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Jhetta
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 5:09pm |
Four people brought to Bucharest hospital with bird flu-like symptoms
More and more people have been tested at the Contagious Diseases Institute for bird flu, while the strain keeps spreading, rousing controversy between central and local authorities. Three people from Brasov County were rushed to the Matei Bals Contagious Diseases Institute in Bucharest, as local sanitary inspectors believe they might be infected with the bird flu virus. A 31-year-old man and his 3-year-old son, along a the 17-year-old teenager are to be admitted at the Matei Bals Institute and thorough medical investigations will be carried out.
Doctors in Brasov fear that the teenager, who had been working at the farm where the outbreak was discovered last week, might be infected with the virus, as he is breathing with difficulty and is feeling very dizzy. An electrician, employed at the Codlea farm and who is currently in hospital for medical investigations complained that the people admitted to the central hospital in Fagaras town, in Brasov County are poorly treated. Florin Panturoiu said that they are not given food and are kept in extremely bad conditions, although they are all feeling alright. "I never thought I would be living in such harsh conditions," he said yesterday. He said that even after the virus was discovered at the farm, he and other five colleagues continued to work for a couple of days, as no one had told them about the outbreak. However, the tests showed that all the employees of the farm were ok. On Wednesday a man who was working with the disinfectant teams in Brasov County was admitted to the hospital after he was hit by a car which did not stop at the disinfection filter. Also, in Codlea, Brasov County quarantine was installed one week after the first dead chickens were discovered at a farm in the town. Inspectors have discovered that the farm had been functioning without a veterinarian for about three months. The farm's owner said that it is not his fault, as he has sent samples to be tested by the Sanitary Veterinary authorities, but all they received were phone calls, informing them the fowl were ok. Agriculture Minister Gheorghe Flutur announced two days ago that Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu agreed that the directors of the Sanitary Veterinary Agency in Brasov will be dismissed for the improper way they handled the recent bird flu outbreak. The residents of Codlea complained about the quarantine measure, which forces them stay inside the town. However, most of the people in the town work in Brasov and fear that they might get fired if they do not show up for work. At the same time, inhabitants of a village in Vrancea County, where the virus's presence was also confirmed, protested against the authorities' decision to cull all their birds. Meanwhile, the H5 virus continues to spread in other areas of the country. Rapid tests confirmed yesterday the presence of the H5 strain in the town of Ploiesti after the local authorities were informed that five chickens were found dead in a yard in the center of the town. The Agriculture minister announced yesterday more and more measures against the spreading of the virus, saying that the situation keeps them on alert and explaining that many central and local institutions put in extra efforts to stop and prevent the virus spreading. Flutur also said that he has asked all the Sanitary Veterinary Agencies in the country to check the chicken farms in the country. Inspectors discovered a farm yesterday in Alba County which functioned without respecting the minimum hygiene rules. The minister urged local inspectors to have lists with all the people who worked with the infected birds, so that they all are tested. Yesterday the flu was confirmed in Brasov as well, causing authorities to consider the idea of introducing quarantine measures in the city. The sanitary inspectors in Timis County fined several stores, warehouses and meat preparation units, as they found numerous irregularities. Bucharest authorities start controls in Sector 2 The mayor of Sector 2 announced that veterinary inspectors are running tests and controls in the outskirts of the sector where there are many people living in houses who also have birds. General Mayor Adriean Videanu said that all sector mayors have to send teams to control the outskirts of their sectors. The first checks started in Dobroiesti neighborhood, where most of the people became frightened when they saw the mixed teams of police agents and sanitary inspectors, fearing that they will take away the birds. The recent outbreak of bird flu in the country caused significant damages to the meat industry, as sales dropped by 70-80 percent since the virus was first discovered in the country in October last year. The H5 virus rapidly spread in eight counties in several days, where there are 12 to 14 outbreak points and also dozens of flu suspicions in many localities. The spokesman of the World Health Organization (WHO), Dick Thompson, said in an interview for a radio station, that it is unlikely for humans to get the virus from the infected birds. He explained that the organization has never encountered a single case where a human was infected with the virus after consuming chicken meat. |
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The H5 virus rapidly spread in eight counties in several days, where there are 12 to 14 outbreak points and also dozens of flu suspicions in many localities.
