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How the common cold can boot out Covid

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    Posted: March 22 2021 at 11:47pm

This is interesting news, but given how badly many countries have been hit over winter this does not seem to make much of a practical dent in the SAR-CoV2 spread.


Originally posted by "BBC" "BBC" wrote:

]The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out of the body's cells, say researchers. 

Some viruses are known to compete in order to be the one that causes an infection.

And University of Glasgow scientists say it appears cold-causing rhinovirus trumps coronavirus.

The benefits might be short-lived, but rhinovirus is so widespread they add it could still help to suppress Covid. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56483445

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DJ-Without the "common cold" virusses Covid19 proberbly would have hit even harder...

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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

DJ-Without the "common cold" virusses Covid19 proberbly would have hit even harder...

I think your correct there DJ,at least there is a little immunity from the cold virus , against covid,I believe that the J& J vaccine is based on a human cold virus,and the AZ is based on a monkey cold  virus....

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So you're saying I should be glad I've been down with a common cold for the last 7 or 8 days?  I had to laugh thinking I was the only person I knew who got a bad cold but avoided covid.

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DJ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold#Viruses[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold#Viruses ;The common cold is an infection of the upper respiratory tract which can be caused by many different viruses. The most commonly implicated is a rhinovirus (30–80%), a type of picornavirus with 99 known serotypes.[30] Other commonly implicated viruses include human coronaviruses (≈ 15%),[31][32] influenza viruses (10–15%),[33][34][35] adenoviruses (5%),[33] human respiratory syncytial virus (orthopneumovirus), enteroviruses other than rhinoviruses, human parainfluenza viruses, and human metapneumovirus.[36] Frequently more than one virus is present.[37] In total, more than 200 viral types are associated with colds.[4]

If you did get a cold from some of the corona virusses [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus#Infection_in_humans[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus#Infection_in_humans I understand it could effect immunity for Covid19. But this study [url]https://www.livescience.com/antibodies-common-cold-no-coronavirus-infection.html[/url] or https://www.livescience.com/antibodies-common-cold-no-coronavirus-infection.html ;But a new study, published Tuesday (Feb. 9) in the journal Cell, finds antibodies to such seasonable coronaviruses do not prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection or reduce disease severity. 

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In any case, even if further, larger studies confirm that seasonal coronavirus antibodies are not protective, that doesn't mean there aren't other types of immune cells, other than antibodies that are lingering from past cold infections that could have a protective role and haven't yet been tested, according to the statement. For instance, T cells that respond to the original SARS-COV-1 virus stick around for decades, and some also bind to SARS-CoV-2, a July 2020 study in the journal Nature found.

"Although antibodies from prior coronavirus infections cannot prevent SARS-CoV-2 infections, it is possible that pre-existing memory B cells and T cells could potentially provide some level of protection or at least reduce the disease severity of COVID-19," Hensley said. "Studies need to be completed to test that hypothesis.”

DJ I think we are still learning...the BBC article is on [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus ...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus#Rhinovirus_and_SARS-CoV-2[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus#Rhinovirus_and_SARS-CoV-2 

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

So you're saying I should be glad I've been down with a common cold for the last 7 or 8 days?  I had to laugh thinking I was the only person I knew who got a bad cold but avoided covid.

Count your blessings WM ,good to have you back ,was getting a little concerned 

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From what I'm reading, all of the mask-wearing, hand-washing & social distancing has helped to reduce transmission of most respiratory diseases including influenza and colds. 

I've wondered what the interaction between common cold strains of coronavirus and SARS-CoV2 might be, not sure if they re-assort in a human cell like different flu strains do.  Seems possible however. 

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So I am happy that the flu and cold are on a downward trend because of the hand sanitizing and masks, but does anyone fear the outcome will be a reduced immunity to flu that could result in bad things later?  Just pondering.

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Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

So I am happy that the flu and cold are on a downward trend because of the hand sanitizing and masks, but does anyone fear the outcome will be a reduced immunity to flu that could result in bad things later?  Just pondering.

That's one of my biggest concerns,

What happens here when we all get the covid vaccine,open up to international tourist/flights,

Will we all come down with the flu or something else 🤔

After all it's not rocket science it's germ warfare.....us against them......lol

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BUT we have learned from this time that hand washing, masks, and social distancing can put an almost total stop to flu.....so there is hope that IF/when there is a flu pandemic we know how to handle it,   

From the CDC report  (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

Quote A total of one influenza-associated pediatric death occurring during the 2020-2021 season has been reported to CDC.
whereas the average, since reporting became manditory, is 126.5 deaths per year,  

Also in the following chart I can see no yellow (influenza deaths) in the current year (so next to nothing)


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