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    Posted: January 06 2006 at 5:05am
I was reading my local paper this morning and there on
page 5 is an article from Associated Press:
GOVERNMENT URGES PREPARATION FOR FLU PANDEMIC
Says they are bracing for a pandemic and urging people to prepare. Also gives a guide on stocking food, coughing into sleeve, consider working at home, checking with employer about sick leave policies etc.
Trying to set" proper tone and not cause for alarm"
I think this may cause panic shopping in some areas.
Did anyone else have this article in their paper ?
This is first time I have seen any article in the newspaper on prepping
for BF.

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Sue, Do you have an on-line link for the article by any chance? Would love to read it. Haven't read my morning paper yet.... -- Libby
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I get two newspapers per day. Not one article about this topic....how sad! I did read this story on line. I will check my saturday papers.

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Here is what is in todays "Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

FEDS ISSUE TIPS FOR PREPARING FOR PANDEMIC

By Keven Freking  The Assoc. Press

Bracing for a possible flu pandemic, the gov. is urging people to prepare to teach their kids at home, chart family members blood types and allegries & find out in advance if they will be able to work from their home.  A pandemic can hit in waves & last for months, the gov. warns in a guide for families that was being released today.

"Preparation will bring peace of mind and the confidence that we are ready to fight a flu pandemic".  Some tipe will sound familiar, echoing what people are told before a hurricane or a blizzard strikes.  For ex., the gov. suggests stocking a supply of water & non perishable food and pres. drugs.  The guide asks people to volunteer with local groups to assist with emergency response.  The guide also suggests ways to stop the spread of disease, including simple steips such as frequesnt hand washing and staying at home if you are sick.  Cough or sneezeinto your upper sleever if you don't have a tissue.  Because schools may be closed for long periods in a pandemic, the gov. advises parents to be prepared to teach their children at home.  People should consider how to get around because transp. might be disruped.

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It's in a lot of major newspapers... I wonder why the Government is undergoing such a huge ad campaign ....

We all know that if H5N1 comes into contact with a human flu virus, then it will most likely mutate into a  human to human strain.  In this article below, Van Hospital is flooded with patients who just have the regular flu.  With 48 potential bird flu cases in the same location, it's like throwing a match in a barrel of gasoline.  Mixing so many human flu patients with BF patients is a disaster.  If it hasn't gone h2h yet, it's about to.     The WHO should have planned on this happening.    

The next statement that I'm going to make is a little scary so be forwarned.  

In my opinion, we are witnessing the birth of a superflu pandemic.  I just hope that there is somebody around when it's all over to learn from it lol. 

 
By BENJAMIN HARVEY Associated Press Writer

The Associated Press

DOGUBAYAZIT, Turkey An 11-year-old girl died Friday of suspected bird flu in eastern Turkey _ days after her brother and sister succumbed to the disease _ and their doctor said they probably contracted the illness by playing with dead chickens.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said people urgently needed to be educated about keeping birds, and that during Friday prayers, imams would give instructions on protecting themselves.

The condition of a fourth ill child from the same family had improved considerably and he was no longer on a respirator, said Huseyin Avni Sahin, head physician at the hospital in the eastern city of Van, where the children were being treated. Three other people, however, were in serious condition, he told The Associated Press.

A hospital official said up to 30 other people were being treated for possible bird flu symptoms early Friday, as the government sent medicine to the area to combat a virus that appeared to be moving westward from eastern Asia. Five other people were admitted to a hospital in Diyarbakir, about 250 miles away, for possible bird flu.

Preliminary tests in Turkey indicated two of the siblings died of the H5N1 strain of bird flu. If confirmed by further testing, it would be the first human deaths from the strain outside eastern Asian areas, where more than 70 people have died from H5N1 since 2003. Samples were being sent to a British lab for confirmation.

Authorities are closely monitoring H5N1 for fear it could mutate into a form easily passed among humans and spark a pandemic.

The World Health Organization was doing tests to determine whether the bird flu cases resulted from human-to-human transmission, WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said in Geneva. The tests were being conducted on samples from the first two victims at a British lab, where they arrived Thursday, and results are expected "in the next few days," she said.

Hulya Kocyigit, 11, died in a hospital in Van a day after her 15-year-old sister, Fatma Kocyigit, succumbed to the disease, Sahin said. Their brother, Mehmet Ali Kocyigit, 14, died Sunday. The four children were hospitalized with high fevers, coughing and bleeding in their throats.

The doctor said the youngsters most likely contracted the virus while playing with the heads of dead chickens infected with the disease. The children had reportedly tossed the chicken heads like balls inside their house in Dogubayazit, near the Iranian border.

