of the battlefield is seen as a strategic move, sanctioned by Israel’s mini-war government led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, with the explicit approval of Israel’s mini-war government.

Several factors are thought to have influenced Netanyahu’s decision to expand the scope of military action. These include the results of the ongoing war in Gaza, the heavy deployment of American forces in the Middle East, and the extensive western support he is receiving, which critics argue emboldens him to commit acts that are considered crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing.

This escalation raises critical questions about Israel’s intentions and the potential wider implications of these actions. A key concern is whether Netanyahu is deliberately widening the scope of the conflict to draw in the United States and other regional powers, potentially leading to a wider and more complex military engagement in the region.

DJ [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/nasrallahs-second-speech-on-gaza.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/nasrallahs-second-speech-on-gaza.html and [url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/11/714445/Iran-president-raeisi-return-summit-riyadh[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/11/714445/Iran-president-raeisi-return-summit-riyadh

Iran's President Ebrahim Raeisi says the United States plays the most important role in helping the Israeli regime survive and is the main party supplying the regime with weapons to kill Palestinian women and children.

Raeisi made the remarks while addressing reporters in Tehran early Sunday upon his return from an extraordinary joint summit of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation and the Arab League in Saudi Arabia's capital city of Riyadh.

The summit came as Israel continued its war of genocide in the besieged Gaza Strip despite growing calls to end the regime’s atrocities.

Is US military presence in the "area" stopping -for now- united Arab/Muslim reaction ? 

netanyahu NEEDS a big war to "survive" in his phantasy of "great leader"...While netanyahu may -in fact- be destroying Israel...

The present wars could cost Israel maybe up to 1 billion per day....PR-damage is only getting worse...

The Arab/Islam-world may -for now- for the public-have decided NOT to go for a (major) military role...

[url]https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2023/11/11/Arab-Islamic-summit-MBS-says-Israel-responsible-for-crimes-against-Gaza-civilians[/url] or https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2023/11/11/Arab-Islamic-summit-MBS-says-Israel-responsible-for-crimes-against-Gaza-civilians ;

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman reiterated the Kingdom’s call for a ceasefire in Gaza and held Israel responsible for “crimes” against civilians in the besieged enclave.

“We are before a humanitarian catastrophe that [shows] the failure of the UN Security Council and international community,” the Crown Prince said said on Saturday during his opening speech at the extraordinary joint Islamic-Arab summit.


He also called for an “immediate cessation” of military operations in Gaza and for opening humanitarian passages.

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He added that “Israeli occupation authorities” bear the responsibility of the crimes committed against civilians in the Gaza Strip.


“Israel’s flagrant violations of international laws must be stopped,” MBS said, as he reaffirmed the Kingdom’s condemnation of the “brutal war” that has claimed the lives of thousands of civilians.

The Crown Prince also called for unified efforts to end the siege on the enclave.

“We must work together to end the siege on Gaza and deliver aid,” he said, adding that the “only solution” to achieve stability in the region is through “ending occupation and settlement [policies].”

“The Palestinian people must be granted their legitimate rights [which include] establishing their independent state.”

DJ...very likely lots of talks were in hallways, at diners, more informal...Until recent Saudi Arabia was planning to improve links with Israel...

[url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/12/indonesian-staff-at-gaza-hospital-resigned-to-fate-as-israelis-close-in[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/12/indonesian-staff-at-gaza-hospital-resigned-to-fate-as-israelis-close-in 

DJ-Maybe as a reminder; From Türkiye, Syria to Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Egypt did meet in Riyad...lots of countries, lots of interests...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/11-november-jordanian-army-the-air-force-carries-out-a-new[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/11-november-jordanian-army-the-air-force-carries-out-a-new Jordan sending limited supplies to Gaza-in coordination with Israel...

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/israel-war-week-5-reports.20792/page-5[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/israel-war-week-5-reports.20792/page-5 ...

The leader of Lebanon’s militant Hezbollah group said Saturday his fighters have introduced new weapons, including a missile with a heavy warhead in the ongoing fighting along the Lebanon-Israel border, adding that they will keep using the tense frontier to pressure Israel.

DJ Russian, Chinese media also "silent" ; [url]https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-11-11/Saudi-crown-prince-meets-Iranian-president-in-Riyadh-1oEqB1LgU6s/index.html[/url] or https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-11-11/Saudi-crown-prince-meets-Iranian-president-in-Riyadh-1oEqB1LgU6s/index.html ...the Iran-Saudi top-meeting in itself is a Chinese success...

My view; Silence for the storm....

-Both US and Israel targets in the region may face full scale attacks within hours...

-Arab/Islam leaders return to discuss further steps to "stop west helping Israel"...

-Some "groups" allowed to "act on their own"...(hijacks ??)

-Russia, China, India may -again- push for diplomacy to avoid major war...

[url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/10/biden-and-xi-to-meet-on-november-15-white-house-says[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/10/biden-and-xi-to-meet-on-november-15-white-house-says ...DJ I have some doubts on -even- that meeting...

"the rest" of the world is that "fed up" with "the west" they may decide NOT wasting time on time...Increase economic warfare..

