DJ We are in a major crisis-there is a lot of proof of Ivermectin being effective in all stages of Covid19-prevention to severe cases. Still "authorities" look for complex expensive solutions-seem to care more for profit then for lives...

See also [url]https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf[/url] or https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf 

Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson got banned from YouTube for being pro Ivermectin...

Some Ivermectin links [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWQtT7dHGE&t=9s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWQtT7dHGE&t=9s Dr.John Campbell

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u21N8Vu4kOk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u21N8Vu4kOk Dr. Chrissy Risinger..

The petition; [url]https://www.change.org/p/nih-update-your-covid-19-guidelines-regarding-ivermectin-so-fewer-people-die[/url] or https://www.change.org/p/nih-update-your-covid-19-guidelines-regarding-ivermectin-so-fewer-people-die 

DJ-Protecting yourself may become a job on its own-wearing a mask if you do need to go outside...protecting others you can help by signing this petition. 

(I hope I do not break any forum rules by this post-If I do-sorry...let me know..)

Wow, they deleted the petition...   

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg Dr. John Campbell finding out Ivermectin is a cheap medication (no big profit) preventing getting ill from Covid-also helpfull in long-covid. 

DJ-Big Pharma has a terrible history of profit "at all cost"-AND is ruling the "science"community and with that political actions. 

If we find out there was a cheap effective treatment-Ivermectin-all the time-but it was not used because of greed-and politics failing to do their job-what kind of response would be fitting ? Who should be send to the [url]https://www.icc-cpi.int/[/url] or https://www.icc-cpi.int/ ? 

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court; The International Criminal Court (ICC or ICCt)^[2] is an intergovernmental organization and international tribunal that sits in The Hague, Netherlands. The ICC is the first and only permanent international court with jurisdiction to prosecute individuals for the international crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression. It is intended to complement existing national judicial systems and it may therefore exercise its jurisdiction only when national courts are unwilling or unable to prosecute criminals. The ICC lacks universal territorial jurisdiction, and may only investigate and prosecute crimes committed within member states, crimes committed by nationals of member states, or crimes in situations referred to the Court by the United Nations Security Council.

DJ-This pandemic is man made by not taking action in time to spread the virus. Both countries and international organizations (like the WHO) have a responsibility in this. 

It is "beyond any reasonable doubt" that already the (in)action by many governments, organizations should be seen as a crime. 

It is "to simple" to put all the blame on "the Chinese WHO". Big Pharma-behind the scene-did play a major role. 

Political ideology that put profit above public well being should be considered "criminal". Healthcare should be public and not for profit-for ALL ! Worldwide-if we realy want to stop a pandemic !

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19DPijOoVKE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19DPijOoVKE Dr. John Campbell on Ivermectin-interview with Dr. Pierre Kory-claiming it is effective from prevention to long covid, severe cases...Also discussion on dosages...experiences in a.o. India, Zimbabwe...

Their conclusion is Ivermectin may be usefull agains Dengue, Ebola, lots of viral diseases...but Big Pharma is not making profit out of it-and politics does leave dealing with viral disease to Big Pharma...[url]https://www.medincell.com/ivermectin[/url] or https://www.medincell.com/ivermectin 

DJ-If the story on Ivermectin being effective (from several sources) are correct the ONLY reason we have this pandemic is PROFIT for Big Pharma...The main goal for "medical science" seems to be profit...

[url]https://www.ucsusa.org/resources[/url] or https://www.ucsusa.org/resources Union of Concerned Scientists

[url]https://osf.io/wx3zn/[/url] or https://osf.io/wx3zn/ ; the FLCCC recently discovered that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic medicine, has highly potent real-world, anti-viral, and anti-inflammatory properties against SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19. This conclusion is based on the increasing numbers of study results reporting effectiveness, not only within vitro and animal models, but also in numerous randomized and observational controlled clinical trials. Repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes have now been recorded when ivermectin is used not only as a prophylactic agent but also in mild, moderate, and even severe disease states. The review that follows of the existing evidence for ivermectin relies on “emerging” data in that, although compelling, only a minority of studies have been published in peer-reviewed publications with the majority of results compiled from manuscripts uploaded to medicine pre-print servers or posted on clinicaltrials.gov.

DJ-The basic point is who is "in control and why"-do we leave politics to a mix of big companies going for profit via "politicians for rent" or do we manage to get politics working for the public interest ? 

Finnish firm earns US patent for Covid drug containing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine  

-- Now they need to find a drug company willing to market it.....

The Turku company says its nasal spray delivers low, safe doses of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and aprotinin. .... According to the company, the nasal spray acts on cell function in nasal mucous in three ways, impairing the ability of the virus to penetrate the body and multiply, thus reducing the risk of serious illness.  ..... All the drug molecules covered by the patent are approved for the treatment of other diseases, but if used systemically, for instance as pills or infusions swallowed by patients, the amounts of drugs would be high and potentially harmful. For topical use, as in a nasal spray, the concentrations of the active ingredients throughout the body remain very low but are sufficient locally to prevent the passage and replication of the virus, making the drug safer and more effective, says Therapeutica Borealis.  .....