Looks like the beginning of another cluster. This whole article exemplfies what a mess this whole situation is becoming very early on.
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Jhetta
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Luckily it is not so easy to contract at this point... however it is very wide spread. |
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Romanian Agriculture Minister Gheorghe Flutur said on Friday that the bird flu virus has continued to spread across the country. It had contaminated poultry in 18 villages over the past week, bringing the number of localities affected to over 60, he said.
This was from an earlier post so this report didnt surprise me.
Unfortunately it is moving westward and dangerously close to Europe.
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Bird Flu Touches Siberia
According to the latest report Russia has found that the deadly strain H5N1 strain of bird flu has infected poultry in Siberia. There were six dead chickens found in Siberia all infected with the H5N1 strain. The regional health official said that all the five dead chickens were from Omsk region. |
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Quoted from Jhetta's article:
"The H5 virus rapidly spread in eight counties in several days, where there are 12 to 14 outbreak points and also dozens of flu suspicions in many localities." Good Grief Charlie Brown......... |
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Am having some difficulty interpreting the article. Was the father a farm employee also..? Because it sounds like the 17 year old and the electrician are both from the farm.
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Jhetta
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3 people admitted to Matei Bals Institute and thorough medical investigations will be carried out.
1. 31-year-old man & 2. and his 3-year-old son,
3. along a the 17-year-old teenager Doctors in Brasov fear that the teenager, who had been working at the farm where the outbreak was discovered last week, might be infected with the virus, as he is breathing with difficulty and is feeling very dizzy.
4. An electrician, employed at the Codlea farm and who is currently in hospital for medical investigations complained that the people admitted to the central hospital in Fagaras town, in Brasov County are poorly treated. 5. Not suspected of H5N1 infection On Wednesday a man who was working with the disinfectant teams in Brasov County was admitted to the hospital after he was hit by a car which did not stop at the disinfection filter. |
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4. An electrician, employed at the Codlea farm and who is currently in hospital for medical investigations complained that the people admitted to the central hospital in Fagaras town, in Brasov County are poorly treated.[/QUOTE]
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'Medical investigations'?? If it's for BF, what does THAT do to the 'family' cluster theory that's been going around???
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'Medical investigations'?? If it's for BF, what does THAT do to the 'family' cluster theory that's been going around??? [/QUOTE]
These are new suspected cases... in Romania. A farm that raised chickens sold live chickens with H5N1 to the surrounding area... there have been multiple outbreaks and they are screening suspected cases for possible H5N1 infection.
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Thanks Jhetta -- I got lost in the jump from Indonesia! |
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Jhetta
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I thought so... you are always right on the ball. There is just to much info coming out lately and more posters putting repeat info out.
It gets confusing.
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Chase
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Hi Heavy Hitters - Jhetta, CommonGround, Readymom & Pony Girl....
You all post the best info and THANX. The past few days I have been most scared and appreciate YOUR view on whats happening. I consider myself a reasonable person - my friends think I'm nuts about BF and my 47 yr old hippie sister (I'm 40) thinks global warming is a bigger threat. (which I believe it is, down the road a bit...not as pending as current events) This forum is great and all the hard work everyone does is cool......My comment may be off topic....as you all are reporting the FACTS/LINKS (and that's what counts)....But what do you all feel (if appropiate) is going on? I'm getting very nervous....I don't like whats been happening in Indonesia and Romania, but it may die down again soon hopefully... Thanx for a reply - - chase |
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CHASE - I'd rather be alone than among bores
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Hi Chase,
See what your State Sept of health says. They can tell you a lot from their website. Our Governor here has been proactive. They are issuing pretty stern warnings here for people to prepare. And the funny thing is most people are blowing it off.
My feeling is that it could take some time but the disease will hit North America. You have some time. So be prepared..for hurricane, terrorist attack, BF, whatever. It's piece of mind.