"West-rest-relations" at present are terrible...with the "west" getting more and more isolated..."news" on Ukraine blowing up Nordstream by western propaganda may underline "the west" simply -still- not getting "the message"....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH2r0NEKSdo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH2r0NEKSdo Lena Petrova;  

🔴 DISASTROUS WEEK: U.S. Debt Auction GONE BAD As Moody's Downgrades U.S.To Negative From Stable

DJ...biden creating money on an extreme scale...no one wants to buy long term US debts...

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DJ, How intelligent people can be totally blind(ed) ....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-C-G0aBcwY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-C-G0aBcwY ;

The US Military has Overextended Itself - John Mearsheimer, Alexander Mercouris and Glenn Diesen

DJ Some remarks;

-The US, EU, NATO are bankrupt !!! 

-BRICS-not mentioned in the 90 minutes conversation-is the new superpower

-Türkiye can not stay in a NATO that is supporting netanyahu...while the EU is keeping Türkiye out...

-Eastern Europe may be cultural /religious closer to Russia than to Western Europe 

-BRICS+ will NOT trust "the west"...it will break the west...

YES, Sweden and Finland may join NATO, Yes Baltic Sea/Arctic will see more NATO countries...BUT !!! Russian trade will no longer use those routes...It is exploring the Russian Arctic coast as a transport route to China...The Caspian Sea-Iran to India...

NO !!! India has always had good relations with Russia since independence in 1947...The US has NOTHING to offer in exchange ! Russia is accepting India currency -even if they can not spent all of it in India...The US NEEDS to see its $ as a global currency to be able to fight wars over the world....

Do Mearsheimer, Mercouris, Diesen miss basic economic insights ??? 

The US/NATO economic base is exploitation, keeping countries poor and dependent ! BRICS+ is ending that...

-Russia may not "take over" Ukraine...BRICS+ may do so....I think a lot of eastern European countries are VERY !!! disappointent in what "the west" did bring...One of the reasons why AfD in -former- East Germany is that strong is "western promisses turn out to be bla-bla !"....

Eastern Europe, Türkiye, will "move east"...for religious reasons (Western Europe is not christian any longer...) but also for energy and trade...with Asia !

The €/Euro, US/Canadian $, UK pound may see hyperinflation...the basic trade/economy -let countries we keep poor pay for fiat-currency- is over...

Ukraine will be "finished"....Israel may get "finished" as well...One does NOT need all out war to archieve such a goal...Both Ukraine and Israel now face such immense costs because of the war - only further breaking up social economic  and political internal relations...

ALL of the "west" is political bankrupt ! In the UK bojo, liz truss, richie sunak destroy the UK...The US may have to deal with a re-run of biden-trump "democrazy"...Here in NL "rutte" may move to a NATO-job (or not...) but the elections november 22 may only worsen the present (privatize everything) crisis...In Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Portugal..."politics" is gone off the road...

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DJ We have "never ever" been this close to nuclear (all out) war...The problem is the west...but "that west" seems unable to realize THEY are the problem...

The "west" only making deals to break them, feeling "superior"...and if you do not like that there is NATO to "regime change"you....Somehow that "west" still believes "the rest" of the world enjoys this kind of exploitation and slavery ???

Hardly any politician of any influence in the west dares to be critical enough...all playing "hide and seek" , trying to keep buying time by creating ever more money...kicking ever more cans down the road....

The "rest" of the world does NOT need us !!! "We" -the "west"- need them ! But we no longer can enforce, blackmail to a level that can save "us"...

As long as even intelligent people do not see that point the "west" will remain the -self destructive- problem !

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The Israeli/netanyahu NATO sponsored genocide in Gaza continues...now lots of patients (including new born babies) die in Gaza hospitals...

Israel is aware of the "bad PR" claiming a will to "evacuate babies", offering 300 liter of fuel when-on a daily bases-a hospital needs thousends of liters of fuel...On the other side IDF keeps claiming there is a Hamas HQ under (several) hospitals....

Israel-with (most) US help- also attacking targets in Lebanon, Syria...Somehow the western "double standards"; western bombs are "good", Russian bombs are "bad" is also dominating western "media/propaganda"....

On the Riyad meeting;

Their final statement will always be enshrined in the Gilded Palace of Cowardice. We oppose Israel's "self-defense", we condemn the attack on Gaza, we ask (who?) not to sell weapons to Israel, we request the kangaroo ICC to "investigate" war crimes, we request a UN resolution, blah blah blah. History is unforgiving with cowards.

DJ, I DIS !!!agree with Pepe ! The fact there was such a meeting itself was a "shock" for the west...Syria, Iran welcomed in Saudi Arabia...sitting on the same table as Indonesia...

Energy-steps will be taken at OPEC+ etc. The KSA-Riyad meeting was meant to get at least some unity...

THE HEGEMON IN 10 SECONDS 

Multipolarity = "Chaos" Unipolarity = Order 
Malign actors = "autocrats" such as the new "axis of evil" (Russia-China-Iran) and anyone that opposes the "rules-based international order"

DJ the "west" has lost the PR-claim of being "democratic and civilized"...Western leaders exposed as a bunch of criminals...

CoViD, inflation, economic depression on the way for "the west"...we will see a "west" sinking into a very deep -existential-crisis...After 500 years of "western civilization"; killing 90-95% of the earlier population of the America's, mixing religion and slave-trade in Africa, massive global exploitation to destruction...

We...the west...has to face itself in the mirror of history...A horror !

