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    Posted: August 19 2006 at 5:44am

What the heck is this??

 

 

Epidemic Hazard - Asia

Event summary
GLIDE Number EH-20060819-7227-CHN    
Event type Epidemic Hazard Date / time 19/08/2006 - 06:51:29 (Military Time, UTC)
Country China Area Nuwakot district
County / State Tibet City Netini
Cause of event Unknow Log date 19/08/2006 - 06:51:29 (Military Time, UTC)
Damage level Large Time left - 
Latitude: N 27° 55.101 Longitude: E 85° 15.475
Number of deaths: 14 persons Number of injured persons: Not or Not data
Evacuated: - Infected -
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Unprecedented epidemic of an unidentified disease has killed at least 14 people, including seven children, in central Nepal in the past two weeks. The disease, which was first detected in dogs and chicken in the last week of June, had started spreading to humans in Netini, a far eastern village of Nuwakot district, some 50 km northwest of Kathmandu. Major symptoms of the disease are high fever together with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death.

Potential Risk: Katmandu International Airport
 
 
 
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Fasten your seatbelts everyone, we could be in for a rough ride!
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Cruiser....when I panic will you please send me one of those huggy emoticons?
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This all I can find right now
 
 
 
Unidentified disease kills 14

 
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NUWAKOT, Aug 18 - Unprecedented epidemic of an unidentified disease has killed at least 14 people, including seven children, in Netini VDC, a far eastern village of the district, in the past two weeks.

The disease, which was first detected in dogs and chicken in the last week of June, had started spreading to humans.

Major symptoms of the disease are high fever together with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death.
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SF,
 
I think you'll be needing these about now!  HugHug
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We are royally screwed if this has been developing since June - rally the troops we need to get to the bottom of this one!!  SF I am going to borrow one of your huggies!
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They are worried about the Airport???  This thing is contagious as in airborne?  We need more information!
 
 
 
Potential Risk: Katmandu International Airport
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Ok....we have been preparing for this. A rational and calm approach, right? Definately time for a team effort on information. If this has been going on since June and it hasn't exploded there must be missing pieces to this puzzle?
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It says that the outbreak was detected in chickens and dogs at the end of  June, there is nothing to say when the first human contracted it. , it could have been more recent.
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Redundant info but the source of the article:
http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/aug/aug19/news05.php

14 killed from unidentified disease

Epidemic of an unidentified disease has killed at least 14 people, including seven children, in Netini village development committee (VDC), a far eastern village of Nuwakot district, in the past two weeks.

The disease, which was first detected in dogs and chickens in the last week of June, had started spreading to humans, reports The Kathmandu Post daily.

Major symptoms of the disease are high fever together with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death. nepalnews.com pb Aug 19 06
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This still isn't exploding in transmission. I have searched the "breaking news" and the personal blogs and do not see panic there. That makes me feel somewhat more comfortable, for now.
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Also, disease in dogs and chickens may be unrelated to disease in people. Even if the symptoms are similar you can have different causes.

Not time to panic yet.
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Although it's most likely nothing, let's keep it up as a sticky topic for a day or so we can watch it.   It's easy to lose track of things in this fast moving news sect.    Smile

 
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They should have been able to rule out bird flu by now. I wish they would just say that. Do these people live close together. 14 people in two weeks, in the same town is pretty scary.
Sometimes, I wish I wouldn't turn on my computer in the morning, too much stress.
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2006.08.19 06:51:29 - Epidemic Hazard - China

GLIDE CODE: EP-20060819-7227-CHN
Date & Time: 2006.08.19 - 06:51:29
Area: China Tibet, Nuwakot district, Netini ( MAP)

Description:

Unprecedented epidemic of an unidentified disease has killed at least 14 people, including seven children, in central Nepal in the past two weeks. The disease, which was first detected in dogs and chicken in the last week of June, had started spreading to humans in Netini, a far eastern village of Nuwakot district, some 50 km northwest of Kathmandu. Major symptoms of the disease are high fever together with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death.

Potential Risk: Katmandu International Airport

Number of Deads: 14 persons
Damage level: Large


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This is too lethal for dengue.  I'm not sure of the size of central Nepal.  14 deaths in this time frame and with these symptoms is how I would expect h5n1 to move, although again, it will most likely disappear soon.  
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Thousand Chickens Die in Nuwakot, Nepal
http://www.newslinenepal.com/index2....tion=&sno=1521

Thousand Chickens Die in Nuwakot, Nepal
2006-02-26 19:44:09

NLN Correspondent, NUWAKOT:

Amidst the growing threat regarding the outbreak of Bird Flu, thousand of chickens have died in Nuwakot, a district, which has close geographical proximity with Kathmandu Valley.

