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DJ, cats have shorter lives (in general) than humans have. Cats can get/spread CoViD. So are there studies done on (Long) CoViD in cats ? 

What does long/chronic CoViD looks like in cats and what can we learn from that for humans ? (Long CoViD in cats I use 28 day+-in humans often 3-6 months after infection). 

My view; "natural" immunity in cats after catching CoViD may not last that long...certainly new variants-just like in humans-may find (new) ways to infect. 

Does immunity also decrease after CoViD in cats ? What other diseases are detected ? 

Do cats run more risks for catching CoViD than dogs do ? Can infected cats spread CoViD-to other cats (...first impression; yes...) , dogs/other pets ??? humans (in close contact ? head-to-head ?) and for what time ? 

Can the virus hide in organs in a cat and get reactivated-start maybe even a new infectious phase...? (Just like in humans sometimes "re-infection" may mean the old virus did get active again...often may be an older variant...). 

So what role do cats -more in general non-human hosts- play in continuation of the CoViD pandemic ? 

To my surprise I did find lots of studies on it -via google....so just some basic reviews (with link and date). 

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[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7853591/[/url] or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7853591/ ;2021 Feb; 27

PMCID: PMC7853591
PMID: 33496650

Protective Immunity and Persistent Lung Sequelae in Domestic Cats after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 readily transmits between domestic cats. We found that domestic cats that recover from an initial infection might be protected from reinfection. However, we found long-term persistence of inflammation and other lung lesions after infection, despite a lack of clinical symptoms and limited viral replication in the lungs.

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Previous studies have demonstrated the transmissibility of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) by direct or indirect contact between domestic cats (1,2). Given the close relationship between cats and humans, further characterization of the biology of SARS-CoV-2 in cats is warranted.

We inoculated domestic cats with SARS-CoV-2, and on postinfection days 3, 6, and 10, sampled organs to titrate virus (Appendix Figure 1). In plaque-forming assays in VeroE6/TMPRSS2 cells, infectious viruses were detected in the nasal turbinates and trachea of all animals on day 3, and most on day 6, whereas virus detection in the lungs was limited on day 3 and absent on day 6 (Appendix Figure 2, panel A). 

These results suggest that the virus replicated efficiently in upper respiratory organs, which might contribute to its high transmissibility among cats. Infectious virus was cleared from the upper and lower respiratory organs by day 10 (Appendix Figure 2, panel A). No animal showed any signs of respiratory illness during the study (Appendix Figure 3). Infectious virus was not detected (detection limit 10 pfu/g of tissue) in other examined organs (e.g., brain, liver, spleen, kidney, small and large intestine, heart, and eyelids). Viral antigen was detected in nasal turbinates and trachea but was sparse within the lungs at day 3 (Appendix Figure 4).

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Because SARS-CoV-2 did not cause acute lethal respiratory disease in the cats in our study, cats are a compelling animal model for studying the long-term effects of nonfatal infections. Cats were infected with SARS-CoV-2 and euthanized at postinfection day 28 (Appendix Figure 6, 7). 

Persistent lung lesions were observed 28 days after infection, including histiocytic bronchiolitis with luminal plugs and thickened alveolar septa, similar to lesions observed on day 10 but with more chronic features such as peribronchiolar fibrosis and vascular proliferation within the thickened interstitium. 

We observed a notable dearth of fibrosis within alveolar septa, in contrast to what has been reported for humans with severe acute respiratory syndrome or Middle East respiratory syndrome (3,4). 

One cat had severe pneumonia with fibrin in alveolar spaces and endothelialitis (Appendix Figure 8), similar to what has been reported in humans with fatal coronavirus disease (5), although this cat did not show any respiratory signs.

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To determine whether previous infection provides protection from future potential infection by SARS-CoV-2, we performed a reinfection study with 2 groups of cats. 

We previously reported that SARS-CoV-2 was transmitted from cats inoculated with the virus to cohoused, naive cats (1). In the previous study, the 3 cats that had been inoculated with SARS-CoV-2, whose nasal swabs were virus-negative on day 6 or 7 after the initial infection (1), were reinoculated with the same virus 4 weeks after the initial infection (Figure 1Figure 2, panel A). 

No infectious virus was detected in the nasal or rectal swabs after reinfection, suggesting that the animals were protected from reinfection. 

These cats were euthanized at 21 days after reinfection (49 days after the initial infection), and tissue was submitted for histopathologic examination. The reinfection group showed lesions that were comparable with lung lesions observed on day 28 but with less severe thickening of alveolar septa (p = 0.041, by unpaired t-test) (Figure 1Figure 2 panel B). 