Two reports on Ivermectin; one in Zimbabwe, the other in India; 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYCRV6RUKBQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYCRV6RUKBQ ; Reflecting on ivermectin use in Zimbabwe, Dr Jackie Stone describes how covid-19 is now under control and everyone has the drug in their home medicine cupboard.

And [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMkB2ZH7TM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMkB2ZH7TM ; Dr Suryakant explains how a white paper enabled him and his colleagues to argue the case for ivermectin use and resulted in Government support for ivermectin-based treatment and prophylaxis in Uttar Pradesh.

DJ [url]https://medicalupdateonline.com/[/url] or https://medicalupdateonline.com/ lots of info...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/indonesia-regulator-allows-ivermectin-use-covid-treatment[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/indonesia-regulator-allows-ivermectin-use-covid-treatment ; 

According to Bloomberg, Indonesia’s food and drug regulator, known as BPOM, has issued a letter approving the distribution of Ivermectin, Remdesivir, Favipiravir, Oseltamivir, immunoglobulin, Tocilizumab, Azithromycin and Dexametason to be used in treatment of Covid-19, according to a statement from the agency. The latter, Bloomberg adds, was issued as guidance for distributors of the drugs.

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BPOM's head Penny K. Lukito said at a press conference on Monday (June 28) that global data and guidelines from the World Health Organization (WHO) show that Ivermectin, previously used for deworming, can also be used for Covid-19 treatment. However, while the BOMP said on June 28 that data are still being collected and the results are not conclusive, it appears that two weeks later it has found enough conclusive data to formally approve Ivermectin for covid treatment.

Indonesia is scrambling to contain the covid pandemic, having overnight surpassed India’s daily Covid-19 case numbers, and becoming Asia's new virus epicenter as the spread of the highly-contagious delta variant drives up infections in Southeast Asia’s largest economy.

The country has seen its daily case count cross 40,000 for three straight days -- including a record high of 54,517 on Wednesday -- up from less than 10,000 a month ago. Officials are concerned that the more transmissible new variant is now spreading outside of the country’s main island, Java, and could exhaust hospital workers and supplies of oxygen and medication.

DJ-The Delta variant may push a lot more countries towards Ivermectin (etc).

The Guardian Australia: Australian pharmacists report rise in customers refusing to say what ivermectin prescription is for.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/01/australian-pharmacists-report-rise-in-customers-refusing-to-say-what-ivermectin-prescription-is-for

carbon20 wrote: The Guardian Australia: Australian pharmacists report rise in customers refusing to say what ivermectin prescription is for. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/01/australian-pharmacists-report-rise-in-customers-refusing-to-say-what-ivermectin-prescription-is-for

So what amazes me about this is that pharmacists are allowed to ask what a prescription is for. What about personal privacy?????? Surely if it's a prescription it's been written by a doctor and it's none of their bloody business. 

On the other side of the ditch, here in NZ, no one is allowed to ask you that. The doctors receptionists can't ask you, not even a nurse in the surgery if you are not actually seeing her. A nurse recently lost her job for looking at someone's medical records without permission - she was being nosy and wanted to know what her friend was suffering from, but her friend had refused to tell her so she looked and was fired - and so she should have been. 

We take our right to confidentiality very seriously here. If my local pharmacist asked me I'd certainly have some fairly strong words to say to him. 

I was in the UK a few years ago and had to go to a doctors to replace something I had lost and was amazed that the receptionist wanted me to outline my medical history with her. I asked her if she was a doctor, and she said no but......  Needless to say I refused to discuss my personal business with her but I was shocked to then find out this was standard practice over there. i have to ask the question, why are people everywhere giving up their personal freedoms and human rights???

Wow!!!

[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states-ab/united-states-covid-19-sars-cov-2-september-13-2020-may-31-2021/922736-demand-surges-for-deworming-drug-for-covid-despite-scant-evidence-it-works-prescriptions-for-ivermectin-have-jumped-to-more-than-88-000-per-week[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states-ab/united-states-covid-19-sars-cov-2-september-13-2020-may-31-2021/922736-demand-surges-for-deworming-drug-for-covid-despite-scant-evidence-it-works-prescriptions-for-ivermectin-have-jumped-to-more-than-88-000-per-week one of latest reactions; 

(Merck is the manufacturer of Vermectin.)

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. ...

... Indications and Usage for STROMECTOL® (ivermectin)

Ivermectin is approved in the United States under the brand name STROMECTOL. STROMECTOL is indicated for the treatment of intestinal (i.e., nondisseminated) strongyloidiasis due to the nematode parasite Strongyloides stercoralis and for the treatment of onchocerciasis due to the nematode parasite Onchocerca volvulus.

