Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
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Tomek
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Posted: February 12 2006 at 11:47am |
somone just wrote : Today I was coming back home from a weekend in the central mountains for some sky, when i was on the autoroute directed to rome at about 100 KM from the capital on the A25 Autoroute, I have seen someting that freozen my bloood and that i have NEVER seen in my life only later thinking of this I have seen the orrible reality of when nature die. |
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What a nightmare reality.
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Welcome Tomek..what a first post..but still welcome to the board..it would greatly appreciated if you could keep us updated..always nice to have first hand accounts of what is going and thank you, must have been horrible for you..especially since you are posting here and are in the know of avian flu..keep care of wife and kids all the best to you..and please post back ...
ok I see the first line now..someone wrote...can you tell us were this happened.. Edited by muskrat |
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Hopefully nobody got out of their car to take a close look.
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Tomek
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I pm to him he will be soon here
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Thanks for the information Tomek, and welcome to our group!
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Tomek
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It was last autumn 2005 .
One person from Poland wrote a letter that she was obserwing water birds on one lake area in east part of Poland . She said that all kinde of water birds died there even swans ( autumn 2005 ). now look that it is truth and we slow get this informations this week that also swans and crows . she said that all kinde of birds died . so it not looks well diferent kinde of birds start to fly to east Europe few days ago from Africa . We expect they will arrive to us in half of the March . the same sytuation which one is in Europe will happening in USA next year . |
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Yes, it is only a matter of time. And if it goes human-to-human transmission, it will be here in the USA a lot sooner.
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Tomek
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yes you probably know more and more persons who travel in time and see the future .
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this is really getting freaky. H2H I'm sure will be not far behind
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May God protect us all.
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Tomek, welcome to the group, I am glad you didn't have a accident with all the birds on the road like that. I'm very sad to hear this. I am a bird lover (Parrot), and to hear of all this, makes me worry that we will lose most of our birds, to this horrible flu. Even if we can stop it from going H2H, this is a huge lose to the planet. I wonder if any of the birds will survive? |
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Tomek
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welcom to eweryonce again and thank you . I apologieze but I live in Poland and it is not easy for me to know english well . anway go to the subject . yes it looks that we will lost many birds and the same like you I,m wery sad to hear this becauce I,m bird lover to . you ask how many of this birds survive . many survive , this virus do not kill some kinds of birds yes so it is good news in this moment for us . anyway news about swans are sad in this moment but we have to look forvard becocue nobody know exactly how bad this virus is for them omitting scientists who where in Africa last months . personaly I didnt hear any news in this subject from them .
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Corn
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tell him to disinfect his auto and family. The air vents in the car could have let some of the virus in. Go to doctor and get prescriptions for Tamiflu. they will need to take one tablet a day for 6 weeks if they are suspected. what else can be done? |
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Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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Tomek
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yes they told him to do it on the other forum for birds lovers http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?include=all&p hoto_id=4112260
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Roman
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Hello all, Tomek sent me a PM on the other forum to come over there. I can confirm you my story that in fact happened just today a few hours ago.
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wow. How many birds were there?
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Roman
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Let me add this happened in central italy on the autoroute A25, I have not stopped the car i had to slow down considerably due to the high number of bird dead on the road to avoid to run over with the car, but they where so many i think at least a hundred or more dead and thousands more on the side of the autoroute alive but not flying and evidently sick as they looked at least some of the liek they where barely able to walk.
H5N1 as been confirmed by the media officially in italy now as well. |
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Roman
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Honestly I havent been able to see details like these I just tried to avoid to run over the corpses but they where so many placed over a few temd of meters on the road that was ipossible to avoid to run over all of them, but they where for sure all dead the one on the road and the other on the side many where not moving while other looked like they where standing there for now reason.
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Roman
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the radio reported a few birds found dead just 5 min before this happened at a location not more than 50 Km from where i was.