"They played with the heads for days," Sahin said. "They were in very, very close contact with the dead chickens."

Another 25-30 people had come in to the hospital for blood tests, received medical care and left, a hospital official said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

New bird flu cases in fowl were detected in five areas in eastern and southeastern Turkey, and authorities have culled 7,000 fowl in those areas, Agriculture Minister Mehdi Eker said.

The prime minister said people must be warned against concealing birds from health workers.

"We have a problem of education, which we have to overcome urgently," Erdogan said. "Chickens, turkeys, geese ... people should not hide them."

In the Kocyigits' hometown of Dogubayazit, teams went from house to house rounding up chickens, placing them in bags and taking them away to be culled. They warned children to keep away, after several of them, thinking it was a game, also tried to round up chickens.

The corridors of a hospital was packed with people wanting their children checked for bird flu.

"We're full here. Everyone is wondering if they've got it," Dr. Huseyin Yurtsever said, adding that he was sending suspicious cases to the hospital in Van.

Authorities in the southeastern province of Sanliurfa dispatched medical teams to the town of Hilvan, where bird flu in fowl has been detected, to deal with a similar panic in a clinic there.

A team of officials from WHO and the Food and Agriculture Organization were expected to arrive Friday in Turkey to assess the situation.

Officials tried to calm the rising fears.

"We don't expect the disease to contaminate a large number of people," Health Minister Recep Akdag said. "We don't expect a pandemic or anything like that in Turkey, but there is a real risk for people who are in close contact with fowl."

Eker said the problem of containing bird flu in eastern Turkey is aggravated by the fact that almost every house has fowl, which stay inside the homes at night when temperatures drop.

Most of those who have died from the disease so far were farm workers who came in close contact with fowl from Vietnam, Thailand and Indonesia.

Birds in Turkey, Romania, Russia and Croatia have recently tested positive for H5N1.

Authorities have said the virus was believed to have been brought by birds migrating from Caucasus regions.

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Here's the link for the fed advisory in today's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06006/633578.stm

 

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RE: Newspaper article:

Libby, I went to Associated Press Web site but could not
find article. This article was printed in the Oakland
Press, Maybe you will see it in your paper today.

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The goverrnment is obviously trying to send us a message with this national ad campaign.   This must be their last minute strategy.  This seems like our time could be running short before things possibly get bad, IMO.

Here is another article about how the HHS is also advising people to stockpile.  The clear message that they are trying to send us is to buy extra supplies.   Like I said, do your final preps right now.     

  WASHINGTON, Jan 6 (Reuters) - There is no vaccine and drugs are in short supply but Americans may be able to ride out any bird flu pandemic if they stock up on supplies and keep their children clean, the U.S. government said on Friday.

The Health and Human Services Department's checklist illustrates just how little can be done to prevent widespread illness and disruption if H5N1 avian influenza causes a pandemic -- a global epidemic -- this year.

The virus still mostly affects birds, but the deaths of three children in Turkey, if confirmed to have been caused by H5N1, means the virus has now infected people in six countries. The World Health Organization has confirmed 142 cases and 74 deaths from bird flu since 2003.

Experts fear it could mutate into a form that passes easily from person to person, sparking a pandemic that could kill millions. It would cost billions and HHS says it could kill 2 million Americans, close schools for days or weeks on end and disrupt industry and commerce.

Experts say the best way to wait out a pandemic, which could last for months, is to stay away from other people and keep close to home.

"During a pandemic, if you cannot get to a store, or if stores are out of supplies, it will be important for you to have extra supplies on hand. This can be useful in other types of emergencies, such as power outages and disasters," the HHS guide says.

HHS's "Pandemic Flu Planning Checklist for Individuals and Families", available on the agency's Web site at www.pandemicflu.gov/planguide/checklist.html, advises:

-- Teaching children to wash hands frequently and appropriately, covering coughs and sneezes with tissues, and modeling the correct behavior

-- Having ready-to-eat canned meats, fruits, vegetables, soups, bottled water and cleaning supplies on-hand for an extended stay at home.

-- Having any nonprescription drugs and other health supplies on hand, including pain relievers, stomach remedies, cough and cold medicines, fluids with electrolytes and vitamins.

-- Talking with family members and loved ones about how they would be cared for if they got sick or what will be needed to care for them in another home. 
 



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"The goverrnment is obviously trying to send us a message with this national ad campaign.   This must be their last minute strategy.  This seems like our time could be running short before things possibly get bad, IMO.