It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

• No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
• No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
• A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies. ...

STROMECTOL has no activity against adult Onchocerca volvulus parasites. ...

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-sta...d-19-pandemic/

DJ This statement will not end the discussion...If vaccines fail people may try all kind of things...DJ-Not taking/accepting vaccines but willing to take Ivermectin does not sound very logic to me-it could be some people make such a choice. Ivermectin was/is used in some countries because there are not (yet) enough vaccines...But even that does not convince the producer to claim it may-in anyway-have "any potential therapeutic effect against COVID 19"....

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-08-27-cdc-alerts-clinicians-surge-ivermectin-poisoning-during-pandemic

CDC alerts clinicians to surge in ivermectin poisoning during pandemic

 Aug 27, 2021 - 01:53 PM

CDC-alert

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention yesterday alerted health care providers and the public to reports of severe illness associated with using products containing ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19. While ivermectin is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to treat infections caused by parasites, it is not authorized or approved to prevent or treat COVID-19. Dispensing of ivermectin by retail pharmacies and calls to poison control centers involving the drug have increased sharply during the pandemic, however. In some cases, people have ingested products purchased without a prescription, including topical formulations and veterinary products, CDC said. Clinical effects of ivermectin poisoning can range from gastrointestinal symptoms to hypotension and neurological effects.

Fig. 3 in the above report is not a cartoon designed to dupe the reader-prisoner. These authors’ reputations are on the line. The science shows ivermectin docking to SARS-CoV-2. It’s interesting to see how Homo sapiens reacts to scientific facts by de-reifying them. Here’a another one that links to Raoult’s and Zelenko’s anti-COVID-19 protocol. Amino acid positions F135 and N137 are not far away from the tyrosine at position 103, where ivermectin also attaches. The reader’s problem will have been not to know about ganglioside mimicry:

May 2020  France Synergistic Antiviral Effect of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Combination Against SARS-CoV-2: What Molecular Dynamics Studies of Virus-Host Interactions Reveal

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405156

’....Azithromycin is directed against the virus, whereas CLQ-OH is directed against cellular attachment cofactors. We conclude that both drugs act as competitive inhibitors of SARS-CoV-2 attachment to host-cell membranes.’

I'm a big fan of Dr Vladimir Zelenko. He talks alot of sense.

Current research suggests that hydroxychloroquine is not safe or effective for treating patients with COVID-19 (as of October 8, 2020). Early in the pandemic, patients may have received hydroxychloroquine under “Emergency Use Authorization,” but it did not reduce morbidity or mortality. 

The FDA announced a warning on using hydroxychloroquine on COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting due to the risk of heart rhythm problems (source). Hydroxychloroquine during this pandemic has taught scientists to be more cautious of using drugs as emergency treatments without evidence from trials (source). The best way to learn how to treat COVID-19 is to conduct randomized controlled clinical trials, but many hydroxychloroquine studies have been stopped early due to safety concerns.

$85 a pill.......

Why bother when a vaccine is free and proven to work......

Foolish people......

Take care all 😷😉💉

Before vaccines were available, Raoult  was using a synergistic combination, azithromycin and hcq. Zelenko then pioneered the trinity, azithromycin, hcq, zinc.

Because you then throw the baby out with the bathwater. Omura first used his discovery, ivermectin, on a nematode that infects mice. That nematode also occurs in the Camas Pocket Gopher, Thomomys, endemic to the Willamette Valley, Oregon, called by the Indians “Valley of Sickness.” The gopher comes into contact with the long-tailed weasel, which then links by default to mink coronavirus and parasites of proven SARS-CoV reservoirs such as civet and raccoon dog. Opisthorchis, links to cholangiocarcinoma in Rousettus, reservoir of Mengla filovirus. Mengla is not far from the Mojiang copper mine.

carbon20 wrote: $85 a pill....... Why bother when a vaccine is free and proven to work...... Foolish people...... Take care all 😷😉💉

Free but NOT proven to work.

Yes, the glutamate-chloride channels mentioned in the previous post. Here is more:

Merck (1997) / Streptomyces avermitilis

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29379487

'The experiments presented in this paper predict that high level resistance to ivermectin may be rare because of the presence of several avermectin-sensitive GluCl channel subunits, each of which may need to be mutated to confer resistance.

Specific elimination of GluCl transcripts by RNaseH digestion was employed to confirm that other C. elegans genes exist that can encode avermectin sensitive GluCl channels.'

The interesting possibility is that Streptomyces evolved to synthesize the avermectins precisely due to viral infection:

Streptomyces avermitilis Phage MA-4680 (phiSAV)

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/BA000030.4

'RRYR.'

So why does this putative endonuclease VII have the same furin-like sequence as Worobey's coelacanth retrovirus?