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Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

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    Posted: March 11 2006 at 11:01am
I'm not sure where to post this since it encompasses several threads already running, so instead of cut-n-paste spamming all of them, I will just create a new one, and the mods can do with it as they will. 

My wife and I are going on a Caribbean cruise at the end of the month.  Before every trip we take out of the country, we go to the Travel Center at a nearby clinic.  The Travel Center is part of the Infectious Diseases department at this large clinic.  They give you updates on the most current diseases and medical issues of where you are going, and then immunize you for what they think is needed.  (It is an EXCELLENT resourse for those travelling out of the country...I have gotten my typhoid vaccine there, and also several courses of Cirpo that we carry in case of Travellers Diarrhea (sic). )  Anyway, I digress...

After our cruise chat, my wife left for work, and I asked the CNP about BF.  I tried to put her at ease to speak about it freely by explaining what I knew, and told her about some of my preps.  We chatted for a good 15 minutes about it, and I did NOT leave there feeling good about this situation at all.  I'll paraphrase the salient points:

  • She has preps at home, "ala Y2K" she said.
  • She is single, no family, and would report to work until she got sick.
  • She said that she believes it will mutate to H2H.
  • She figured it would still be at least 6 months before it affects US.
  • She thinks it has the potential to be catastrophic, medically and economically.
  • She talked about the "hidden" information in China being quite serious, and that could mean bad things in China already.
  • She said that Tamaflu doesn't SEEM to be effective against BF.
  • She said that she believes that "they" are close to a vaccine, even though they don't have the exact virus to work from. 
  • SHe said that she felt that the Gov't (CDC) would release info based on other factors (panic, economics, ect.) and might not be the most reliable source for speading tracking.
  • She discussed "homeopathic" stuff for the flu and felt that if these supplements worked, the CDC and others would be jumping on this and trying to get the word out.  ( I disagree with her here.)
  • SHe said that the pneumonia vaccine won't help.
  • She said that in the event of a pandemic, there would be a shortage of ventilators, and there would be a LOT of manual ventilation (bagging), as staffing permitted.
  • She said she felt that hospitals would only be able to take the very sickest, and the rest would have to hope their immune systems could fight it.
  • She said basically it will happen.  And it will get ugly. 
I didn't want to take notes, so this is from memory.  As I recall more, I will post it here.  As I was leaving, I said to her "well, you did NOT put my mind at ease, ya know..."  She just said, basically, it is what it is.

Damn.  

Good Luck Folks.

Nawty

p.s.  BTW, she gave me a web site that she uses to track it.  I havent been there yet, but let you foks know if it's worth a ****.


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USDA calls for backyard biosecurity
JENNIFER BROOKS
Gannett News Service
It's the U.S. Department of Agriculture's idea of a backyard biosecurity nightmare.

A lethal strain of avian influenza is spreading across Asia, Europe and Africa, killing birds and some humans who come in contact with them. As U.S health officials make worst-case scenario plans for the spread of the H5N1 bird flu virus to this country, small backyard flocks are coming under increased scrutiny.

Commercial poultry farms have been practicing biosecurity for decades. Their flocks are tested, vaccinated, screened and scrutinized, and any diseases found are reported to state agriculture officials.

Backyard birds are another story. There is little regulation of the small poultry flocks that live scattered across the country. In 2002, the National Agricultural Statistics Service counted some 1.3 million laying hens on 82,000 small farms with flocks of 50 or fewer chickens.

Since migratory birds appear to be carrying avian flu from one country to another, backyard birds may be far more vulnerable to the disease than commercial flocks that live most of their lives indoors.

The agriculture department has begun an outreach campaign to backyard poultry farmers, urging them to step up biosecurity measures to keep themselves and their birds safe. Farmers are being told to call a toll-free hotline to report sick birds and to keep their birds securely fenced in.

The USDA is also in the early stages of creating a national database of every property with livestock, from large commercial operations to backyard 4-H projects.

The department's National Animal Identification System is voluntary at the moment, but registering with the government likely will be mandatory by 2008. Animals would be tagged and tracked.

So far, the effort has been met with mingled skepticism, exasperation and outright suspicion.

"We're not worried about avian influenza. What we're terrified about is the hysteria surrounding it," said Ussery, a retired postal worker who calls himself the Chicken Man of Hume. "The more paranoid among us think this is quite a deliberate ploy to get rid of backyard flocks."

In Asia, Europe and Africa, one of the first government responses to the bird flu outbreak was to ban backyard flocks in the infected regions.

In this country, outbreaks of mild avian influenza have led to widespread culling of domestic flocks. In 2004, Delaware and Maryland killed thousands of chickens after a handful of birds fell sick at three farms. After an outbreak in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley, agriculture officials ordered the destruction of 4 million turkeys.

USDA officials acknowledge their biosecurity outreach efforts are being resisted.

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 It looks as if US is stepping up security issues with the article above...
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Wisconsin already requires personal livestock herds and flocks to be registered.  Well, the State can kiss my ***.  There is NO way I'm going to register 30 layers.  None of their business. 

However,  I'm seriously considering dressing my flock before things go much further.

Although the eggs are fantastic, with 3 children running around, I don't need that worry.

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