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H5n8 infects humans in Russia......

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    Posted: February 20 2021 at 2:10pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EdwinSm, Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2021 at 10:21pm

At this stage they are saying no person to person transmission (but that is what they said at the beginning of the covid19 outbreak).

I was wondering as this season's flu has been crushed by NPI (such as masks, social distancing), whether these would be enough to stop a flu pandemic?  


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Why are they saying world first?


H5N8 has transmitted to humans many times? Am i missing something here?

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My BAD... read it again. "from Humans to birds!!!"  oh crap. That's a serious development

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roni3470 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2021 at 8:39am

they are saying in this article that there were 7 infected and they were asymptomatic and it didn't spread further.  If that is the case, why were they even tested for it in the first place?  I see some red flags here, anyone else?

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[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/internet-communication/avian-flu-diary/909599-russia-anna-popova-on-the-potential-for-h5n8-to-transmit-between-humans[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/internet-communication/avian-flu-diary/909599-russia-anna-popova-on-the-potential-for-h5n8-to-transmit-between-humans ;

Nevertheless, earlier this week the WHO prudently called for the development of a Candidate Vaccine Virus (CVV) against avian H5N8 (see WHO: Candidate Vaccine Viruses for Pandemic Preparedness - March 2021), just in case it becomes a more common zoonotic threat.


While primarily considered a disease affecting birds, we have seen some evidence of H5N8 jumping to mammals (see MAFRA: H5N8 Antibodies Detected In South Korean Dogs (Again)), and some research (see Sci Rpts: H5N8 - Rapid Acquisition of Virulence Markers After Serial Passage In Mice) suggesting that H5N8 might someday acquire the genetic changes that would make it a human health threat as well.

A 2017 editorial in the Journal Virulence (see J. Virulence Editorial: HPAI H5N8 - Should We Be Worried?reviewed and summarized the literature, and found enough reasons to be concerned over the future evolutionary path of H5N8, stating that:


The extensive distribution of HPAI H5N8, as well as the gene reassortment with other circulating avian viruses already observed for H5N8 suggests there is a potential risk for human cases of H5N8 infections.

So, while the threat to humans posed today by H5N8 may be low or very low, there are no guarantees it will remain so. Viruses evolve, and while that evolution is unplanned and random - it can sometimes lead to dangerous species jumps - as we've seen demonstrated so vividly with SARS-CoV-2.

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Although we have the original TASS interview in Russian, the following English language summary comes from theMoscow Times.


Russia Warns of H5N8 Bird Flu Transmission

The mutating H5N8 strain of avian flu has a high risk of human-to-human transmission, Russian authorities warnedFriday.

Anna Popova, who heads Russia’s health watchdog Rospotrebnadzor, made the prediction nearly a month after scientists detected the first case of H5N8 transmission to humans at a southern Russia poultry farm.

“There’s a fairly high degree of probability” of human-to-human transmission forecasts, Popova told the state-run TASS news agency.

Though people can get infected with other bird and swine flu subtypes, the H5N8 strain that is lethal for birds has never been reported to have spread to humans.

“This is likely to happen. Colleagues say that the mutation is continuing very actively,” Popova said.

DJ-The link mentions several other pandemic-potential virusses...it is not "if" but "when"...

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Please God!  Not another pandemic!  We have not recovered from the covid one yet.

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How deadly to humans would it be, does anyone know or have a agues?

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1918 - at a guess.

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Please God!  Not another pandemic!  We have not recovered from the covid one yet.

Well, that's how these things tend to go - they come in bunches!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2021 at 3:17pm

Thing is this one didn't slowdown climate change enough......

So the government of the world,is letting lose a virus that will do a better job......

Or covid was a foretaste,just to get us ready psychologically, for the "slate wiper"

Sorry just thought I'd start a conspiracy theory....lol

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DJ-Maybe H5N8 will be in the next flu-shot ? If you know it may become a problem get pro-active ? 

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