This mass death of the poultry came out of blue.

The chickens belonging to Nava Raj Adhikari started to die since Friday night. Adhikari owns the poultry firm in Bidur Municipality of the district.

Till Saturday, the unknown disease killed the chickens numbering around thousand, informed seemingly disappointed Adhikari, adding, "Chickens started to die soon after the pus began to flow from their mouth,"
Even the veterinary doctor was also not able to diagnose the actual reason for the mass elimination.

With an aim to conduct preliminary examination, the doctor sent the samples of dead chickens to the Kathmandu, said the veterinary official based in the district.

The detailed result of the medical test is yet to come.

The mass death of the poultry is first incident of its kind in the district, according to locals.
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I wonder how far or close rather is the Hunan provence to Netini?
 
 
"About 1,800 ducks have died from bird flu at a farm in central China and more than 210,000 have been culled. A total of 1,805 ducks have died at the farm in Changsha, capital of Hunan province, since the first poultry death was reported on Aug. 4, Xinhuanet (www.xinhuanet.com) quoted the agriculture ministry as saying. About 217,000 ducks at the farm have been culled. A national laboratory confirmed on Monday the ducks had died from the H5N1 bird flu virus, it said."
 
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?id=7180&cat=dis&lang=eng
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Angie, Good FindClap.  I've been looking all over the net for info with no luck.  Thanks.
 
I just looked at the article again.  Is the date of publish february 26, 2006?  or is this a current article? 
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Originally posted by Sand Sand wrote:

Angie, Good FindClap.  I've been looking all over the net for info with no luck.  Thanks.
 
I just looked at the article again.  Is the date of publish february 26, 2006?  or is this a current article? 
 
Hi Sand,
 
This came up in a google search that took me to another bird flu forum.  I tried the link and it is dead.  I assume it was from February which I know is outdated but it shows history.
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wiki picked up this article too, about the 14 people dying. They made reference to 1918, people also bleeding from nose, I remember that in Barry's book..
I think we really need to watch this.
    
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If this is an h5n1 hot spot, they should be on top of this.  Nuwakut should be quarantined.   

     

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Probably not bird flu as you would think that would be known by now.  Whether or not this is avian flu, it is a highly lethal disease. 
 
Yes, Albert, I agree quarantine now.
 
Why would the airport be a potential risk unless it was contagious?
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Also, I wonder if there are others sick with flu like symptoms that are recovering?
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Found the below bits and pieces.
 
Bagmati Zone is a zone of Nepal which is named after the river Bagmati. It is in Central Development Region of Nepal. The zone contains the Kathmandu Valley with its conurbation of 1,5 million inhabitants.

Nuwakot District

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nuwakot district, a part of Bagmati zone, is one of the seventy-five districts of Nepal, a landlocked country of South Asia. The district, with Bidur as its district headquarters, covers an area of 1,121 sq km and has a population (2001) of 288,478.

 

The district contains places of historical significance such as Nuwakot Palace located in the village of Nuwakot and Devighat located at the confluence of the Tadi and Trishuli Rivers.

 

Nepal, a landlocked country of South Asia is divided into 14 administrative zones  comprised currently (2005) of 75 districts. The 14 administrative zones are grouped into five development zones or divisions. Each district is headed by a chief district officer (or CDO) responsible for maintaining law and order and coordinating the work of field agencies of the various government ministries.

The Royal Palace is in Kathmandu, Bagmati Zone three miles from Patan Durbar.
 
The Tribhuvan Internation Airport (TIA) is close to the Kathmandu, Nepal Airport (KTM-Tribhuvan International) this is a great commerce concern with a bird flu event.Cry 
 
 
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http://english.people.com.cn/200608/19/eng20060819_294852.html

English version - Chinese news

Unidentified disease kills 14 in central Nepal
UPDATED: 13:59, August 19, 2006   

Unprecedented epidemic of an unidentified disease has killed at least 14 people, including seven children, in central Nepal in the past two weeks, The Kathmandu Post reported on Saturday.

According to the newspaper, the disease, which was first detected in dogs and chicken in the last week of June, had started spreading to humans in Netini, a far eastern village of Nuwakot district, some 50 km northwest of Kathmandu.

Major symptoms of the disease are high fever together with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death.