Chris Hedges: 

I am in the studio of Al Jazeera’s Arabic service watching a live feed from Gaza City. 

The Al Jazeera reporter in northern Gaza, because of the intense Israeli shelling, was forced to evacuate to southern Gaza. He left his camera behind. He trained it on Al-Shifa hospital, Gaza’s largest medical complex.

 It is night. 

Israeli tanks fire directly towards the hospital compound. Long horizontal red flashes.

 A deliberate attack on a hospital. 

A deliberate war crime. 

A deliberate massacre of the most helpless civilians, including the very sick and infants. 

Then the feed goes dead. 

We sit in front of the monitors. 

We are silent. 

We know what this means. 

No power. 

No water. 

No internet. 

No medical supplies. 

Every infant in an incubator will die. 

Every dialysis patient will die. 

Everyone in the intensive care unit will die. 

Everyone who needs oxygen will die.  

Everyone who needs emergency surgery will die. 


And what will happen to the 50,000 people who, driven from their homes by the relentless bombing, have taken refuge on the hospital grounds? 

We know the answer to that as well. Many of them, too, will die. 

There are no words to express what we are witnessing. 

In the five weeks of horror this is one of the pinnacles of horror. 

The indifference of Europe is bad enough.  

The active complicity by the United States is unfathomable. 

Nothing justifies this. 

Nothing. 

And Joe Biden will go down in history as an accomplice to genocide. 

May the ghosts of the thousands of children he has participated in murdering haunt him for the rest of his life.


DJ...strong words...However NATO supported an Ukraine genocide on Russian speakers since 2014...NATO killed over 1 million Iraqi 's on claims of "weapons of mass destruction"...In Syria a regime change war by NATO killed hundreds of thousends...

Still ...NATO needs to grow....Sweden, Finland want to join the mass murder ! 

DISGUSTING !!!!!!!!!!


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So what will be next ? 

The Arab/Islamic world and BRICS still need to get their acts together...










#Israel will never allow Palestinians to live in peace anywhere in #Palestine. The Israeli occupation army takes advantage of the world's silence to commit crimes across Palestinian geography. It is therefore understandable that Palestinians die trying to liberate their land.

DJ, Israel/netanyahu his goal may be clear by now; A "greater Jewish Israel" with non-Jews kicked out by the millions...the west is not stopping it...calling it "self defense" even providing help...

#Israel will not bomb #Lebanon like it did #Gaza is incapable of starting another war and the #US will not finance another Israeli war and won't send him weapons for a second war. Netanyahu is in a sinking boat and all rats will leave him alone.

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#Israel is expected to continue the level of exchange of fire, it can be intense but contained, along the borders and in land. #Hezbollah proved its determination to hit beyond the 5km when necessary. Therefore, Netanyahu doesn't need to test Hezbollah again and feel the heat.


DJ..Ejilah Magnier (Belgian) -in my view- may be optimistic...netanyahu still want NATO to fight his war with Iran...

This is far from over...just started...After Hamas Hezbollah must be destroyed...even if it would mean Beirut in ruins...A war with Syria, Iran "underlines the need for western support for self defense of Israel"...So netanyahu is doing all he can to provoke a bigger war...

Provoking wars and than claim the provoked party is the agressor worked well in western propaganda...

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-november-senior-us-defense-official-tells--67-iranian[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-november-senior-us-defense-official-tells--67-iranian ;

Senior U.S. defense official tells: 6-7 Iranian proxy fighters were killed at one of the 2 locations struck by U.S. warplanes in E Syria tonight. IRGC HQ/safe house. 2 hours of secondary explosions seen at second location suggesting large weapons and ammo storage

DJ...US bombing targets in Syria...goes against ANY international law ! So "the west" made their own "rules"....

The Duran; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblr7y2dApM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblr7y2dApM ;

Russia, Kazakhstan alliance and Reindustrialization. Putin in Rostov, confidence grows

DJ..One of the latest economic statistics did show 5,1% economic growth for Russia...So Russian companies move production outside Russia...Kazakhstan did welcome Putin...Uzbekistan and Iran may see a Putin visit within months...

There is a labor-shortage In Russia so foreign workers may be welcome in Russia as well (North Korea !) 

DJ-YES ! Very likely Russia may have seen over 100,000 of its soldiers killed/wounded in Ukraine...but it still has a very major (700,000 to 900,000 ?) army...Weapon production increased in Russia...but also Russia is able to import all kinds of weapons...Iran, North Korea did make "the news" ...maybe even Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina may export "products" to Russia...

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In Ukraine [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Eqcysuv8w[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Eqcysuv8w Military Summary;

The Fall | The Ukrainians Refuse To Fight. Kherson Foothold Elimination. Military Summary 2023.11.12

DJ ...one of the few reasons the war is still ongoing; Both zelensky and biden/NATO not willing to admit this war was yet another criminal mistake...

Translation to the Middle East;

If Israel/Netanyahu and US/NATO seek further self destruction in that region they can get it...

DJ-There is discussion on "a major Russian offensive" in Ukraine..."finishing zelensky/NATO"...Why would Russia do that ? 

The "present war" ...Ukraine/NATO forces moving towards Russian defenses and getting destroyed...Western "super" weapons fail on a very large scale...The "west" destroying their own economies to finance this insanity...