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h5n1 does not have sustained transmission among humans, however, bird to human transmission seems to be fairly robust, and almost seems sustained B2H. Stay way away from any dead birds. h5n1 is relatively contagious at this point. This thing is really spreading like wildfire now. I think it's time to pull inthe humming bird feeders. |
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Roman
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I understand I was inside my car but i would have much better avoided this route if i only know about what was going to find in there.. I am calling the 1500 a number the government placed and will start to acceot call tomorrow for reports about dead birds found over the country. It is a serius thing now i know, I have seen that and now I am starting to be scared also I have see a number of big Bird storms going northward while i was doing these 100 km to come back home, they all semes to head in the same norther direction as of fleying from someting, this is just a sensation i had.
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If you ran over them with your car, perhaps you should disinfect your tires/car to some degree. Maybe use some sort of bleach/spray.
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CupcakeMom
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Roman: Thank you for coming to our forum and posting your information here. Please be careful. Disinfecting the outside of your car would be an excellent idea. H5N1 is nasty, but in the end it is still just an influenza virus and will be killed by the usual, commonplace disinfectants. Try just bleach solution, for example. Are you Italian, living in Ireland? Or from Poland? I'm confused. Best wishes - cupcake mom |
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Roman
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I might have run over one or 2 doind a dangerous slalom on the autorute. I will tell my wife as it was my wife car we used, to do it tomorrow. Anyway look like hundreds cenutries of medicine and researches have not got us away from the pandemics it just changed name.. Cya all. |
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Any media reports on these dead birds. I could use them to update the map http://www.recombinomics.com/H5N1_Map_2006_AfricaF.html
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Yikes, I hope that you and your family will be fine. Get to the Doctor and disinfect your car. You and your family will be in my prayers. God Bless
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Corn
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Funny with all the thousands of reporters there from all over the world covering the olympics, I bet you will not find one BF story except for the usual government releases. Democracy is dead. Freedom is not far behind.
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Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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masterchief
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yea i just wanted to say that im really intersteded in your find
because my parents are taking a vaction in Italy ( Im like 80 % sure)
and they said it was going to be really soon. So id appreciate it if
anyone here could keep this particular story up to date.
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sh*t happens
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Dualis
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Chicken Little was crying out "The sky is Falling!" for a good reason.
If I drove thru a bunch of birdl like that, I would be tempted to soak the whole car in Lysol |
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4:50 a.m.: Italy's health minister toured parts of southern Italy where six wild swans infected with H5N1 were found as officials sought to allay fears by saying people need only follow simple precautions to keep the virus from spreading. Francesco Storace arrived in Catania, Sicily, and planned to visit the regions of Calabria and Puglia on the Italian mainland where the infected birds were discovered. The visit came a day after the Health Ministry confirmed that test results had come back positive for the H5N1 virus strain on a swan found in Puglia -- the sixth positive result in Italy. |
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Italy: Don't touch dead birdsSometimes you have to wonder what our political masters think of our collective intelligence. And sometimes you have to wonder that maybe they're right. Consider the Italian health ministry: Italy Issues Bird Flu Warning.
I can't imagine why anyone would think that touching a dead bird is necessary. |
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We need a internation forum with firs thand accounts exactly like what posted here. Any one want to start the board And thanks to those who posted here its really appreciated.
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I read this thred lat night and did not believe it. I read it now and dont want to believe it. then i read the possible poisoning thred in Ireland. Is there 1 media report out there to confirm this, just 1 plz not because i dont believe you Roman but coupled with the I reland thred and the lousy media coverage anyway things are gettin a little scarry. livin in th uk it could be time to quarintene the cat if birds are fallin from the sky... |
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Those types of boards are already here. Scroll down to the bottom of the main page and you will see all of the new forums that were recently created for each individual continent. You will also see that there is a forum called "Europe". Canada has their own forum now as well. |
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Tomek
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from the reason that Roman didnt come back and we didnt hear nothing more news like this from Italy I must say where I read this story that eweryonce can decided was it truth or not becocue my thread is pined now so adres of the original thread is here http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid= 210736&mpage=&showdate=
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Corn
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I believe you!
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Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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I believe as well, and we have pm back and forth. don't let that site make you feel bad. Take care
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