Source: Xinhua



This is being picked up on the media. Just a note - this, at least for me was a tough find on the crawlers. 


http://news3.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-08/19/content_4981100.htm

Zero chance that this is not for real.  And  this  update  was today.

This is horrific. I did some backround checks and I still need to confirm, but this is a high sex trafficing area as well as AIDS hotspot and was a SARS hotspot as well. I need to double check that data.

Real bad part is it may have nothing to do with Bird Flu at all or be a  mutation of something else. Yet have noted the correlation of bird deaths "out of nowhere."

So far this is not even on the blogs I have checked. Yet perhaps in a few hours it will be.

Near an airport. This is one to watch.
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Just found this on Newsnow.com.  Interesting...
 
 
14 People Die of Illness Located in Bird Flu Stricken Region

Download this press release as an Adobe PDF document.

The symptoms of the disease are high fever along with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death, which is similar to that of the bird flu virus.

(PRWEB) August 19, 2006 -- There is a lot of nervous talk circulating on an online discussion forum, Avian Flu Talk, concerning a mystery disease that has killed 14 people in the last two weeks located in the Nuwakot District of South Asia. This disease was first detected in dogs and chickens in the last week of June and had started spreading to humans in Netini. The symptoms of the disease are high fever along with bleeding from nose and mouth at the time of death, which is similar to that of the bird flu virus.

The bird flu virus was previously suspected in Nuwakot District on February 24, 2006 in which thousands of chickens began to die. With the developments regarding a lethal disease now spreading in that area, alarm bells are sure to ring among the local residents.

For up to the minute developments on this quickly unfolding story, there is an online discussion forum in which people from all around the world are discussing this latest event. For all of those who are interested in following this story and to see what others are saying, we would strongly encourage you to visit this website located at www.Avianflutalk.com.

Contact:
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Jim Henry
2465 Orangethorpe Ave.
Fullerton, CA 92831

Phone number 714.965.5945

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Trackback URL : http://prweb.com/pingpr.php/RmFsdS1QaWdnLVBpZ2ctVGhpci1JbnNlLVplcm8=

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Great find Sand, great effort all,
 
Looks like we hit the big time.  What a way to spend a saturday.  It is very important to note the time lag between our initial post and subsequent news wires which affords us with a precious advantage.   2 things about the airport, obviously it is the spring board that could send this virus or whatever throughout the world in days and secondly, most airports serve as primary quarantine facilites just for reasons like this story.  Lets hope their's is well staffed.
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Is this guy legit? I think it's the same person that we had issues with a while ago. Like we discussed on another thread, we need to check everything out.
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Speaking of airports - this is scary.  Article is dated August 3, 2006
 

Tourist arrivals by air up by over seven percent: NTB

With the country moving in the direction of peace and stability, the arrival of tourists via air to Nepal increased by 7.2% in July as compared to the same month last year, the Nepal Tourism Board (NTB) said, quoting the Ministry of Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation.

According to the data of the Ministry of Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation, a total of 20,904 visitors entered Nepal during the month, as compared to 18,840 of the same period last year.

Arrival of India tourists rose by 13.1% in the month of July as compared to last year. A total of 10,019 visitors arrived in the month of July as compared to 8,859 of the same month last year.

4,713 European tourists visited Nepal in July as compared to 4,608 of the last year, posting an increase of 2.3%.

Overall arrival of tourists from third countries also increased by 2% in this July. In particular, tourists from Austria and Sweden increased significantly by 135.5% and 156.3% respectively.

Similarly, 47.4% more Canadian tourists arrived in Nepal last month as compared to July last year.

The arrival of tourists from Taiwan, Bangladesh and Thailand, minor tourist markets, declined by 40.1%, 33.0% and 31.1% respectively.

Likewise, number of tourists from Denmark, United Kingdom and New Zealand decreased by 11%, 11.3% and 4.7 percent respectively.

Indian visitors continued to be the single largest contributor capturing 47.9% of the total arrival of tourists.

The total arrival of tourists from January to July rose by 8.6% as compared to same period of last year. A total of 142,499 tourists arrived via air from January to July this year up from 131,210 of the last year.

A press release issued by the Nepal Tourism Board said, "The July trend indicates the returning consumer confidence particularly from Nepal's primary markets. The growing peace and stability in the destination has been instrumental for this growth."