So...Israel/US/NATO killing thousends of Palestinians, Arabs, Lebanese...and than what ?

Crazy netanyahu/biden acting as teenagers destroying their rooms/house...thinking this shows "strength"....

DJ-There are military limits to what countries can do to stop the Israeli mass murder - UNDER US/NATO PROTECTION !!!!- in Gaza...

"Militia" can attack Israel/US "in the region" and worldwide...

Russia (with Türkiye, Iran) may have the means/ships to "stop" Israel and confront the US/NATO in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea...

No doubt any SANE person is hoping Israel will stop its genocide....Military action to force Israel to stop its crimes needs planning...

Very likely that planning is taking place right now...If Xi meets biden november 15 in the US maybe China may "make clear" the US has to stop Netanyahu...

If the US fails to stop netanyahu it has to give "others (BRICS+) " "room" to "stop netanyahu"...

If crazy joe sticks to "NATO supporting Israel self defense" as an excuse for genocide BRICS+ has to stop NATO...

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DJ-Major demonstration in Berlin-november 25...after other demo's in Paris, London...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-another-snapshot-kievs-military-collapse-it-aint-over-yet[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-another-snapshot-kievs-military-collapse-it-aint-over-yet 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/anatomy-paris-demo[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/anatomy-paris-demo 

DJ-In the west growing unrest; Some "politicians" keep supporting Gaza-genocide -in "self defense" of Israel...In general most-in the west-want some sort of an end to this mass murder...








While starving 2.3 million people and depriving them of water for more than a month, the genocidal Zionists want praise and thanks for taking a break from massacring babies to hand out a few bottles of water for a cruel and cynical photo-op. Absolute Nazi monsters.

Israel is aware public support is moving high speed...Tne "non-western world" very likely sees "the west" did create this problem-so the west has to solve it...ASAP !








The bombardment and siege of hospitals accusing the colonised of shielding behind medical facilities has a long history. This is the Italian fascist propaganda trying to justify the targeting of the medical structures of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Ethiopia.

and








So, we now know Hamas didn’t behead any babies or rape any pregnant women; that Israeli soldiers killed some/many/most of the people at Kibbutz & music festival; and Hamas’ offer to release hostages was rejected. BUT +11,000 Palestinians, including 5,500 children, are now dead!

One of the "Israeli ministers"....[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir ;

Itamar Ben-Gvir (Hebrewאִיתָמָר בֶּן גְּבִיר; born 6 May 1976) is an Israeli lawyer and far-right[1][2] politician who serves as the Minister of National Security.[3] He is a member of the Knesset and leader of Otzma Yehudit.[4][5]

Ben-Gvir, a settler in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, has faced charges of hate speech against Arabs and was known to have a portrait in his living room of Israeli-American terrorist Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 others in Hebron, in the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre. He removed the portrait after he entered politics.[5] He was also previously convicted of supporting a terrorist group known as Kach, which espoused Kahanism, an extremist religious Zionist ideology.[6]

Under his leadership, the Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power), a party which espouses Kahanism and anti-Arabism, won six seats in the 2022 Israeli legislative election, and is represented in what has been called the most right-wing and hardline government in Israel's history.[7][8][9][10] He has called for the expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel who are not loyal to Israel.[10] Ben Gvir is "widely known for his openly racist, anti-Arab views and activities".[11] Israeli sociologist Eva Illouz has said Ben Gvir represents "Jewish fascism".[12]

Ben Gvir had been long accused of being a provocateur, having previously led several visits to the Temple Mount as activist and member of Knesset, contentious marches through Jerusalem's Old City Muslim Quarter, and set up an office in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood which witnessed several evictions of Palestinians.[13] On 3 January 2023, he visited the Temple Mount where the al-Aqsa Mosque is located, spurring an international wave of criticism that labelled his visit purposely provocative.[13] As a lawyer, he is known for defending Jewish radicals and terrorists on trial in Israel.[14]

There are claims this nazi has his own militia...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-war-cabinet-wants-netanyahu-ousted-revealed-minister-has-own-militia[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-war-cabinet-wants-netanyahu-ousted-revealed-minister-has-own-militia 

DJ-In the last extreme right wing Israeli government "netanyahu" was not the most extreme...A "national government" is still following an extremist road to make Israel "Jewish"....

[url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-november-lebanese-sources-reported-several-civilian-casualties[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-november-lebanese-sources-reported-several-civilian-casualties ;

Lebanese sources reported several civilian casualties in an Israeli strike in southern Lebanon's Ainata

DJ, netanyahu still pushing escalation ? 

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Military Summary-YouTube keeps doing a good job on Ukraine. Russia may have build a reserve of over 1,000 medium/long range missiles to destroy-for months-Ukraine electricity. 

Goals;

-Stop electric trains/logistics

-but also to start an uprising against zelensky...

Some western "media" still promoting Ukraine propaganda...claiming "Russia is losing the war"...even ignoring the west is in recession, Russian economy is growing high speed...

-In Syria [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-launches-3rd-round-airstrikes-eastern-syria-deterrence-failing[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-launches-3rd-round-airstrikes-eastern-syria-deterrence-failing ;

"If these attacks continue against our personnel, we won’t hesitate at a time and place of our choosing to respond again," deputy press secretary Sabrina Singh vowed at the time. Defense officials have further said that all or most of the over 50 US troop injuries have been minor, and that all have since returned to duty.

