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Downeaster 
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 Topic: Information from the GovernmentPosted: February 25 2006 at 5:53am |
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It seems to me that the reason that this topic is not getting more play in
the mainstream media or from the Government, (Aside from the odd article or summit.) is that the government has run the possible outcomes and realise that nothing they can do will help very much. Like Katrina, worst case situations only serve to show the limitations of goverment and their ability to protect the public. No government wants that to be out in the pubic domain. Nobody (read elected officials) wins. The common way to handle problems is to delay and hope it goes away. We don't have a bad political system...It is really limited in its ability to make a difference in our lives if this virus gets out of hand. We can prep and hope that this never comes. If it does, we will have a better chance of seeing the other side. I am not an end of the world guy. We will get through this. The possible civil unrest for those of us that have preped and are getting by better than the masses is very troubling. I have no solutions, but if it does get out of hand the possiblity for a Katrina style response from the unprepared is likely. I have no doubt that this thing is farther along than any might guess. I have spent a great deal of time in Africa. There is NO infrastucture to even recognise a pandemic, let alone deal with it. |
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 6:37am |
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Downeaster wrote: There is NO infrastucture to even recognise a pandemic, let alone deal with it. You bring up a point that I didn't even think about. I keep looking for more stories out of Africa. Since I haven't been there, I have only heard about some of the poor conditions. It didn't occur to me that perhaps there really isn't a way for the rest of us to find out the intensity of the situation there due to, as you mentioned, no infrastructure. Thanks for the post and welcome!
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 6:52am |
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Perhaps a witch doctor could give us a report from africa
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 6:52am |
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Always best to step outside the box once in awhile...this yo-yo ride of news has done it tole on many...and I guess you are right there is really nothing our governmenst can do now...they could have before(maybe) and now it is to late... I think the avian flu in birds is the worst case scenario..we cannot kill all of the birds..and even with bird flu there are so many of them dying..imagine the bug population soon... I live in northern Canada and if we were to lose just half of our bird population, I will not be able to go outside in the spring at all with the black flies..we get eaten enough by them and then mosquitos would have a better chance of breeding and pass along west nile..oh the circle of life..why in my time... |
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Downeaster
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 7:07am |
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To put things in Africa in perspective. To cross a 1/2 wide mile wide river
with no bridge may take an hour or a whole day! The ferry may or may not be working. And this was in Tanzania...one of the more developed countries! Last time I was there we came across a whole village dead of Cholera. 60 odd people. The Africans have a different way of looking at life. Africa does NOT function in any way most of us can fathom. I believe it will be the real melting pot for H2H. What happens when it starts to hit those with HIV. So many of the villages are so remote WHO will never know. |
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 7:16am |
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Could there be other possible mutations of this virus that they are not telling us about..or cannot..and they figure why say anything anyways.. Thier hands are tied and there is not alot anyone can do about this..just let it hit and why panic the populious when there is nothing anyone can do about it anyways... |
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 7:49am |
And, most disturbing, the sobering knowledge that even within the realms where the government CAN help, it will suffer from administrative paralysis because there is no pre-defined course of action. Even the most well-intended government workers have no authority or initiative to "think outside the box" when confronting issues that have not been encountered before. Look at the American gulf coast today. We are 100 days from the start of the 2006 hurricane season. It's been about six months since Katrina and the resulting floods destroyed key infrastructures, homes, and spread contaminated water and mud everywhere. If we had experienced decisive government action on that front, I would feel MUCH better about our ability to respond to a pandemic. However, many spots along the coast look little different from how they did right after the disaster struck. Not because of a lack of resources, but because all the involved agencies can't agree who should pay for the needed action. The word out of all of these state summits is the same: if a pandemic strikes, states and local communities are likely to be on their own. I believe them. |
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Like Katrina, worst case situations only serve to show the