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    Posted: March 06 2006 at 5:17pm

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1401

and tell me please this is a snake oil

this is the silver bullet,and i got a lot of this ammo

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I read that somewhere else as well. Sounds like research in its infancy stage. Lets see real tests on real birds or mammals.

 

Question is why would it kill viruses.

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not infancy i am curing incurable with my silver bullet,people dont want to listen,death is what waiting...............simply

people are trying to bite me on this site.........i have being even ridiculed,

let us see ...................who will survive..................

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it kills viruses for many reasons

 

we cant kill viruses,we deactivate them , silver can have a very strong catalytic action,on rna and dna as well,while leaving human cells unharmed

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally posted by virusil virusil wrote:

WorldNews.asp?nid=1401">http://www.freemarketnews.com/
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and tell me please this is a snake oil]
this is the silver bullet,and i got a lot of this ammo



Silver (Silver Nitrate) has traditionally been used in
medicine for wound care. Unfortunately the amount of silver in the teeth
of the janitor that sweeps the lab where this discovery was made would
probably supply the world's entire needs. Nano particles of silver are
quite small.




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Ok lets say for kicks its true. How in the world would a person get or create nonoparticle silver?

Whats the odds even if it did work that it could be mass produced and distributed in time?

exactly how big is 1-10 nanometers?

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Very, Very Early Research in Vitro.

Interaction of silver nanoparticles with HIV-1.

Department of Chemical Engineering, The University of Texas, Austin, Texas 78712, USA. josee@che.utexas.edu

The interaction of nanoparticles with biomolecules and microorganisms is an expanding field of research. Within this field, an area that has been largely unexplored is the interaction of metal nanoparticles with viruses. In this work, we demonstrate that silver nanoparticles undergo a size-dependent interaction with HIV-1, with nanoparticles exclusively in the range of 1-10 nm attached to the virus. The regular spatial arrangement of the attached nanoparticles, the center-to-center distance between nanoparticles, and the fact that the exposed sulfur-bearing residues of the glycoprotein knobs would be attractive sites for nanoparticle interaction suggest that silver nanoparticles interact with the HIV-1 virus via preferential binding to the gp120 glycoprotein knobs. Due to this interaction, silver nanoparticles inhibit the virus from binding to host cells, as demonstrated in vitro.

PMID: 15987516 [PubMed]

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i repeat this is the silver bullet,it is not in its infancy,i have millions of that solutions waiting ...............
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What do you mean by millions of that solution?

Nano silver particle drink

Are you in this industry (Nano)

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yes,enough to save all of us in this forum,and no one is here,they are out doing just prep.................
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http://www.samsung.com/ph/presscenter/samsunginthephilippine s/productnews_20040608_0000058341.asp

and tell me please it is in its infancy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wake up sleepy people

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I am aware that this can help you; I have this entry in my book:

Colloidal Silver: Promotes healing and helps destroy viral infections: Follow the directions very carefully according to the label, this can cause in a few cases your skin to develop a bluish cast!

  • Avoid if taking: Methylopa (Aldomet), Norfloxacin (Noroxin), Ofloxacin (Ocuflox, Floxin), Penicillamine (cuprimine), Tetracyclines (Sumycin), Thyroid Drugs
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another silver bullet http://www.pharmacychoice.com/News/article.cfm?Article_ID=67 89
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I have read similar articles on colloidal silver, but there never seems to be exact info on what they mean by ultrfine or some other non-defined measuring system. The previous post states (1-10 nano-meters) as the size required to be effective.

So what is the product??

 

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ok,we have microns and nanometer.

nano is 1000 smaller than a micron.

my solution consist of nanoparticules and ions,the smallest particules availlable

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http://www.pfonline.com/articles/020401.html

i can be a pain in the ass. or a stupid ,or a genius.............it  is up to you

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Mostly you're just confusing Virusil.  I have a CS generator and a spray bottle of solution sitting next to me.  Are you saying that it's no good?  I can only save myself from H5N1 if I have your super duper secret formula?
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it is good,

but do you have the right dosage

,the right volumes

,the right particule size

the right ,charge ,,,positive and negative ones

the right concentration....................

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I hope so?  I have a commercial kit.  Standard hydrolysis machine with neodymium magnetic stirrers.  Plug it in, add distilled water turn it on and turn it off when the light goes off.  Beyond that I really couldn't say.
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super duper you said................... mine is a super bullet.

 i would say a big yes

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How much does a full treatment course cost?  Can we get it from you?
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well let us see that.....

biophysica..............not so bad,,,,,,,,,,,,what is the concentration

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you smell good tonight and you seem to be polite..........

i ask for an official excuse before answering

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See now you lost me again.
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i am talking to the dancing baby about an apology not to you fafhredwhat is the name of your machine so ican help you...........
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waiting for an apology.....................

the price is 22usx12 =264 usd

plus shipping and handling

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Ah it's called the Silver Puppy.  The company I bought it through had a coyote in the name.  Thanks for the clarification.
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More info please

 

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ok fafhred it is a crude machine it will save you ,but dont over use  it,i mean since we dont know the concentration or the particule size,be sure touse distilled water,important.......

prepare some batches as soon as you feel the need

,they dont tellyou the concentration .........bizarre

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mahshadin what do you want to know.............
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Just found the site.  This is what they had to say about its concentrations.