The US has had some 1,000 or more troops and personnel in Syria for years. Originally claiming a "counter ISIS" mission, the US "mission" quickly became an oil and gas resource grab - ultimately with an eye toward regime change in Damascus, via suffocating sanctions and diverting of domestic energy. Now there are fears US troops are fast getting drawn into broader conflict related to Israel's operations in Gaza, and against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.

DJ, A very likely strategy against US/NATO presence-against international law-in Syria and Iraq is to make costs of maintaining those positions (much) to high...US/NATO now is stealing oil-may cover some of the costs...If logistics/supplies for US/NATO "positions" in Syria and Iraq get under pressure further the US may have to reconsider...

One of the results of US/NATO support for the Israeli Gaza-genocide is countries like Türkiye, Jordan may stop being part of a supply line to Syria, Iraq. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/fewer-americans-are-interested-fighting-wars-regime[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/fewer-americans-are-interested-fighting-wars-regime

Authored by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,

Good news: the Pentagon is having trouble meeting recruiting goals, and an increasingly small portion of the American public is interested in fighting wars for the regime. 

It's been apparent for several years now that the Pentagon is having serious trouble with recruitment.

DJ, Even increasing propaganda may face demographic problems...there are not that many young people in the work force...It has been one of the reasons western armies switched to "high tech"...but when tested western high tech weapons show limited use...

-Türkiye did see Leopard-2 tanks, with very well trained soldiers, in combination-warfare fail in northern Syria...

-In Saudi Arabia patriot air defense failed to stop Yemeni drones...

So western weapons in Ukraine, Israel NOT being a decisive "game changer" should not be such a big surprise...A lot of high expectations come from the 2003 Iraq war...with NATO fighting a less modern army...

The bad choice biden made by provoking a war in Ukraine (because "Putin did steal the election"-insanity...) is resulting in more "for ever" wars...At the end even western war industry (Military Industrial Complex + banks) may face serious problems...Iran drones, Russian weapons do a "better job" on the battle field, less high tech, easy to use, rugged to deal with dust and mud and a lot cheaper than western weapons...

One of the outcomes of the Ukraine war, Gaza genocide may be a "west" with even less military at even higher costs...(Spending may increase, but inflation/costs increase much faster...staff shortage will remain a major problem...)

In Gaza [url]https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-november-doctors-without-borders-any-target-that-moves[/url] or https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-november-doctors-without-borders-any-target-that-moves

Doctors Without Borders: Any target that moves from the Shifa complex is targeted by Israel. Bodies in the courtyards of Al-Shifa Hospital lays without burial

DJ, Streetdogs eating from dead bodies...

Weeb Union [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOS4EKbujz8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOS4EKbujz8 ;

This is Why ISRAEL is DOOMED To LOSE This War

DJ, With western "media" going for Israeli propaganda the reality may be Israel forces do gain limited ground in (Northern) Gaza at very high costs...Tanks etc. do not offer enough protection in this kind of close combat urban warfare...A limited group of fighters going for hit and run attacks. Israeli infantry also dealing with heavy losses...

DJ-Israel may have a lot of reservists that did see "training" often...but there are stories a lot of those trainings ended up with a lot of drinking, lack of discipline...In Ukraine mobile phones give away positions...Israel army ignored drones warfare in Ukraine at first...later on they at least put up "cages" on armoured vehicles/tanks as a sort of drone-protection...

Since Gaza is that small it is hard to avoid concentrating forces...so an attack on those concentrated forces may do a lot of damage. 

Other "sources" claim Israel has no clear strategy or goals in Gaza...Maybe at first the netanyahy phantasy was to "get all Palestinians into Egypt"...So what is next ? Kill all Palestinians ? 








It has been reported that Tony Blair may be installed as humanitarian coordinator in Gaza. Tony Blair is currently a patron of the JNF w/ Netanyahu. The JNF is the largest settlement-building organisation in Palestine. Blair also has the blood of a million Iraqis on his hands.

With "david C" as UK-FM UK politics below sewage level....








Mondoweiss| 📷  “Obtaining water has become like prospecting for gold,” explains H., a writer with We Are Not Numbers, “and whoever finds drinkable water is considered wealthy." By WANN Mentor: Michelle Lerner

This in NATO "leaders" is self defense...withholding water to millions of Palestinians...(of course genocide by climate collapse and pandemic was no problem...Ukraine killing thousends of Russian speakers was OK...the west has a bunch of criminals running politics...) 

[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/13/israels-challenging-military-operation-and-its-pursuit-of-a-buffer-zone-in-gazas-north/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/13/israels-challenging-military-operation-and-its-pursuit-of-a-buffer-zone-in-gazas-north/ ;

Written by – Elijah J. Magnier:

While Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s military strategy for Gaza, specifically targeting the northern areas to create a buffer zone appears more defined, its implementation faces significant hurdles. This strategy, aimed at totally neutralising and defeating Hamas and gaining territorial control, has met with considerable resistance and logistical challenges. Despite deploying a formidable force of thousands of infantry backed by more than 380 tanks and armed vehicles, artillery, naval warships and air support, the Israeli military has failed to achieve its primary objectives. The same seize of Israeli forces injected in Gaza (78 square km) for the last weeks is equivalent to the same Israeli forces deployed in the six-day war in 1967 to occupy the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula (60,000 square km), the Syrian Golan Heights (1,800 square km), the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem (5,800 square km). The Israeli forces had around 264,000 soldiers while today over 390,000 are engaged in the current war, including on the Lebanese northern front.

