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Topic: Mystery illness children NYC covid related Posted: May 05 2020 at 6:23am |
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Posted: May 05 2020 at 9:48am |
WOW, If this gets to really spreading then parents will not send kids to school even if they are open. They had better figure this one out fast.
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Posted: May 06 2020 at 7:39am |
[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mysterious-coronavirus-linked-syndrome-spreads-london-new-york[/url] DJ-There are reports from UK, NL unclear how widespread it is-problem may be lack of testing for young children "since they do not get ill". Also is it a sort of co-infection ? Maybe not related to Covid19 at all ? Do "older" (+20y/o) also start showing these kind of symptoms ? (Could be virus attacking the body in a different way ?)
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Posted: May 07 2020 at 4:28am |
More studies on children with Covid 19 (DJ-tested much less so cases underreported) [url]https://www.businessinsider.nl/cdc-children-coronavirus-infants-boys-may-face-higher-risk-2020-4/[/url] and [url]https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf[/url] (the pdf-Chinese study notices no gender differences-the US/CDC study does) [url]https://www.businessinsider.nl/new-study-finds-more-children-infected-coronavirus-covid19-2020-4?international=true&r=US[/url]; According to the new study, published April 16 in the Journal of Public Health Management and Practice, for every one child hospitalized with a severe case COVID-19, 2,318 others could be infected with the virus. There were 74 pediatric cases of coronavirus reported in US hospitals between March 18 and April 6. But the researchers from the University of South Florida and the Women’s Institute for Independent Social Enquiry calculated that the actual number of infected children across the country at that time was probably closer to 176,190. Those numbers could skyrocket by the end of 2020. If a quarter of the population is infected, that would translate to over 3 million children with COVID-19, according to the research projections. These numbers were calculated based on peer-reviewed case data from China. Researchers calculated the projections based on the number of severe cases, the number of lab-confirmed cases, and the estimated reporting rate to estimate how many cases may have gone unreported. The projections were conservative, based on data that 70% of cases were reported, and 2.9% percent of those confirmed cases were severe. If coronavirus continues to spread, severe cases could overwhelm pediatric hospitals, researchers warnAccording to the projections in the study, 11% of children with COVID-19 will have severe cases requiring hospitalization and intensive care. If the rate of infection keeps growing across the US as predicted, they warn, it could overwhelm the available facilities. If 25% of the population were to be infected, that would be more than 44,000 children would need hospitalization, and 5,400 children would need intensive care, more than the number of bed currently available. There are only 5,100 beds in pediatric intensive care units in the US, according to the study, 94% of which are in major cities. And based on previous case studies, children with severe COVID-19 spend an average of two weeks in the hospital. This means that if there were to be a high rate of infection among children, medical resources would quickly be overwhelmed by demand, the study warns. “Hospitals should be prepared and have the proper equipment and staffing levels to deal with a potential influx of younger patients,” author Jason Salemi, associate professor of epidemiology in the USF College of Public Health, said in a press release. These projected consequences underscore the importance of taking consistence steps to prevent the spread of the virus nationwide – chiefly, hand-washing and social distancing continue to be crucial, he added.
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Posted: May 07 2020 at 6:24am |
This is very bad news. Very little doubt that a mutation has taken place that recently emerged in Europe.
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Posted: May 07 2020 at 9:03am |
I think we know just very little of this virus (in many forms) yet-could be mutations, could be attaching to other "receptor binding domains" creating different kind of infections. It gives me a "bad feeling" in combination with schools re-opening worldwide. In many countries lockdowns are hard to maintain (did read about Pakistan) because no work=no income=no food. Even when the virus spread further.. In third world countries-with a much younger population, often more mix with animals-the virus can find new hosts, new ways of infection-and of course, one way or the other-come back to the EU/US etc. With limited data we do not know what this virus is doing (with children) in Brazil, Iran, Russia, Africa...in many ways we are blind in a storm.
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Posted: May 07 2020 at 1:08pm |
If this hits kids it stops the country from reopening because Schools are the Baby Sitters for parents who both work! This could get really ugly!
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Posted: May 09 2020 at 2:15am |
FluMom, maybe schools etc can organize things that the same group of children has the same teacher all of the time-to minimize spread (the more different pupils, teachers involved-the higher the risks). MedCram [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja-jhcXMGj0[/url] from minute 10 describing how (in my words) over reaction of the immune system not only deals with the invading Corona-virus but also (in its over reaction-it looks like also the EVMS PDF sees that as the main risk in adult cases) but also damages the organs, vessels etc. https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf We need to have a form of economy to have a form of healthcare-the balancing-act.