Here is another article about how the HHS is also advising people to stockpile.  The clear message that they are trying to send us is to buy extra supplies.   Like I said, do your final preps right now."

 

I thought the government(s) were too busy covering up to be sending us a message to prepare

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Hubby & I went to Costco after work tonight to pick up some of our "final" items.  We hit the parking lot at right around 6pm...it was CRAMMED!  We aren't sure if it was just normal Friday evening stuff or not.  We do Costco about every other month so I'm just not sure.

But what really spooked me is this...

They had and ENTIRE isle of Charmine toilet paper stacked, I'm telling you, it creeped me right out!  I have seen them do an entire isle of bottled water during hurricane season, but never toilet paper, and all one brand too...it looked to me like they just yanked whatever they had from the back and put it on the floor...or maybe they just got a really good deal on Charmin...since I only go every other month I don't quite know if it's a marketing thing or a prep thing.

They also had a row of vitamin supplements as you walk in, all stacked, case after case.  Normally they are in the back by the pharmacy.

All this just struck me as "off"...like they know the herds are coming and they are ready for them.

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Here's the link to the pandemicflu.gov site that has the entire release:

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/tab3.html

[snip]

Social Disruption May Be Widespread

  • Plan for the possibility that usual services may be disrupted. These could include services provided by hospitals and other health care facilities, banks, stores, restaurants, government offices, and post offices.
  • Prepare backup plans in case public gatherings, such as volunteer meetings and worship services, are canceled.
  • Consider how to care for people with special needs in case the services they rely on are not available

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People Will Need Advice and Help at Work and Home

  • Think about what information the people in your workplace will need if you are a manager. This may include information about insurance, leave policies, working from home, possible loss of income, and when not to come to work if sick. (A Business Pandemic Influenza Planning Checklist is available at www.pandemicflu.gov.)
  • Meet with your colleagues and make lists of things that you will need to know and what actions can be taken.
  • Find volunteers who want to help people in need, such as elderly neighbors, single parents of small children, or people without the resources to get the medical help they will need.
  • Identify other information resources in your community, such as mental health hotlines, public health hotlines, or electronic bulletin boards.
  • Find support systems—people who are thinking about the same issues you are thinking about. Share ideas. (That's us guys-sz)

[/snip]

I honestly don't know how plainer they can state the case that people need to be prepared.  Since no one knows how bad this will be ( a bump in the road or a world wide tsunami) they do a pretty good job at telling us that things might not be normal for awhile.  When the government comes out and says "government offices and post offices" may be off-line that's pretty danged serious.  And did everyone notice that they threw in the banks in middle, maybe hoping no one would notice?

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Yes Sophia sure sounds like us in here. All I can add is I'm glad I found this site in regards to ideas.
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The Louisville Courier-Journal had the same article in the January 6, 2006 issue. It was simple, concise and straight to the point.

U.S. issuing tips on coping in a pandemic

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  WASHINGTON  -- Bracing for a possible flu pandemic, the government is urging people to take a common-sense approach as well as some uncommon steps.

  A pandemic can hit in waves and last for months, the government warns in a guide being released today.

  Some tips will sound familiar. For example, the government suggests stocking a supply of water and nonperishable food and prescription drugs.

  The guide also suggests ways to stop the spread of disease, including simple steps such as frequent hand washing and staying home when sick.

  Because schools may be closed for long periods in a pandemic, the government advises parents to be prepared to teach their children at home.  Workers should find out if they can work from home, the guide suggests.

  Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt planned to release the guide today while meeting in Arizona with state officials and community leaders.  The department plans similar meetings in every state. [Courier-Journal January 6, 2006]

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You know it is all and ok to put this in writing..but what about the people that live pay check to pay check they will not be able to stock up and prepare..I read this and I see it as anything else that has happened through history..the rich get richer and the poor will suffer..large companies will profit off of this, they will raise gas prices and use it as an excuse....anything you need to purchase from this day forward will be more expensive even thoue it still has not been determined to be H2H..I have noticed this month that prices have risen and they seem to keep going up..

 

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I am dreadfully worried about people who have no $ to prepare. I took a wrong turn the other day and ended up in a section of my city that is very, very poor. All I could think was -- what is going to happen to these people? They sometimes don't have enough to get by on a daily basis as it is. Yes, Muskrat, the rich get richer and the poor will suffer. Although, if the rich haven't paid attention to the warnings, the flu will be the great equalizer. -- Libby
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I am so glad I had started preps long time ago...if the MSM let more information out and TPTB get anxious prices will go through the roof for basic items...

I have alot of the dried stuff stored and will get us through for a long time, and hopefully by that time sets will be in place for getting basic items...