The Israeli army’s inability to report any Hamas surrenders and raising the white flag, coupled with its failure to stop the rockets attacks on the settlements and the Israeli cities underlines the difficulties the Israeli occupation forces are confronted with. The military action, characterised by violation of international laws and widespread destruction, including attacks on hospitals, demolition of infrastructure and the tragic loss of over 11,000 civilians, mostly women and children, has not resulted in the intended territorial gains in the smaller northern regions of the Strip.

This situation suggests that while Israel’s military might is disproportionate to the size of the resistance it faces, it does not automatically translate into successful occupation or control of the targeted areas. The ongoing conflict and resistance in Gaza suggest that Israel may need to reassess its objectives and strategies in order to register more achievable goals. This reassessment is necessary in light of the current realities on the ground and the international community’s response to the humanitarian and political consequences of this conflict.

The White House position on the situation in Gaza, as articulated by US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, represents a clear policy: there will be no immediate exodus from Gaza, either now or after the conflict. This statement asserts that there will be no siege of Gaza by land or sea, no occupation of Gaza, and that the current status quo under Hamas control will not remain unchanged. Blinken stresses the need for a unified administration in both the West Bank and Gaza.

In sharp contrast to this official position, however, is the reality on the ground, which seems to differ significantly from the American diplomatic narrative. The US announced the establishment of a humanitarian corridor, a measure implemented by Israel days before the US announcement, ostensibly to facilitate the evacuation of residents from northern Gaza. However, this action is perceived by many as a forced displacement of the population, a move that resonates with accusations of ethnic cleansing under international law. 

This contention arises because the Israeli military, while conducting operations in the region and citing security concerns, is not legally permitted to order the evacuation of residents from the northern area to the unsafe, bombed and deprived from water, electricity and supply in the south of Gaza. Moreover, this order becomes even more controversial when these northern residents are ordered to seek refuge in southern areas that are simultaneously under bombardment.

Such a scenario paints a complex and contradictory picture, where what seems to be diplomatic assurances and the reality on the ground appear to be in stark contrast. This discrepancy raises significant questions about the real intentions and outcomes of policies and actions being taken in the region.

DJ, The Israeli mass murder in Gaza was in reaction to the october 7 mass murder...Yet still it is unclear how "groups" could kill for hours...Israeli defense very likely a major role in killing "terrorists" and hostages...The Gaza-border was supposed to be closed...

One of the reasons for netanyahu extreme crimes may be a need to cover up for the october 7 "questions"...

-Were all "terrorists" from Hamas or did some extremist Israeli militia seek a false flag ? ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir Kahane-like Israeli terrorists...) ????

-Why did the Gaza-border security fail this much ????

-How much time did it take to get Israeli defense forces to protect civilians under attack ???? And why did it take that long ???

DJ-How can you ignore Hamas para-gliding training ? How you can ignore para-gliders in large numbers crossing the Gaza border ???? DJ Even with very open borders several para-gliders crossing the Dutch-German border would raise some alarm....








They have now arrested over 300 Jewish protestors demanding a ceasefire at the Oakland Federal Building “My father and grandfather did not escape Nazi Germany so our history could be exploited to kill people”

DJ, AGAIN !!! A lot of Israeli citizens are against netanyahu...Crazy fascist like ben gvir hardly have support...Outside Israel a lot of people that may consider themselves "Jewish" totally disagree with the Gaza-genocide...Insane western/NATO leaders may support this genocide more than most Jewish people in NATO countries...

In part because it may be linked to oil and gas in the region...

[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/palestine-commotion-overshadows-climate-rally-goes-global/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/11/palestine-commotion-overshadows-climate-rally-goes-global/ ;

The man who climbed on stage and interrupted activist Greta Thunberg during Sunday’s climate march in Amsterdam has made media headlines around the world, the AD reported on Monday.

His act, and the commotion that led up to it, have overshadowed the impact of the Netherlands’ biggest ever pro-climate rally, some commentators say. According to the organisers, 85,000 people attended the march which took place 10 days before the general election.

The man, a former candidate in the waterboard elections for Water Natuurlijk, took to the stage to protest that the event had been politicised by both Thunberg and a pro-Palestine activist. Thunberg had allowed a pro-Palestine activist to continue her speech which the organisers had muted after she said “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”. 

DJ...this once a forum was on pandemics...My (history background) view is events are NEVER isolated...The "Spanish Flu" became a massive killer because of the background conditions NOT because the virus itself was "such a bad flu virus"....

The Israel-"question" since 1948 can not be seen without the context of middle east oil and gas...

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DJ, Lots of discussion; 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwC51FwItGM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwC51FwItGM ;Judge Napolitano

Alastair Crooke: (fmr. British Diplomat) - What is Biden’s endgame in Gaza?

with "horizontal escalation" as a (for me) new term; Militia fighting Israel/US/NATO "in the region" ...US already with dozens of wounded soldiers from Syria and Iraq...Countries like Lebanon, Syria, Iran trying to stay out of an "open war" (for now).