Horse crazy, PonyGirl
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Chase
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Hi PonyGirl,
ohhh...I'm already prepped. I live in FL and went through 3 hurricanes. I have my stuff and am topping off for the next 2 weeks when FL has no tax on Hurricane Realted items. (many are BF item - so they are the last of my preps) I appreciate the reply and have been to all websites and learn nothing other than from this site. My previous post, was for you heavy hitters - and what you feel is happening with Indo and Romania....It's ok if you don't respond....Just wanted some gut feelings b/c I feel it has gone nuts the past few days....I've only been registered here a short time but have monitoting a long time.....I beleive your research vs a state site anyday....Peace out and keep up the hard work - it is appreciated...... |
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CHASE - I'd rather be alone than among bores
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Jhetta
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Chase,
While I am concerned... I do not have a high level of anxiety right now... I am watching this pretty close and I am actively preparing... my plan it to stock for 18 months... if I am able.... I am trying to get Tamiflu but have not been able to talk my doc into it.
When you read this form... watch the middle of the road... and be open to the other ends...
Hope that helps... I am off to the Mountains to give myself a break from this...
Just keep alert and do something every day to prepare. If nothing happens you will be ready for an earthquake, tornado or hurricane.
If none of those happen you will not have to go to the store for a while |
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Chase
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Thanx Jhetta....I am pretty middle of the road...not a hyper nut the sky is falling type person.. I live on proven facts (thats why me and the hippie sister don't get along) Long story......
Anyhow - have fun in mountains....I'm prepped so I'm not concerned over that.....I'm just concerned on whats happening - Indo and Romania,,,,,I guess we'll just wait and see. Have fun up high.....mountains are cool. I'm at the beach in the am. Love the beach. |
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CHASE - I'd rather be alone than among bores
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Jhetta - a well-deserved break, I might add. Enjoy yourself and take some time to R-E-L-A-X. I have a friend who tells me that on a weekly basis, and though I hardly take her advice, it's nice to know someone thinks you deserve it! Oops, sorry to get in the way of the news...... oh well.....
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Very nice to hear... have a great weekend
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These cases are not confirmed. Lets wait and see what the test say and if there are other cases. Not time to get our knickers in a knot yet
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Let's just keep up with Romania & Indonesia. I'm not loosing sleep. These clusters have died down in the past also, so with me....time will tell.
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I keep a CLOSE watch on THIS SITE! This seems to be the place where there is the most necessary info. The team work is incredible and the research that they all do unbelievable. Connecting the Dots seems to be a speciality! There are a variety of people on here from all areas ... from parents to researchers,investigative journalists to government types and those we just don't know about ... so you can't get much better than that! Indonesia & Romania are a BIG concern, right now. They are unusually large clusters and the news is foggy in that there are quite a few discrepencies in answering 'is it H2H' or not and just how many are infected. Pigs are a concern because they can be the place where the transition from NOT being H2H or GOING H2H can happen. As said above, a couple of times ... it's necessary to keep an eye on this area of the world but we're not at panic stage yet. There is a LOT of 'reading between the lines' (which this site is GREAT at doing) that you have to do, since the various government agencies are keeping what ever they currently know close to the vest. Probably to prevent panic (althought letting the public know a little more all the time to a gradual buildup of info would be better at preventing the panic 'cause then they would be more aware of what to expect ... kinda like knowing in January that your vactaion is coming in June and there's things you need to do to get ready -- it's called planning!)We're at the 'keep preparing' stage. Try to get something done every week ... if you can do smaller things each day, it won't get so overwhelming. So, yes ... keep watching I & R, with caution but don't let it stop you from enjoying the BF-free days we have here in the USA! IF it looks like those days are in jeopardy ... you'll probably get the first indicators right here! -k
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((("The H5 virus rapidly spread in eight counties in several days, where there are 12 to 14 outbreak points and also dozens of flu suspicions in many localities.")))))
This statement stopped me in quick read of the article. Romania is more like Turkey than France in the way people live. I have a Romanian aquatance who lives in the Urban area and his backyard is like a small farm with chickens, sheep and other animals.
Distressing news from Eastern Europe.
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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What exactly are they disinfecting? It looks like sheets of cardboard or some rugs in the middle of the road. Anyone else like the quaint picturesque sound of the area? I hope someday to have a nice summer home in "Sector 2" |
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I've got to say now that I cannot translate stuff from Romania. Don't have a translation site that does it. So, I'll try to keep up with Indonesia.
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