The 3 cats in the other group, which recovered from infection that was transmitted by contact with virus-inoculated cats, were reinfected with the virus at ≈4 weeks (29–32 days) after transmission. 

On day 3 after reinfection, organs were harvested; infectious virus was not detected (detection limit 10 pfu/g of tissue) in respiratory organs or other organs analyzed (e.g., brain, liver, spleen, kidney, small and large intestine, heart, and eyelids). 

These results suggest that virus infection by natural transmission between cats, as well as by experimental inoculation, induces protective immunity against a second SARS-CoV-2 infection.

DJ...this study shows lung damage in cats a month after infection. It did not find virus spreading in (other) organs/staying behind...However this study may have been on the first CoViD variants...Published february 2021 time of study will have been second half of 2020 ? 

In conclusion, SARS-CoV-2 replicated effectively in the upper respiratory tract in cats, and infectious virus was cleared from the lungs within 6 days of infection; however, histopathologic examination demonstrated chronic lung sequelae in cats even a month after viral clearance. After initial infection with SARS-CoV-2, cats were protected from reinfection, with no virus replication in respiratory organs and no additional lung damage.

DJ, so "limited risks in/for cats" based on this (older) study...Long CoViD mostly "Lung CoViD"...bloodvessels in lower respitory system may have been damaged...resulting in breathing problems in a worser scenario...

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[url]https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/could-cat-long-covid-115628726.html?[/url] or https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/could-cat-long-covid-115628726.html?  November 22, 2022

More than 350,000 cats in the UK have caught Covid-19 throughout the pandemic, a new study has found.

It was known that cats were able to catch coronavirus, but the numbers of infection had not been calculated until now. Scientists are also learning more about the longterm impact on feline health.

The swabs of 2,309 cats that were taken to the vets in the UK between April 2020 and February 2022 for routine check-ups were analysed by virologists and veterinarians from the University of Glasgow.

Samples came from across the UK and were “broadly representative of the domestic cat population”, the scientists said.

“We looked at over 2,000 samples, and we are confident in saying that over 3%  of the UK’s cat population has been exposed to Covid and mounted a neutralising response, and this has been increasing,” study author Grace Tyson, a PhD student at the MRC-University of Glasgow Centre for Virus Research said.

Though there were a large number of cat infections, currently there has only been one documented case of a person catching Covid from a cat. The 10-year-old tabby, who was living in Thailand, caught the virus from its infected owners. She then sneezed in a 32-year-old vet’s face whilst being swabbed.


“Cats that still became infected but did not produce particularly strong/effective antibody responses will not have been captured in this study, so it is likely that the number of UK cats exposed to Covid is greater than the 3.2 per cent we found here,” Tyson told The Telegraph.


The latest information from the study raises concerns about how Covid can affect cats’ general health.

“This could have implications for feline health - the actual pathology of Covid in cats is not as well characterised as in humans, but we know of some quite severe cases of fever and respiratory illness in cats as well as some complications such as cardiac problems,” Tyson said.


“In some cases, these clinical manifestations can be fatal or lead to euthanasia of the cat. We do not yet know the long-term effects of Covid in cats.”

More research is needed to determine how long Covid may present itself in cats. But if your moggie has seemed out of sorts since the height of the pandemic, you may have just found out why.

DJ, at least some "data"...over 3% of UK cats may have catched CoViD....respitory, cardiac problems, lethargy...But "a story" not much details...

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[url]https://www.elwoodvet.net/coronavirus-in-cats[/url] or https://www.elwoodvet.net/coronavirus-in-cats ;(a vet/"animal doctor" website...)

Cat coronavirus

Cats can get infected with feline coronavirus (FCoV). It’s actually extremely common. It’s highly contagious – 80–90% of multicat households are infected. It affects the gut.

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FCoV is not the same as the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 (that virus is called severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 [SARS-CoV-2]). While that virus has (probably) gone from bats to people, there is no evidence that FCoV can be transmitted from cats to people. 

Cats do have the receptors in their respiratory tracts that SARS-CoV-2 binds to. In experimental conditions, cats could be infected the original SARS virus and spread to it other cats. They did not become sick and did not spread it to people. No cases of SARS-CoV-2 have been identified in cats at this time.

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Most infected cats show no symptoms. 

If they do develop signs, then we usually see mild, self-limiting diarrhoea (due to some damage to the small intestinal cells).