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Posted: May 09 2020 at 3:00am |
"If?" There's no if. So far about 100 children are having Kawasaki-type illnesses after having mild Covid symptoms. Certainly not a very high percentage, but there's risk. There's so much we don't know about this virus!
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Posted: May 09 2020 at 2:59pm |
WitchMisspelled wrote:
"If?" There's no if. So far about 100 children are having Kawasaki-type illnesses after having mild Covid symptoms. Certainly not a very high percentage, but there's risk. There's so much we don't know about this virus! |
Yep,alot to learn yet...... Worried for the World......🙁
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Posted: May 09 2020 at 3:25pm |
Since most likely Covid was a lab leak, it doesn't count for the next pandemic. I believe we have an all new pandemic emerging here. I don't believe this suspected covid-19 syndrome is related to covid, and we most likely have a novel *something* emerging.
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Posted: May 09 2020 at 6:58pm |
While I personally think this virus was not lab-derived, I do agree with Albert that this particular incarnation of the virus in children is a new presentation — perhaps a mutated strain which reacts differently in children because their immune systems function differently from adults? I am not a doctor (and don’t play one on TV! LOL), so I could be completely and totally wrong. It’s just something I’ve thought about. I know for certain that I never heard about this particular pediatric syndrome being reported in China or Europe earlier in the pandemic. These poor kiddos. :(
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 6:36am |
Just putting in my two cents here....
A lab leak is different than being lab created. Although I do believe it was a lab leak, I believe it was being studied rather than being created. This virus would be much faster acting and deadly if it were lab created.
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 8:17am |
At the Wuhan Institute of Virology, they were specifically experimenting with "Gain of Function" abilities with the SARS virus. A bit of a coincidence that SARS (SARS-CoV-2) emerged in Wuhan with Gain of Function ability. China is a big place, and for it to specifically emerge in Wuhan is also another heck of a coincidence. The way this new PMI Syndrome is suddenly (not sooner) sporadically popping up in kids is also a little suspect. One would think this would have taken place much sooner, which to me means some sort of mutation has taken place. Or it's a new virus of some sort. We still have not confirmed 100% that it's even related to Coivd. A lot of question still... Either way you slice it, it appears that it will continue to spread, or manifest. This one is very concerning.
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 10:53am |
New Haven Coronavirus Association between a novel human coronavirus and Kawasaki disease. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15655771 Newly Discovered Virus Linked To Childhood Lung Disorders And Kawasaki Disease https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050124004816.htm
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 1:46pm |
Very concerning. Yet still in the facebook "mom's group" I am part of, the majority of moms are "sick of staying in" and are setting up play dates with other kids or asking if other moms are letting their children hang out and play....which quite a few have been doing all along.
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 2:44pm |
Well Tabitha I have lost a child and if more children get this and start dying I can tell you, all the women will keep their kids home and NOT send them to school. I can tell you the worst thing that can happen is your child dying! Even when my husband was dying of cancer he use to look at me and say "It is not our second son dying, I rather die than him to die, can't do that again." So if a lot of kids get this it is a Game Changer!
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 3:06pm |
Flumom,but your for opening up, putting at risk ,other people's children,even if they are Adults,they are still "Your Kids" By opening up to early, as America , you run the risk of losing alot, of Adult,bread winners.... Everyone is someone's child,its all very well when it's all happening "over there" Not so easy if it's one of your Loved ones..... Take care America, ,I truly hope you got this right
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 3:13pm |
Carbon did you read what Tabitha said...parents are setting up play dates and letting kids go out to play with each other. You can't stop people for more than a month and keep them in longer than that. They are all going crazy. I wonder how much domestic violence people are suffering? It is not just the government that wants to open PEOPLE want to get back to normal and YES more will die. It will be up to parents and people to decide what amount of exposure they are willing to do! I is not if I or the U.S. got this right it is if People of the U.S. got this right on an individual basis...we all have to make decisions for our lives NOT THE GOVERNMENT!
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Posted: May 10 2020 at 3:31pm |
Yes i did read it, while I'm watching BBC world news, reporting spikes in South Korea,and Germany,after they lifting lockdowns, As far as in concerned,we don't know enough about this Wuflu, I just hope I'm very wrong,but my gut tells me, you got to be careful. My daughter is still reluctant to send Granddaughter to school, and this state seems to be free of virus, only one case in 7 days, and they in hotel quarantine for 14 days under police guard,after returning from overseas,as is everyone returning here from overseas,that has been the case here for 4/6 weeks..... Just want you all to be safe, i don't like your leader, but Love you Yanks, take care all 😜
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