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNMjAdnUulw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNMjAdnUulw The Duran;

US military fighting with militias in the Middle East intensifies

DJ...biden will seek confrontation with Iran....and;

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YtMd1g_Y80[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YtMd1g_Y80 

Russia-US security agreement. Conflict on two fronts w/ Jeffrey Sachs (Live)

DJ...The US selling more weapons to Taiwan...Jeffrey Sachs/JS making the (good) point-both the Ukraine and Gaza war should have been avoided. 

-There was a form of agreement with Russia on "balanced security"; NATO expansionism did break that balance -very clearly- in 2014 Maidan-coup...

-JS mentioning since the start of the CIA in 1947 there has been a "secret US army" following its own agenda...regime-change often resulting in chaos...

-After october 7 biden (a.o.) visited netanyahu...Netanyahu welcomed "western leaders" as an invitation for Israeli genocide on Palestinians...

DJ, Weeb Union also doing a good job-Israel can NOT win the Gaza war...In the propaganda war "western media" now go for "Israeli info" "confirmed by the US" ...yes Hamas has tunnellinks to hospitals...DJ-So for NATO now it is okay to kill Palestinians by the thousends because there are also tunnel links to Gaza hospitals ? 








The War Crimes being perpetrated by the Far Right #Israeli Regime are also the War Crimes of the enabling #US #EU #UK - All those who have supported this Genocide against the people of #Palestine should be tried for War Crimes. Where's the International Criminal Court...?

and

The CCR

@theCCR
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BREAKING: Palestinians are suing @POTUS@SecBlinken, & @SecDef to stop U.S. support for Israel’s unfolding genocide, asking a U.S. Court to enforce the most basic & important legal—and moral—obligation in the world – preventing genocide. 

DJ Also in NL [url]https://rightsforum.org/the-rights-forum-klaagt-nederlandse-staat-aan/[/url] or https://rightsforum.org/the-rights-forum-klaagt-nederlandse-staat-aan/ legal steps against the NL government a.o. for supply of F35 spare parts to Israel (with Israel a.o. using F35-JSF to kill Palestinians). 






Hillary Clinton

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If Russian leadership would rather not be accused of committing war crimes, they should stop bombing hospitals.

DJ, of course "this woman" should be in prison for war crimes...providing Syrian "moderate terrorists" with chemical weapons and then claim Assad/Russia is using chemical weapons...

At that time joe biden was vice-president under Obama-making corrupt deals in a.o. Ukraine and Afghanistan for the biden-crime family....It may explain why biden can not accept peace in Ukraine...

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DJ, My view;

-Netanyahu needs a big war...Lebanon will be next-while ethnic cleansing further escalates in Gaza, West Bank and later on in Israel itself to "get a Jewish motherland"...

-[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel may give an indication of "new Israeli borders" if the netanyahu extremists get their way...

-The US keeps supporting Israel-even if it would bring war with Iran (and very likely World War Three)

-The biden-Xi meeting today in San Francisco may bring a BRICS+ ultimatum to the US/biden..."stop it"!

-Several commentators point to biden his world view being "outdated"...biden still believes the US to be the "only superpower" and able to "tell the world what to do"....Those commentators also point out even the 2003 Iraq-war would be "to much" for the 2023 US military...Not enough (trained) soldiers, weapons...US deep in debts...

-Lena Petrova on You Tube warning for a worse than 2008 real estate crisis. de-dollar-ization...She is even moderate on hyper-inflation...(DJ-When you look at Weimar-Germany in the early 20's, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Argentina today/recent loss of trust can bring financial collapse very high speed/exponential...)

-We may be at the end of a "pandemic pause" with lots of diseases getting out of control...CoViD may show to be the minor problem...Climate collapse, animal diseases destroying food supply...

To close this post; A lot of the problems will hit "the west" already in economic recession and facing high energy costs...But "the rest" of the world also is facing climate, pandemic, food crises...

We urgently need global cooperation to get out of these problems...Misuse of the internet may see most of the public NOT informed on the present crises just around the corner...Once TV would "educate" the people...the internet could be a good source of information...Just like TV now the internet is used to keep the public "stupid/ill informed"...

Here in NL the elections may bring a government even more right wing than the present one...Less public spending only further worsening public healthcare, public housing, public education, public transport...while most NL population complain about things getting worse they -again- vote for parties destroying everything public...

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DJ, We need global cooperation to deal with global problems-and we need that cooperation NOW...

So...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talksUpdate(2115ET)Hands down the biggest moment from Biden's post-Xi meeting, and which threatens to derail any positive feelings built through the day, was his off-the-cuff remark calling Xi a "dictator". Was he so far off-script that the White House will issue a clarification? Will the dictator comment stand? Watch the moment which is sure to rile Beijing, and immediately cast a cloud over whatever 'progress' may have been made after hours of talks...


Is destroying any kind of basis for global cooperation...

From China on the biden-Xi meeting [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1301887.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1301887.shtml ;

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Deal marks breakthrough, mirrors both countries' determination
By  and Du QiongfangPublished: Nov 15, 2023 08:55 PM

 

 

 

 
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China US Photo:VCG


China and the US agreed to jointly tackle global warming and operationalize a working group focused on areas including energy transition, methane, the circular economy and resource efficiency, low-carbon development and deforestation, according to a document issued by China's Ministry of Ecology and Environment (MEE) on Wednesday.