While FCoV does not cause serious disease as it is, it can undergo a genetic mutation in some cats and become a very serious (typically fatal) disease called feline infectious peritonitis (FIP). Why this mutation occurs is unknown. The signs of FIP include:

  • intermittent fever

  • extreme lethargy

  • failure to grow in kittens

  • jaundice (DJ-hepatitus)

  • fluid build-up in the abdomen and/or chest

  • difficulty breathing

  • eye problems

  • seizures

Although FCoV is extremely common, FIP is not. The vast majority of cats that get FCoV will recover uneventfully.

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We rarely test for FCoV. It’s not that we can’t, it’s just that it’s so common (in both sick and well cats) that a positive result is relatively meaningless.

DJ...so here a cat-specific coronavirus is discussed...other studies may suggest CoViD-19 can spread in cats and may result in at least some of the (FIP-like) symptoms...

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linked to the above vet FIP story 

[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8954060/[/url] or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8954060/ 2022 Mar; 14


Clinical and Molecular Relationships between COVID-19 and Feline Infectious Peritonitis (FIP)

Abstract

The emergence of severe acute respiratory syndrome 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has led the medical and scientific community to address questions surrounding the pathogenesis and clinical presentation of COVID-19; however, relevant clinical models outside of humans are still lacking. In felines, a ubiquitous coronavirus, described as feline coronavirus (FCoV), can present as feline infectious peritonitis (FIP)—a leading cause of mortality in young cats that is characterized as a severe, systemic inflammation.

 The diverse extrapulmonary signs of FIP and rapidly progressive disease course, coupled with a closely related etiologic agent, present a degree of overlap with COVID-19. 

This paper will explore the molecular and clinical relationships between FIP and COVID-19. 

While key differences between the two syndromes exist, these similarities support further examination of feline coronaviruses as a naturally occurring clinical model for coronavirus disease in humans.

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Both FCoV and SARS-CoV-2 belong to the family Coronaviridae [4,5], albeit in distinct genera (Figure 1). FCoV along with similar animal coronaviruses, such as canine coronavirus (CCoV) and transmissible gastroenteritis virus (TGEV) in pigs, belong to the genus alphacoronavirus. Also grouped within the alphacoronavirus genus are the community-acquired respiratory (CAR) human coronaviruses 229E and NL63 [6] with the latter associated with the common cold, croup, and possibly Kawasaki disease in children [7]. 

In contrast, SARS-CoV-2 along with SARS-CoV (the cause of the 2002–2003 severe acute respiratory syndrome outbreak) and the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) belong to the genus betacoronavirus [8], with SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV in lineage B (sarbecovirus) and MERS-CoV in lineage C (merbecovirus). 

The less closely related betacoronaviruses include the CAR human coronavirus OC43 (associated with the common cold), mouse hepatitis virus (MHV), and bovine coronavirus, which is associated with pneumonia and diarrhea in cattle; these viruses are in lineage A (embecovirus).

DJ-the article may describe similarities between ACUTE FIP and CoViD in cats....with links to all kind of organ problems...

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[url]https://www.wur.nl/en/article/coronavirus-and-covid-19-in-animals.htm[/url] or https://www.wur.nl/en/article/coronavirus-and-covid-19-in-animals.htm This article was last updated on 19 February 2022.

Based on research information to this date, pets and farm animals do not seem to play a role in the epidemiology of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), that causes the disease COVID-19. This article contains information on the coronavirus in relations (domestically) kept animals.

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[url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2024/02/articles/animals/cats/updated-fip-treatment-guidance/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2024/02/articles/animals/cats/updated-fip-treatment-guidance/ 

DJ...statistics could show if cat owners are over- or under-represented in CoViD cases...however it is not a question asked often in CoViD-cases...pets are ignored often. 

So "based on no testing no links were found"....one can not call that science, an assumption based on wishfull thinking...On the other hand-if some animals did see high risks-like minks- it will show itself...

[url]https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/weird-news/scots-cat-believed-first-world-26366027[/url] or https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/weird-news/scots-cat-believed-first-world-26366027 ;

  • 2 MAR 2022

Scottish couple have told how they believe their cat could be the first feline in the world to have suffered long Covid after losing his sense of taste and smell when he contracted the virus.

Catherine Watson, 47, an account manager and her music producer partner Gordon MacKinnon, 50, who live in Glasgow, were horrified when their cat Bruce lost these vital senses after catching the coronavirus and became so gravely ill he needed to be fed through a tube for over a month.


The vaccinated couple, who had mild Covid in late November 2021, feel sure they passed it on to Bruce, a house cat, while they were isolating.

The couple had to spend two and a half hours a day feeding their pet through a tube in his neck until he finally started to nibble food again in early January.