Have they started opening up the under ground bunkers for the rich and famous..

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We must all use common sense and do the best to prepare for this contagion coming our way! Do whatever you can!The beginning of the end draws near!

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!
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Welcome aboard dakota!

But I beg a clarification...

Is your above post your genuine opinion or are you tweaking our collective noses?

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Hey, SophiaZoe, my 21 year old daughter (religious girl, lives at home) just brought home an 8 week old Great Dane to add to our two greyhounds (one is my wife's and the other is my 19 year old daughter's).  The greyhounds (neutered males) got to sniff for about 20 minutes and then the older daughter took the puppy to the vet for a checkup.  This should be interesting.  The puppy paws are about three inches across.
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I've been following this situation well into a year ago. I am an internist and have seen elderly patients die from influenza with total shut down of all organ systems and death in as little as 8 hours, and feeling totally helpless! That is the old fashioned H3N2. Imagine this strain!. Stock up on whatever you can get, Relenza, tamiflu, levaquin, azithromax, suction. aerosols. IV fluids, etc. and of course food. The hospitals won't be able to help us and I peresonally will not go to work if it means death to me and to my wife and child if I bring it home. These days physicians are treated like crap!! Good luck every one!!!
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OK dakota, first you could contribute mightily with your expertise but Albert has already claimed the position of our resident alarmist .

Help us understand what we need to do, how we need to do it, and generally guide us laymen (sorry I refuse to use the PC term) please don't just throw out a list of items that we should all run out and buy.

BTW: I fully agree with the prep issue, the more the merrier, but we need to know why these things are recommended and what to do with them.

Thanks in advance for any guidance you can/will provide.

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And dakota, just so that my above is not misunderstood...

I wasn't being challenging or rude....but expressing a genuine plea for help.  We need help in understanding these things!  Sometimes communicating via a bb is difficult, you loose visual and verbal cues.

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Oh crap, I hope I didn't put dakota off!!!!

dakota, if you read this please believe I was only asking for help, but re-reading my post I'm afraid that it could be interpreted otherwise.

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sophiazoe,

Have worked for costco for past 4 years, begining of every new year vitamins, health products all go to front
of store. Due to new years resolutions, you know how we
all plan a better self for the new year! ha. I lasted about 3 days. As for Main displays of TP - there is no
backstock in costco except for upper steel racks, sometimes trucks come in and nowhere to put stock, so
they'll put it whever it will fit. As for people panic buying I have not noticed anything other than normal and I went through the blackout a couple of years ago and I can tell you when people panic you don't want to be there - fire departments in to get water, supplies, and they are received before the store even opened to members.
One man busted out the glass doors in front of building
because he said the store should not have closed, now mind you this store remained open for 2 days with no running water, no power
except generators and no bathrooms - they even brought in Port-a-potties for employees just to remain open so people could get water and batteries etc. and get the basic supplies needed. People were taking water not by the cart but by the pallet! This power outage (Michigan) lasted around 4-5 days and during that time period people got very ugly. The funny thing was this blackout was not all of Michigan just southern half, so you could drive 50 miles or so and everything was normal. So why was there such panic ? When the blackout
came took everyone off guard, I was stuck in traffic
(a block from my house)for an hour with 1/4 tank of gas.
It was on a Thursday so no money, no atms, no gas pumps
cars running out of gas everywhere, people walking home.
So you make finally make it home and theres no water and no power for 8 days! You made do with what you had on hand. That 50 miles to normalcy might have well been 5000 miles. We had no way of getting there. This could be what would would happen to the average american to try to get medical attention or vaccines if a lot of systems are down.

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serendipity Thanks for the 411 on Costco.  I guess I spend too much time thinking about BF and need to realize that the rest of the world doesn't.  But I swear, that entire row of TP, where the water is normally displayed was creepy!

I love Costco!  Never manage to escape without two carts and on occasion have had three.  Since I hate shopping so much I tend to try to do as much as I can at once.

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sophiazoe,

I am sorry that I did not make myself clear on costco, its when you dont see the big displays of items that you need to worry.
I know we are all looking for panic buying as to a clue of whats going on, but what will really happen if there is an pandemic, the local fire departments, police, healthcare workers will be allowed to get supplies needed first then it will be open to the public, I have seen that first hand.

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Glad to hear Costco those who take care of us!!!
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Dakota, If you don't mind me asking, how do your co-workers view this influenza threat? Are they just as worried? I don't mean to be nosy, I'm just currious. Could you elaborate some more on your thoughts about this possible pandemic.

Thanks much, Idah

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