Chinese experts hailed the document titled "Sunnylands Statement on Enhancing Cooperation to Address the Climate Crisis" as a hard-earned achievement between the two countries amid a thaw in tensions. It paves way for closer global cooperation ahead of the upcoming COP28 climate conference in the UAE, but Washington should also take concrete actions and not walk back its own promises on climate cooperation, experts said.

Maybe there was -still- some optimism...

[url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1301935.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1301935.shtml ;

The two sides agreed to promote and strengthen dialogue and cooperation in various fields, including establishing an intergovernmental dialogue on artificial intelligence, setting up a China-US drug control cooperation working group to carry out anti-drug cooperation, resuming high-level military-to-military communication, China-US defense department working meetings, China-US military maritime security consultation mechanism meetings based on equality and respect, and conducting China-US military regional leaders' conversations.

They also agreed to significantly increase flights early next year, expanding exchanges in education, international students, youth, culture, sports, and business circles, among others. 

DJ...no doubt biden wants to also increase weapon export to Taiwan, maybe even a US base there ? The US wants to try to break up BRICS...Russia-China ties...

My view; biden is the problem....

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Western media will follow Israeli propaganda..."Hamas was building weapons of mass destruction" in hospitals...Hamas fighters eat babies...Palestinians/Arabs are "sub-human" and the world will be better of without them...

DJ-Of course the "sub-human story" and "killing untermenschen" has a historical link...Traumatized people may not realize they copy behavior that traumetized them...

However "the west" has/had a duty to stop mass murder...The "west" in stead is sending all kinds of weapons to Israel...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYg2kYPzzow[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYg2kYPzzow The New Atlas...

Douglas McGregor remarked it did take the Germans 60 days to break the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising in 1944...The Jewish uprising [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising took less than a month...

Türkiye, Iran, Arab states CAN NOT and WILL NOT accept a genocide on thousends of Palestinians...Gaza is just a start...West Bank, South of Lebanon also "have to be included" in [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel#Promised_Land[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel#Promised_Land ;

The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18–21, seems to define the land that was given to all of the children of Abraham, including IshmaelZimranJokshanMidian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates".

The other definitions are found in the Book of DeuteronomyDeuteronomy 11:24Deuteronomy 1:7, the Book of NumbersNumbers 34:1–15, and the Book of EzekielEzekiel 47:13–20. The definition in Numbers and Ezekiel refers to the land that was divided between the original Twelve tribes of Israel after they were delivered from Egypt, and finally, the borders defined in the book of Deuteronomy are those that will be given to the children of Israel slowly throughout the years, Exodus 23:29Deuteronomy 7:22)

DJ, Some "christians" see these -much wider- Israeli borders as "a relifious duty"...Even if it would bring ethnic cleansing and war...










#Israel Occupation Forces stationed on the #Gaza-Israel barrier to the east bombed and destroyed the only flour mill that was operating in the Strip. With the bombing of that only flour mill (and almost all bakeries), the entire Gaza Strip stopped producing flour.

DJ, All Palestinians out of Gaza...That is the Israeli goal...

LooooooooL: #Israel found "intelligence material, weapons and Hamas headquarters in Al-Shifa hospital". The Israelis are lying with their breath to cover up their total failure and humiliation. What they do not know is that no one believes them.

Way to optimistic...for political reasons western media/elite will follow 100% of Israeli lies...








Xi: "It is unrealistic for one side to remodel the other, and conflict and confrontation has terrible consequences for both sides (...) The world at large is big enough for the two countries to succeed." Then the guy in front of him fell asleep.

Moon of Alabama [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/how-would-they-know.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/how-would-they-know.html ;

Shifa Hospital Bunker - How Would They Know?

Big claims:

Israel claim Hamas headquarters is hidden under the Shifa Hospital in Gazanews.com.au - October 31 2023

Israel-Gaza war: US says Hamas has command centre under Al-Shifa hospitalBBC - November 14 2023

But how would they know?

Top Secret Hamas Command Bunker in Gaza RevealedTablet - July 29 2014 (!!!)

The Israelis are so sure about the location of the Hamas bunker, however, not because they are trying to score propaganda points, or because it has been repeatedly mentioned in passing by Western reporters—but because they built it. Back in 1983, when Israel still ruled Gaza, they built a secure underground operating room and tunnel network beneath Shifa hospital—which is one among several reasons why Israeli security sources are so sure that there is a main Hamas command bunker in or around the large cement basement beneath the area of Building 2 of the Hospital, which reporters are obviously prohibited from entering.

I bet 100 to 1 that nothing Hamas is present in the well known bunker beneath the Shifa hospital.

DJ...The way to avoid war is diplomacy...Is taking others serious...

The biden administration is not capable of that...worse-most NATO/EU leaders close their eyes and "follow the leader"....

You can fight-then talk or you can talk to prevent the fighting...The west is unwilling to listen..sticking to uni-polar -US-  dominance...

So "BRICS+" will have made their plans..."horizontal escalation" more "militia-attacks" on Israel/US/NATO...The "west" may go for false flags...A US ship being attacked in yet another gulf [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident ...

We are -sadly- moving towards global war...

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