Bruce, an eight-year-old Ragdoll cat, did have Covid, as was proved by a blood test conducted by Margaret Hosie, Professor of Comparative Virology at the University of Glasgow – and though the expert cannot say he had long Covid, she has confirmed she has not seen any other reports of cats losing their sense of taste and smell.

Now Catherine wants to warn other cat owners who catch the virus to avoid their pets.



Remembering how unwell Bruce became, she said: “It was such a scary time. Bruce was so listless, ill and just wouldn’t eat a thing. We now know that’s because he couldn’t smell or taste – a very dangerous thing for cats.”

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Professor Hosie said: “As he was losing weight and condition, his owners contacted me to ask when they might expect Bruce to regain his sense of smell and I was unable to provide any answers as nobody had previously reported this clinical sign in cats with Covid.


“I wouldn’t say that Bruce had long Covid, but I haven’t seen any reports of cats losing their sense of taste and smell.

“Fortunately Bruce received excellent intensive care from his local vet and subsequently made a good recovery.”


DJ "weird news" ...the basic story is the cat lost smell and stopped eating...NOT "Long CoViD" but a serious complication in cats...

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[url]https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/14/5/761[/url] or https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/14/5/761 ;

Seroprevalence of Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies in Cats during Five Waves of COVID-19 Epidemic in Thailand and Correlation with Human Outbreaks

Submission received: 9 January 2024 / Revised: 14 February 2024 / Accepted: 27 February 2024 / Published: 29 February 2024

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This study investigated the transmission of COVID-19 from humans to animals, specifically highlighting a case where a veterinarian contracted the virus from an infected cat. The objectives included examining the presence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Thai cats during various episodes of the outbreak, evaluating the effectiveness of a modified human commercial test kit for screening SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in cats, and investigating the correlation between cat infections and human epidemic episodes. Utilizing 1107 cat serum samples, the results demonstrated a seropositive rate of 22.67%, aligning with trends observed in humans. The cPass™ neutralization test revealed a validated 3.99% seropositivity rate. While distinct patterns were observed among epidemic waves, overall variation was revealed across provinces. Particularly, Samut Sakhon demonstrated a robust positive correlation between the proportion of positive cat sera and human prevalence. This study underscores the importance of continuous surveillance to comprehend the dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in human and feline populations.

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Human-to-animal SARS-CoV-2 transmission was observed, including a veterinarian contracting COVID-19 through close contact with an infected cat, suggesting an atypical zoonotic transmission. This study investigated the prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in cats during human outbreaks and elucidated the correlation between cat infections and human epidemics. A total of 1107 cat serum samples were collected and screened for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies using a modified indirect ELISA human SARS-CoV-2 antibody detection kit. The samples were confirmed using a cPass™ neutralization test. 


The SARS-CoV-2 seropositivity rate was 22.67% (199/878), mirroring the trend observed in concomitant human case numbers. The waves of the epidemic and the provinces did not significantly impact ELISA-positive cats. Notably, Chon Buri exhibited a strong positive correlation (r = 0.99, p = 0.009) between positive cat sera and reported human case numbers. Additionally, the cPass™ neutralization test revealed a 3.99% (35/878) seropositivity rate. There were significant differences in numbers and proportions of positive cat sera between epidemic waves. In Samut Sakhon, a positive correlation (r = 1, p = 0.042) was noted between the proportion of positive cat sera and human prevalence. The findings emphasize the need for ongoing surveillance to comprehend SARS-CoV-2 dynamics in both human and feline populations.

DJ, ELISE testing can be used to find CoViD antibodies in cats. During different waves/different Thai regions cat infections also did differ...May suggest some variants are more able to infect cats than others...

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DJ-My (non expert, limited) view;

-Cat like animals may run a relative high risk for CoViD

-UK numbers may "hint" possibly 5% of UK cats could have had a CoViD infection (maybe even more than once)

-If 10% of those "CoViD-cats" develop Long CoViD it could mean 0,5% (between 0,2-0,8%) of cats have L.C.

-Indications are most-if not all-cats catch CoViD from "their" humans (so far cat-to-cat spread of CoViD likely very limited...maybe a mother cat may give an infection to the kittens...sexual transmission of CoViD)

-It will be VERY, VERY rare to see human-cat-human spread

-Lack of testing means "we do not know".....

DJ-It would be welcome to see more testing in pets for (old) CoViD infections and compare findings with (possible) findings in pet owners. 

The outcome very likely will see very low human-pet-human spread. 

However does this trajectory bring mutations ? New variants ? Recombinations that may bring/increase other risks ? 