"The promotional campaigns launched by Nepal Tourism Board in India based on the new tourism brand, is expected to be more effective in this atmosphere," the statement further adds. nepalnews.com pb Aug 03 06

Related News
- Tourist arrival up by 13.8 percent

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/aug/aug03/news11.php
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I would like someone to come right out and say it....Do you think we are in the early stages of a pandemic?????
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Alll we can do is  hope for the best and plan for the worst.
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Ruth,

Good catch! Searching Google for the title only 2 hits come back, both from Press Release services. How is it the mainstream hasn't got this.
Remember AFF'ers confirm a story first. Don't swallow that big fat nightcrawler.
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Ruth, I agree.  That is why is said "interesting..."  I think it is the same guy.
 
However, the story which I first found on hiszroe I believe to be dependable and is also being carried by asia news outlets.  It is not being touted as an avian flu story.  Simply an outbreak of an unknown disease.
 
I have been thinking about this for a while today- well all day, infact - and remembered the chinese killing all of those dogs for a rabid rabies strain.  Doesn't rabies cause foaming at the mouth, etc.?
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The story may be legit, the guy Jim Henry may not be. He posted a very scary story a few months back that was not true. I think it's the same guy.
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MaryR: Don't panic yet. We were month by month, then day by day. I don't think we are hour by hour yet. Could there be people that have spread this already and have not actually started to show symptoms? Now that is the question of the hour. 
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Originally posted by MaryR MaryR wrote:


I would like someone to come right out and say it....Do you think we are in the early stages of a pandemic?????
 
Mary,
 
Time for increased vigilence and planning maybe, but probably not around the corner.  Just like when a Hurricane is 3 days away, I make sure everything is in place.  Concern and diligence, careful attention to details.  NOT time to SIP or pull the kids out of school.   My opinion only.
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As far as Mr Jim Henry, I would almost say he is using us for his "breaking Story" leads.  Back in May his opening line referenced AFF as well.  He may just be a lurker or worse yet a poser or even worse yet a member of the media.
 
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Jim Henry is faster than a speeding media.   
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i don't see what harm he is doing if he is getting the word out.


...and no i am not "Jim" and I don't know who he is.
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I don't think that you have to worry about people thinking that you're JH.
 
 
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LOL well that's good. I will sweep that worry off my plate....
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This one caught my eye and I started looking on standard engines and when I couldn't find much, switched to some of the more obscure crawlers. Honestly, the very first thought that crossed my mind, was oh no, a
"people have Avian in Texas" tabloid deal. But I could not find this on any blogs. Second thing that crossed my mind was "the sick woman in the London plane" story.

So understand, we are all being courteous but I have tried to be careful with this one. I trust Sands for one totally. I don't know him, but he posted the announcement about Michigan and I posted to him - Sands - you need to thread this - because this is the real deal. And it was.

Look over the links I have posted and also how this is moving into the network. If this is a fake, he certainly picked the right spot for it. As I mentioned, I did some other type checking and got some "sex trafficking" data, AIDS case data, and old SARS data. Nasty place.

At one point I was thinking could this be AIDS, but then simply the wrong numbers and symptoms. So this came from a local paper (right?) and now I am seeing it in Chinese in Chinese papers as well as English.

Another flash in the pan? This one is just too nasty to be true. The second we can wipe this... I'll be fine with that.


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Jim Henry is faster than a speeding media.   snip 
I don't think that you have to worry about people thinking that you're JH.
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Albert, do you know Jim Henry?
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Bolgaun Village
Nuwakot District, Nepal
  The subsistence farmers of Bolgaun must carve out terraces in the mountainside in order to grow crops.
 
 
 
Nepal
Maoists working towards confining militia to camps, says Home Minister Sitaula

On August 18, Home Minister Krishna Prasad Sitaula said the Maoists were working out a model for keeping their combatants inside the barracks or a specified area. He told the Dialogue Process Monitoring Parliamentary Special Committee that the insurgents would soon provide the model to the Government. According to him, the Interim Constitution Drafting Committee will submit the interim constitution’s draft to the Government by August 26.  

Meanwhile, the Maoists detained, on August 18, the Chief District Officer (CDO) of Bara district, a dozen journalists and half a dozen security officials for three hours and then released them. The Maoists took them under their control from Tawoli area of Laxmipur village, as the CDO and others had gone there to inspect a dam being constructed over the local Jamun River.  

In another incident, Kantipur reports that a minor who was kidnapped by the Maoists three weeks ago from Prithvi Narayan Municipality in Gorkha district escaped from Maoist detention and arrived home on August 18. Mamta Dawadi, a 12-year-old girl, was kidnapped by the insurgents on July 27 from her house in the municipality. She was reportedly kidnapped to be recruited in the Maoist army.
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