Colloidal Science Lab [Frank Key] AA spectrophotometer returned a "Plug n' Play" PPM of 11.29 at 85.7% ionic and I have no 'good' reason to doubt it.
Even with "Worst Case" total neglect...makes very nice Colloidal Silver [Pay a little attention and the difference can be dramatic]
87% Ionic [single atom minus an electron at 0.000252 microns] http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Ag/radi i.html
14.3% Particle portion:
54% @ 55.65nm or .0565 microns
45%@ 132.9 nm or .1329 microns

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still crude,but will save your life,make it fresh,and drink at least a litre per day for ten days when bf hit you
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Ok buddy, thanks for the info.  I felt like we actually communicated there.  It was a first!  
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keep well
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ARRRGGGG... this is a repeat at attempting to post this....

Ladies and Gentlemen,

While I grasp at wisps of smoke if I even have a hint of potential benefit, PLEASE keep in mind that there is a GALAXSY of difference between in vitro and in vivo ( in a dish and in a living body).

Virusil, you still haven't proven your case ( for me anyway) but please keep trying to educate us, I am willing to be enlightened.

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as you can see i will save you i just did it with fahfred that got a machine i just gave him the power to go with the right dosage,by the way sophia i am a milllionaire..........i wished i am like bill gates so i can save the whole world .........but even with that believe me i know it from my practice that people will still ask questions ,and more questions..........i am already a millionaire,iam doing that to help you out there,why dont you get the picture straight
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Where is this liquid coming from

What is the concentration of silver

What are the particle sizes

What is the dosage recomendation

Is this a FDA approved Liquid

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Virusil,

I really don't want to fight about this and I feel that sometimes I am a bit hard on your "silver bullet" because I know you just want to help us, and I truly do appreciate that.

But Lysol kills virus in vitro too, that doesn't mean I'm gonna drink it and that it will work to kill virus lodged in my lungs.

I'm sorry, I just don't see how one equals the other when it comes to proving the benefits of colloidal silver.  I understand that some people swear by it, and bless them for it.  There are those that discount some of my theories of treatment.  Each person is responsible for doing the research and making the decisions based on best available information in regards to their personal situation.

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virusil,
 
It is interesting that, to SophiaZoe, you said "i am already a millionaire,iam doing that to help you out there,why dont you get the picture straight".  And in another area, you said to me
"listen to me., my only reason is to save lives this is my mission,dollars i dont want,i am a millionaire put it right in your head i am doing this to help".  [emphasis mine -FRN]
 
So when I asked you about the COST of your treatment, I was expecting you to offer it FOR FREE, not "264 usd plus shipping and handling."  Since dollars you don't want, shouldn't the cost be ZERO?
 
Mother Theresa saved THOUSANDS, and SHE didn't have millions.
 
As for an apology, no in THIS reality.
 
 
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please dont compare lysol to my solution,

i can put my solution in my eyes ,and surely i cant put the lysol in my eyes,dont mix apples with oranges,i repeat from my practice that silver will save you,nothing under this sun works like it,and it will never be common to the people because they are controlling everything,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you dont see it because younever used it,i did on thousands and thousands of people,and i saw the results,and i am always amazed.....................

let me tell you something,

samsung devellopped those product and even you didnt think that home appliances is already done using silver,the problem with americans that they feel that they are right all the time....wrong most of the time you are.sophia i myself admire you because you are open to learn ,i have to admit it.if everybody was like you ...................but it is not the case.

exemple if you gave me a picasso which worth millions i will not put it in my bed room,,,,,,,,,,,,,style,preferences,,,,,are there,

but truth is truth.

 as well silver is the silver bullet,God permit this expression to stay with us for a purpose......and if youuse your spiritual eye you will understand what i say

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so i have a dead dancing baby

since there is no excuse comin......................

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Hello,

I grew up on an organic farm and my mother is a natural homeopath and a registered nurse.  She and others including myself believe that one natural anti-viral agent is Colloidal Silver.   Through out my childhood and to this day we as a family have taken it and we believe it has helped us be healthier than your average person.   I do not have the scientific methodology to back up my statements.  I posted this in the natural anti-viral section when i first joined this forum.  I know that this may seem strange but I stand by my own experience.  I highly recommend and believe it is up to the individual to do their own research.  There is little medical evidence using current scientific methodology.  But as the great philosopher John Ralston Saul argued common sense should supersede scientific rationalism.   Scientific rationalism to a large extent is pushed by our free market economy and the concentration of capital.  Therefore, my conspiracy/coincidence theory "spider sense" goes off when it comes to Colloidal Silver verses the pharmaceutical movement.  A common agent that can be made with a device that anyone can purchase as our friend "fafhrd" pointed out in the post above.  This whole piece I write is opinion with a great deal of practical experience on better living.  My 2 cents.

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i dont need money i need respect,and if youare in search for a mother,i highly refuse such a child
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Again, a reply with NO ANSWERS!  Avoidance of the issues put to you merely make you seem less credible.
 
The attacker must vanquish, the defender need only survive.
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