Not only the "numbers/statistics" matter also the (possible) risks matter !

If 1-in a-million human-pet-human cases could see a high risk new variant it may worsen the pandemic !

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[url]https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/heart-inflammation-in-cats-and-dogs-sars-cov-2-possible-culprit#Acute-myocarditis[/url] or https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/heart-inflammation-in-cats-and-dogs-sars-cov-2-possible-culprit#Acute-myocarditis ;

  • Researchers conducted a study to investigate whether there is a link between a spike in cardiac inflammation among cats and dogs and SARS-CoV-2.
  • They found that the majority of pets studied had contracted SARS-CoV-2 shortly after it was either confirmed or suspected that their owners had the virus.
  • The researchers conclude that pets can contract the B.1.1.7, or Alpha, variant of the virus. However, scientists will need to carry out more research to confirm how exactly it affects pets.

Several case reportsTrusted Source have emerged worldwide about pets, especially cats and dogs, contracting SARS-CoV-2 from their owners.

Symptoms were mostly mild and included mild digestive and respiratory issues, such as cough, runny nose, and sneezing.

Despite large surges of SARS-CoV-2 cases in the United Kingdom since November 2020, thus far, there have been no reportsTrusted Source of animals contracting the virus.

Tracking the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 to animals is vital for the safety of animals and for preventing the formation of viral reservoirs that could perpetuate the pandemic.

Recently, researchers from the U.K. and France recorded several cases of cats and dogs that seemed to have contracted SARS-CoV-2 from their owners, and developed symptoms of myocarditis, which is inflammation of the heart muscle.

“Our study reports the first cases of cats and dogs affected by the COVID-19 Alpha variant and highlights, more than ever, the risk that companion animals can [contract] SARS-CoV-2,” says Dr. Luca Ferasin, D.V.M., Ph.D., lead author of the study and head of Cardiology at The Ralph Veterinary Referral Centre (TRVRC) in the U.K.

“We also reported the atypical clinical manifestations characterized by severe heart abnormalities, which is a well-recognized complication in people affected by COVID-19 but has never [been] described in pets before. However, COVID-19 […] in pets remains a relatively rare condition and, based on our observations, it seems that the transmission occurs from humans to pets, rather than vice versa,” he adds.

The study appears in the journal VetRecordTrusted Source.

Between December 2020 and February 2021, vets at TRVRC noticed an increase in cats and dogs with signs of acute myocarditis being admitted to their clinic.

Myocarditis accounted for 12.8% of their cardiology cases, compared with around 1.5% in the previous year.

Altogether, they diagnosed 26 cats and dogs with the condition between December 2020 and March 2021.

This, they observed, coincided with the peak of SARS-CoV-2 cases in the U.K., making them suspect a possible link. To investigate, they asked the owners of these pets whether they had symptoms of COVID-19 in the preceding weeks or whether they had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at any stage.

The researchers found that the majority of owners of these pets had contracted SARS-CoV-2 3–6 weeks prior to their pets’ illness. The vets decided to test the cats and dogs for the presence of the virus using molecular testing (PCR) and antibodies in their blood.

To do so, they collected blood, oro-nasopharyngeal, and rectal swabs from six cats and one dog with a diagnosis of suspected myocarditis following direct contact with people in their household with confirmed or suspected SARS-CoV-2. They also collected blood samples from two cats and two dogs during their recovery phase.

They sent the samples to the MIVEGEC laboratory at the University of Montpellier in France to undergo molecular testing (PCR) and testing for antibodies.

Following diagnosis, the vets noted that none of the 11 study animals with myocarditis developed influenza-like symptoms and that they all clinically improved within a few days of intensive care treatment. Further diagnostic tests did not reveal any alternative viral, bacterial, or other cause of their myocarditis.

Altogether, two cats and one dog tested positive on PCR tests, and two cats and one dog had developed antibodies against COVID-19.

The vets also noted that all of these pets tested positive for the Alpha variant of the virus, which was responsible for the sudden surge of SARS-CoV-2 cases in the U.K. between December 2020 and March 2021.

The findings match those from a recent case report from France that builds the evidence for an association between transmission of the Alpha variant to pets and the development of myocarditis.

DJ  November 11, 2021 so in the early phase of the pandemic. These kind of statistical studies however may give further indications;

-Are cats more at risk then dogs ?

-Long CoViD like symptoms in humans and cats have a lot of similarity ?

-What are the immunity effects of CoViD in cats ? 

-Could there be a CoViD variant with a high(er) risk of spreading from cat-to-cat/cat-pet/cat-human ? 

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